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[pitlver]

since coming to this forum i have really learned a lot about our breed but lately all i read is others putting people's dogs down and alot of childish name calling and aruging and telling people not to breed their dogs or what make their dogs worthy to be breed but yet and still the ones who are telling this are doing it. i often wonder is it because they want to be the only ones with this breed. what if someone asks us what makes us worthy of having kids see the point? its a shame because others who are honestly trying to learn will become discouraged.

[CB]

since coming to this forum i have really learned a lot about our breed but lately all i read is others putting people's dogs down and alot of childish name calling and aruging and telling people not to breed their dogs or what make their dogs worthy to be breed but yet and still the ones who are telling this are doing it. i often wonder is it because they want to be the only ones with this breed. what if someone asks us what makes us worthy of having kids see the point? its a shame because others who are honestly trying to learn will become discouraged.Glad to see you learning on the site as well as i have to. But people are doing this to educate the people that have the breed and arent know alot about it and want to breed because there dogs have nice colors. WRONG. you dont breed because of that. Your dog should be a worthy to breed. And these blue dogs arent APBT they are mutts and thats what we call them. Just sit back and you will see where we are coming from.

[Shon]

Although many of the blue dogs are in fact mutts, some of them are not, they are just simply a different breed of dog with a different purpose. However, they are also included as a "pit bull" in the eyes of the public and many people on this forum. The word "pit bull" used to refer to the American Pit Bull Terrier, but it seems as though the phrase has been broadened to include all of it's look-a-likes as well.

[The Watcher]

"This is a very diverse forum. We have rescuers, and breeders, and for the most part we all get along. We all have our opinions, have our semi-heated discussions, and when the dust settles, we all still respect each other in the morning. It works, just relax, and stay awhile. You have a great opportunity to learn a lot."

well said.....

[pitlver]

since seeing some of your threads on this site your reply doesn't suprise me. you are the same guy who was talking about buying a gun but was crying about money to take your dog to the vet. stop straddling the fence and get on one side or the other. :( Glad to see you learning on the site as well as i have to. But people are doing this to educate the people that have the breed and arent know alot about it and want to breed because there dogs have nice colors. WRONG. you dont breed because of that. Your dog should be a worthy to breed. And these blue dogs arent APBT they are mutts and thats what we call them. Just sit back and you will see where we are coming from.

[pitlver]

i feel you when u say we all our opinions but some of the things said are unnecessary and unprovoked. everyone can benefit from this forum. as the old saying goes its not what u say but how u say it.;) This is a very diverse forum. We have rescuers, and breeders, and for the most part we all get along. We all have our opinions, have our semi-heated discussions, and when the dust settles, we all still respect each other in the morning. It works, just relax, and stay awhile. You have a great opportunity to learn a lot.

[CB]

since seeing some of your threads on this site your reply doesn't suprise me. you are the same guy who was talking about buying a gun but was crying about money to take your dog to the vet. stop straddling the fence and get on one side or the other. :(Dont talk down to me when you dont know shit i took my dog'S to the vet and spent 500$ on the vet bill to get the problems solved dont ever talk down to me and dont think i dont take care of my dogs.

[CB]

Easy.....take a deep breath. Never take the bait.She/He is so fast to say about how he/she thinks i dont take care of my dogs but yet she ask why we say some dogs are mutts. YOU (not you MTA) need to close your trap before you talk about somebody's pets.

[pitlver]

seems like i touched a nerve. i didn't say u didn't take care of your dogs and what i said was a fact. as far as talking down to you what i said was the truth you flip-flop more than a cook at ihop:p Dont talk down to me when you dont know shit i took my dog'S to the vet and spent 500$ on the vet bill to get the problems solved dont ever talk down to me and dont think i dont take care of my dogs.

[mydawgs]

The "Sizing" post goes into nauseating detail as to the thoughts of all on breeding, pit bull breeds, etc. Yeh, lots a folks might of sounded off but we all got past it...refer to the post "This forum sucks..." but before we start a similar post, and waste good cyber bandwidth lets be thankful we are not facing what Mia and WB have to and use this time to pull together to be strong for our fellow members who need us right now. *****stepping down from soap box*******

[CB]

seems like i touched a nerve. i didn't say u didn't take care of your dogs and what i said was a fact. as far as talking down to you what i said was the truth you flip-flop more than a cook at ihop:pTahaha. Yes i said i would think about getting a gun to protect my dogs but i didnt i went and spent 180$ on a security camera's and thats for my pets. I spent 500$ at the vet on my PETS so tell me how i am not taking care of my pets.

[pitlver]

my my aren"t we all on edge these days. not on any soapbox just stating what i have witnessed. didn't someone say we all have our opinionsThe "Sizing" post goes into nauseating detail as to the thoughts of all on breeding, pit bull breeds, etc. Yeh, lots a folks might of sounded off but we all got past it...refer to the post "This forum sucks..." but before we start a similar post, and waste good cyber bandwidth lets be thankful we are not facing what Mia and WB have to and use this time to pull together to be strong for our fellow members who need us right now. *****stepping down from soap box*******

[pitlver]

show me where i said you didn't take care of your petsTahaha. Yes i said i would think about getting a gun to protect my dogs but i didnt i went and spent 180$ on a security camera's and thats for my pets. I spent 500$ at the vet on my PETS so tell me how i am not taking care of my pets.

[CB]

show me where i said you didn't take care of your petsYour saying that by saying i would rather buy a gun but not take my dog to the vet. You need to know what your talking about before you open your lips. Like somebody put a quote on the site (i forgot who it was) but it was (Shut your mouth and learn) something like that. You obviously havnt learned alot on the forum except to try and instegate somebody and get them to yell at you. But ill stop and make you look like the asshole.

[pitlver]

just the words u use goes to show u are the asshole:) Your saying that by saying i would rather buy a gun but not take my dog to the vet. You need to know what your talking about before you open your lips. Like somebody put a quote on the site (i forgot who it was) but it was (Shut your mouth and learn) something like that. You obviously havnt learned alot on the forum except to try and instegate somebody and get them to yell at you. But ill stop and make you look like the asshole.

[mydawgs]

my my aren"t we all on edge these days. not on any soapbox just stating what i have witnessed. didn't someone say we all have our opinions
I'm sorry, I guess I am a little on edge, whats goin on down south sickens me, makes me feel helpless, sad.....the issues you have opinions about are well represented by others, READ THE POSTS I referenced. My point is they have been discussed to death and it is a waste of cyber space bandwidth to re-hash them. And BTW, my post indicated I was the one on the soap box, not you. Have a very pleasant evening.

[CB]

just the words u use goes to show u are the asshole:)Yup and your noob responses show how hard headed you are and are on the site to do nothing but stir up things on the site. Just by making this thread.

[pitlver]

you too lets all pray for the people down southI'm sorry, I guess I am a little on edge, whats goin on down south sickens me, makes me feel helpless, sad.....the issues you have opinions about are well represented by others, READ THE POSTS I referenced. My point is they have been discussed to death and it is a waste of cyber space bandwidth to re-hash them. And BTW, my post indicated I was the one on the soap box, not you. Have a very pleasant evening.

[mydawgs]

Yup and your noob responses show how hard headed you are and are on the site to do nothing but stir up things on the site. Just by making this thread.
You said it carolinaboy, so lets walk away and see how long he/she can argue with his/herself.

[14rock]

since coming to this forum i have really learned a lot about our breed but lately all i read is others putting people's dogs down and alot of childish name calling and aruging and telling people not to breed their dogs or what make their dogs worthy to be breed but yet and still the ones who are telling this are doing it. i often wonder is it because they want to be the only ones with this breed. what if someone asks us what makes us worthy of having kids see the point? its a shame because others who are honestly trying to learn will become discouraged.
Its a great thing that you are learning from this site, as we all are. The truth of the matter is, we are so passionate about some topics because in our eyes this is whats ruining the breed. We never had problems with the media attacking "pitbulls" when it was just respectable dogmen and their gamebred dogs. Now that people have gotten away from that, have no standards for breeding, and sell a blue mutt for 1500 bucks to joe citizen off the street we are seeing our favorite breed being banned at alarming rates all across America while some entire countries have them banned. People get hot and tend to not sugar-coat things when in their eyes the person they are talking to is one of the ones who is contributing to the pitbull problem. Uneducated owners like to come here and decide to argue with people who have been in the dogs their entire lives, but they truely believe they are an authority on the dogs because them and all their friends have one! Some uneducated/ignorant members come here and tell dogmen who have been keeping this breed true for decades that their dogs arent even really good APBT's because they are dog-aggressive and arent 90 lbs. with a 23 inch head! If people decide to curr out and not take the advice here,..... so what. They shouldn't own these valiant creatures if they turn tail and run when theres some opposition! This is less of a forum for making everyone feel warm and fuzzy by sugar coating everything and applauding eachother for mutts, and more of a forum where we can share info, viewpoints and other useful knowledge to become a closer network of dog owners. If you haven't noticed yet, not everyone appreciates ''pitties" and "bullies", we love the true APBT, how it was meant to be, not what it is becoming. Bulldog owners tend to be a less than inviting crowd, dont get worked up because no-one wipes your ass and tells you how awesome you are. Sometimes you've got to work a little bit for your info and to be accepted fully!

[MRS_FIFTY]

This thread was started because of a problem someone had with childish name calling and arguing........................................... .........................................just the words u use goes to show u are the asshole:)Nice choice of words threadstarter.:(

[Crash97]

Is this what this forum has come to? WTF we've got constant fighting between gamedog people and the blue/Bully types. Plus we've got threads, posts, links etc. being deleted because they don't fall within the party lines. This sure ain't the site I joined over a year ago. lol

I honestly hate to say it but, this is beginning to feel a lot like others have made Jessups site out to be like.

[Jenn]

Is this what this forum has come to? WTF we've got constant fighting between gamedog people and the blue/Bully types.

I honestly hate to say it but, this is beginning to feel a lot like others have made Jessups site out to be like.
I agee 100%!!! Too much Drama lately! :(

EDIT:
I was agreeing with the too much fighting part. All for discussions - and everyone learning.

[Home of Cujo]

I agee 100%!!! Too much Drama lately! :(


This is part of the internet and this type of thing is found threw out any and all sites, not just dog sites but any and all forums. I for one think this is one of the better places to talk dogs. If each and every one had the same thoughts and ideas there would be nothing to talk about.

[Judy]

This is part of the internet and this type of thing is found threw out any and all sites, not just dog sites but any and all forums. I for one think this is one of the better places to talk dogs. If each and every one had the same thoughts and ideas there would be nothing to talk about.
I agree, I like the diversity and listening to different opinions, and if everyone acts civil then it's all good.

Also, I'm impressed by the support that has been going on in this forum for it's members in need. That is truly awesome.

[Bluepit50]

This is part of the internet and this type of thing is found threw out any and all sites, not just dog sites but any and all forums. I for one think this is one of the better places to talk dogs. If each and every one had the same thoughts and ideas there would be nothing to talk about.Good point!
Discussing issues is healthy and helps some people change opinions for the good. With discussion amongst eachother comes new knowledge!!!!!
Arguements are not healthy and are often caused from individuals who lack the knowledge in the particular area they are pretending to know.
Disrespect comes from individuals who are immature and who should not be on this site as they offer nothing good for anyone or the betterment of the breed.

[Gamest]

Is this what this forum has come to? WTF we've got constant fighting between gamedog people and the blue/Bully types. Plus we've got threads, posts, links etc. being deleted because they don't fall within the party lines. This sure ain't the site I joined over a year ago. lol

I honestly hate to say it but, this is beginning to feel a lot like others have made Jessups site out to be like.
Very well put NAPPY ....... I mean CRASH LMFAO...... If any of these members would like to visit an alternative to this forum , a place where you will not get bashed or jumped on or banned for stupid reasons , please fell free to P.M. me and I will send you the link. There ya go BnD I didnt post a link or anything like that, so please dont erase my post again.

[mike333]

since seeing some of your threads on this site your reply doesn't suprise me. you are the same guy who was talking about buying a gun but was crying about money to take your dog to the vet. stop straddling the fence and get on one side or the other. :(Werent you just complaining about bashing other membsers & theyre dogs?

[Shon]

Very well put NAPPY ....... I mean CRASH LMFAO...... If any of these members would like to visit an alternative to this forum , a place where you will not get bashed or jumped on or banned for stupid reasons , please fell free to P.M. me and I will send you the link.Well, I have come to the conclusion that Jeff's site is strictly about game dogs and do not include the other "pit bull" breeds. Most of the people who are complaining are saying that people are talking bad about their dogs that aren't APBTs. I'm not really sure why I've been told by many people that frequent his site that this site is too full of "pet bull" people and that they do not care for the site as much because of that, but yet people still want to advertise it on here to get more members. Also tell me exactly what would happen if a lot of "pet bull" owners go to his site and start talking about so-called "couch dogs." You're saying that they wouldn't get "bashed or jumped on" or "banned for a stupid reason"? I seriously doubt it, but if you say so.There ya go BnD I didnt post a link or anything like that, so please dont erase my post again.BnD is quite capable of reading and comprehending what he reads, there's no need to try to point out anything to him to supposably make it any easier. You were given a few different reasons why the link can no longer be posted here, so if you can't deal with it or handle it, so be it.

Also... please keep this thread to the original topic or it will be closed. If somebody wants to venture out and find another site to participate in, we have a huge links directory and Google (http://www.google.com) is just a click away.

[Crash97]

You were given a few different reasons why the link can no longer be posted here.Ok, Shon, BnD or anyone else who knows why this certain link (Gamedog Elite) is any different than any other link to another site that has been allowed to be posted here, please respond. Hell, even use PM if you don't wish to say it publicly.

[Gamest]

SHON told me yesterday , cause of spamming or something like that. But he said that he wanted to keep this thread and the post about the original topic or it would be locked , so watch here comes the key I bet. But that is a very good ? CRASH.

[Marty]

Ok, Shon, BnD or anyone else who knows why this certain link (Gamedog Elite) is any different than any other link to another site that has been allowed to be posted here, please respond. Hell, even use PM if you don't wish to say it publicly.Theres a link to his site in the links section of this site. are you saying thats not enough?

[Shon]

First, read the thread titled Gr. Ch. Jeff Banned? (http://www.game-dog.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7780), particularly post #73 (http://www.game-dog.com/forums/showpost.php?p=64609&postcount=73), here I will quote it for you and highlight it to make it easier for you to notice one of the reasons.If anyone has a problem with this site and the way we are trying to run it theres other boards on the net! since all this has happened Jeffs board will not be allowed to be publicized here I suggest you all take it out of your signatures!

This site will not be trashed like all the rest, I wish Jeff all the luck in the world on his site, but the matter is closed, you can reply how you fell this site is being run, I think we can all learn from this thread. Thanks for your time So there's one reason, as per rule #4 on the little bit of rules we currently have, excessive spamming is not allowed ("Advertising is allowed, but will not be tolerated on a large scale"). For a second reason, read my post above, since it is in the same thread, I will not quote it. If I wanted to use a third reason... does the site adhere to the rules and policies we have set forth on this site? I seriously doubt you could honestly answer yes to that since it was one of the main reasons for making it, allowing others to escape the "tyranny". In fact, any site that does no go along with the rules of the site should not be posted anywhere on the site, so be thankful that it is at least still advertised in the links directory.SHON told me yesterday , cause of spamming or something like that.Yeah, you're right... something like that.But he said that he wanted to keep this thread and the post about the original topic or it would be lockedTechnically I want this thread to stay on topic, wanted is past tense, as you should also. A forum is useless with threads containing multiple different "conversations" in a single thread. These are a couple definitions of the word thread that could relate to this: Something that suggests the continuousness of such a strand, cord, or filament (e.g. lost the thread of his argument) and most importantly A set of posts on a newsgroup, (or forum) composed of an initial post about a topic and all responses to it. When a thread gets off topic or is covering different topics, it makes it extremely difficult to follow and completely goes against what a "thread" is.so watch here comes the key I bet.Lol, I won't respond to that right now :pBut that is a very good ? CRASH.Actually, everything I stated as so-called "reasons," which I didn't have to share to begin with, are either already posted in the form of posts or relatively common sense, so no, I wouldn't really call it a "good question", but thanks for saying so anyway, if you hadn't, there probably wouldn't have been a response. ;)

This is the end of this topic in this thread, if you have any more questions or concerns relating to something other than the original topic, please create a new thread in it's perspective forum.

[Crash97]

Ok, the reason it's not allowed in open forum is because we are a gamedog exclusive site for one, and because it was put into some peoples signatures and a couple of our members got out of hand here during debates/ arguments. If so, thank you for clearing it up, and we'll just let this thread get back on topic.

[Shon]

If that's how you want to take it, sure. This site is also a game dog site, and from all of the complaining going on lately, looks to be pretty much exclusive. And, being an exclusive game dog site isn't against nor has anything to do with the rules. I posted exactly what you need to know. Simply read it for what it is and don't add anything to it.

[Crash97]

If that's how you want to take it, sure. This site is also a game dog site, and from all of the complaining going on lately, looks to be pretty much exclusive. And, being an exclusive game dog site isn't against nor has anything to do with the rules. I posted exactly what you need to know. Simply read it for what it is and don't add anything to it.I'm not taking it any way, I just repeated back in my own words what you said. If I was wrong you could have just corrected me, not said that I was adding things. But anyways, before someone closes this thread for what ever reason; I digress. Back to the topic at hand.

[Gamest]

............................ :rolleyes:

[Big Papa]

yeah same here

[jawbones]

STOP FEEDING THE MONKIES!!!! IF YOU STOP THEY WILL GO AWAY!!! :D