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stuffnitty
07-25-2005, 08:26 AM
Hello,

I have two male APBT that are having difficulty getting along. They are currently 15 months old and I am unable to walk them at the same time. If at anytime they come within sight of one another, and are leashed, they attempt to go at one another. To rectify this issue I have simply been walking them separately but am unsatisfied that this has recently become a requirement and not a choice. I see others walking their dogs with no difficulty but no one seems to be able to share any helpful information. They have both been trained and are for the most part the two most cooperative APBT's I have ever been around. If there is anyone out there with useful suggestions and/or comments I'd love to here from you.

Thanks,

BlueMarbles




Scotsman
07-25-2005, 09:08 AM
You have 2 male APBT's, that is not a problem, but expecting them to be buddies now that they are older is. As I said before you have 2 MALE APBT's, it would be the same if you had 2 females. They are just eventually not going to get along and that is how it is.

RIVES PITS
07-25-2005, 09:47 AM
well said scotsman

DryCreek
07-25-2005, 11:21 AM
All I can suggest is accept the fact that they won't walk together and walk them seperately.Also...are they housed together? You may find that their walking aggression may also turn into total unacceptance of one another. Not all Pit Bulls can be taught to "get along".Accept it and do whats best for your dogs.As they get older the problem may get worse.

devinben3
07-25-2005, 12:20 PM
Yes having 2 males or 2 females is not going to be good. you are doing the right thing by walking them seperatly..that way each one gets one on one bonding time w/you anyways...but they need to be seperated at all times. with this breed you can't expect them to get along well with other dogs..especially 2 males..doesn't matter if it's 2 brothers, it just doens't work. good luck to you..there's nothing you can do to change this..this is how these dogs were bred.

Rocky H. Balboa
07-25-2005, 01:01 PM
Well, if you look at it from a game dog perspective, you should be lucky to know they have correct temperaments. If they were Staffies, they would probably get along. Do they have direct contact in the yard/house? The better (non aggressive) scenario is that they may be establishing hierarchy. Get two real good muzzles (with a strap in the front preventing nibbling), put it on them, and let them figure it out (without the biting!). If they are only establishing pecking order, a few times (5 time at most) should do the trick. Just be sure to have someone with you (and a breaking stick) in case the muzzles were not tighten securely enough. I hope this works for you.

I am waiting for my dog to turn 7 or 8 before bringing his son (not born yet) into the house. I hope that Rocky's drive for Alpha status will have diminished by the time the pup has fully matured. Good luck.

whiteyransom
07-25-2005, 01:25 PM
rocky's human might be right, they may just be getting the dominance issue down. but even after that, they'll more than likely go at it if left alone. and especially around you. the dominant one usually tries to stay closeset.(at least that's what i've seen in pits). walk them seperate, and keep an eye on them the rest of the time. and be ready for the scuffles.

Rocky H. Balboa
07-25-2005, 01:33 PM
Yes. There is another thing you need to do if "dominance" is the issue. (after doing the muzzled thing) You should know who would have been the "dominant" one from the two. So, feed the Alpha first (while the other watches). If the other comes over and tries to eat from it, correct it. Even if the chosen "alpha" allows the other one to eat with him, do not let him. He must sit and wait his turn. Behave like this with everything and maybe (just maybe) this will help your case. Again, good luck.

Will Power
07-25-2005, 01:43 PM
You Have some hard times ahead of you, maybe think about chaining up your dogs, if possible. you might not like it but you have to think about the dogs safty. I Had two females that faught all the time. I had to give one up it, was the best thing to do. At that time i didn't have a yard.

misterdogman
07-25-2005, 01:44 PM
LMAO LOL, WTF HAHAHAHA, Just get a buddy to walk with you if you want to take them both out at the same time, or get use to walking seperately. Most likely a "hierarchy" is not the goal of their agenda. I am willing to bet they will begin clashing and soon never get along. You should have thought about that before getting 2 male APBTs and trying to make them get along to your preferences. Even if they are not gamebred they can still have the will to fight and most assuredly will ....if they feel they need to.... Accept the fact that you may need to seperate them forever.

14rock
07-25-2005, 01:46 PM
Hello,

I have two male APBT that are having difficulty getting along. They are currently 15 months old and I am unable to walk them at the same time. If at anytime they come within sight of one another, and are leashed, they attempt to go at one another. To rectify this issue I have simply been walking them separately but am unsatisfied that this has recently become a requirement and not a choice. I see others walking their dogs with no difficulty but no one seems to be able to share any helpful information. They have both been trained and are for the most part the two most cooperative APBT's I have ever been around. If there is anyone out there with useful suggestions and/or comments I'd love to here from you.

Thanks,

BlueMarbles
No matter what you do to try and correct it you need to remember this is a fighting breed and chances are they are just not going to like eachother. Sounds like they are just now "turning-on" so to speak. Walking two pitbulls at one time serves little purpose other than to look cool anyways. These dogs need you to be on your toes at all times with them, I cant see someone being able to control two determined dogs at one time. I know for a fact if I took out two pitbulls walking and they saw a dog run across the street two things would happen 1.)I'd get my shoulders ripped out or 2.) I would be getting drug across the street. One dog is a handful to walk sometimes especially if they are becoming dog-aggressive, two is usually asking for trouble. It sounds to me like you are unfamiliar with the breed, or maybe see them as petbulls. These dogs are not like other dogs, you cant expect to raise them like you would say two labs. Sounds like you need to get a breaking stick, learn how to use it, and be vigilant at all times around your dogs. "Never trust a pitbull not to fight".