Chinaman

[coyrobert]

my girl dog is supposed to be jeep,jocko,gator,nigerino-i got a guy with a chinnamen male wanting to breed when she gets old enough,would this be a good cross??,would they be short, or tall, i would like to know all the good, and all the bad

[SWAMPER]

Id Say Learn How To Spell Chinaman Then Worry Bout Breeding Her Hehehhehehehehhehehehehehe

[SFK]

There is NO good in breeding just cause she's old enough. It's all BAD!

[coyrobert]

i aint ask for u to talk shit about the spellin, i asked about the cross jackass

[coyrobert]

and by bad are you saying that i shouldnt breed her at all, i have thought about getting her fixed, if i got her fixed would it calm her down, and make her lazy?

[D.R KING]

i aint ask for u to talk shit about the spellin, i asked about the cross jackassWell Chinnamen isn't a known game line, chinaman, sometimes when people cant spell the dog's names right, its a rare mistake or their just lying about the dog bloodlines.

I know some guy who said his dog were "colleby" rofl!

[GameKid16]

i aint ask for u to talk shit about the spellin, i asked about the cross jackass
you should listen to swamper, he is a very smart man, or atleast when it comes to dogs LOL

my girl dog is supposed to be jeep,jocko,gator,nigerino-i got a guy with a chinnamen male wanting to breed when she gets old enough,would this be a good cross??,would they be short, or tall, i would like to know all the good, and all the bad
you said your dog was SUPPOSED to be this and that, well if she aint old enough to breed yet, then she aint old enough to be proven either, we have enough of these so-called REDNOSE/BLOCKHEAD/COLBY street dogs in the world as it is, that bite little kids and get all our dogs took away, so learn as much as you can before you think about increase the population, with cur dogs with no background

[tommy3]

Do you have papers on the dog or did someone just tell you that the dog is jeep,jocko,gator,nigerino? Chances are if there is no proof (as in registration papers) there is none of that blood in your dog. Hell, even if you have papers it still isn't 100%. But, word of mouth doesn't mean anything. Especially when dealing with dogs and their bloodlines.

There are too many dogs in shelters out there that are bred just because they are old enough or because someone THINKS it will produce some good pups. Please reconsider breeding any dog. There are too many in the shelters as is.

[coyrobert]

i asked to learn about it, thats why i come to this site is to learn more about the breed, not to argue about spellin, hell i dont own a CHINAMAN or did i know how to spell it correctly

[440rider]

i asked to learn about it, thats why i come to this site is to learn more about the breed, not to argue about spellin, hell i dont own a CHINAMAN or did i know how to spell it correctly
i think what swamp is saying is if you dont have the knowledge of even spelling the dogs name correctly then what knowledge do you have in breeding. BYB'S are a big problem with bulldogs. Every one wants to stick their dogs to someone elses dog down the street with out any knowledge on the other persons dog or on the outcome of the breeding. How long have you been around these dog?

[KnottyBoyNC]

Hey man just breed the damn dog...lol...but i would consider what ur breeding for. If you just want 2 have some pups just breed that bitch...lol...thats all i can say. I dunno anything about ur dog or the other guy's dog. People get so caught up in papers and all that, they forget about making a true dog. So dont ask for advice when it really doesnt make a difference..in ur case

[D.R KING]

Hey man just breed the damn dog...lol...but i would consider what ur breeding for. If you just want 2 have some pups just breed that bitch...lol...thats all i can say. I dunno anything about ur dog or the other guy's dog. People get so caught up in papers and all that, they forget about making a true dog. So dont ask for advice when it really doesnt make a difference..in ur case
your joking?

[KnottyBoyNC]

your joking?
no actually im not, let the man do what he wants. Are they your dogs?

[D.R KING]

no actually im not, let the man do what he wants. Are they your dogs?
No but, I though people were supposed to be helpful on here??? Try to give certain infomation on why to breed and why not to breed.

[KnottyBoyNC]

No but, I though people were supposed to be helpful on here??? Try to give certain infomation on why to breed and why not to breed.
yea ur right. Well he need 2 let us know more about the dogs besides from what he's heard. I've seen a lot of people claiming their dogs to be this blood and that but it just really sounds like their saying it to fit in. So i dunno

[devinben3]

Before you even consider breeding your gyp..ask yourself this..has she proven herself..not just by being pretty or a sweet dog..what makes her a good specimen of the breed. by breeding her are you going to improve the breed? or just make more pups. and if she has proven herself (weight pull and show do not count in proving themselves). has she been properly health tested? hips, eyes, elbows, cardiac, and so on? do you have good homes for the pups already? and the same goes for the male. sure you can breed any dog..but will you be helping the breed? a lot of time, money, stress will be put on you and your female..some females never act the same after having a litter. you will have to make sure you have plenty of extra money set up for health testing your female and stud, care of the pregnant female, care of pups, health on pups, cost of papers, etc...you end up spending way more than you will make on pups. but people are asking you to give us some more info on this female...do u have her pedigree, a picture, what does she do? family pet? hunt? show? pull? etc? breeding is a lot more than it's set out to be.. and about the cross..i personally havn't seen any of those dogs..but i have heard someone out of PA runs a cross similar..but that's prob just a lie..

[coyrobert]

she is an inside dog , trained well, smart,no papers, i didnt wanna start off to big, i know where the pups are going i am kepping most of them and the males owners dad lives next door and he is getting one and the males owner would get one, my sis and her husband are gonna get one, if i do i aint letting the dogs go to anyone unless i know them well

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[GameKid16]

she is an inside dog , trained well, smart,no papers, i didnt wanna start off to big, i know where the pups are going i am kepping most of them and the males owners dad lives next door and he is getting one and the males owner would get one, my sis and her husband are gonna get one, if i do i aint letting the dogs go to anyone unless i know them well

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you got about a year and a half till she ready to prove herself, if she proves her self then you can think about breedin, till then just love her

[devinben3]

How old is she in those pics? how old is she currently? like gamekid said..at least a good year and a half until she can even try to prove herself...good luck w/her though.

[KnottyBoyNC]

I dunno y most people say 1 yr and a half. I always say 2yrs, but thats what makes the AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER so wonderful, its wide possibilities and unpredictability (if thats a word) lol

[TabDogs]

shes just a baby herself! If those pics are recent...Why even think about breeding her when she probley hasnt even gotten her adult teeth in yet?? lol What was your purpose in getting her? family pet? show? just to breed?(I hope not)...Just let her be a pup..play with her socialize her and love her..

[miakoda]

if i got her fixed would it calm her down
In some cases, it can, but I wouldn't count on it. 1 of my best dogs was spayed due to an emergency (pyometra) at the age of 2. She's as wild & crazy as ever! I also have some other spayed/neutered dogs (rescue apbts & Wrigley) & there is not one who is even slightly fat nor lazy. To me, there is nothing wrong in working a spayed/neutered dog. Hell, look at how many famous racehourses with awesome wins were/are geldings (neutered in horsey terms)!

If you're unsure about your dogs history, I would opt for spaying her. Not b/c she's "worthless", but because it's your chance to show you are responsible & care for the future of the breed. If you are eventually interested in breeding, I'd stick around here & read & ask questions, buy some good books & read up as much as you can (ebay is an awesome source for books ;) ), & if possible, find someone in your area that pulls with or hunts his dogs and see if they will help you out in your quest for knowledge. STAY AWAY from backyard breeders (people who breed to make money, b/c their dogs look nice, b/c they want 1 puppy, b/c they think it's cool, or b/c they can)! They are ruining the breed faster than we can save it & will only to more damage to the breed, your dog, & you.

I am glad you came here to learn. So did I. And I have learned a lot! So stick around & just understand that most of us are just so passionate about the breed & are struggling to keep the dog true & in a positive light, so sometimes things come across as "mean" or "harsh". Unfortunately, for many, being blunt is just the best way to get the point across.

[rocksteady]

Actually alot of hunters prefer a spayed or neutered dog for hunting with.. They dont go into heat at the wrong time, the males (depending on age neutered) generally arent as attracked to females.. less likey to run off, etc

[CB]

I will say that you do have a pretty girl there. I got bashed my first time here and now i have learned a crap load of stuff about the breed so just stick around. Dont think the people on here are d!cks there good people just gotta stay around.

[SWAMPER]

i think what swamp is saying is if you dont have the knowledge of even spelling the dogs name correctly then what knowledge do you have in breeding. BYB'S are a big problem with bulldogs. Every one wants to stick their dogs to someone elses dog down the street with out any knowledge on the other persons dog or on the outcome of the breeding. How long have you been around these dog?EXACTLY WHAT I MEANT...........THANKS 440

[GameKid16]

I will say that you do have a pretty girl there. I got bashed my first time here and now i have learned a crap load of stuff about the breed so just stick around. Dont think the people on here are d!cks there good people just gotta stay around.
man did I ever more get bashed, when I first started, to the point I almost quite this site. but I stuck around and now my knowledge on gamedogs is damn good!!

[CB]

man did I ever more get bashed, when I first started, to the point I almost quite this site. but I stuck around and now my knowledge on gamedogs is damn good!!Yeah dude i got bashed so bad i just felt like crap, but then people were actually helping me and i learned alot on the site so i stayed at the site and its all been uphill from then LoL. But coyrobert what part of NC you from i could always help you with little things that i know if your close and i know there is alot of people here from NC that im sure will be willing to help you out with your dog. Just stick around these people on here have no intention to bash on you just want people that have teh breed to learn about the dog. And thats just what can do if you stick around.

[rockysteel]

Coyrobert, if you like your female and want some pups from her then breed her to a dog that you like and dont worry about whether she is chinaman or not , just try breeding for the betterment of the breed, as far as bloodlines go dont believe everything that you read or hear and take it with a grain of salt if you know what i mean . If you like what you see in a dog then thats good for you .Look for a male that will add to your female.Ive always tried to breed like to like and was never concerned with so called blood lines, they all got some good dogs in them and they all got some bad dogs in them too , why do you think there are so many , just because one has a champ dosent mean that you will get a champ from it , its all risky just hope for the best.Hope this will help you some and think first before you do any breeding make sure thats what you wanna do raising a litter of pups is work and sometimes dissapointing but can also be very rewarding. Good luck

[misterdogman]

Id Say Learn How To Spell Chinaman Then Worry Bout Breeding Her HehehhehehehehheheheheheheLMAO. HAHAHAHA.

[misterdogman]

your joking?OH my friggin' God. Don't breed the dog ever. For any reason. Because we all know the reason you choose won't be the one "we" choose before we breed. Gameness. So just get her fixed and like quickly before she gets too old and you breed her anyway out of temptation for absolutely no good reason at all. Man, a few days away usually makes the heart grow fonder but I came back to a bunch of BYB's spreadin' their knowledge. What the Fawk happened?

[GyrlwitbigPITS]

Hello all..what do you mean by "proven" if show/working titles dont count?Just wondering before I breed my dogs

[twiztidpitz]

a proven dog is one that has been bred before

[whiteyransom]

I Wouldn't Breed Just To Make Some Mony. There's Too Many Pits That End Up In Rescuses Because Folks Think They'll Be Able To Get Rid Of Thier Real Fast-like. And Then People Get Stuck With Pups They Didn't Want Or Expect To Have. I've Heard That If It Doesn't Change The Female At All It Makes Them More Hyper. That's What My Vet Said. But I Don't Know From Experience

[IRISH]

a proven dog is one that has been bred before
all i can say is WTF i hope you dont breed either lol

[whiteyransom]

So Your Pro-byb? That's F/u

[misterdogman]

a proven dog is one that has been bred beforeWOW!!! THERES LOTS OF PROVEN DOGS OUT THERE THEN. LMAO... PROVEN FOR WHAT? BREEDING "PROVES" NOTHING EXCEPT THAT THE FEMALE IS BEING RECEPTIVE TO SPERM AND THE MALE IS ABLE TO EJACULATE VIABLE SPERM. THATS ALL BREEDING 2 DOGS "PROVES". A DOG SHOULD BE "PROVEN" BEFORE ITS BRED!

[whiteyransom]

Lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SWAMPER]

Bingo..................................

[TabDogs]

All I can say is LMAO...Where did you hear that a proven dog was one that has been bred before?

[twiztidpitz]

No I'm not for the back yard breeders, I'm not even sure what proven is because I haven't heard exactly what it is, I've just heard of people saying thier dog was a proven breeder so thats what I thought it might be. It's real nice what people have to say to you when your wrong, they don't give any slack or try to help the people who are new at raising the Pit Bull and don't know much about the "terms". I've only had pitbulls for about 2 years now and alot of this is new to me and others on this site.

[misterdogman]

No I'm not for the back yard breeders, I'm not even sure what proven is because I haven't heard exactly what it is, I've just heard of people saying thier dog was a proven breeder so thats what I thought it might be. It's real nice what people have to say to you when your wrong, they don't give any slack or try to help the people who are new at raising the Pit Bull and don't know much about the "terms". I've only had pitbulls for about 2 years now and alot of this is new to me and others on this site.Ok if your apt to admit you dont know a lot of terms etc them maybe you dont know a lot about breeding and shouldnt be dabbling in areas you dont know, thats like saying things in spanish you cant translate, you might be thinking your asking that mexican where the bus stop is but your really asking if his mom is a bus, it happens a lot, so maybe education is best before you breed or talk of the subject, since your speaking a foreign language. Myself and everyone here will allow PMs from you or reply to posts if you have questions about what a dog should do before bred. Sorry to make you the brunt of all likely hood but I do want to answer all your questions, your right... newbies need educated and were here for that. So asking on your behalf before replying helps too, so next time anyone can help you.

[Scotsman]

RWBKennels you should probably drop the "kennel" part until you learn more about the breed. I know that I learned a lot about the breed in my first year. Not trying to knock yah, just a suggestion.