Ways to Strengthen the Mouth

[Rocky H. Balboa]

Could you experts in the many ways to exercise a dog tell me all the exercises to make a mouth stronger? I read on one of the other threads about stringpoles and its dangers. Are there others? I am currently only using the Kong products but obviously that will not do the trick. Please help.

[SWAMPER]

Could you experts in the many ways to exercise a dog tell me all the exercises to make a mouth stronger? I read on one of the other threads about stringpoles and its dangers. Are there others? I am currently only using the Kong products but obviously that will not do the trick. Please help.
HERES A FUN WAY TO LET THEM WORK THE MOUTH A LIL

[devinben3]

Try a horizontal springpole tied eye level w/the dog from a tree trunk/post/etc. You then don't have to worry about the jumping and falling and all that good stuff. Basic tug o war helps too! Good luck!

[SFK]

Swamper's got it right. Pretend your a teenager and tug, tug, tug!:D

[SLICK WILLIE]

HERES A FUN WAY TO LET THEM WORK THE MOUTH A LILYou can build the power in the dogs mouth a bit but dogs know how to use their mouth or they don't! some dogs do not have power like other dogs in this area but an old man told me this! If you think your dog don't have mouth let him bite you one time and you'll have respect for it's mouth. Chew on things that give a little and pull and tug will help some but peak at some point.

[Rocky H. Balboa]

... an old man told me this! If you think your dog don't have mouth let him bite you one time and you'll have respect for it's mouth....
That's funny. I guess I would. But do all of these things make it a harder mouth or just flexible? Should I be concern how he holds the rope (front teeth or mollars?) My dog seems to hold things like ropes with his front teeth not his back teeth. Should I be adjusting this?

I have seen dogs holding on tree branches and walking with them some look pretty heavy. My dog will not carry things in its mouth. Does this mean he has a weak mouth? How do you determine a weak mouth from a strong one?

[Rocky H. Balboa]

HERES A FUN WAY TO LET THEM WORK THE MOUTH A LIL
How do you get two dogs that want to get at each other to forget about the dog in front of him and concentrate on grabbing and tugging?

[Rocky H. Balboa]

Try a horizontal springpole tied eye level w/the dog from a tree trunk/post/etc. You then don't have to worry about the jumping and falling and all that good stuff. Basic tug o war helps too! Good luck!
If this is a new thing for a dog, how do you teach or make him like it? How do you teach the dog to do it on its own without human observation?

[GameKid16]

Does this mean he has a weak mouth?
he is probablly able to carry thing in his mouth, he just choice not to.. I got a bitch out back that I have seen break turtle shells and chew covers of basball, but she will not carry anything bigger than a football in her mouth even though she is able two...

[KnottyBoyNC]

Tugging is not really good for improving mouth...well i cant say that but it depends on what their tugging with. We use ATV (4wheeler) tires. These tires are tough and they teach the dog to bite harder. when you give a dog a rag he doesnt have to bite hard to get a good hold on it. Give him a tire, and at first he will try to bite the same way he bites a rag and when he sees he cant hold as good, he will bite harder.

[KnottyBoyNC]

examples from Knotty Boy's Boe

[SFK]

Actually the smaller the item to be bit the more mouth a dog uses. It's harder to hold onto a small piece of hide, or my favorite a piece of firehose than to chew on tires or large rubber toys. Also the small baits slip out of their incisors & teach the dog to get a deep bite using the rear teeth.

[crossfire]

dont you think all of the other stuff presents a hazard to the dog? if he eats it? i understand sticks and stuff end up in chain spots but that is alot of just flat out trash your dog walks on all day. not saying my yard is perfect but you will not see stuff like that in the animals chain areas. just the occasional limb or plants they manage to snag some how

[Rocky H. Balboa]

Actually the smaller the item to be bit the more mouth a dog uses. It's harder to hold onto a small piece of hide, or my favorite a piece of firehose than to chew on tires or large rubber toys. Also the small baits slip out of their incisors & teach the dog to get a deep bite using the rear teeth.
What do you recommend I buy for his mouth then? He does not like the rubbery taste some rubber toys have. It does taste nasty (I tried it myself).

[Jenn]

What do you recommend I buy for his mouth then? He does not like the rubbery taste some rubber toys have. It does taste nasty (I tried it myself).
LOL!! That's a first ;) Thanks for the laugh

[KnottyBoyNC]

dont you think all of the other stuff presents a hazard to the dog? if he eats it? i understand sticks and stuff end up in chain spots but that is alot of just flat out trash your dog walks on all dayYea i agree but it is almost IMPOSSIBLE 2 get that stuff out. He has been off that chain twice since he was 7 months. He will bite anything you touch, thats y i havent moved that stuff out. He even bites the chain he's on if i try to get it off him. Last time it took 3 of us to take him off the chain. and one guy definitely wont help me again. All those shirts and stuff are tangled tightly in that chain. If someone holds the chain while im tryna get them out he trys to bite them. If I could i would but i can't....i've tried all i know

[KnottyBoyNC]

Actually the smaller the item to be bit the more mouth a dog uses. It's harder to hold onto a small piece of hide, or my favorite a piece of firehose than to chew on tires or large rubber toys. Also the small baits slip out of their incisors & teach the dog to get a deep bite using the rear teeth.
I definitely dont agree with that. A mouth is more than those incisors. Ask the Mountain Man that!!!!1

[crossfire]

will he try to bite you when you touch the stuff? or bite the object being touched? if he is aiming at you give him a dirt nap and start fresh and be sure to socialize the dog more and take him off the chain more offten. if nothing else to what it takes to take him off one more time and clean it up and then just keep from putting other things in his spot besides his tire.

[nappydawg]

i ain't the only one who tries the toys out first i have to though lexus won't play or eat anything unless i eat/play it or at least pretend to eat/play it

[TabDogs]

swamper i do the same "tug a war with the hose" as you do..LOL they have a blast! I agree that the debri in the dogs area can cause harm to the dog...such as a blockage or choking hazard...if the dogs tries to bite you why do you still feed it ??

[PADogman]

An old timer told me once a good way to build mouth is to get the dog a beef bone and give it to him once every other day for 15 minutes.You'll be suprised how much bone he can whittle off it in that period of time.

[miakoda]

HERES A FUN WAY TO LET THEM WORK THE MOUTH A LIL

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I just love this pic! I need to try this with my dogs!

[KnottyBoyNC]

swamper i do the same "tug a war with the hose" as you do..LOL they have a blast! I agree that the debri in the dogs area can cause harm to the dog...such as a blockage or choking hazard...if the dogs tries to bite you why do you still feed it ??
lol, c'mon, the dog doesnt try 2 bite me, but he will bite anyone else. he trys to bite anything i touch. i am not that stupid to keep a dog that will bite me. YOu would have to be here 2 believe me, then u would understand y all that stuff is still there.

[nappydawg]

Yea i agree but it is almost IMPOSSIBLE 2 get that stuff out. He has been off that chain twice since he was 7 months. He will bite anything you touch, thats y i havent moved that stuff out. He even bites the chain he's on if i try to get it off him. Last time it took 3 of us to take him off the chain. and one guy definitely wont help me again. All those shirts and stuff are tangled tightly in that chain. If someone holds the chain while im tryna get them out he trys to bite them. If I could i would but i can't....i've tried all i knowif the dog bites or tries to bite time to lay him to rest quick like imo

[KnottyBoyNC]

if the dog bites or tries to bite time to lay him to rest quick like imo
the dog doesnt try to bite me...I REPEAT. i dont have problem with him trying 2 bite other people b/c no one should try to touch him anyway.

[SFK]

1) If you read my post I said that using smaller bait KEEPS them from using incisors, & forces them to get a deeper bite.
2) If your dog is that human aggressive he need to be put down. Unless you live on an island! yeah, yeah, nobody should be near him, but what if something happens to a kid? Do you even give a shit?
Any dog that will bite someone that quick is no good for the hunt either.

[TabDogs]

the dog doesnt try to bite me...I REPEAT. i dont have problem with him trying 2 bite other people b/c no one should try to touch him anyway.
I hope you dont have any kids or live near any..if thats they way you think..sad just sad

[KnottyBoyNC]

1) If you read my post I said that using smaller bait KEEPS them from using incisors, & forces them to get a deeper bite.
2) If your dog is that human aggressive he need to be put down. Unless you live on an island! yeah, yeah, nobody should be near him, but what if something happens to a kid? Do you even give a shit?
Any dog that will bite someone that quick is no good for the hunt either.
Y does everyone think they know the answer to everything? Like I said before you arent here so u dont know anything. I know how "Boe" is and i am responsible enough to have him where he is. If I know he would bite a human y would i have him in a community or something. I know what im doing. Im not just some guy out in the streets who just has dogs in his backyard cause their pit bulls.

[SFK]

I'm going to say one thing & then I'm going to let this go...
I would NEVER own a dog that I could'nt take off a chain & walk, work on my own. PERIOD... Ya Feel Me??

[TabDogs]

I'm going to say one thing & then I'm going to let this go...
I would NEVER own a dog that I could'nt take off a chain & walk, work on my own. PERIOD... Ya Feel Me??
;) ;) YA hit the nail on the head...ding ding we have a winner...LOL;) ;)

[KnottyBoyNC]

Much respect SFK, but i did not know he would turn out like this. I have grown 2 love this dog and i will not put him 2 sleep. Its not my fault that he's that protective or some say crazy.

[Marty]

examples from Knotty Boy's BoeIn the third pic there is no water, and there is "NO" excuse for the mess, if you can not control your dog something is wrong!

[KnottyBoyNC]

In the third pic there is no water, and there is "NO" excuse for the mess, if you can not control your dog something is wrong!
my point exactly, everyone knows everything! Thats the third pic. Just cause you dont see doesnt mean its not there. if i took the pic for u 2 see that the dog had water i woulda took a picture of the damn water bucket. I can control my own dog, if i couldnt then that wouldn't make it my dog! None of my dogs are undershot or anything all of them have water, none of the dogs in my gallery have the shirts that everyone is so caught up on. But if u want 2 make it like im cruel and dont know what the hell im doing, y dont u come get the damn shirts out yourself!!!!!

[devinben3]

If he was my dog..he would be put to sleep..pitbulls are not bred to be human aggressive..if..just if something did happen and this monster got off..then it would just be another bad statistic and another pitbull in the wrong...why is this guy like this? i have never seen a mad pitbull..ONLY if the owner taught him that????? this dog also doesn't look very healthy..now i understand he's never hardly been off the chain and all, but he has quite a few scars, and all that mess can not be healthy....u say u can take him off his chain?? well take him off, put him on another chain, then cut..with a knife all the junk off..make sure he has plenty of fresh water too!

[Marty]

I can be there in like 5hrs, and I will show you how to handle your dog
And theres no need to get upset we did not post these pictures you did! sorry

[KnottyBoyNC]

If he was my dog..he would be put to sleep..pitbulls are not bred to be human aggressive..if..just if something did happen and this monster got off..then it would just be another bad statistic and another pitbull in the wrong...why is this guy like this? i have never seen a mad pitbull..ONLY if the owner taught him that????? this dog also doesn't look very healthy..now i understand he's never hardly been off the chain and all, but he has quite a few scars, and all that mess can not be healthy....u say u can take him off his chain?? well take him off, put him on another chain, then cut..with a knife all the junk off..make sure he has plenty of fresh water too!
Some pit bulls are bred 2 be human aggressive, there is a line of Methena dogs that are known as Human Biters. He is in a place where he cant get to any humans. I didnt teach him anything. How can u say that the dog doesnt look healthy when most of the dogs up ribs show. he has water also sir

[KnottyBoyNC]

I can be there in like 5hrs, and I will show you how to handle your dog
And theres no need to get upset we did not post these pictures you did! sorry He will definitely bite you, but that would be your fault b/c i told u that he would. The only reason i am getting upset b/c people are jumping to conclusions like i am not taking care of my dogs. I love this site and definitely wouldnt post pics of them if i knew i wasnt taking care of them. The trash (shirts, torn up buckets, and wood from doghouses) is a major problem and i shoulda thought about posting the pics before i did. But my intentions was to help another guy. Not be ganged up on b/c people think the know the answers 2 everything... Much Respect

[devinben3]

Who ever breeds the man aggressive pitbulls need to be shot..excuse me for that..but that is not what this breed is supposed to do..only dog aggressive..never ever should they even think about being man aggressive unless it's a protecive situation where someone is meaning harm to his owner. maybe it was just the pics..he is a good looking dog, but just needs a little TLC starting with a nice long bath, while bathing him try to clean up his area...hell my dogs ribs show..that's not what i was refering to, the apbt is supposed to slightly show the ribs and be well tucked up...however you should not see hip bones stick out excessively. i was meaning by the scars and his coat conditions..i understand he's outside and all and all dogs get dirty..so that's y i'm saying maybe it was just the pictures..do you have any other pics of this guy boa?

[devinben3]

If this dog really is a problem like your saying..extreme human aggressive, then you should really consider him being put down..if not, then you really do need to have him neutered ASAP! you don't want any pups out of him with the chances of human aggression. Back in the old days when they had pit fights, handlers would switch dogs..therefore showing no human aggression..if they were meant to be human aggressive there is no way anyone would stand in a pit w/two game dogs going at it...but then again, this was back in the old days...but my suggestion to you is this...if you want a human aggressive dog..get a cocker spaniel..because they'll do the trick..i know this, my grandmother breeds them..and she's just as nuts as they are!

[SFK]

Knotty, I can understand getting attached. Believe me. But the thing is... this fraternity, these animals, what they mean to us.. It's a much bigger picture than one can see on an individual basis. (I know I said I'd shut up)
Sometimes we have to make decisions based on the greater good. I love all of my dogs, some mean more to me than others but I still care deeply for them all. I believe you take care of your animals, I am not questioning that in any way. What I am saying is if your dog possibly poses a substantial threat to other people you have to love the BREED enough to make the right decision. As far as people breeding human aggressive bulldogs intentionally... they are worthless. They don't deserve to shovel the shit of this breed.

BTW devilben is a young lady & not a bad lookin one at that.

[KnottyBoyNC]

more pics of Boe

[miakoda]

b/c people think the know the answers 2 everything. You're right. We don't know the answers to everything. But what most of us do know is how to properly take care of our dogs, how to keep our dogs' living areas neat & sanitary, & mostly, we know to put down a human aggressive apbt. So there's a group of people breeding a specific line for this unbecoming & damning trait? Then they should be "discarded" just like their dogs. I'm totally disgusted.

You said you shouldn't have posted the pics now? That's wrong. What you should've thought about & done is clean up the mess that even you said is a problem. But instead of cleaning it up, all you can say is you just should have not posted the pics. Amazing...........

I hope for humans' sake, none of your dogs ever have a remote chance of getting a hold of one. And for your dogs' sake, I hope you wake up & act like a man should & put the care & health of his dogs above training them & instilling a hard bite. And don't worry about your "much respect" comments. Talk doesn't work for me, actions do. So until then, good day.

[devinben3]

BTW devilben is a young lady & not a bad lookin one at that.
Thank you SFK, i meant to say i was a lady and not a sir..

[KnottyBoyNC]

You're right. We don't know the answers to everything. But what most of us do know is how to properly take care of our dogs, how to keep our dogs' living areas neat & sanitary, & mostly, we know to put down a human aggressive apbt. So there's a group of people breeding a specific line for this unbecoming & damning trait? Then they should be "discarded" just like their dogs. I'm totally disgusted.

You said you shouldn't have posted the pics now? That's wrong. What you should've thought about & done is clean up the mess that even you said is a problem. But instead of cleaning it up, all you can say is you just should have not posted the pics. Amazing...........

I hope for humans' sake, none of your dogs ever have a remote chance of getting a hold of one. And for your dogs' sake, I hope you wake up & act like a man should & put the care & health of his dogs above training them & instilling a hard bite. And don't worry about your "much respect" comments. Talk doesn't work for me, actions do. So until then, good day.Well lady, i see someone has given a degree in speaking bs. So is everyone saying that none of their dogs will bite, bark, growl, etc if not provoked. I guess when people really loves dogs that feel they know EVERYTHING... u guys have be kidding, lol. i dont like the fact that he is the way he is (biting anything) Again i say i dont train my dogs to do anything. Maybe someone should throw you a tire so u could keep your mouth shut.

[NoSchwag]

Anyway, a good way to strengthen the mouth is one of those blue raquet balls.

[KnottyBoyNC]

Knotty, I can understand getting attached. Believe me. But the thing is... this fraternity, these animals, what they mean to us.. It's a much bigger picture than one can see on an individual basis. (I know I said I'd shut up)
Sometimes we have to make decisions based on the greater good. I love all of my dogs, some mean more to me than others but I still care deeply for them all. I believe you take care of your animals, I am not questioning that in any way. What I am saying is if your dog possibly poses a substantial threat to other people you have to love the BREED enough to make the right decision. As far as people breeding human aggressive bulldogs intentionally... they are worthless. They don't deserve to shovel the shit of this breed.

BTW devilben is a young lady & not a bad lookin one at that.
WTF, i didnt make my dog like this. I dont like the fact that my dog is like this. But if he wasnt like this, he would have been stolen a long time ago. R u guys saying that it is wrong to own a dog this human aggressive? Im not understanding. Anybody who owns dogs and breeds them know that people are thiefs and will steal your dogs, so y have a "cur" that will go freely. There is no point in that. I would rather have a dog that will bite someone tryna steal it than 2 have a dog that wags his tail everytime someone comes 2 it........NO RESPECT!

[devinben3]

So is everyone saying that none of their dogs will bite, bark, growl, etc if not provoked.
No that is not what we're saying..ANY dog can bite if provoked..ANY dog! but you say this dog will bite anything and anyone who comes near him except you. this is a big risk..you say u've only had him off his chain twice. i wouldn't want any of my dogs living on a chain their whole life and never be able to get off..(my personal dogs are inside)..but even the other owners with dogs on chains take their dogs off all the time and give them the proper care and exercise they need. I'm not trying to jump down your throat, i'm just trying to help educate you on the fact that a pitbull is not supposed to be human aggressive and if you come around one that is..it truely does need to be put down. there can be no good in this animal. I will bet that 99% of everyone on here who are experienced and responsible apbt owners, would put that dog down if it were theirs...or if someone had the same thing happen to one of their dogs right now, they would put it down. just think about it and what's best for you and your dogs..what happens if animal control comes around?? the dog living in those conditions and no one can come around..they will for sure take the dog...you just need to think about it.

[D.R KING]

Well lady, i see someone has given a degree in speaking bs. So is everyone saying that none of their dogs will bite, bark, growl, etc if not provoked. I guess when people really loves dogs that feel they know EVERYTHING... u guys have be kidding, lol. i dont like the fact that he is the way he is (biting anything) Again i say i dont train my dogs to do anything. Maybe someone should throw you a tire so u could keep your mouth shut.

Did you fall off something and bump your head?, mia's post are far from bs....she gives it like it needs to be told but you dont wanna hear it. Pitty.

All your doing is making excuses why your dog like that, but not trying to do anything about it. If it was my dog, he would have been gone a long time ago. People can steal my dogs, hell they can walk up right in the house and pick one from out their cages and be on your way......pitbulls are supposed to love people, if they dont...somethings wrong

[KnottyBoyNC]

No that is not what we're saying..ANY dog can bite if provoked..ANY dog! but you say this dog will bite anything and anyone who comes near him except you. this is a big risk..you say u've only had him off his chain twice. i wouldn't want any of my dogs living on a chain their whole life and never be able to get off..(my personal dogs are inside)..but even the other owners with dogs on chains take their dogs off all the time and give them the proper care and exercise they need. I'm not trying to jump down your throat, i'm just trying to help educate you on the fact that a pitbull is not supposed to be human aggressive and if you come around one that is..it truely does need to be put down. there can be no good in this animal. I will bet that 99% of everyone on here who are experienced and responsible apbt owners, would put that dog down if it were theirs...or if someone had the same thing happen to one of their dogs right now, they would put it down. just think about it and what's best for you and your dogs..what happens if animal control comes around?? the dog living in those conditions and no one can come around..they will for sure take the dog...you just need to think about it.
1. I said the dog will bite anything someone touches. 2. He will bite anyone. (Y would i want other people touching my dogs) 3. Who says that the pit bull is not supposed to be human aggressive. In fact who knows how the pit bull came about?????? Everyone is feeding off the same bullcrap and knows whats best for everyones dogs. I bet there are a lot of people who wouldnt mind their dog being human aggressive under some circumstances.

[rocksteady]

OK .. Personally I think this thread is going wayyy off a shakey topic to begin with. . Can we please end this now???? Seriously..its starting to be a bunch of bickering back and forth. Can you guys take it private now??

Ways to strengthin mouth... hmmmm.. funny.. wasnt this the same person who would rather strap a muzzle to the dog?

[miakoda]

OK .. Personally I think this thread is going wayyy off a shakey topic to begin with. . Can we please end this now???? Seriously..its starting to be a bunch of bickering back and forth. Can you guys take it private now??
I concur.

[D.R KING]

1. I said the dog will bite anything someone touches. 2. He will bite anyone. (Y would i want other people touching my dogs) 3. Who says that the pit bull is not supposed to be human aggressive. In fact who knows how the pit bull came about?????? Everyone is feeding off the same bullcrap and knows whats best for everyones dogs. I bet there are a lot of people who wouldnt mind their dog being human aggressive under some circumstances.

well if I wanted a guard dog I would get a rottweiler no problem, but these are pitbulls were talking about, their not bred to be human aggressive!

[miakoda]

Who says that the pit bull is not supposed to be human aggressive
The people in our history who created the breed!

[KnottyBoyNC]

The people in our history who created the breed!
Who are those people?? Dont forget its HIS STORY not the WHOLE STORY

[Marty]

1. I said the dog will bite anything someone touches. 2. He will bite anyone. (Y would i want other people touching my dogs) 3. Who says that the pit bull is not supposed to be human aggressive. In fact who knows how the pit bull came about?????? Everyone is feeding off the same bullcrap and knows whats best for everyones dogs. I bet there are a lot of people who wouldnt mind their dog being human aggressive under some circumstances.How long have you owned pitbulls ?
I have 20+ yrs with them, I have taken care of over 100 dogs everyday for at least 12 months and handled everyone, never have I came across a pitbull that would bite you, if I did it was culled, there is no place in this world for an APBT that bites, this is how these dogs were breed for 100s of years, so why is it now that its ok :(

[D.R KING]

Who are those people?? Dont forget its HIS STORY not the WHOLE STORY
well thats it, we're done here


you shouldnt own this breed if you feel that way, I feel sorry for your dogs.....

[Texasbulldogs]

KnottyBoyNC…if you don’t like your dog acting the way he does, then start working him! It sounds like he is very frustrated and bored, rightfully so too. But by letting him rot on a chain will only make him worse! If you’re unable to meet his needs, find someone who is will to. Since you're only offering him minimal, do you expect anything more than that from him?

[TabDogs]

so y have a "cur" that will go freely. There is no point in that. I would rather have a dog that will bite someone tryna steal it than 2 have a dog that wags his tail everytime someone comes 2 it........NO RESPECT!Being a "cur" has NOTHING to do with human aggression.....So you consider a dog a "cur" if it goes freely with a stranger?????

[Marty]

Being a "cur" has NOTHING to do with human aggression.....So you consider a dog a "cur" if it goes freely with a stranger?????
Read this its not a pure breed dog, but this is what the pitbulls should be able to take without lashing out.
http://www.game-dog.com/forums/showthread.php?p=49919#post49919

Quote=Benedict told police the three teens were walking around town sometime after midnight when they came upon C.C. tied outside. She began barking at them.

One of the three untied the dog and the group led her to a bike path. Benedict told police they took turns punching and kicking the animal, which he described to police as being a "friendly" dog.

According to Linthicum, a necropsy conducted on C.C. by a local veterinarian uncovered "multiple lacerations" on the dog's face and head, with "at least 20" wounds on the body. The top of the dog's skull was soft to the touch, and the animal suffered a possible skull fracture. Its neck was lacerated so deeply that blood vessels were exposed. It had been stabbed in the chest, eyes and muzzle, and there were cuts on the dog's eyelids.

Benedict told police he hit the dog "at least three times" and "cut and stabbed the dog's throat two or three times."