View Full Version : Will you be a GOOD APBT OWNER?????
DEADGAME14
06-12-2005, 02:59 PM
Is one of the bully breeds the right dog for you? See how many questions you can really answer yes to..
1.Am i an experienced dog owner, or a natural leader?
2. Am i firmly commited to socializing and training my puppy?
3. Do i tend to be calm and quiet rather than short fused and hyper?
4. Will i train my dog with kindness, consistancy and patience?
5. Am i informed about the misconceptions and biases against these breeds?
6. Do i understand that this dog must live in the heart of my family?
7.Am i a physically active person?(a tired dog is a good dog.)
8.Am i eager to convince the public that these breeds make great family pets?
9. Am i writing letters to legislators, insurance companies and newspaper editors to oppose "Breed Profiling"?
10. Am i willing to be at least twice as responcible a dog owner as anyone i know?
DEADGAME14
06-12-2005, 03:37 PM
lets try to keep this poll real. the only one your deceving by untruthfully answering this poll is your beloved dog.
houstonapbt
06-12-2005, 03:55 PM
7-9.......I havent written any letters...
DEADGAME14
06-12-2005, 04:12 PM
if you are lacking in some areas please share them with the forum.That is one great way to get great tips fom others,Also others that have the same problems wont feel like they are " the only ones".
chainsoff
06-12-2005, 04:35 PM
9. Am i writing letters to legislators, insurance companies and newspaper editors to oppose "Breed Profiling"?Let me get this right. If I'm not writing ala these letters, but all of my dogs are healthy, well cared for and exercised, then im not a good owner. Or I need to learn more. Personally I think a bit of your poll is crap. You don't have to be a political activist to be a good responsible owner.
badger
06-12-2005, 04:36 PM
writing letters to legislators,insurance co....etc. never have done that yet. i am new to this breed and am constantly learning from alot from the experienced and the positive people of the forum thanks!
DEADGAME14
06-12-2005, 04:46 PM
Let me get this right. If I'm not writing ala these letters, but all of my dogs are healthy, well cared for and exercised, then im not a good owner. Or I need to learn more. Personally I think a bit of your poll is crap. You don't have to be a political activist to be a good responsible owner.it sounds like you have a good point, but lemme ask you this, do you think with all the negative media hype, and unsure polititions thinking of banning these breeds, that one persons letter or petition does not count?If everyone that thought like that would drop a letter or sighn a petition, we would probably have a way better chance of winning the fight against BSl and and other b.s. org's.
All of our voices to be heard, is a army to recon with, we cannot win this battle with wall flowers, and complainers that dont take a stand for the rights of all.
chainsoff
06-12-2005, 05:04 PM
it sounds like you have a good point, but lemme ask you this, do you think with all the negative media hype, and unsure polititions thinking of banning these breeds, that one persons letter or petition does not count?If everyone that thought like that would drop a letter or sighn a petition, we would probably have a way better chance of winning the fight against BSl and and other b.s. org's.
All of our voices to be heard, is a army to recon with, we cannot win this battle with wall flowers, and complainers that dont take a stand for the rights of all.I do sign every petition I see regarding the fight against BSL. I just spend time with the dogs rather than sitting around writing letters. But I also live in reality, the American Publics voice and opinion, means next to nothing to our government. If they decide that something will be done, truth be told no one can stop their gestapo. I agree we should fight BSL, sign petitions, whatever, but it isn't necessary to write letters to be a good Dogman.
TabDogs
06-12-2005, 05:15 PM
i agree this poll isnt good...you have to be "calm and quite" to own this breed???? So in order to be a good dog owner we all need to be lump on a log huh..I am out spoken and in the least bit a quite person...that makes me no less of a good dog owner. Doesnt that interfere or contridict the whole writing letters and voicing opinions questions. I would think it takes more of an outspoken, not so "quite" person to voice their opinoin in the public eye. A shy, quite, calm person isnt going to jump up and write a letter to be printed in the public eye..JMHO
rocksteady
06-12-2005, 05:19 PM
Its a tight line..you want people to understand that the dog does make a good family pet but at the same time, you dont want a bunch of idiots running out to buy one..
besides the two questions the rest pose some good thought and insight.. something new to the breed people should consider
DEADGAME14
06-13-2005, 12:01 AM
i agree this poll isnt good...you have to be "calm and quite" to own this breed???? So in order to be a good dog owner we all need to be lump on a log huh..I am out spoken and in the least bit a quite person...that makes me no less of a good dog owner. Doesnt that interfere or contridict the whole writing letters and voicing opinions questions. I would think it takes more of an outspoken, not so "quite" person to voice their opinoin in the public eye. A shy, quite, calm person isnt going to jump up and write a letter to be printed in the public eye..JMHOi dont think you have to be a calm quiet person to own the breed, that term is used in the way you train and treat your dog(s).It means having patience in the obedience dept. rather than getting angry and yelling at your dog. Not meaning you have to be a "lump on a log" boring quiet person, becouse i doubt there is many apbt owners that have that personality.
chainsoff
06-13-2005, 12:05 AM
I don't think it takes a real outgoing person for these dogs either. I am sort of withdrawn a bit. I'd rather spend the day on the yard with the dogs, or working one on one with each dog, than socialize with a bunch of peole. I guess it may be that I just don't like or trust many folks. The dogs are far better company than 8 out 10 humans.
DEADGAME14
06-13-2005, 12:12 AM
I don't think it takes a real outgoing person for these dogs either. I am sort of withdrawn a bit. I'd rather spend the day on the yard with the dogs, or working one on one with each dog, than socialize with a bunch of peole. I guess it may be that I just don't like or trust many folks. The dogs are far better company than 8 out 10 humans.The dogs are far better company than 8 out 10 humans. i agree with you on that chains, but i do socialize my dogs with my friends and family.especially the kids in the family.I want them to be around and get used to others so they know how i want them to behave when others come over.otherwise they will jump all ove, or knock down kids ect. So for me and alot of others that arent hermites and do have contact with the outside world, socialization is a real big key in helping people understand these dogs arent wild beast that have no control.
njchmin
06-13-2005, 03:15 AM
I agree with chainsoff. I would rather sit in my backyard doing something with my dogs than be out with other people. For the most part the dogs make better company and they dont complain or back stab and they are happy just laying at your feet or better yet chasing a tennis ball around.
I love all my pups. Everyone is healthy and well taken care of. I have never actually written a letter to anyone though.
DEACON ROM
06-13-2005, 06:19 PM
"In help giving onself a "self-analysis" as a dogman, here are some razor-sharp questions that will cut through the BS and strip away the fluff from the substance:
Would you want to have YOU as an "owner," or would you try to avoid being owned by you?
Would you want to be kept in the conditions that you keep your dogs in, or would you yourself not be able to tolerate it?
Would you want to be fed the same-quality ration that you feed your dogs with, or would you demand better quality if you knew it was for yourself?
Would you want to be placed into the same circumstances you place your dogs in, or would you suddenly see that as "too much to expect" if you yourself had to pass such a test?
Would you be satisfied in receiving the same "love and attention" that you take the time to give your own dogs, or would you be miserable with the same inadequate socialization?
If you were going to spend $1000 and buy a foundational pup, would you spend that $1000 on your own breeding program, as an outsider looking at what you have proven to produce already, or would you pass yourself up as inadequately-proven and spend that money with someone ELSE who is more proven as a breeder of key dogs?
If you are going to sell a dog, have you priced it at the same level as what you yourself would pay for that same dog, knowing everything about it, or are you asking more for that dog than what you yourself would be willing to pay, knowing everything?
Jack "
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DEADGAME14
06-13-2005, 06:48 PM
"In help giving onself a "self-analysis" as a dogman, here are some razor-sharp questions that will cut through the BS and strip away the fluff from the substance:
Would you want to have YOU as an "owner," or would you try to avoid being owned by you?
Would you want to be kept in the conditions that you keep your dogs in, or would you yourself not be able to tolerate it?
Would you want to be fed the same-quality ration that you feed your dogs with, or would you demand better quality if you knew it was for yourself?
Would you want to be placed into the same circumstances you place your dogs in, or would you suddenly see that as "too much to expect" if you yourself had to pass such a test?
Would you be satisfied in receiving the same "love and attention" that you take the time to give your own dogs, or would you be miserable with the same inadequate socialization?
If you were going to spend $1000 and buy a foundational pup, would you spend that $1000 on your own breeding program, as an outsider looking at what you have proven to produce already, or would you pass yourself up as inadequately-proven and spend that money with someone ELSE who is more proven as a breeder of key dogs?
If you are going to sell a dog, have you priced it at the same level as what you yourself would pay for that same dog, knowing everything about it, or are you asking more for that dog than what you yourself would be willing to pay, knowing everything?
Jack "
<!-- google_ad_section_end -->that is pretty damn good ground, i tried to make a good one but some didnt like it.Sorry, not trying to piss anyone off just trying to make a good poll and help out.But thank everybody for joining in and putting your 2 cents in, ill work off of that from now on.
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