my 4th loss and why i'am here

[tahamonie]

I've had my last to rott's stolden, i figured they were raised to be too friendly, they were the kind of dogs that looked more entemidating than they actually were, as a resault they were either shoot by deer hunters or taken.
I decided to go with a breed i was more formilour with and that had a bit more additude.anyway my luck has continued to be nothing less than bad. I am 100% possitive of the fact my last 2 pit pup's were poisoned the last female died saturday, 1 yr almost to the day the last passed away.she could have been saved if the vets who were supposed to be on 24 hr call just would have taken the time to return my call befor sunday after noon, instead i had to watch my pup die what had to be a auful way to go. todays monday and still not so much as a call from the vet's office at this piont its for the best believe me ! i just hope someday someone or something they care about suffer's a likewise fate. :mad:
the reason i'am here is to share in my time for a breed i'am in love with because i've recieved so much from my pit's in the past, and i'm hoping to find someone whos got a female pup so i can begin breeding which was my plan of 2 yrs ago, but for now since i've lost my last 2 pup's to a basturd who has fear and hate in his heart, i'll have to take it slow as the loss of my last to female's have caused me a slite monatary set back.

[GD2]

Im Sorry To Hear This But U Should Call The Vet Place And Let Them No What There Not Returning A Phone Call Has Done And Tell Other People.

[whiteyransom]

definately call the place and let them know that they may have been able to save your dog/dogs. and warn anybody else you know with pets of the place. hate to hear about your dogs....

[PADogman]

Sorry to hear of your loss.I'm sure they were good dogs.

[nappydawg]

always sad to hear of a loss

[misterdogman]

I've had my last to rott's stolden, i figured they were raised to be too friendly, they were the kind of dogs that looked more entemidating than they actually were, as a resault they were either shoot by deer hunters or taken.
I decided to go with a breed i was more formilour with and that had a bit more additude.anyway my luck has continued to be nothing less than bad. I am 100% possitive of the fact my last 2 pit pup's were poisoned the last female died saturday, 1 yr almost to the day the last passed away.she could have been saved if the vets who were supposed to be on 24 hr call just would have taken the time to return my call befor sunday after noon, instead i had to watch my pup die what had to be a auful way to go. todays monday and still not so much as a call from the vet's office at this piont its for the best believe me ! i just hope someday someone or something they care about suffer's a likewise fate. :mad:
the reason i'am here is to share in my time for a breed i'am in love with because i've recieved so much from my pit's in the past, and i'm hoping to find someone whos got a female pup so i can begin breeding which was my plan of 2 yrs ago, but for now since i've lost my last 2 pup's to a basturd who has fear and hate in his heart, i'll have to take it slow as the loss of my last to female's have caused me a slite monatary set back.Bro, your here for another reason too, because I guarantee when youve had a bad situation or need advice or even want to unravel theres no better place than here...we all bite each other once in a while and usually go for the tongue since were all bull headed shit talkers, but I swear this is a family of doggers, some into gamedogs some into show and everything else inbetween, but in the long run we are a force of love for the APBT and regardless of what one thinks about the other persons interests and ways with their they dogs we remain that way... my point is that that we all here for a reason and you just found it, we all need each other and seek that input from people like us and cant find it elsewhere. Acceptance is the other reason and once you let this sites members toughen up your skin a little for some of the heated debates youll see were all still back the next day and here for that same reason..Welcome to the site and nice to meet you. I sincerely hope you find your path with our idolized breed...Mister

[Marty]

First of all Welcome to the site and please enjoy your stay, as Mr has said you came to the right place, anything you want to know about the breed is here, just research what you are looking for. :)
Hope we can be of help :)

[PitbullLover]

So Sorry Taha

[jankab]

Welcome Taha... I am sorry to hear of your loss...

[bam-bam's mom]

terribly sorry for your loss



Just this side of Heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge.

When an animal dies that has been especially close to someone here, that pet goes to Rainbow Bridge. There are meadows and hills for all of our special friends so they can run and play together. There is plenty of food and water and sunshine, and our friends are warm and comfortable. All the animals who had been ill and old are restored to health and vigor; those who were hurt or maimed are made whole and strong again, just as we remember them in our dreams of days and times gone by.

The animals are happy and content, except for one small thing: they miss someone very special to them; who had to be left behind.

They all run and play together, but the day comes when one suddenly stops and looks into the distance. The bright eyes are intent; the eager body quivers. Suddenly he begins to break away from the group, flying over the green grass, his legs carrying him faster and faster. YOU have been spotted, and when you and your special friend finally meet, you cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again. The happy kisses rain upon your face; your hands again caress the beloved head, and you look once more into the trusting eyes of your pet, so long gone from your life but never absent from your heart.

Then you cross Rainbow Bridge together......."
(~Anonymous)

[tahamonie]

Thank You all for your words of welcome and condolence. You know i called this Vet's Office and had words, i explained how i call both of there #'s provided for emergency care many times until giving up and calling for others to help and how i ran into the same problem not getting anyone to answer the damn phone, one number i called that was listed in the book was no longer in service.
After half the morning on the phone i decided to call back our vet and leave a message and you know here it was wednesday and i hadnt heard a word about how's your pet ? did you find help for you animal ? NOTHING not a single word as of yet and here we are a week later. anyway when i spoke to the lady at my vets office, and informed her of my intention to seek monotary compensation she exclaimed "well did you try so and so " YES i did i tried very one with in a 50 mile radius ! and couldnt get anyone to answer a phone. then she says "well you may want to remember that little fact if you plan on suing us " at that point i lost it :mad: I said "LOOK YOUR OUR PRIMARY HEALTH CARE PROVIDER " and besides the others arent advertising 24 hr emergency care. that quieted her up some. do you want the Doctor to call you and talk to you later today, not even a good idea as pissed as i was.
All things concidered do any of you think i've got a case ?

[rocksteady]

Its hard to say ...it will all depend on how the law regulates that sort of thing..i would assume that if you advertise 24hr emergency care you should be giving it.. your best bet is to talk with a lawyer ... did you record all the times you tried to call the vets? How about all the other vets (this would be your proof ..without it, it would be your word against thiers..)

It never hurts to try ,, and besides, maybe by you speaking up, you will prevent other pet owners from having to go through the same heartache..

At least call the BBB .. let them know that this place advertises 24 hr emergency vet care and that when you had an emergency, they never responded...

[tahamonie]

rocksteady the pic of your animal looks just like my lucy :( i'am here in N.D. and in a rural setting and for as many farmers with as many animal in these parts it just plain unbelievable i couldnt get ahold of a vet. would love getting in touch with the BBB but around here theres no such thing.
I've noticed a few of you are from places like IN. and Mich. well my home is Hammond , In. and i plan on going back soon to visit my oldest Daughter, i can take 1 of 2 routs to get there so if anyone in Michigan or Indiana has a female pup for sell that would be great.

[rockysteel]

Hang in there buddy .

[rockysteel]

I dont know if you got a court case or not but you should let everyone know what happened to you , tell the news paper they might do a write up about it tell all your neighbors and friends A vet is supposed to be a doctor and help the sick no matter what .Make it known .

[_Alpha_]

very sad to hear your news bro. there must have been a purpose for those, just take into account the lessons learned and move on.

[Texasbulldogs]

All things concidered do any of you think i've got a case ?
I would say NO, they are not obligated to serve you or even return your phone call. That is/would be the professional thing to do, but not something they have to do. Move on with your life and become better prepared before getting another pup. If you have neighbors that poison pets…keep Vitamin C and activated charcoal on hands at all times (should have it anyways)! Learn a little about medicine; find a new veterinary, and then when the time comes get another pet. Don’t live in the past or try to blame the veterinary for your dog’s death!

[tahamonie]

Tex : although your advise is sound in nature you presume to much . what i mean is I ,while not as educated as most Veternarians
I'am a long shot from being ignorant. you see some years ago i befriended a Veternarian who's Hospital i totally rentavated, i learned alot in the corse of the year i was there, set in on many sergeries and while some may finding it a bit shocking was even allowed to preform a few.you presume i set idley by and helplessly watched my pet die, that's not the way it went ! i gave her injections of Iron and vitamin C and forsed as mush Charcoal down her as she could handle and also tried to bring her electorlites back up all to no avail of corse.
I will move on just as i've done once or twice befor, Now again all things concidered being your more informed aside for the person who layed down the poison, if i did all i could do to save my pets live and the Vet wouldnt even so much as return a call, who's to blame then ?
Let me pose this question to ya , If your Family took you to the hospital for treatment and while in the E.R. you set until your passing away ,dont you believe your Family would find the Doctor or the Hospital responcible ? "of corse they would "and that's the same damn thing and its not all that gray of an issue in my oppion. I am blaming the Vet and i will warn people to avoid there office like the pleage as well as follow up with legal action thats my full entention, I've got too !
now please concider one last thing will ya ? I didnt come here to ruffle any's feathers nor get on the bad side of anyone, i'am honestly very much greving thats all. hope you understand.

[Marty]

Man I am very sorry about what happend, hope you get some closure to this :(

[misterdogman]

Damn Straight!

[Texasbulldogs]

“Let me pose this question to ya , If your Family took you to the hospital for treatment and while in the E.R. you set until your passing away ,dont you believe your Family would find the Doctor or the Hospital responcible ?”

Your question is a totally different scenario! Being an emergency room is fully staffed with registered nurses and doctors…the “vet” wasn’t at his facility nor was your dog lying on the operating table or in the waiting room dying, while the veterinary was standing around watching! Your veterinary just didn't return your phone call...nothing against the law about that!

[tahamonie]

I totally disagree, it's the same darn thing ! thats why they advertise 24 hr's emergency care, in so many words they're saying "we'll be there for ya".Just the same as you know to exspect your Doctor and nurses would be in your E.R.
Plain and simple the bottom line is "don't advertise what your not willing to provide". that 24 hr little statement in itself make them liable , thats just my oppion. I'll see !

[Texasbulldogs]

“I totally disagree, it's the same darn thing !”
You’re comparing apples to oranges!


“thats why they advertise 24 hr's emergency care, in so many words they're saying "we'll be there for ya".”
Wrong again a hospital is opened and staffed 24-7 where as most veterinary clinics are individually owned and operated by 1 veterinary, unless in a larger more populated city. If there is only 1 veterinary or even two…that can and will limit their availability! Plus take into account they could have all ready been on call, sick, or even on vacation. There are endless possibilities, facts are you and your animal/s, are not always going to receive priority.


“Just the same as you know to exspect your Doctor and nurses would be in your E.R.”
Again you are comparing apples to oranges. A hospital is staffed 24-7 where as 99% of veterinary clinics are not! Nor was you actually in the vet’s office waiting for service, instead you only made a “phone call”!


“Plain and simple the bottom line is "don't advertise what your not willing to provide". that 24 hr little statement in itself make them liable , thats just my oppion. I'll see !”
You absolutely correct…it’s only your opinion! I’m sure they don’t actually advertise 24 hour service, but “on call 24 hours a day”. Either way your dog is dead and no lawsuit is going to bring it back or better prepare you to prevent it from happening again! Learn from your mistakes, find another veterinary if you feel the need, and prevent it or the possibilities of it from happening again! Sorry for your loss, but trying to place blame on a veterinary is unneeded stress and pointless!

[tahamonie]

Apples and Oranges , ya thats a good metaphor but while they differ at 1st glance they share far more similarities then they do differences , likeness's that aren't considered by the average joe. they're both round in shape,they're both grown on tree's in groves, they're both fruit's they both taste good , they're both suppose to be good for you.I could go on but I fail to see what practical significance there is in doing so.
Although our opinions very on this issue, I will say your word's were not waisted and you have caused me to view things from a slightly different prospective. Thanks !

[Noname]

Let is go and hopefully you will have better luck with the next dog you get. Dont worry so much about the vet and more about finding the persons that did it.

[tahamonie]

ya da ya da ya da. did i once mention i didnt already know the idenity of the do'er of the dirty deed ? NO ! you worry about what concerns you which isnt someone who's poisoned your dog and i'll worry about settling matter's with my Vet, "nuff said".

[The Watcher]

"I will say your word's were not waisted and you have caused me to view things from a slightly different prospective. Thanks !"
good attitude ;)

[PiT_cHiK83]

i'm very sorry... i'm hoping the best for you.... for the basturd that hurt your pups "if you don't pay for it in this lifetime, you'll pay when you die" ... karma .... and r.i.p for your pups....