Anyone have a 1 year old stud?

[D.R KING]

I would love to see how your pup proved himself worthy of being bred at such a young age. But It seems I found one, a 1 year old stud worthy of being bred!!!
Great, when my pup kain gets hair on his balls I'll place him up for stud @ 7 months....


http://www.gamestarterkennels.com/wst_page2.html

[searkkennels]

i agree that is crazy.

[The Watcher]

it's funny how that person alters all thier pics........
^^^stretchVVV <---stretch--->
LOL, very funny!

[searkkennels]

lol, that is funny

[D.R KING]

lol, that is funny
No whats funny is the name of the kennel "gamestarter..." I've never seen a ped like his before, does anyone know the dogs, could they be show dogs?

[The Watcher]

lol@D.RKing^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
they should call themselves "gettingstarted KNLS"
ya think they are tryin' to compensate for som'em???

[searkkennels]

i have heard of that thomasons stuff before. i am not sure what it goes back into or if its straight apbt it could have some staff in it. but we used to have a female off some of that loverboy stuff like itn that ped. now listen she was given to us and was a pretty pretty dog so my friends wife liked her so she kept her. then when she was about 2 she started to weight pull. man that old bitch took out alot of good ones. i was like damn. so we let her weight pull against a blackman female we had and she jus didn't have what it took. but don't get me wrong she would of been someones #1 weight puller in different hands.so i don't know about that stuff except for that bitch i had named diamond. anyway jus thought i would share what i knew about the blood. not much.
lol

[440rider]

nice dog kennels! not sure how well that 14 gauge welded fencing will hold some dogs though.

[TxDogger]

Are you kidding me. IN my opinion you shouldn't even be "touching" a dog that is only a year old much less breeding him..... Call um Startin2early kennels

[O.D.]

Lol Good One Tx. I Do Know Of A Prominent Guy Running The Bolio Blood That Does Breed Them Between 12 And 15 Months, Stating That He Knows The Characeristics Of The Stuff He Is Running So He Feels Comfortable Doing This. He Sells Alot Of Dogs Too, And His Percentages With Good Ones Ain't Too Bad. What Do People Think Of This?

[D.R KING]

Lol Good One Tx. I Do Know Of A Prominent Guy Running The Bolio Blood That Does Breed Them Between 12 And 15 Months, Stating That He Knows The Characeristics Of The Stuff He Is Running So He Feels Comfortable Doing This. He Sells Alot Of Dogs Too, And His Percentages With Good Ones Ain't Too Bad. What Do People Think Of This?
sounds like a peddler...12-15 months?

[O.D.]

sounds like a peddler...12-15 months?YEAH. HE BASES HIS ACTIONS ON PROVEN DOGS THAT HE HAS PUT OUT IN THE PAST WOULDN'T DO IT MYSELF BUT SEEMS EVERYBODY GOT THEY OWN PHILSOPHY ABOUT THE GREAT PRINCIPLES OF BREEDING. ALOT OF OLDER BREEDERS DO IT SOME WITH YOUNG MALES, BUT I THINK YOUNG FEMALES IS MORE COMMON. NOT ABSOLUTELY SURE THOUGH.

[D.R KING]

YEAH. HE BASES HIS ACTIONS ON PROVEN DOGS THAT HE HAS PUT OUT IN THE PAST WOULDN'T DO IT MYSELF BUT SEEMS EVERYBODY GOT THEY OWN PHILSOPHY ABOUT THE GREAT PRINCIPLES OF BREEDING. ALOT OF OLDER BREEDERS DO IT SOME WITH YOUNG MALES, BUT I THINK YOUNG FEMALES IS MORE COMMON. NOT ABSOLUTELY SURE THOUGH.
I have seen some sites were some breeders breed the younger females, but the males are like 3+ years most of time. Come on, at 1 year the dog was stilla pup, chinaman wasnt bred until he was 7 am i right? People dont breed like they used to no more...

[SLICK WILLIE]

500.00 for stud to that dog. Hell! he must have some fast growing pups to be able to see the finished product at its best. I pay that stud fee and he gives me curs! I'm bashing that guy and his dogs but only a fool would breed that way. You breed it to your own yard and look hard.

[O.D.]

You Would Be Suprised At Some Of The Tactics Of So Called Established Breeders. The Argument Some Give Is That After Breeding For A Certain Period Of Time You Know What To Expect And What To Look For. Now Don't Get Me Wrong, While I Haven't Seen Any One Established Breeding Puppies Together, I Have Seen Younger Dogs Of Both Sexes Used In Breeding Programs Where The Belief Was That The Blood Would Speak For Itself Based On The Years Of Breeding Done With That Line. Am I Alone In This? Again, I Am Not Condeming Or Condoning It. Just Throwing It Out There.

[thablacksheep]

Lol Good One Tx. I Do Know Of A Prominent Guy Running The Bolio Blood That Does Breed Them Between 12 And 15 Months, Stating That He Knows The Characeristics Of The Stuff He Is Running So He Feels Comfortable Doing This. He Sells Alot Of Dogs Too, And His Percentages With Good Ones Ain't Too Bad. What Do People Think Of This?I myself dont have any experience with breeding by paper through a particular family but a wise man once said that if your start a program from a pure family that has been proven, that if you breed by paper (considering you have great knowledge with that particular pure family) 20 years down the road the family would be stronger, and thats without touching any of the dogs. Now it's obvious that this style of breeding cant be done by just anyone. It takes a lot of knowledge, years, and patience to accomplish this. Just my 2 cents.

[thablacksheep]

Oh, and that wise man is D.M.

[O.D.]

I myself dont have any experience with breeding by paper through a particular family. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT BREEDING BY PAPER. I AM REFERRRING TO THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN BREEDING BETWEEN 15-20+ YRS WHO FEEL THAT THEY KNOW THE QUALITY AND TRAITS OF WHAT THEY BREED WELL ENOUGH TO SKIP SOME STEPS THAT MIGHT BE SEEN AS MANDATORY FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE NOT BEEN STICKING DOGS TOGETHER THAT LONG. Now it's obvious that this style of breeding cant be done by just anyone. It takes a lot of knowledge, years, and patience to accomplish this. I THINK THIS WOULD RELATE MORE TO WHAT I AM ASKING, AND HAS ACTUALLY BEEN SAID BY SOME.

[thablacksheep]

I gotcha O.D. I guess that by me saying paper breeding some may think that its possible to start off with a pure proven strain, and then maintain that desired trait that it's family is known for by just breeding back into that stock on pedigree work alone.

I AM REFERRRING TO THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN BREEDING BETWEEN 15-20+ YRS WHO FEEL THAT THEY KNOW THE QUALITY AND TRAITS OF WHAT THEY BREED
I see where your coming from, and I do know a few people that take this approach in their program. Just letting you know that I myself am familiar with this tactic.

[chainsoff]

i have heard of that thomasons stuff before. i am not sure what it goes back into or if its straight apbt it could have some staff in it. A couple were in my shop the other day. They said they had some Thomason stuff, and that it goes back to the Greyline stuff.

[searkkennels]

oh ok, like i said she was a good dog. but not fastlane material.

[TopDog]

I believe you really dont know what you got in a one year old dog when it get older you might turn up not liking the dogs character.

[nappydawg]

Blade at 1 year - 70lbs
Isaac's "Blade" is the best example of and American Pit Bull Terrier.


wait i thought that they weren't supposed to be over 60 lbs hmmm well guess he knows it all after all 1 yr and at stud hell must be a good one lol money hungry people

[Whiskey Bay]

nice dog kennels! not sure how well that 14 gauge welded fencing will hold some dogs though.
I have to agree there.Chain link doesn't hold Blue or one of my females in.How the hell is 2X4 welded wire going to?That's what my husband uses on his chicken pens and fly pens.Lol.Look at the chicken pens:

[HCK]

Well atleast these people are being honest. Check out their breedings page...It says, "pups breeding". LMAO

[Scotsman]

I also have a hard time believing that dog is 70lbs. Well that kid will probably never learn. Just trying to make a quick buck. I bet if you asked if the dog has proven its self he'll probably tell you he is retired.

[PowersPitts]

i believe that no matter what you breed you will never know the outcome untill it has been tested

[PowersPitts]

i have a 70lb. dog and he is twice that dog if not three of that dog.
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[D.R KING]

i have a 70lb. dog and he is twice that dog if not three of that dog.
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Must be a big boy....GOD

[HBK]

I know the people at the kennel mentioned here.

They don't do anything with their dogs at all, in any kind of way. Just bought to "breed"

Let it be known that I in no way condone this.

[chainsoff]

These people are idiots, They got pretty defensive, when I emailed and asked about their dogs. Here was their response to my question regarding theis 1 yr old stud's worth of breeding. I guess we should all just rely on the idea, "Hey, if he's old enough, hell, let's just start breeding. Who cares if his traits will better the line, GIVE ME THE MONEY!" Such pathetic people shouldn't own the dogs, much less breed them.



ok, we obviously don't share the same ideas about our dogs. That's fine we never will... as for how are Blade has prove he is worthy of breeding. He was checked over by our vet and was given an overall health check. A dog can be ready for breeding at 6 to 8 months or when they show signs of full breeding activity. Blade is accually a year and half and has been ready since 9 months but we chose to wait till he was 1 year. but why i'm i explaining myself to you. We work very closely we a vet and have for several years. All, our research is accually justified and TRUE... not just what sounds good!
That's all i'll say ...


Thanks for the support!

Mitzi and Adam Merino
Owners

[searkkennels]

6 months old LMAO

[Scotsman]

Man, this guy should go start wrecking a different breed and leave ours alone. People like him really piss me off.

[Whiskey Bay]

ok, we obviously don't share the same ideas about our dogs. That's fine we never will... as for how are Blade has prove he is worthy of breeding. He was checked over by our vet and was given an overall health check. A dog can be ready for breeding at 6 to 8 months or when they show signs of full breeding activity. Blade is accually a year and half and has been ready since 9 months but we chose to wait till he was 1 year. but why i'm i explaining myself to you. We work very closely we a vet and have for several years. All, our research is accually justified and TRUE... not just what sounds good!
That's all i'll say ...

WHAT????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[14rock]

So he feels that because they are healthy enough to be bred they should? Sure.....we dont have enough unwanted dogs in the shelters....why not? Greedy moron. Sure my only bulldog right now is healthy too, and he has a great tempermant, looks, and everyone loves him. Also, money is tight and I will never get out of him what we put in. Does that mean that Im justified in breeding him? HELL NO! I wont continute to lead to the problem of shelter dogs unless he shows me something the majority of dogs out there dont have, and he will likely throw it into his offspring.

[Bluepit50]

Wow, i'm glad that since i've started with the pitbull breed that i've come here for my knowledge and advice. I could have become someone who would actually agree with them if I were'nt shown the truths about the breed from here. I owe my true learning from this site and in return will help others when I can now and in the future. There is alot to learn of bulldog breeds and responsible breeding of dogs. I can't believe what so many people out there believe, it's amazing. Well i'm happy to say that I am very open minded with people's advice in anything in life, and because of this I hope to always learn the truth from the people who know about the area in which is being discussed.

I give props to those here who are knowledgable and who help others here. While some other members just come here to start fights, those ones have nothing positive to offer for the breed or to anyone here, I wish they would be culled out of here so everyone can continue learning peacefully.

[My_Pit_Dixie]

Glad to be here learing from the ones that know what there doing. From what i gather they know as much about breeding as I do. Jack S*%T. That is why I have all my dogs fixed. My baby is not about the money i could get out of pups, but the love i get from her.

[Whiskey Bay]

A dog can be ready for breeding at 6 to 8 months or when they show signs of full breeding activity.

Well hell,In that case,I have a 8mos a 7 mos and two 6month olds.What the hell am I waiting for?Surely they have proven that because they eat,sleep,and shit they are proven enough to breed.

[D.R KING]

These people are idiots, They got pretty defensive, when I emailed and asked about their dogs. Here was their response to my question regarding theis 1 yr old stud's worth of breeding. I guess we should all just rely on the idea, "Hey, if he's old enough, hell, let's just start breeding. Who cares if his traits will better the line, GIVE ME THE MONEY!" Such pathetic people shouldn't own the dogs, much less breed them.
ignorance is bliss

[D.R KING]

And on a totally different note, I have issues with people who can't spell or use correct grammer on their sites or in correspondence with potential customers. How do they feel they have qualified for dog breeding?
Lmao, hmm yes, but lets keep to the topic on hand....good one though

[Marty]

These people are idiots, They got pretty defensive, when I emailed and asked about their dogs. Here was their response to my question regarding theis 1 yr old stud's worth of breeding. I guess we should all just rely on the idea, "Hey, if he's old enough, hell, let's just start breeding. Who cares if his traits will better the line, GIVE ME THE MONEY!" Such pathetic people shouldn't own the dogs, much less breed them.OK, this is why we do not sell dogs on this site or get any stud fee', we will do our best to weed out the puppy peddling,if you are a dog-man you dont need to post puppys for sell you already know where their going anyway.:confused: