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rusty
08-06-2005, 05:10 AM
what is the meaning of ROM




BB-Knls
08-06-2005, 05:40 AM
what is the meaning of ROM
Register Of Merit

A male dog becomes eligible to be placed on the R.O.M. list if he has sired four or more champions. The R.O.M. dog will be awarded one point for every champion he has sired and will receive one additional point if any of the offspring should go on to become a Grand Champion.
The rules are the same for bitches to get on the Register of Merit list, except,a bitch need only be the dam of three (3) Champions to gain a spot on the list.

madpit
08-06-2005, 09:46 AM
A male dog becomes eligible to be placed on the R.O.M. list if he has sired four or more champions. The R.O.M. dog will be awarded one point for every champion he has sired and will receive one additional point if any of the offspring should go on to become a Grand Champion.
The rules are the same for bitches to get on the Register of Merit list, except,a bitch need only be the dam of three (3) Champions to gain a spot on the list.



19 points
Crenshaws CH JEEP

14 points
Tant's GR CH YELLOW

13 points
Garner's FRISCO

11 points
STP GRCH BUCK

9 points
Long's WEIRDO

8 points
WCC Deacon
Southern Knls GRCH MAYDAY
White's TAB

7 points
Giroux BOOGER
Finley's CH BO
Lee's CH RENO
Patrick's TOMBSTONE

6 points
Allen's BUTCH
Untouchable's CH Butkus
Mountain Man's CH Homer
Patricks HOMER
W&P's LITTLE BOOTS
LG's CH LITTLE MAN
Wildside Knls LUCIFER
Ling Limey's NELIS
Crenshaws CH OTIS
Snakeman's GRCH PEDRO
Busenbarks CH RATLER
Rebel Knls CH SUNDANCE
Rolling Hill Knls CH TAZ
O. Stevens GRCH VIRGIL
Chavis CH YELLOW JOHN

5 points
R. Hall's GRCH ANDY CAPP
Dave's BLACK POISON
Boyle's CH BOLTACTION
Rebel Knls CH BUBBA
Loposay's BUSTER
Kamakazee Knls HUNTER RED
DreamTeam CH JESSE JAMES
RC/Soso Boys CH FRITZ
Hammond's RUFUS
Mason's SMILEY
Otter's CH TONKA BEAR
Bristol's CH THOR
O. Steven's TROLL
Rebels Knls CH TURTLE
Adam's GRCH ZEBO

4 points
Stinson/Glover GRCH ART
Smith & Walton GRCH Badger
Coy's GRCH BANJO
INDIAN BOLIO
Giroux GRCH CARLO
Holland GRCH CHEROK CHIEF
Garner's CHINAMAN
Giroux CH GUNNER
Goner's GARBALDI
O.Steven's CH HOMER
Phils Ch LITTLE GEORGE
Mayfields NIGGER
Cherokee Knls OILER JR
Larson's RED ED
Hardcore Knls REDMAN
Smith & Williams REUBEN
Mayfields SNAKE
Woods SNOOTY
Carolina Knls CH TERMITE
Mister K'S TEX

3 points
Smith/Walton CH BAD BILLY
Patricks BULLYBOY BOD
Harris ELI III
Thibodeaux EMILE
R. Sorrells GATORSON
Randy's GONNER
Norrod's IRON SPIKE
McCollums JESSIE JR
Redb's REDDOG
B. Sorrells RED JERRY
Hargrove's SPANKY
Matlock's TRUCK

FEMALES
7 points
JC Shaw CH Honeybunch

5 points
StoneCity AWESOME BABY
Road Warriors BOOGER
Boyle's LIMITED EDITION
B Line LITTLE BITS
LG's MISS KIM

4 points
Byrd's ANGIE B
WCC ASSASSINATOR
Lewis CH CATFISH
Boyles DIRTY MARY
Hollingsworth DOLLY
Wright's JILL
Boyles LADY UNDERTAKER
DreamTeam CH LITTLE BIT
McCollums LYDA
Undertaker Knls MS LEAKY
O.Steven's RAMONA
King Limey's TUG

3 points
TKO Combine's AUTUMS
Can Am Boys CH BECKY
HardCore Knls BREAKER
Mister K's BUP
Losco's COLLEEN
Man's CRAZY TIPPI
Untouchable's DAISY MAE
BulldogHeaven's GERALDINE
Lee's HANNAH
Duprel's JILL
Yankee Boys LUCI
Ozarks Jim's LUCY
Havannah Boys MAGGIE
Fitch's MEAN JOLENE
Hackman's MISS CHAMP
Hardcore Knls PEPSI
I.Jerry's MS POOLHALL RED
Patrick's RED BABY
Hollingsworth RED LADY
Barbwire Knls ROXY
Giroux RED PINKY
Rolling Hills SAPELO
Tomsic's SPIDER
Boyles TEA CUP

ChAnimal
08-07-2005, 08:12 PM
ROM used to be a way the SDJ rated a dogs producing ability, and since the SDJ has stopped it will be hard to find real rom dogs now.

Bubba
08-08-2005, 06:44 AM
ROM isn't a good measurement of how a dog is producing anyhow, breed a dog enough times, its sure to make the list. Many of those dogs on that list, have been bred 100s of times.
BB

RIVES PITS
08-08-2005, 08:43 AM
This Is True!

Aurora
08-08-2005, 09:04 AM
A prime example is Norrod's Iron Spike . He was only bred to 6 bitches

Emma
08-29-2005, 05:57 PM
And what's the difference between Champion and Grand Champion ?

CB
08-29-2005, 06:02 PM
I think jeep was bred the most out of all of them. From what i heard is that the owners of jeep would back jeep up to any bitch if people had the money.

ducho13
08-29-2005, 06:45 PM
Back in the days when it was legal, a champion was a dog who won three contracted matches while a grand champion was one that won five.

RollinRuger
08-29-2005, 10:53 PM
A male dog becomes eligible to be placed on the R.O.M. list if he has sired four or more champions. The R.O.M. dog will be awarded one point for every champion he has sired and will receive one additional point if any of the offspring should go on to become a Grand Champion.
The rules are the same for bitches to get on the Register of Merit list, except,a bitch need only be the dam of three (3) Champions to gain a spot on the list.



19 points
Crenshaws CH JEEP

14 points
Tant's GR CH YELLOW

13 points
Garner's FRISCO

11 points
STP GRCH BUCK

9 points
Long's WEIRDO

8 points
WCC Deacon
Southern Knls GRCH MAYDAY
White's TAB

7 points
Giroux BOOGER
Finley's CH BO
Lee's CH RENO
Patrick's TOMBSTONE

6 points
Allen's BUTCH
Untouchable's CH Butkus
Mountain Man's CH Homer
Patricks HOMER
W&P's LITTLE BOOTS
LG's CH LITTLE MAN
Wildside Knls LUCIFER
Ling Limey's NELIS
Crenshaws CH OTIS
Snakeman's GRCH PEDRO
Busenbarks CH RATLER
Rebel Knls CH SUNDANCE
Rolling Hill Knls CH TAZ
O. Stevens GRCH VIRGIL
Chavis CH YELLOW JOHN

5 points
R. Hall's GRCH ANDY CAPP
Dave's BLACK POISON
Boyle's CH BOLTACTION
Rebel Knls CH BUBBA
Loposay's BUSTER
Kamakazee Knls HUNTER RED
DreamTeam CH JESSE JAMES
RC/Soso Boys CH FRITZ
Hammond's RUFUS
Mason's SMILEY
Otter's CH TONKA BEAR
Bristol's CH THOR
O. Steven's TROLL
Rebels Knls CH TURTLE
Adam's GRCH ZEBO

4 points
Stinson/Glover GRCH ART
Smith & Walton GRCH Badger
Coy's GRCH BANJO
INDIAN BOLIO
Giroux GRCH CARLO
Holland GRCH CHEROK CHIEF
Garner's CHINAMAN
Giroux CH GUNNER
Goner's GARBALDI
O.Steven's CH HOMER
Phils Ch LITTLE GEORGE
Mayfields NIGGER
Cherokee Knls OILER JR
Larson's RED ED
Hardcore Knls REDMAN
Smith & Williams REUBEN
Mayfields SNAKE
Woods SNOOTY
Carolina Knls CH TERMITE
Mister K'S TEX

3 points
Smith/Walton CH BAD BILLY
Patricks BULLYBOY BOD
Harris ELI III
Thibodeaux EMILE
R. Sorrells GATORSON
Randy's GONNER
Norrod's IRON SPIKE
McCollums JESSIE JR
Redb's REDDOG
B. Sorrells RED JERRY
Hargrove's SPANKY
Matlock's TRUCK

bbz's Red Ace

FEMALES
7 points
JC Shaw CH Honeybunch

5 points
StoneCity AWESOME BABY
Road Warriors BOOGER
Boyle's LIMITED EDITION
B Line LITTLE BITS
LG's MISS KIM

4 points
Byrd's ANGIE B
WCC ASSASSINATOR
Lewis CH CATFISH
Boyles DIRTY MARY
Hollingsworth DOLLY
Wright's JILL
Boyles LADY UNDERTAKER
DreamTeam CH LITTLE BIT
McCollums LYDA
Undertaker Knls MS LEAKY
O.Steven's RAMONA
King Limey's TUG

3 points
TKO Combine's AUTUMS
Can Am Boys CH BECKY
HardCore Knls BREAKER
Mister K's BUP
Losco's COLLEEN
Man's CRAZY TIPPI
Untouchable's DAISY MAE
BulldogHeaven's GERALDINE
Lee's HANNAH
Duprel's JILL
Yankee Boys LUCI
Ozarks Jim's LUCY
Havannah Boys MAGGIE
Fitch's MEAN JOLENE
Hackman's MISS CHAMP
Hardcore Knls PEPSI
I.Jerry's MS POOLHALL RED
Patrick's RED BABY
Hollingsworth RED LADY
Barbwire Knls ROXY
Giroux RED PINKY
Rolling Hills SAPELO
Tomsic's SPIDER
Boyles TEA CUP
....................................

swosprey
09-26-2005, 08:02 AM
Is it possible to find any true Ch. or Gr. Ch. today? With the laws on the bulldog community, plus with the addition of shady people in the breeding industry, finding a true Ch. pr Gr. Ch. would be tough. Any one can float rumors about a dog over the internet, create a false pedigree, and sell the pups for a lot of money. I am always a little leary about hyped up dogs, because there is no way to check the facts. Buying a game bred pup is a crap shoot as far as I can tell, JMO.

Rocky H. Balboa
09-28-2005, 12:11 PM
While it is true that excessive breeding almost assures you a spot in the ROM list, IMO, it should be better to quantify a dog's ability to offspring champions (make it into the ROM list) by a champion to offspring analysis. Thus, if a dog offspring 5 champions but had 100 offspring, its net accomplishment would be 5% of offspring became champions.

If we used this formula religiously, we will not only have a clearer perspective of which dogs were/are better producers but also avoid the reproduction in masse we know happens today.

B
09-28-2005, 12:28 PM
That wouldn't work at all because so many of these dogs had offspring that were just bred instead of worked. When someone knows a dog is putting the same thing into his offspring they usually buy a pup and preach about the papers and then start breeding the dog. If everyone that bought a dog off these actually worked the dog then you might be able to use your method. Quite simply your method is far too idealistic to work in these dogs.

Regards,

B

B
09-28-2005, 12:30 PM
Is it possible to find any true Ch. or Gr. Ch. today? With the laws on the bulldog community, plus with the addition of shady people in the breeding industry, finding a true Ch. pr Gr. Ch. would be tough. Any one can float rumors about a dog over the internet, create a false pedigree, and sell the pups for a lot of money. I am always a little leary about hyped up dogs, because there is no way to check the facts. Buying a game bred pup is a crap shoot as far as I can tell, JMO.
Buy from honest people with honest dogs. Don't buy off of an internet dogger. It can be hard to track down good animals because most with them aren't going to be peddling to the public but with the right names and referrals you can often times buy a very well bred dog off of working lines.

Regards,

B

Rocky H. Balboa
09-28-2005, 12:40 PM
My point is that if breeders knew this formula was used to credit an individual dog, they will limit breeding to females (and their owners) who will work the offspring dogs for the development of the sport. This will reduce the idea of titles by numbers (of offsprings). The point of breeding is to reproduce and improve the breed not to have couch potatoes. As you know, a dog bred for a specific sport should be developed to its fullest potential within that sport. Thus, pups would only be handed, farmed out, or sold to those serious about developing for the purpose of the breed's sport.

That wouldn't work at all because so many of these dogs had offspring that were just bred instead of worked. When someone knows a dog is putting the same thing into his offspring they usually buy a pup and preach about the papers and then start breeding the dog. If everyone that bought a dog off these actually worked the dog then you might be able to use your method. Quite simply your method is far too idealistic to work in these dogs.

Regards,

B

B
09-28-2005, 12:44 PM
LOL, whatever you say man... ROM doesn't mean crap nowadays. There are no certified CH or GR CH. It is illegal to fight dogs. People just continue to use these tags to toss on their dogs. I bet 50%+ that use these terms don't know what they mean or have a dog even worthy of the title. My point still stands that you are being far too idealistic.

B

Rocky H. Balboa
09-28-2005, 01:17 PM
Yes, I am the first to admit being an idealist. Idealists built societies.

I too believe all these titles and ped papers are worthless today. Without a centralized place where things can be recorded, verified, etc., such titles will become extinct. This is why the net, if correctly used, may become a means to record. (here I go being Idealistic again).

LOL, whatever you say man... ROM doesn't mean crap nowadays. There are no certified CH or GR CH. It is illegal to fight dogs. People just continue to use these tags to toss on their dogs. I bet 50%+ that use these terms don't know what they mean or have a dog even worthy of the title. My point still stands that you are being far too idealistic.

B

440rider
09-29-2005, 10:14 AM
Buy from honest people with honest dogs. Don't buy off of an internet dogger. It can be hard to track down good animals because most with them aren't going to be peddling to the public but with the right names and referrals you can often times buy a very well bred dog off of working lines.

Very true and great advice! Whatever blood you want go to the source of it or get referrals from the source, buy a pup from someone who knows their dogs and what their dogs are putting on the ground. To me a pup off a titled dog is no better than a pup off a well bred dog from an honest breeder. Depends on who you talk to and what you are looking for.

zattara
09-06-2006, 05:50 AM
19 points
Crenshaws CH JEEP

14 points
Tant's GR CH YELLOW

13 points
Garner's FRISCO

11 points
STP GRCH BUCK

9 points
Long's WEIRDO

8 points
WCC Deacon
Southern Knls GRCH MAYDAY
White's TAB

7 points
Giroux BOOGER
Finley's CH BO
Lee's CH RENO
Patrick's TOMBSTONE

6 points
Allen's BUTCH
Untouchable's CH Butkus
Mountain Man's CH Homer
Patricks HOMER
W&P's LITTLE BOOTS
LG's CH LITTLE MAN
Wildside Knls LUCIFER
Ling Limey's NELIS
Crenshaws CH OTIS
Snakeman's GRCH PEDRO
Busenbarks CH RATLER
Rebel Knls CH SUNDANCE
Rolling Hill Knls CH TAZ
O. Stevens GRCH VIRGIL
Chavis CH YELLOW JOHN

5 points
R. Hall's GRCH ANDY CAPP
Dave's BLACK POISON
Boyle's CH BOLTACTION
Rebel Knls CH BUBBA
Loposay's BUSTER
Kamakazee Knls HUNTER RED
DreamTeam CH JESSE JAMES
RC/Soso Boys CH FRITZ
Hammond's RUFUS
Mason's SMILEY
Otter's CH TONKA BEAR
Bristol's CH THOR
O. Steven's TROLL
Rebels Knls CH TURTLE
Adam's GRCH ZEBO

4 points
Stinson/Glover GRCH ART
Smith & Walton GRCH Badger
Coy's GRCH BANJO
INDIAN BOLIO
Giroux GRCH CARLO
Holland GRCH CHEROK CHIEF
Garner's CHINAMAN
Giroux CH GUNNER
Goner's GARBALDI
O.Steven's CH HOMER
Phils Ch LITTLE GEORGE
Mayfields NIGGER
Cherokee Knls OILER JR
Larson's RED ED
Hardcore Knls REDMAN
Smith & Williams REUBEN
Mayfields SNAKE
Woods SNOOTY
Carolina Knls CH TERMITE
Mister K'S TEX

3 points
Smith/Walton CH BAD BILLY
Patricks BULLYBOY BOD
Harris ELI III
Thibodeaux EMILE
R. Sorrells GATORSON
Randy's GONNER
Norrod's IRON SPIKE
McCollums JESSIE JR
Redb's REDDOG
B. Sorrells RED JERRY
Hargrove's SPANKY
Matlock's TRUCK

FEMALES
7 points
JC Shaw CH Honeybunch

5 points
StoneCity AWESOME BABY
Road Warriors BOOGER
Boyle's LIMITED EDITION
B Line LITTLE BITS
LG's MISS KIM

4 points
Byrd's ANGIE B
WCC ASSASSINATOR
Lewis CH CATFISH
Boyles DIRTY MARY
Hollingsworth DOLLY
Wright's JILL
Boyles LADY UNDERTAKER
DreamTeam CH LITTLE BIT
McCollums LYDA
Undertaker Knls MS LEAKY
O.Steven's RAMONA
King Limey's TUG

3 points
TKO Combine's AUTUMS
Can Am Boys CH BECKY
HardCore Knls BREAKER
Mister K's BUP
Losco's COLLEEN
Man's CRAZY TIPPI
Untouchable's DAISY MAE
BulldogHeaven's GERALDINE
Lee's HANNAH
Duprel's JILL
Yankee Boys LUCI
Ozarks Jim's LUCY
Havannah Boys MAGGIE
Fitch's MEAN JOLENE
Hackman's MISS CHAMP
Hardcore Knls PEPSI
I.Jerry's MS POOLHALL RED
Patrick's RED BABY
Hollingsworth RED LADY
Barbwire Knls ROXY
Giroux RED PINKY
Rolling Hills SAPELO
Tomsic's SPIDER
Boyles TEA CUP

radonjic' s jumbo rom?
bijeljina boy's lola rom?

realonebulldog
09-07-2006, 11:09 AM
A prime example is Norrod's Iron Spike . He was only bred to 6 bitches I read that with John Wayne....you know that he loved to dance in woman clothes.....? Or is that not true?

blackjackjr_9
11-15-2006, 06:49 AM
LOL, whatever you say man... ROM doesn't mean crap nowadays. There are no certified CH or GR CH. It is illegal to fight dogs. People just continue to use these tags to toss on their dogs. I bet 50%+ that use these terms don't know what they mean or have a dog even worthy of the title. My point still stands that you are being far too idealistic.

B this is not true at all. In Balkan countries there are still trusted dogmen who are still active in this business and game. All matches are recorded. I still know a lot of Ch and Gr Ch in Europe.

PrNc
11-15-2006, 11:38 AM
There's missing dogs on that list, Gr Ch Barracuda for example!
and the 3 points means 3 ch/gr ch, so no need to produce 4 or more ch/gr ch right? it's 3

RedNoseGurl
11-21-2006, 03:02 PM
What does POR and 1xw and all that meen, im tryingt o find out but the search engines arent liking it :(

Ch.Hog05
11-21-2006, 04:04 PM
What does POR and 1xw and all that meen, im tryingt o find out but the search engines arent liking it :(
1xw means one time winner, and so on.

POR means Produce of Record.