Keeping a game dog.

[RollinRuger]

I was curious about how you keep your dogs.If you want him to be a catch or some sort of working dog and are not worried wether it gets along with other animals which if its game it probably wont anyways,do you not socialize it with animals,and just with people , one or the other or both?

[searkkennels]

i socialize mine with people only, people we know that are allowed to our yard thats all. Like 4 or 5 people.

[chainsoff]

I socialize mine with people ony, also, and thats VERY few, like SEARK said 5 at the most. Only the folks who are close friends and over often.

[RollinRuger]

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[chainsoff]

So socialization to some extent is detrimental.? I think my dog is definately oversocialized, can this be fixed? He has a game attitude in some ways where if i tell him to jump of a ledge and swimm 50 yards he will but he seems to like all animals except cats. He is only 61/2 mons. so maybe you can't tell yet. what do you think?What are you talking about, a "game attitude"?! A dog IS game or he ISN"T. It's not an "attitude", and you can't trll if one IS or IS NOT game at 6 1/2 months. Is your dog even gamebred?

[DEACON ROM]

imo the more socializing the better with people and other dogs animals and enirnments. the more love and time you put into an animal the more he will be able to give back. if he is introduced to things at a young age then when he is older he will be more capable to adapt like a veteran even as a rookie. but i also there is a cut off point where he needs to hit the chain.

[searkkennels]

just wait on your dog. give him time, don't try to make him try to do anything he doesn't want to do. he will let you know. jus let him mature in other words

[RollinRuger]

What do you mean by your last sentence hitting the chain/cut off point.
I am trying to upload a picture of him but it says it too big cant figure it out.

[chainsoff]

I agree Ground, but only as a pup. Once he hits the chain all the animal socialization stops, as well as strange people. Only the folks trusted and allowed to be on the yard.

[DEACON ROM]

I agree Ground, but only as a pup. Once he hits the cahin all the animal socialization stops, as well as strange people. Only the folks trusted and allowed to be on the yard.
yep agreed.

[RollinRuger]

sounds good too me . too bad that files to large to post.

[searkkennels]

man crop the pic that will make it smaller

[RollinRuger]

finally got it.

[RollinRuger]

I got the size on here right but now when i upload photo its not showing up.

[RollinRuger]

nevermind there he is.

[RollinRuger]

what do you all think about the pic sorry theres no ped but besides that is he an alright lookin pup?

[chainsoff]

He's a good looking dog. But when it comes to gamedogs, looks don't mean jack, what they have inside is what matters.

[RollinRuger]

He's a good looking dog. But when it comes to gamedogs, looks don't mean jack, what they have inside is what matters.Thats what i thought as well i guess well never know what lines hes from but well see what he has inside right. Hes a good first one everything will be a learning experience

[miakoda]

As far as my dogs, I don't let them "play" with each other past about 3-4 mo. of age. Most don't care anyways. However, I do have a few that can be coupled with another dog for short, supervised sessions (i.e. Mia & Wrigley, Shaker & Akee...but not anymore obviously with them two). As far as human socialization, only a select handful of people know where I live & what I've got. However, many of my dogs do get walked up & down our street (its a dead-end street in the middle of pasture land) & get to visit with the neighbors. I also alternate bringing a dog (select ones) to work with me. I'm a believer that a dog can't be over socialized. Look at Wrigley. He meets EVERYONE, yet if you & I are standing together & I hit you & scream "ow" he will go after you in a heartbeat (he's a momma's boy ;) ). I would think/hope that in the face of danger my APBTs would come to my defense, but I don't count on it. Hence Wrigley.

[B]

I moved the thread because this has nothing to do with Equipment for Sale ;)

B

[TabDogs]

My dogs are socialized with Family and a select few people who allowed to stop by...Other than that we have a closed yard and no vistors period...Would prefer not to risk the safety of my dogs just to invite strangers to socialize with them...The only time they are loose with another dog is when they are pups and in the puppy pen..other than that they are close to the dogs next to them on the chain..

[xXx]

The dogs fall into two categories. Pet or athlete. You need to determine this about yourself and your animals too. Yard dogs are raised, treated everything different than pets. If you have 1 dog, he will be treated diff than on a yard with 20 others.

Also, like someone said earlier, how you raise them (within the general sense) has little do with the final outcome if the dog is not bred well to begin with.

I'll be honest, most of what I read on here is from people that have 1 or 2 dogs or have some dogs with little to no idea of what they are doing. And it all comes down to a lot of wasted dog food. People, do your homework first, then get a dog. A free dog isn't always the answer. By the time you realize this you have wasted time, money and very well could have caused some sort of problems for yourself not to mention what a lot of people do to damage what is left of our Fraternity (if that even exists anymore.)

Just my thoughts.

[RollinRuger]

The dogs fall into two categories. Pet or athlete. You need to determine this about yourself and your animals too. Yard dogs are raised, treated everything different than pets. If you have 1 dog, he will be treated diff than on a yard with 20 others.

Also, like someone said earlier, how you raise them (within the general sense) has little do with the final outcome if the dog is not bred well to begin with.

I'll be honest, most of what I read on here is from people that have 1 or 2 dogs or have some dogs with little to no idea of what they are doing. And it all comes down to a lot of wasted dog food. People, do your homework first, then get a dog. A free dog isn't always the answer. By the time you realize this you have wasted time, money and very well could have caused some sort of problems for yourself not to mention what a lot of people do to damage what is left of our Fraternity (if that even exists anymore.)

Just my thoughts.How will the athletes treatment differ from the pets?

[sam]

He has a game attitude in some ways where if i tell him to jump of a ledge and swimm 50 yards he will


Since when is swimming a game test?

[Rockstar]

I socialize my dogs with as many people as possible. Personally, I don't believe you can over-socialize an APBT, but then again, I've had 13 stolen over the past 9 nine years:p.

I've learned that it can be very easy to under-socialize them though.

[RIVES PITS]

The Only People That My Dogs Come In Contact With Is My Wife And Kids And I Have A Friend That Helps Me With Them From Time To Time. If I'm There They Are Ok But Go Mess With Them Without One Of The Above And You Are On Your Own. It's Ok To Socialize Them Deffinetly But That Could Lead To A Stolen Dog Am I Right?

[Rockstar]

So what if you have to sell one...or give one away?

[RIVES PITS]

Hopefully I Won't Ever Have To But How Would You Socialize A Dog That Is 3 Or 4 Years Of Age?

[GaDog]

Hey I say put it on a chain and feed it raw cats and babies and old people stuff so when it does get off and it probably will maybe you can be in the news. This is what Pit haters love, a chained unsocialized dog. There is some great advice in here. Man someone turn on the lights for the cave dwellers.
Socialize your dog, the breed is already under attack. Make it a freindly and as obeidiant as possible. Want a gaurd dog or protection go get a shepard or something that does not already have the country on its back. Hogs hunting , ok. pulling , ok, agression, stupid with this breed at this time and place in this country.

[RIVES PITS]

With All The Dog Thefts In My Area This Is What I Must Do. If Someone Is In My Yard That Isn't Suppose To Be Wtf Am I Gonna Do From Keeping Them From Stealing It? I Have Video Cameras And All. I Paid To Much To Risk The Chance Of My Dogs Being Stolen. Any Dog With Teeth Will Bite. He Is Socialized With The People I Wish Him To Be Socialized With. Aggression Is In The Blood If You Are Scared Of It You Don't Need A Pit. When You Are Raising A Pup You Help Shape The Traits You Wish To Be Present.

[Daddydbol]

Hey I say put it on a chain and feed it raw cats and babies and old people stuff so when it does get off and it probably will maybe you can be in the news. This is what Pit haters love, a chained unsocialized dog. There is some great advice in here. Man someone turn on the lights for the cave dwellers.
Socialize your dog, the breed is already under attack. Make it a freindly and as obeidiant as possible. Want a gaurd dog or protection go get a shepard or something that does not already have the country on its back. Hogs hunting , ok. pulling , ok, agression, stupid with this breed at this time and place in this country.

very well put

i have one pit and still very new to the breed but from what i have learned they don't make the best gaurd dogs.....now i'm 29 and have owned a total of 8 dobermans and i promise for protection against humans the dobies are going out do the pits hands down....i do not see a pit, other than a mental factor being even in the same class as a doberman or german shepard

i'm teaching my pit to be loving and very social with everyone that will be in contact with him

[SouthernDixie]

I have socialized my 8 month old probably as much as you can. She goes to school for obedience and later will be going for agility, she always goes to the pet store, I let everyone pet her, she plays well with cats and dogs, BUT when I take her around other pits, she will roll with them from dusk till dawn. If she gets nipped at a time or two (playing NOT fighting), she keeps on going and presses even harder. There's nothing she will give up on doing. I don't think socializing makes them less game.

[misterdogman]

The dogs are put on a chain when they can pull it easy and usually 5 feet away from another dog when stretched toward each other ...Males by males, females by females, socialized with immediate family and partners only and thats it, but the kids socialize a dog better than anything.... and theres a few kids in the family. The dogs are happier to see them than me with the food bowls or a toy etc......and thats the extent of it...but they get it like this everyday and expect the kids to throw some balls around and hand out a few treats a day...this everyday among these few select people...is enough... they dont need you n their face all the time anyway...the dogs socialize them too, like needed... so they never show kid or people aggression...with people..."if their bitin' their dyin'" and thats with any dog.

[SLICK WILLIE]

I have gamedogs that get along with non-gamedogs! They know the diff btwen each other. My house dog is a puss and she curs to all the gamers on the yard and they pay her no mind. My bitches will hit male of female cause during breeding the bitches want to eat his head. The male's on the other hand just want some poon! Some you can take out and some you cant. Most will stand up to be Alpha in any area when you take them outside their own yard if they have the sand for it!

[jawbones]

I was curious about how you keep your dogs.If you want him to be a catch or some sort of working dog and are not worried wether it gets along with other animals which if its game it probably wont anyways,do you not socialize it with animals,and just with people , one or the other or both?
Our dogs are socialized with other people besides our 5 and other dogs but, only in a controlled enviroment. When I say controlled I mean good heavy lead ropes, and the people working together to teach these guys and girls the agenda is the hog, coon, bobcat, etc. NOT each other. Some will and some will not. These guys are very intelligent and can be trained to hunt together without incident. The fact remains though that because of the high drive these guys have, we can never trust them together without proper supervision, and with this there is still a chance of an accident. IMO

[idgie]

I have socialized my 8 month old probably as much as you can. She goes to school for obedience and later will be going for agility, she always goes to the pet store, I let everyone pet her, she plays well with cats and dogs, BUT when I take her around other pits, she will roll with them from dusk till dawn. If she gets nipped at a time or two (playing NOT fighting), she keeps on going and presses even harder. There's nothing she will give up on doing. I don't think socializing makes them less game.

Some who play well with cats and dogs at 8 months don't much longer.
Also are you sure you can tell playing vs fighting? Sometimes I don't think those words translate into dog terms.

[whiteyransom]

just wondering about what bgfukennels said about carrying a pit around other pits. i know with most dogs they know who the alpha dog is, or it's quickly established. but with pits it's different, right. they all want, or try to be the dominant dog. i've never been to a apbt show, but i wonder how the dogs act there. i know not all dogs there are game dogs, but they've still got it in them. right? hell, maybe i didn't read it right. but i still wonder about it. anybody that's been to a apbt show got stories of how that many pits act around each other?

[houstonapbt]

just wondering about what bgfukennels said about carrying a pit around other pits. i know with most dogs they know who the alpha dog is, or it's quickly established. but with pits it's different, right. they all want, or try to be the dominant dog. i've never been to a apbt ...show, but i wonder how the dogs act there. i know not all dogs there are game dogs, but they've still got it in them. right? hell, maybe i didn't read it right. but i still wonder about it. anybody that's been to a apbt show got ...stories of how that many pits act around each other?The term "game dog" doesn't have anything to do with aggression. These dogs can be trained while on the leash to ignore or tolerate dogs around them. No dog should be wild on a leash. Remember, you are dominant, they are supposed to be submissive. If your dog is wild on his leash, best to correct the problem. It's not that each dog wants to be "dominant", they just want to fight. That's just aggression and drive at play, but like I said, you're the dominant being which means YOU let him know what's OK and what's not...

[devinben3]

We don't let many people come to our house..just some family. But we do however, take our dogs to the beach just about every day or every other day..or we take them to the pool, etc..but my house is so far back in the woods, it takes 30 mins to get to civilazation. But as far as hog hunting...there is a lot of people out around me who hunt..and most people only let one catch dog loose at a time...just so no accidents happen..But people around here also use a bigger pit for hunting..abou 70lbs lean..a mayday type build dog....because in their experience it is easier for them to use their weight and strenth to take a bigger hog down by themselves..w/l using two 35 lb dogs and risk an accidnet..although a small pit is way capable of handleing a big hog.

[Rocky H. Balboa]

I agree with all that believe people and animal socialization is beneficial to our dogs. I don't believe a socialized dog (game bred) faced with another game bred will cur b/c of prior socialization. Socialization gives them a broader perspective on life. It helps them to "differentiate" aggressive and non-aggressive animals. It removes the "surprise" factor from future incidents or events. In regards to socializing with people, I take my dog to "people' parks and allow them to pet him with some procedure. Because I am conscious of people may try to steel him, I tell them he has been fully trained to listen to me and that while under my supervision, they are fine. I allow them to touch the back side of the dog while I hold on his neck/face. This is a procedure to retain a "wary" feeling in any person thinking of stealing him.