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Marty
10-24-2005, 10:29 PM
Jersey City, NJ A Jersey City police officer reportedly threatened to shoot a 7-month-old pit bull puppy for not being on a leash - then came back with a dozen cops after the dog's owner filed a complaint.

Carlos Echevarria, 35, admitted his puppy was unleashed - for about two seconds, when she ran from his truck and then through the gate of his fenced-in property on Prospect Street about 3 p.m. Thursday.

Echevarria said he'd parked in front of his Prospect Street home and let the pit bull, Gracie, out of the car and through the gate of his 4-foot fence. The dog bounded up the steps onto the front stoop and waited for Echevarria, with her tail wagging and nose pressed against the front door, as he fished out his house keys.

At that point, Echevarria said, Jersey City Police Officer Juan Berrios walked over and delivered his threat.

"He said, 'You better put that dog on a leash or I'll shoot it,'" recalled Echevarria as Gracie, a rambunctious, friendly blue-nosed American pit bull, played at his feet.

"I said, 'Excuse me?' and he repeated it three times, 'I'm going to shoot your dog,'" Echevarria said. "I felt like he was threatening to shoot one of my own kids."

Echevarria said Gracie stayed on the stoop as he spoke to the officer, who was working a traffic detail on Prospect Street during road work.

"I know she is a pit bull but she did not growl or bark at him," he said. "All she would do is lick you to death. Kids come to my door and ask if they can play with her all the time."

Echevarria said he asked Berrios for his badge number and the cop reportedly replied: "1-2-3-4."

Berrios could not be reached for comment yesterday.

After the exchange, Echevarria said he went to the North Precinct and filed a complaint. When he got home, he said, "my house was surrounded by 12 cops."

He said one of the officers then handed him two tickets - with fines totaling $112 - one for failure to leash the dog and another for not showing proper canine identification and registration.

He said he was was never asked for the dog's registration, or he would have provided it. The dog is registered, according to Jersey City Animal Control Officer Joe Frank.

A police spokesman, Sgt. Edgar Martinez, said he would not comment specifically on Echevarria's complaint, but said it is not police policy to threaten to shoot unleashed dogs.

"Since he filed a complaint, we now cannot comment on an ongoing investigation," he said.

Hudson County Prosecutor Edward DeFazio said that based on Echevarria's story, he did not break any laws.

"Dogs don't have to be leashed on private property. Leash laws are aimed for public property only," DeFazio said.

Neighbors support Echevarria's defense of Gracie's demeanor.

"She's a very excitable dog but I like her, everybody says she's great," one neighbor said. "She really listens to him, too. I don't think if I approached her she would bite me, just jump up and down."

http://www.nj.com/news/jjournal/index.ssf?/base/news-0/113014509877480.xml&coll=3&thispage=1




Suki
10-24-2005, 10:45 PM
OMG, Marty=this JUST happened to me this summer, as well.


different story, same idea:
I pulled over to help a fellow biker=he was stuck REAL good in some loose rock/gravel type stuff, and I felt bad for him, so, I offered my assistance, had Venus in the car with me.
Anyhow, we KEEP trying to dislodge his tires. The more he hit that throttle, the deeper the tires went. About 20 minutes into it, a cop, (sigh), pulls up. The typical, What's the problem here? (like it's not obvious). I refrain from my usual sarcasim, and briefly tell of the problem.The guy, (biker) looked a little toasty, and was fumbling his words...so, I stepped up to the plate..
Then the cop walks over to my car, sees all my pitbull stickers on it, looks inside, at Venus. She's getting pissed-I can tell, still, she's sitting like a little lady. Then the cop turns to me and says, "If your dog gets out, I'm gunna put a bullet in her"!!!! then gives me "that look"!!!!
Well, I tell the brother, hey, you're on your own. Good luck, cuz your bike ain't worth my dog, and with that, I left, ....VERY PEEVED, to say the least!!!!
Cripes, I read your title, and it was like a flash back!!!!
Friggin cop!!!!!

missybee16
10-24-2005, 11:22 PM
Some of our own Officers, act stupid at times about Pit's too. It's fear talking. Some would rather take a bullet, instead of being bit by a dog.

luv_a_bull_girl
10-25-2005, 12:36 AM
stupid f*(&!^g cops...

Crash97
10-25-2005, 09:53 AM
Had a very similar exchange....except the assh*le cop didn't say it to me, he said it to my father. The cop asked him if it was a pitbull. My father said "yes, but she's extremely friendly", at which point the cop said "Well if she comes outta the car, I'm gonna shoot her." I didn't get told about this until the cop had already driven off.

Some real winners wearing the badge now a days.

ScrappyDoo
10-25-2005, 10:48 AM
We had something like that happen at our house once. Our pit came out of the house when a police officer came to the door. Luckily, my husband called the dog back into the house and he listened. The officer told us that we were lucky that he went in right away or he would have shot him.

Defend2DaEnd
10-25-2005, 11:06 AM
Last month someone reported two Pit Bulls abandoned (which they weren't I saw a guy go in that house to take care of those dogs several times and on the news you could see the dogs they were well taken care. He even had an eight foot privacy fenced back yard) So the animal control officer came and left a not I guess regulation and no one replied so they went in the house. Supposedly both the dogs were in crates but one of them managed to get out and bit the animal control officer. So later that night I went outside and right in front of kids and the whole neighborhood a cop broke out the top part of the back window and shot BOTH of the dogs. I was astonished I couldn't help but cry. Those poor dogs were just protecting their territory. They didn't have to shot both of them when only ONE dog bit the person. It's disgusting what they get away with.
Here is the small clip about the incident. I wrote the news station saying that this should of been handled differently. There was five year old kids watching all this.
http://www.whiotv.com/news/5078973/detail.html

nappydawg
10-25-2005, 11:54 AM
most pigs whoops i mean cops will have their guns drawn when they come to my house. they all know i have "pits". i just look at em like they are stupid. i am the one they have to worry about. i will attack harder and quicker than any of my dogs. lol i told a f***ing pig that one day. cops ain't worth a sh** in my book. and stories like this prove that i am right.

mydawgs
10-25-2005, 12:58 PM
There is something so ironic about an organization that values and trains dogs to be human aggressive, for a valid purpose of course, but will not think twice about shooting a dog that is bred to be human passive. Makes no sense.......

ScrappyDoo
10-25-2005, 01:20 PM
Now don't get me wrong, there are alot of good cops out there but there are alot of crooked ones too. Kinda off the subject of dogs, my mom said that the one by her house would sit across the street at night and watch her undress. One night she shot him the bird and he never bothered her after that.

GD2
10-25-2005, 01:34 PM
If That Was Me I Would Have Gotten A Lawyer And Made A Big Ol Stink About It I Would Not Stop Till Some Action Was Taken. This Has Never Happened To Me But Just Reading All These Stories Pissed Me Off.

rocksteady
10-25-2005, 04:07 PM
Now Im not trying to stick up for the police..but having done a bit of "law enforcement" in the USCG, theres a natural fear of any type of dog.. that not only goes for Pit Bulls, GSDs, Rotties, but any dog acting aggressive or coming towards them. REmember..police often work in uptight, not so friendly situations where tempers flare.. and we all know how our dogs pick up on that sort of thing..

Face it, while you might get bit by fluffy the toy poodle, fluffy isnt going to maul a grown man. And Many dogs (regardless of breed) react differently to ANYONE in a uniform ..(color blindess issue comes into effect here)

Lastly, police are not out to save dogs lives, they are first and foremost out to protect and serve humans. Its sad they carry the frenzy way to far..horrible actually..you would think them and humane law enforcement would be a bit more knowledgeable ..

Im not sticking up for them.. from whats been described, I dont agree with it..no reason to shoot dogs in crates or dogs confined in a yard or dogs where their owners are present and able to control them or even threaten to do so (yes,I ve had officers tell me "how I almost had to shoot one of those)

But if I were in their shoes and trying to do my job and had a dog coming after me which I DIDNT know you better beleive I wouldnt hesiate to protect myself and not wait to see what the dog is going to do.. (note, that does not mean shoot.. pepper spray is just as effective at deterring a dog)

Again, that doesnt make any of what has been said right ..but police and other uniformed people like Postal workers, firefighters, military..whether you like them or not, come into alot more contact with strange dogs in not so friendly circumstances..

Judy
10-25-2005, 05:01 PM
There is something so ironic about an organization that values and trains dogs to be human aggressive, for a valid purpose of course, but will not think twice about shooting a dog that is bred to be human passive. Makes no sense.......
I know, weird huh? http://spbr.org/pbsmiles/upload/smilies/newest/dazed032.gif

missybee16
10-26-2005, 10:33 PM
Well, the unit I'm in, carries poles. So, if we've been called in, the dog won't get hurt at all. I wish every call that comes in could have the same out come.