To chain, or, not to chain.....

[Suki]

Chain Reaction (https://community.hsus.org/ct/x1avId51yRtN/)

[chinasmom]

I personaly don't like it. The dogs are really hyper when they are unchained because they have been confined and therefore harder to get to behave and follow commands. I do put mine on a run a few hours a day though.

[tommy3]

This again? The best way to keep these dogs contained is to put them on a good chain setup. This is more BS, that the humane society put out. I'm sure there is some truth to it, if the dog is never shown any attention and does nothing but sit on the chain for their entire life. But, I have never seen a bulldog becoming aggressive from sitting on a chain. NEVER, and I doubt anyone here has seen it happen either. The majority of the people here chain their dogs and have never had a problem. This is because the dogs are shown attention and receive proper exercise. It is outright stupid to claim that any dog on a chain will become neurotic, aggressive, and so on. The same people that push this BS is the same people who are fighting to put away our bulldogs. They have no basis in fact and they push their personal opinion as fact. Please, think twice and don't take these idiots words.

[Suki]

This again? The best way to keep these dogs contained is to put them on a good chain setup. This is more BS, that the humane society put out. I'm sure there is some truth to it, if the dog is never shown any attention and does nothing but sit on the chain for their entire life. But, I have never seen a bulldog becoming aggressive from sitting on a chain. NEVER, and I doubt anyone here has seen it happen either. The majority of the people here chain their dogs and have never had a problem. This is because the dogs are shown attention and receive proper exercise. It is outright stupid to claim that any dog on a chain will become neurotic, aggressive, and so on. The same people that push this BS is the same people who are fighting to put away our bulldogs. They have no basis in fact and they push their personal opinion as fact. Please, think twice and don't take these idiots words.
sorry, wasn't meant to offend anyone. Was just another pov, for people to read. Didn't say I agree or disagree, just read it, and thought folks might find it interesting. That's all.
Sorry...

[Rocky H. Balboa]

No need for apologies when you are putting another point of view. This site would not be what it is if we all said and thought the same thing over and over again. I have seen less pertinent threads (non dog related) started without anyone complaining.

Thanks for posting. Some chain and some do not. This is a venue for both sides to state their opinions on the subject. Enough said.
sorry, wasn't meant to offend anyone. Was just another pov, for people to read. Didn't say I agree or disagree, just read it, and thought folks might find it interesting. That's all.
Sorry...

[Luigi]

Funny chain story: I could not contain my first pitty when I got him, so I actually did resort to chaining him for one day. I didn't buy a heavy gage chain, but what I did buy was a big, fat bolty-type thing and screwed it into the side of my house. When I came home, the dog was caught on my back porch, chain, bolty-thing, AND the corner of my house, lol. Wish I had taken pictures.

Have never chained again and have never had a problem since. :)

Moral of the story, I guess, is that every dog is different.

[rocksteady]

you didnt have a proper chain set up .....

[Luigi]

you didnt have a proper chain set up .....
oh thanks, I didn't know that. :)

[SEAL]

chaining responsibly is not bad or cruel its probably better than crating a dog for 8 hrs. but leaving a dog on the end of a chain or in a crate with no socialization is wrong and there in lies the problem. all things are good in MODERATION. im sure my dog would be a freak show if i never let him out his kennel but to potty even when i was home. he wouldnt be any better if he sat on a chain day and night without coming in or getting some us time in a yard. its all about responsiblity and knowing how to care for your animals but there is nothing inherently wrong with a tie out.

[WWII]

You would think that an organization that is against choke collars, prong collars, and chaining, would also be against the use of electric fences. Guess not. :rolleyes:

[Luigi]

chaining responsibly is not bad or cruel its probably better than crating a dog for 8 hrs. but leaving a dog on the end of a chain or in a crate with no socialization is wrong and there in lies the problem. all things are good in MODERATION. im sure my dog would be a freak show if i never let him out his kennel but to potty even when i was home. he wouldnt be any better if he sat on a chain day and night without coming in or getting some us time in a yard. its all about responsiblity and knowing how to care for your animals but there is nothing inherently wrong with a tie out.
This is a good post, Seal.

I have used Invisible Fencing, which I do not necessarily recommend for pitbulls at all, but it worked for my first pit, and I currently have fenced in areas that I have never had an issue with.

As long as you're taking nice care of your dog and treating it properly, to each his own.

[Luigi]

You would think that an organization that is against choke collars, prong collars, and chaining, would also be against the use of electric fences. Guess not. :rolleyes:
I've used one. They're actually more humane than you would think, IF you use them properly---big IF there. I don't, however, recommend them for most pits.

[WWII]

I just don't see how they could be against a chain, but by-golly, you can electricute your dog.

[Luigi]

I just don't see how they could be against a chain, but by-golly, you can electricute your dog.
I hear ya. You can actually control the level of "correction"---ha, ha, you like that? That's what they call it. I had mine set to the level of if you were to hit your finger on a plug prong while plugging it in---the weakest setting. There is a warning beep before the correction, and you can set the warning beep as far from or as close to the "correction" area as you want.

My dog went through it only once while he was training, and the only other time he would go through was if he didn't hear the warning beep, because he knew the battery was dead. :)

The dog I used it on had HUGE seperation anxiety issues, and this was the only thing that settled him out. He was a very dominant dog with other dogs, but not aggressive with anything or anyone, (except the occasional squirrel, chipmunk, or frog). : ( I would never use it on the two dogs I own now.

[Ivan-Pitbull mix]

i chain my dog when i go to school. Just like seal said: as long as u care for dog and etc. I walk him and let him play in the back yard before and after chaining. Sometimes we leave him inside but others hes chained, if he EVER got out thered be something dead to find. Lol, high prey drive and very dog-aggerisive....it gets annoying.
He will spend hours running back and forth in the yard after we saw a squirrel go by, good work out, lol. He loves to go after all small animals and just about any animal, but he loves people and knows the diff between killer and young child.

[rocksteady]

electric fences are nothing but false security. They do not prevent people or kids from entering your yard or other animals for that fact..

[Superglue]

I not going to say much about everything else but I do know one thing I do not approve of is using carpet in any of my kennels.I will give you a terrible story that happened to me.I had a beautiful pit about 12 years ago and dumb a.... me decided to put carpet down before leaving for the lake for two days.I loaded up the feeder and filled 3 5 gallon buckets cut in half for water.I asked my dad two check on her while I was gone but he didnt make it over.I returned from the lake to find her with that carpet wrapped around her leg.I cut the carpet off but it was to late,the carpet had cut the circulation off for two long, she had to have it amputated.I wanted to sh..t myself in the head for letting something that stupid happen.Im not very good with these things,so if someone knows the best way to do it,please make them change that crap.

[TrubsDiary]

since i live in an appartment while going to school, my dog is at my parents house on a chain. he has always lived on the chain and dosent mind it at all.. he actually pulls me to take him home after i take him out for a run. since i'm busy w/ school i make it out to see my dog as often as possible. when i cannot make it out, my parents take him for a run for me. he's a well adjusted dog, if you were to ask anyone that has met him. the biggest thing about chained dogs is that they get the care and attention they need. i've seen full grown dogs kept in kennels in a house for 8-12 hr strait and having to go to the bathroom all over them selvs.. how in the world could this be more humane than putting the poor animal out on a chain so it can do it's business and have room to run.. but being on a chain has it's risks too.. i've heard of stupid people who attach their chains in a position where the dog can get tangled up and either die from sunburn/heat stroke in the summer, or hang themselfs w/ their chain and coller... people like this should't have a dog period.

[Luigi]

electric fences are nothing but false security. They do not prevent people or kids from entering your yard or other animals for that fact.. It wasn't a false sense of security for the dog I used it on. He was very secure, it helped to manage his seperation anxiety, he never hurt a dog that came in the yard or got hurt, he never hurt a person that came in the yard or got hurt. The worse that happened was the occasional loss of a squirrel, a chipmunk, or a frog. He never even hurt cats that went through my yard.

Do you take issue with everything I do?

Oh, and by the way, he lived for almost 16 years.

[J Henry]

I have used chains for every bulldog that I have owned with no ill effects.

[Luigi]

I have used chains for every bulldog that I have owned with no ill effects.
You probably take nice care of them. :)

[rocksteady]

It wasn't a false sense of security for the dog I used it on. He was very secure, it helped to manage his seperation anxiety, he never hurt a dog that came in the yard or got hurt, he never hurt a person that came in the yard or got hurt. The worse that happened was the occasional loss of a squirrel, a chipmunk, or a frog. He never even hurt cats that went through my yard.

Do you take issue with everything I do?

Oh, and by the way, he lived for almost 16 years.
he might not have but you never know about other people and other animals..you got lucky in that aspect.

I have issues with things that are done incorrectly and issues with things that are not presented in full

[J Henry]

I take excellent care of my dogs. They are working dogs and need to be healthy in both mind and body.

[ariel rios]

I personally prefer keeping my dogs in kennels. I make it a point to make sure my kennels are secure. I have nothing against a good chain set up as long as it is checked on a regular basis. In the past I have had swivels and/or chains break which has resulted in yard accidents. I also prefer kennels because they tend to be easier to keep clean if they have cement floors. Also, during rainy weather, a kennel with a cement floor is better for dogs. They don't have to deal with all the flooding and mud.

[Luigi]

he might not have but you never know about other people and other animals..you got lucky in that aspect.

I have issues with things that are done incorrectly and issues with things that are not presented in full
I didn't get lucky, I knew my dog.

I stated that I do not recommend this type of containment system for pitbulls, for exactly the reasons you stated.

I also stated that I do not use this system for the dogs I currently own.

I throroughly explained my use of invisible fencing for that particular dog, specifically so people would not think I condone using it on all pitbulls.

Maybe I shouldn't take your comments so personal. Just seems you take issue with most things I post. For the record, I will say again, I have worked with this breed for a long time, and have owned them for longer. I have never had one single negative incident with my dogs because I am very concerned about how this breed is perceived.

If you want to continue debating me about my choice of invisible fencing for the dog I used it on, please pm me. I'd be happy to share with you further how I managed him on it, how he was always supervised on it, how he was indoors when I was not at home, etc., but I don't want to monopolize this thread debating you.

Peace . . .

[tommy3]

I didn't get lucky, I knew my dog.

I stated that I do not recommend this type of containment system for pitbulls, for exactly the reasons you stated.

I also stated that I do not use this system for the dogs I currently own.

I throroughly explained my use of invisible fencing for that particular dog, specifically so people would not think I condone using it on all pitbulls.

Maybe I shouldn't take your comments so personal. Just seems you take issue with most things I post. For the record, I will say again, I have worked with this breed for a long time, and have owned them for longer. I have never had one single negative incident with my dogs because I am very concerned about how this breed is perceived.

If you want to continue debating me about my choice of invisible fencing for the dog I used it on, please pm me. I'd be happy to share with you further how I managed him on it, how he was always supervised on it, how he was indoors when I was not at home, etc., but I don't want to monopolize this thread debating you.

Peace . . .
I believe he was talking about the fact that you won't be able to keep other dogs off of your yard with an electric fence. Therefore, regardless of how well you know your dog, it is not safe.

[rocksteady]

exactly what I was referring to Tommy.. a false sense of security. Your dog may not leave the yard but it doesnt stop the neighbors out of control "insert your breed of choice here" from running over and grabbing fluffy ..
all these things take seconds to happen ..even if you are standing there and watching your dog..

[GaDog]

If you can not afford proper kennels that will contain your dog then you should chain them. What ever you do with your dog contain it so that it will never have the chance to make the local of national news.

[Luigi]

exactly what I was referring to Tommy.. a false sense of security. Your dog may not leave the yard but it doesnt stop the neighbors out of control "insert your breed of choice here" from running over and grabbing fluffy ..
all these things take seconds to happen ..even if you are standing there and watching your dog..
Oh, oh, I agree with you. You're saying some OTHER rotten dog hurting my dog? I would agree with that---however, I live on quite a few acres of land, know every dog in my area, and we have a leash law here that is very strictly enforced. I never once, in all those years, had any issue even close to that one. I would NEVER have used the system if I had any concern for my dog's safety. You'd have to see where I live and the set-up I have for my dogs to understand . . .