A boyle dogs really good dogs

[TopDog]

I have a cousin who have had some Boyles dogs in the past and he told me that they are not really good dogs so can someone tell me if thats true.

[The Watcher]

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=29933

let me introduce you to the "mouth of the south" (Patrick/Boyles')

[Wayne]

When bred right they are great all round bull dogs.I have 3 boyles` bred dogs 2 females one male.All have done what there suppose to.So in my opinion they are very Good dogs.

[Gamest]

I was told that every man should have his own opioion and that is ur cousions. The BOYLES dogs that i have had and presently own are among tha baddest that i have ever owned. They have it all. MHO is that u cant go wrong with the boyles blood. NNNNEEEEEXXXXTTTTTTTT

[STPFAN]

Here are 2 damn good boyles dogs:

GR CH RISING STAR'S SPARKY (6XW) (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pedigrees/printPedigree.php?dog_id=21044)
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=21044

and

CH WCC'S KILLIAN (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pedigrees/printPedigree.php?dog_id=37848)
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=37848

YIS

[The Watcher]

[QUOTE=STPFAN]Here are 2 damn good boyles dogs:

GR CH RISING STAR'S SPARKY (6XW) (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pedigrees/printPedigree.php?dog_id=21044)
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=21044

Imma big Sparky Fan!!!!!
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=143697

[STPFAN]

Backstreet Truez is by far showing the best Boyles dogs around!

CH BACKSTREET TRUEZ' DIRTY JERSEY ROM (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pedigrees/printPedigree.php?dog_id=87075)
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=87075

CH BACKSTREET TRUEZ' CORTEZ (3XW-1XGL) (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pedigrees/printPedigree.php?dog_id=15674)
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=15674

CH BACK STREET TRUEZ' SUPERMAN (4XW) (1xl) (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pedigrees/printPedigree.php?dog_id=15343)
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=15343

CH. BACKSTREET TRUEZ' SNAKE GIRL (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pedigrees/printPedigree.php?dog_id=89739)
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=89739

CH BACKSTREET TRUEZ'S SUPERGIRL (3XW) (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pedigrees/printPedigree.php?dog_id=129003)
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=129003

CH BACK STREET TRUEZ' BAT MAN (3XW) (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pedigrees/printPedigree.php?dog_id=86978)
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=86978

YIS

[STPFAN]

Oh yeah...forgot 1 more great Boyles dog...........

CH S.T.P.'S BLACK PAZMANIAN (4XW) ROM (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pedigrees/printPedigree.php?dog_id=116366)
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=116366

YIS

[The Watcher]

**FIFTY is tickled to death lookin at all these Boyles' dogs-
hey STP, looks like a whole litter of champs out of that Dudley X Dirty Jersy stuff?

[STPFAN]

**FIFTY is tickled to death lookin at all these Boyles' dogs-
hey STP, looks like a whole litter of champs out of that Dudley X Dirty Jersy stuff?
It sure is Fifty....just good dogs going to even better dogmen!

YIS

[carson3535]

I got some dogs off of GR CH HALL"S ANDY CAPP and off of CH MORGAN"S VOODOO and they sre looking good. Got me starting to like the Boyles line

[auggiedog]

dont forget bandido boyz ch. geronimo

[Gamest]

Geranimo is another good one , I got a male off him that is tha real deal. http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=110350

[DEACON ROM]

[QUOTE=STPFAN]Here are 2 damn good boyles dogs:

GR CH RISING STAR'S SPARKY (6XW) (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pedigrees/printPedigree.php?dog_id=21044)
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=21044

and

CH WCC'S KILLIAN (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pedigrees/printPedigree.php?dog_id=37848)
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=37848

killian hasnt produced jack.
gr ch bull hasnt produced jack.
and alot of other good boyles dogs just arnt producing period.
the boyles line isnt packing the % as they once were like the dirty mary and the bolt action and all those other rom dogs.
there is just too much going on in the blood to stay compeitive with that line and no one has been as successful as ronald with those dogs since that time.
from what ive seen and am told, those animals do real funny stuff (especially the heivy hank ones) and have odd personalitys not only in the pit but just in general. they have a prey drive that is out of this world, but the ones ive owned and seen and been around and had have dicusstions about the fellas that have run the line for years will say the same thing. these dogs are off the wall. the kind of dogs you throw in a crate and slam the door behind. real pushy at young age, if there not impressive as young dogs they just dont get any better. anyway, everone has there opinions i suppose.

[The Watcher]

CH NEWMAN'S BUCK (3XW) ROM (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=1178)
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=1178
hasnt done so bad. bred to :
LANE'S COCOA (2XW)POR (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=42557)
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=42557
produced, GR. CH. LIL KIM*, CH B-REAL (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=91145), JACKIE* 1XW , JOHNSON'S CHICAGO BULL (1XW) , NESLER AND CAIN'S TROUBLE (1XW) (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=144861)in one litter.

[DEACON ROM]

CH NEWMAN'S BUCK (3XW) ROM (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=1178)
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=1178
hasnt done so bad. bred to : LANE'S COCOA (2XW)POR (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=42557)
produced, GR. CH. LIL KIM*, CH B-REAL (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=91145), JACKIE* 1XW , JOHNSON'S CHICAGO BULL (1XW) , NESLER AND CAIN'S TROUBLE (1XW) (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=144861)
i think any line will be able to produce winners.
although that breeding is an outcross. which i belive is what needs to be done with the boyles stuff, because it ran back yo itself just ant working as well as it once did.

[The Watcher]

in my opion the out X was what helped, WELL PROVED what could be done with the line if properlly bred.
R.Newman said this is the best litter Buck has ever produced.

[DEACON ROM]

i agree. the jeep/eli is another good one. even the jeep redboy. and the redboy jocko. boyles dogs bring a good mouth thats for sure.

[The Watcher]

i agree. the jeep/eli is another good one. even the jeep redboy. and the redboy jocko. boyles dogs bring a good mouth thats for sure.yes mouth seems to always come with the package, but also produce some "freaky" idividuals.
Im liking the Boyles' X so far.

[DEACON ROM]

yes mouth seems to always come with the package, but also produce some "freaky" idividuals.
Im liking the Boyles' X so far.
me too! ;)

[dreamshatters]

Geranimo is another good one , I got a male off him that is tha real deal.

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=110350hello, gamest hows this little macho buck guy acting ? hes a very well bred animal

[vena]

hello, gamest hows this little macho buck guy acting ? hes a very well bred animal
Here's a good acting young Geronimo pup

www.registerofmerit.com/pedigree/interface/content/showPedPublicDomain.php?ID_dog=6170

[JBlazeRx7]

[quote=STPFAN]Here are 2 damn good boyles dogs:

GR CH RISING STAR'S SPARKY (6XW) (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pedigrees/printPedigree.php?dog_id=21044)
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=21044

and

CH WCC'S KILLIAN (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pedigrees/printPedigree.php?dog_id=37848)
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=37848

killian hasnt produced jack.
gr ch bull hasnt produced jack.
and alot of other good boyles dogs just arnt producing period.
the boyles line isnt packing the % as they once were like the dirty mary and the bolt action and all those other rom dogs.
there is just too much going on in the blood to stay compeitive with that line and no one has been as successful as ronald with those dogs since that time.
from what ive seen and am told, those animals do real funny stuff (especially the heivy hank ones) and have odd personalitys not only in the pit but just in general. they have a prey drive that is out of this world, but the ones ive owned and seen and been around and had have dicusstions about the fellas that have run the line for years will say the same thing. these dogs are off the wall. the kind of dogs you throw in a crate and slam the door behind. real pushy at young age, if there not impressive as young dogs they just dont get any better. anyway, everone has there opinions i suppose.



I have a female off Ch Zebco who is off of Killian to I believe it's Little Roy(female). He's still goin strong and I believe he's showin really nice and should hit GR Ch Status! The one thing that makes me think is the bottom half is Mingman's Stuff. I haven't heard about that breeder so it's iffy to me on that. On another note tho my female is actin really nice! I Plan on bring her back to her top half to linebreed.

[Pit Bull Pride]

My 4mth old pup Five-Oh is a "Boyles/Ablizin" dog....

She's a phenominal dog in my opinion, lol, but I may be biased.

Smart as a whip too.

[JBlazeRx7]

Hey folks once again I'm askin for some HELP with a situation. I have female who is off of WCC's Ch killian to a Mingman's Star. My ? is has anyone heard of Mingman and could they post a ped of this female if you have any! Thanks!:o

[SPFDOGS]

Mingman is a well known dogman from the NE..

[JBlazeRx7]

Thanks SPF. I'm just tryin to get some info on my female is all and I can't find anything!

[Marty]

SPF for your info, I got to meet JBlazeRx7 today and I assure you he's good people :)

He got to meet Lilbit and took some pics that he will be sharing soon ;)

[JBlazeRx7]

Thanks Big M! Hey I can't wait til next spring we DEF need to get that BBQ goin!:D

[Marty]

You got it man, I love to cook out :D

[clmr]

TopDog,
Like any other line, it depends on where you get them from. There's some good Boyle's dogs out there making their mark. Here's one, http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=159187 that's a good producer too. http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=19175 that's a good producer too. Here's another http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=230590 Here's another good performer and producer http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=177618 . Here's another that just started his breeding career http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=187281 . Here's another that did the Boyle's line proud http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=offspring&dog_id=108640 . There's more out there, to include some of the ones on previous posts. Good boyle's bred dogs are out there, there's high percentage producers and high percentage breedings too. I wouldn't pass on a good boyle's bred dog. JBlazeRX7, Killian is bred really well. I do not know how star is bred. But, I would tell you to let the dog make the ped, and not the ped making the dog. Chances are that your dog might end up being a good one.

[TripleJ]

Emmitt and Floyds assissain were two of the best producing Boyles dogs I have seen, C, Floyd is a good friend of mine and he gave me some off assassin (witch is sparkeys brother) those dogs had alot for the table.I owned Ivy also she never turned on untill she was 3 years old but BOY o BOY when she did she was pure hell. Now sparkey was a good dog not great and he produced well. Good boyles dogs are not hard to find If you look in the right place I have neve liked the numan stuff like ringneck and that stuff I just never thought they were that great but some people like them.

[clmr]

TripleJ, we bred to this one http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=224346 and by what I've seen that Newman's Buck trait is very consistent in their offspring. I agree with ya, good Boyles blood is not hard to find, if you know where to look.

[M&M kennel]

I have a boyles/Chinaman and she is a good lil pup at 3months everything she see is prey she Jethro/Jet and i would keep buying dogs from CGD

[STOMPANATO]

real deep game dogs...........
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=216526

[TheVictor22]

Damn I love this thread!!!!!...... I'm Lookin for some Boyles stuf myself. Never even owned a Boyles bred dog and I love em. Can't wait to get one!!! or two or ten!!! :D

[KuyaJames33]

My 4mth old pup Five-Oh is a "Boyles/Ablizin" dog....

She's a phenominal dog in my opinion, lol, but I may be biased.

Smart as a whip too.

Pit Bull Pride are those your kennels on your site?
http://tough-n-tenderkennels.com/default.aspx

According to 50 and D. Woods those aren't your kennels.... thats D. Woods kennel.

Looks like five-oh is a product of a breeding between pups... according to JL those pups are only a year to a year and 1/2 tops.

looks like what you were planning on doing... http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=141121

[TripleJ]

[quote=DEACON ROM;45623]



I have a female off Ch Zebco who is off of Killian to I believe it's Little Roy(female). He's still goin strong and I believe he's showin really nice and should hit GR Ch Status! The one thing that makes me think is the bottom half is Mingman's Stuff. I haven't heard about that breeder so it's iffy to me on that. On another note tho my female is actin really nice! I Plan on bring her back to her top half to linebreed.
Dont fret! Bro Mingman dogs are very good as good as any. And they mesh well with most blood. your dog most likely is bred better than you think. J

[kb kennles]

boyels has done more in the uk and ni than usa

[Pit Bull Pride]

Lmao...lemme give ya some info... D. Wood is James' fam'......
that explains his kennel set up pic on our site. And since people were all in the site all interested, you'll see that we have a few of "PawPaw"s dogs (D. Wood) listed for him. As for Five-Oh? She's 6mths old man, her sire is JJ and her dam is Dolly BOTH owned by D. Wood. (and neither of them are 'pups' either.) Any more concerns? I can clarify. Dude, for real.........as for that ped idea you posted the link to......that male pup is a PUPPY, as is Five-Oh, that is for a breeding IDEA DOWN THE ROAD when the time is right. Um, wasn't plannin breedin a 12wk old male to a 6mth old female, lmFao.
Anything else I must clarify for inquiring minds? I'd be more than happy to.....i'm just full on info.....So feel free to contact US as well.


Pit Bull Pride are those your kennels on your site?
http://tough-n-tenderkennels.com/default.aspx

According to 50 and D. Woods those aren't your kennels.... thats D. Woods kennel.

Looks like five-oh is a product of a breeding between pups... according to JL those pups are only a year to a year and 1/2 tops.

looks like what you were planning on doing... http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=141121

[Yard Boy]

Pit Bull Pride are those your kennels on your site?
http://tough-n-tenderkennels.com/default.aspx

According to 50 and D. Woods those aren't your kennels.... thats D. Woods kennel.

Looks like five-oh is a product of a breeding between pups... according to JL those pups are only a year to a year and 1/2 tops.

looks like what you were planning on doing... http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=141121


So that "I" can abide by the rules here, how about you drive my traffic count up some more and go to my site to get my phone number so you can call and ask me any assumptions you have the desire to have answered . Or text me your number and I'll call you and anyone else interested on 3-way. IF you paid half attention to MY site, you would have POSSIBLY put 2 and 2 together and realised that if 50 told you that is D.Woods kennel set-up on MY site and that there are dog's registered and named as D.Wood's...Then the average would have comprehended that OBVIOUSLY there is some sort of connection there. My CELL PHONE numbers posted on my site, you called everyone else concerning ME...Call me, not JL, not MD not JL....JAMES! And your concerned with a pedigree that was posted so the young gun from South Florida who recently acquired a JL product could see what the ped would look like "IF" that breeding took place. Since you done so much investigatin'...Search a lil deeper and you'll find the fella who recently acquired that pup you're so concerned about. Call him and he'll tell ya what I just did. As far as beefin with you goes, that ain't even my style man....So anything else, I'd appreciate it if you give me the same respect you gave everyone else. Ain't nothing to hide here brother! OBVIOUSLY!

[M&M kennel]

I Love the boyles stuff JETHRO IS A GREAT BOYLES DOG AND A PRODUCER

[bohawg00]

More important than the bloodline is where you get the bloodline from. Could mean a huge difference.

[claymore]

I Love the boyles stuff JETHRO IS A GREAT BOYLES DOG AND A PRODUCER

I've got one on the way right now from him, can't wait!!

[AGK]

Tell your cousin that his boyles dogs might not have been very good but the bloodline itself is a definite contender and it blends into other blood well.

[DOwho???]

Ive got a boyles brood bitch off of addison's chucky(brother to ch batman, ch superman, ch cortez, ch etc...) she is a nice bulldog especially for brood stock. id just say be careful where you get these dogs from. overall i like the blood but i like my others better, just my preference...
From the right person you cant go wrong with the boyles line..

[JBlazeRx7]

TopDog,
Like any other line, it depends on where you get them from. There's some good Boyle's dogs out there making their mark. Here's one, http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=159187 that's a good producer too. http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=19175 that's a good producer too. Here's another http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=230590 Here's another good performer and producer http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=177618 . Here's another that just started his breeding career http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=187281 . Here's another that did the Boyle's line proud http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=offspring&dog_id=108640 . There's more out there, to include some of the ones on previous posts. Good boyle's bred dogs are out there, there's high percentage producers and high percentage breedings too. I wouldn't pass on a good boyle's bred dog. JBlazeRX7, Killian is bred really well. I do not know how star is bred. But, I would tell you to let the dog make the ped, and not the ped making the dog. Chances are that your dog might end up being a good one.

Thanks clmr I've always let the dog's make the ped.

[JBlazeRx7]

Has anyone heard of the Little Roy or Lil Roy female I'm talking about? HELP!

[AGK]

You want a good, honest oppinion on the boyles bloodline look up an interview with S.T.P.

[hatcherboy85]

i know this might sound as a stupid question, but what do good boyles dog bring to the table. once again i know that might be a stupid question but i have no experience with that line with myself or anyone else i know?

[AGK]

From the right people they bring it all to the table. We have had good success with the boyles line, and it crosses well with most of the top lines out there. We just did a breeding with a pure boyles bitch bred to a mayday/dragonlady bred male. Were expecting dogs casted from brimstone from hell in this breeding. Can't wait.....................

[STPFAN]

Like all bloodlines you get good and bad....but the good ones bring a well-rounded dog to the show/pull. Gameness, mouth, drive, ability, intellingence and durability!

YIS

[SMOKIN HEMI]

Love Boyles...http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=119696

[Big'un]

Never owned a Boyles dog much less seen one, not all that common out here, anyway my partner brought this bitch to the yard :http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=287271 and we bred her to our stud :http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=191494 , them pups are 7 months old and my smile gets a little wider every day.

I have no experience with this line what so ever, but I'm taking a small interest in it now that I have seen the potential in this little female.. thinking of maybe trying to get her bred to another tight Boyles male to hang on to this blood... who knows .. right now it's all just "maybe's and what if's" .

[Cobra kennel]

Hello.

Please for more information about WCC'S CH Killian

Contact: ales.cuma @ seznam.cz

http://www.pitbull-olomucany.eu/cs/nasi-psi/shelly/

[lrk]

Id love to find some good boyles blood out this way. doesnt seem like it as readily available here? Or I am not looking in the right direction?:confused:

[fotte']

I've got an 11 month old Boyles dog with some Gonner thrown in and she is hella Firey and looks to becoming "a really good dog" :D only time will tell...

[AGK]

alot of other good boyles dogs just arnt producing period.
the boyles line isnt packing the % as they once were like the dirty mary

Not sure where your getting that info from but I asure you it's not accurate, plenty of dogs have been produced and are producing down from the boyles line.
Jethro made R.O.M just last year he's just one of the more popular ones that come to mind.

there is just too much going on in the blood to stay compeitive with that line and no one has been as successful as ronald with those dogs since that time.

Lol, well then Sir, I have some prime land in New Orleans I would love to show you:rolleyes: There are plenty of people out there as there, is with many other lines, that have been started by other people, that are breeding the dogs better dogs R.B currently is.

from what ive seen and am told, those animals do real funny stuff (especially the heivy hank ones) and have odd personalitys not only in the pit but just in general. they have a prey drive that is out of this world, but the ones ive owned and seen and been around and had have dicusstions about the fellas that have run the line for years will say the same thing. these dogs are off the wall. the kind of dogs you throw in a crate and slam the door behind. real pushy at young age,

if there not impressive as young dogs they just dont get any better.
The majority of the ones I either have, know people with, or talk with other people about have, all said the same thing, very late starters I have females that wern't HOT untill they were 3 or older as well as having a males that come out the womb HOT. I think it just depends on who you talk to and where you get your dogs from, I know manypeople with entire yards full of boyles bred dogs that would prove this phrase to be wrong. as with anyline you can say all those things about any other line as well, in the end you just have to know the right people to get the right stuff....

anyway, everone has there opinions i suppose.

lol...my parents use to always tell me opinions are like assholes, everyones got one.....lol

[GAS HOUSE KENNELS]

I have a yard full myself and can tell you that i prefer this line of dogs over any other that i have !!!!

[lrk]

Why is that GASHOUSE? What do they have that make them special in your eyes? Like i said earlier it doesnt seem as if they are as readily available where i live or maybe im not in the know on those dogs?? But thry do tickle my fancy if you will. If you would like hit me in PM with your response.

[GAS HOUSE KENNELS]

Check PM IRK

[mick73]

had a couple boyles bitches down this way one wasnt shown at all the other a friend owned after quantine we were concerned but after she settled in boy so had some mouth

[gorilla]

where is the good queen of hearts blood?

[RR3000]

some say boyles, some say bolio i prefer to call them bolio but either way i do think that they are some good dogs

[GAS HOUSE KENNELS]

I am with you on that RR

[peppapig]

from the boyles stuff that ive been gave notice of from friends they have been game things no doubt...but admittingly...they were not pure boyles....some amount of other blood was in there...only one i know of personally was a game plodder...not much zip to her....

[Cobra kennel]

Hello.
Thank you very much for your reply and your opinion....
Jana