View Full Version : what makes jeep the best line of all times.
edward
10-12-2005, 11:34 PM
1st thing is everyone that says they have jeep dont,its the most popular name in the pitbull world(besides dibo),now i know frisco fans are going nuts,and let me say anyone that says thier are no good frisco dogs is nuts,now back to jeep,his dam was ch.honeybunch(the best producing bitch of all times)his sire was ch.bo also r.o.m.,now let me say jeep had just won over b.stepp,stepp had a world beater named gr.ch.angus,angus had beat ch.otis,and ch.freddie i believe,freddie was a littermate to ch.homer,angus came up hurt,so homers owner took over the contest,and believe me they brought a bulldog,now i will speak nothing but truths in my opionion,homer took his last breath,trying to get to jeep,but remember jeep deafeated him in over 3 hours,close to 4,jeep sister,ch.holly was a super pit dog mouth ability ect....,jeeps brother ch.charlie was also a champion,who lost 1,but he was said to be a finisher,jeep had another brother off a different sire,gr.ch.weehunt,another gr.ch.snake,another ch.rascal jr.who also went close to 3 hours on one of his wins,jeep dogs have great temperments,now people are crossing alot of it,hence some people biters,now patrick will say gr.ch.buck,was a canidate,that family does produce good dogs,but not like the the jeep family,some will say frisco,thier are so many crazy sayings about that line i just dont know,but chinaman daddy was a cur or cold,and so was abernathys molly,chinaman was a great dog though,look when looking for lines what was going over 15 years ago and still going now JEEP,through ch.tramp,tab r.o.m.,masons smily,longs weirdo r.o.m., i could go on and on,so newcomer when starting out,get the real thing,not because they say they got it,get from a reptuable breeder,it might cost more,but jeep is her now and will be here years from now,just my opionion,dont mean to put any other line down.
DEACON ROM
10-12-2005, 11:38 PM
1st thing is everyone that says they have jeep dont,its the most popular name in the pitbull world(besides dibo),now i know frisco fans are going nuts,and let me say anyone that says thier are no good frisco dogs is nuts,now back to jeep,his dam was ch.honeybunch(the best producing bitch of all times)his sire was ch.bo also r.o.m.,now let me say jeep had just won over b.stepp,stepp had a world beater named gr.ch.angus,angus had beat ch.otis,and ch.freddie i believe,freddie was a littermate to ch.homer,angus came up hurt,so homers owner took over the contest,and believe me they brought a bulldog,now i will speak nothing but truths in my opionion,homer took his last breath,trying to get to jeep,but remember jeep deafeated him in over 3 hours,close to 4,jeep sister,ch.holly was a super pit dog mouth ability ect....,jeeps brother ch.charlie was also a champion,who lost 1,but he was said to be a finisher,jeep had another brother off a different sire,gr.ch.weehunt,another gr.ch.snake,another ch.rascal jr.who also went close to 3 hours on one of his wins,jeep dogs have great temperments,now people are crossing alot of it,hence some people biters,now patrick will say gr.ch.buck,was a canidate,that family does produce good dogs,but not like the the jeep family,some will say frisco,thier are so many crazy sayings about that line i just dont know,but chinaman daddy was a cur or cold,and so was abernathys molly,chinaman was a great dog though,look when looking for lines what was going over 15 years ago and still going now JEEP,through ch.tramp,tab r.o.m.,masons smily,longs weirdo r.o.m., i could go on and on,so newcomer when starting out,get the real thing,not because they say they got it,get from a reptuable breeder,it might cost more,but jeep is her now and will be here years from now,just my opionion,dont mean to put any other line down.
so.........got any awesome jeep peds you care to share? or is this another cut and paste forum poster?
thank you for your time.
searkkennels
10-12-2005, 11:52 PM
i don't think it is the most popular, and frisco definetly not .. lol
kwatts04
10-13-2005, 12:05 AM
I may be crazy but Jeep aint the popular all over. Ive heard people say Eli alot! And on top of that every clown that Has a pit with no peds or any way of knowing what they have say ....O i got a boudreaux dog.....wtf! but Jeep blood is really good these days but I'll Stick to the ol cajun blood....ELI!
ChAnimal
10-13-2005, 12:06 AM
i don't think it is the most popular, and frisco definetly not .. lol
Jeep LOL. If u wanna suck ears for three hours then yea sure go buy a jeep dog.
even 1/8th Jeep is enough to wreck ur dogs.
edward
10-13-2005, 04:30 AM
Jeep LOL. If u wanna suck ears for three hours then yea sure go buy a jeep dog.
even 1/8th Jeep is enough to wreck ur dogs.well all opionions,are great here is mine again,listen today you got bitem up,eatem up dogs,so when alot of dogs quit in 20,its o.k,we have gotton away with breeding game dogs,crossing to get that monster,now before jeep went the marathon,with homer,he beat v.cooper weenie,b.stepp,and they were the top best ,dogmen in thier day,when you step up in competition you better come correct,ch.simba was a 4x,and a good dog when he steped up he didnt go over 30,an ear sucker that knows what he or shes doing can frustrate a dog,im just speaking from observation,and homer was a great dog,he had beat some good dogs before jeep,also when buck stepped up to sandman it went over 3 hours,i know you need ability,mouth,ect,but by god when all thats gone you better have gameness.
ChAnimal
10-13-2005, 09:10 AM
well all opionions,are great here is mine again,listen today you got bitem up,eatem up dogs,so when alot of dogs quit in 20,its o.k,we have gotton away with breeding game dogs,crossing to get that monster,now before jeep went the marathon,with homer,he beat v.cooper weenie,b.stepp,and they were the top best ,dogmen in thier day,when you step up in competition you better come correct,ch.simba was a 4x,and a good dog when he steped up he didnt go over 30,an ear sucker that knows what he or shes doing can frustrate a dog,im just speaking from observation,and homer was a great dog,he had beat some good dogs before jeep,also when buck stepped up to sandman it went over 3 hours,i know you need ability,mouth,ect,but by god when all thats gone you better have gameness.
Everyone has their own opinions and i gave u mine. And btw other lines have produced dogs that have gone over 3 hrs.
Scotsman
10-13-2005, 09:57 AM
Angus never came up hurt, Jeep's owner dodged the match up. He knew Angus would have destroyed Jeep.
edward
10-13-2005, 12:14 PM
Angus never came up hurt, Jeep's owner dodged the match up. He knew Angus would have destroyed Jeep.well i was around then,and live in the same state,as b.stepp,back then,jeep did not dodge angus,either you or i am misinformed,and yes thier are other lines,redboy,turtlbuster,mayday,ect....im just saying,whats been around for awhile,i love other lines,but what will throw mouth,abilty,gameness,and you dont have to go out of the line,JEEP,and like i said everyone that says jeep dont have jeep,now years ago i use to talk to r.jones of rebel kennels,he was winning alot of his hog hunts,now i know what ricky did,but you see,i am in the dogs,not the man,well ricky told me,your winningest dogs are jeep/rascal,next he said redboy,now this guy was really well off,way better than me,so i listened,well its been fun time to move on.
LOL... if one line was perfect everyone would be feeding it. Jeep is so hyped that its become the "dogger" starter kit to have at least a couple of dogs with "Jeep" in the pedigree. There is no perfect dog or line and as long as you keep honest with yourself about your dogs you have just as good a chance as anyone at putting some good dogs out.
B
edward
10-13-2005, 01:38 PM
LOL... if one line was perfect everyone would be feeding it. Jeep is so hyped that its become the "dogger" starter kit to have at least a couple of dogs with "Jeep" in the pedigree. There is no perfect dog or line and as long as you keep honest with yourself about your dogs you have just as good a chance as anyone at putting some good dogs out.
BI AGREE,WITH THE LAST PART,I WAS NOT COMEING BACK,BUT PLEASE TAKE IN ACCOUNT,THIS IS MY THOUGHTS,YOURS COULD BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT,SOMETIMES JEEP LINE WILL PRODUCE CURS,LIKE ANY OTHER,BUT WHEN IT DOES PRODUCE,ITS GOOD,CULL,CULL,CULL,WITH ANY LINE,AND IT WILL BE O.K,I DIDNT SAY JEEP WAS A PERFECT LINE,I SAID I LIKED IT,BUT I DO RESPECT YOUR OPIONION,BECAUSE ITS TRUE.
edward
10-13-2005, 01:57 PM
I Really Agree,really With The Last Part,believe Me Jeep Line Produce A Lot Of Curs,you Must Cull,cull,cull,with Any Line,i Was Not Comeing Back On This Article,the Thoughts Were Just Mine,but I Do Respect And Love To Read Other Opionions,becuase I Might Learn Something.
DEACON ROM
10-13-2005, 05:22 PM
so......who was the best son of jeep? any opinions? producer? performer? roughest? smartest?......
DEACON ROM
10-13-2005, 07:11 PM
um.....bump that!
BOXDOG
12-29-2005, 02:36 PM
some think tramp was 1 of the best ,deep game and a complete gamedog , but i also heard floyd was a great 1 himself .
Ky_PitBulls
12-29-2005, 04:16 PM
LOL... if one line was perfect everyone would be feeding it. Jeep is so hyped that its become the "dogger" starter kit to have at least a couple of dogs with "Jeep" in the pedigree. There is no perfect dog or line and as long as you keep honest with yourself about your dogs you have just as good a chance as anyone at putting some good dogs out.
B
B, has said it best i think
If jeep met chinaman....
Deadgame...
How about giving proven scatter-bred dogs a chance to be included in the mix?
How will we find the next great champ if we continue to recycle the same blood?
Alot of scatter-bred dogs are not worth the time and hard work. Few maybe able to break the bubble and turn into a champion or even produce! The good ones of those unknown or scatter bred dogs are good in the ring and may even become a champion, but produce little to nothing. At least, a proven dog is known from a good stock and bloodline.
Saiyagin
12-29-2005, 05:13 PM
There are many many line bred Jeep dogs of today it all depends who bred them and what that particular breeder bred them for. Most Jeep stock out there are untested pretty pedigrees which make the Jeep line look very popular because they are living on Jeeps past glory and not on there own merit. Then there are some breeders that breed proven hard tested Jeep stock that is the real deal. In my opinion the Jeep blood is a all around average to above average line you may get some good dogs but usually not great dogs. The best trait of the Jeep line in my opinion is consistancy. The Jeep line as well as many other bloodlines become even better when crossed out into certain lines that click well with each other for example the Jeep/Redboy line is a proven cross which works well with each other if they both come from proven stock. The best cross that I like that has worked well for me and many others is the Jeep/Redboy with ELI this cross has shown to produce some great dogs even a few freak monsters. There is no really one best line because good dogs are where you find em.
Rockstar
12-29-2005, 11:11 PM
In my opinion the Jeep blood is a all around average to above average line you may get some good dogs but usually not great dogs.
These days it seems people are more concerned with breeding whatever is popular, as opposed to trying to breed the better dog. When great lines become the mainstream, the advantage is lost.
How will we find the next great champ if we continue to recycle the same blood?
What an excellent question. Today the great dogs are the ones being put through 10,000-dollar keeps and shown by expert handlers. Gameness and raw ability just isn't always enough to cut it anymore, not when five thousand other dogs are bred similar to yours.
MACHETTI
01-09-2006, 01:16 PM
well all opionions,are great here is mine again,listen today you got bitem up,eatem up dogs,so when alot of dogs quit in 20,its o.k,we have gotton away with breeding game dogs,crossing to get that monster,now before jeep went the marathon,with homer,he beat v.cooper weenie,b.stepp,and they were the top best ,dogmen in thier day,when you step up in competition you better come correct,ch.simba was a 4x,and a good dog when he steped up he didnt go over 30,an ear sucker that knows what he or shes doing can frustrate a dog,im just speaking from observation,and homer was a great dog,he had beat some good dogs before jeep,also when buck stepped up to sandman it went over 3 hours,i know you need ability,mouth,ect,but by god when all thats gone you better have gameness.
GOOD POINT
Jeep Rules! It has proven itself! Jeep blood has stood the test of time. When crossed right, it still produces champions. Remember, Jeep himself was considered a scatterbred dog but when he became champion, there was a line started after him. A stron line primarily because the Jeep Line has the foundation of a good line which is pure gameness. You can't beat gameness. It is what the old timers bred for unlike the modern dogmen who want mouth and ability but truly neglect gameness even though they claim to breed for it.
DEACON ROM
01-16-2006, 07:14 PM
some think tramp was 1 of the best ,deep game and a complete gamedog , but i also heard floyd was a great 1 himself .
tramp wasnt jeeps best son.... although he was a "jeep" dog "w/ finish" with a "good" mouth and threw "good" mouth.
ChAnimal
01-16-2006, 09:22 PM
well all opionions,are great here is mine again,listen today you got bitem up,eatem up dogs,so when alot of dogs quit in 20,its o.k,we have gotton away with breeding game dogs,crossing to get that monster,now before jeep went the marathon,with homer,he beat v.cooper weenie,b.stepp,and they were the top best ,dogmen in thier day,when you step up in competition you better come correct,ch.simba was a 4x,and a good dog when he steped up he didnt go over 30,an ear sucker that knows what he or shes doing can frustrate a dog,im just speaking from observation,and homer was a great dog,he had beat some good dogs before jeep,also when buck stepped up to sandman it went over 3 hours,i know you need ability,mouth,ect,but by god when all thats gone you better have gameness.
Quit in 20? Let me explain something. If u got one that blows through everthing and u quite cant test him why not just take him out? Most of the beatem up/chew up dog throw game dogs ands thats a fact or none of us would be botherin with em ok. Just cause these lines tend to throw a couple of aces they are now all 20 min curs?
Proven Jeep blood will give you a level of consistency. & nowadays, the proven crosses have become the standard-bearer of some pretty good bulldogs. As far as breeding traits, Gameness is the constant. You look for traits like ability, mouth, & natural wind in a game dog. Because if your betting on mouth alone your going to lose your ass!
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