Which bloodline is good for me???

[TigerStripe15]

Well I want to apoligize for my previouse post. I didnt mean for it to get out of hand, but I really am waitng on the papers I just got ahold of the guy we bought her from since we just moved back in to town they should be here soon..

But I am lookin to start breeding "PUREBREED" pitbulls

plus I think dixie wants a freind to play with. she sees other dogs walk up and down the street and she wines wanting to play.

but there seems to be alot of knowledge on this board. so I need some advice, if Yall dont mind

I am lookin for a bloodline that is know for

A.) High Prey Drive
B.) Intelligence
C.) Big Head, Muscular Chest and Shoulders
D.) Loving and Friendly
E.) Weight pullers
F.) All Around Huge
G.) I dont know if this is th eright time for this but here it goes
I want a Pitbull bloodline know for "GAMENESS"

which bloodline do u think is for me?


thanks for replying

[Pit Blldg]

If you want a big dog with prey drive and a big head consider a performance bred presa canario, dogo argentino, an american bulldog, or any other performance bred mastiff type of a dog. (If you want a huge dog with a huge head go for the show/pet versions) A bandogge from a working kennel bred on 1/4 neo, 1/4 dane, 1/2 pit, is also a great choice. Get a dog from someone who works them as catch dogs. You will then have a big (hopefully) intellegent dog with prey drive (amount depending on the pup you pick).

From what you are describing it seems to me that you would be happier with one of the above listed breeds instead of a pit. Few words of caution - a big powerfull dog w/lots of prey drive may not be a good choice for a first working dog or for a house pet. So I am assuming you have been around dogs long enough to know what you are getting into with a big high drive (dominant) dog. Also please don't breed the dog after you get it.

[TigerStripe15]

From what you are describing it seems to me that you would be happier with one of the above listed breeds instead of a pit. Few words of caution - a big powerfull dog w/lots of prey drive may not be a good choice for a first working dog or for a house pet. So I am assuming you have been around dogs long enough to know what you are getting into with a big high drive (dominant) dog. Also please don't breed the dog after you get it.

I agree with this but I didnt mean big dog as in 90 plus I meant a big pit

50+ or so "big pit" with gameness, by high prey drive I mean likes to play,
weight pull, springpole etc etc If u whould tell me the true defintion of prey drive cuz maybe I have the wrong Idea srry for the ingornace

[Pit Blldg]

If u whould tell me the true defintion of prey drive cuz maybe I have the wrong Idea srry for the ingornace
There are no bad questions, only stupid answers (i hope mine is not one of them) Fast moving objects such as skateboards, bikes, motorbikes, or 'prey' such as cats, (with some) dogs, hogs, other animals (specially if they are moving) can trigger a dogs prey drive, i.e. they want to go and catch their prey (thats why you should generally not run from a dog). The degree with which dogs want to go 'hunt and catch' their 'prey' depends on the breeding (working stock will generally have higher prey drive than show/pet quality), socialization, and training/obedience. For example a high prey drive dog will rip your arm out of its socket trying to get at a cat that just crossed a street, a low prey drive dog may just ignore it. So thats prey drive in a nutshell. If you just want a house pet and live in an urban setting a high prey drive dog may not be a good choice.

[zombie106]

Prey drive generally means (as I understand it), they have a desire to chase smaller/prey looking animals (this could be wild animals, other dogs, etc.).

[miakoda]

to my dogs squirrels, opossum, racoons, kitties, yorkies, etc. are all fair game! I keep trying to tell the neighbors to keep their cats up, but one day they're gonna dart in front of us for the last time (while I'm walking my dogs on a leash). I can't have anyting under 25lbs in my house. Of course I have a female that thinks all other females are also fair game. She plays by herself or with me & my husband.;)

[TigerStripe15]

pit bllg and zombie106 and miakoda
Thank u for tellin me what prey drive is I apprecite it. that is the kind of dog I want to breed one with a high prey drive. what blood lines are know to have this?? my friend has a dog named petey his bloodline is jeep/chinaman and he goes after squirrels and birds all the time but he is a very nice dog this is what I want but not
nessacarly jeep/chinaman

[chainsoff]

What is your reason for wanting to breed? I don't intend to offend you. I'm just curious.

[TigerStripe15]

to Improve the breed. It is not at all about the money just the breed. thats why I am lookin for a good bloodline

[rocksteady]

but if you want a playmate for your other dog and you are looking for "gameness" I think you really need to reconsider ...

Female APBTs while they may get along with a male they grow up with suddenly change their tune when its breeding time or they are pregnant. Amny females kept as housedogs also tend to get attached and possessive (not towards people but other dogs)

And just because a gamebred dog gets along with others as a puppy thats no indication that dog will get along as it matures. one day everyhting is fine the next minute you have 2 battleing dogs on your hands ..
but it is said that a good game bred dog will not fight other breeds.. and I've found that to be true sometimes. (as long as that other dog doesnt get in its space lol)

a big game bred high prey driven dog is alot of dog to handle ... and sometimes all the training in the world will not stop it from getting what it wants.

The dog in my avatar is a 75 pound game dog.. but he's generally really laid back and ignors other dogs to a degree (as long as they dont come in the chain space or go after him first) He is very good with pups but after a certain age forget it and do not let any kitties in the yard lol If it wasnt for his size he would be the perfect dog.. I myself dont care for the bigger dogs but Clyde wasnt bred to be that big..and hes such a great dog.. so when it comes to bigger dogs I do know what I'm talking about :)

[Pit Blldg]

a big game bred high prey driven dog is alot of dog to handle :)
True. I had a high drive 57lb male who recently died. A great dog but a very difficult dog to keep. High drive = lots of responsibility.

[Saiyagin]

Try looking into Gambler's Gr Ch Virgil bloodline they have high prey drive and are really smart intellegent dogs.

[smiledogg]

Dude!! One Dawg At A Time. You May Wanna Give It A Minute Because You Sound Like A Novice Who Already Has His Hands Full...do Some Research And Youll Need Some Time For Trial And Error...two Pit Pups And A Novice Owner Can Be A Disaster..wait A Few Months And Reevaluate Your Situation..before You Get In Over Your Head..wait Before You Start Even Thinking About Breeding Give Your Female A Chance To Bond ..you Be Her Playmate...ask Yourself After 6 Months Or So If You Can Even Handle A Second Cause Them Females The 1st Time Around Can Be Some Work..especially If She Is Bred From Some Serious Blood

[TigerStripe15]

Dude!! One Dawg At A Time. You May Wanna Give It A Minute Because You Sound Like A Novice Who Already Has His Hands Full...do Some Research And Youll Need Some Time For Trial And Error...two Pit Pups And A Novice Owner Can Be A Disaster..wait A Few Months And Reevaluate Your Situation..before You Get In Over Your Head..wait Before You Start Even Thinking About Breeding Give Your Female A Chance To Bond ..you Be Her Playmate...ask Yourself After 6 Months Or So If You Can Even Handle A Second Cause Them Females The 1st Time Around Can Be Some Work..especially If She Is Bred From Some Serious Blood

were did the two pups come from???

I already have my gurl dixie shes 2 yrs old and not hard t otake care of but of course she aint no game-dog neither just a house pet. I was lookin for a gamebred male to buy then later on about a year or two maybe more if I have decied I can handle it get a gamebred female and breed but unless I can get a place with more space I am not going to breed.

so what I am lookin for is a GAME male from a good bloodline
which is why I was askin whats a good gamebreed bloodline?

srry for the confusin

thanks

[lambchop11078]

How are you planning to improve the breed? Just because you bought a pup with a nice pedigree doesn't necessary mean it's worthy of breeding. Most people who breed their dogs compete them. Some compete in hog catching, weight pulling, agility, conformance, obedience, etc. And only the ones that excell are bred while the ones that fail are culled.

From the pictures that were posted of Dixie, you appear to be of high school age. Do you have a lot of time to spend with 2 dogs? If you do decide to breed your dog, are you going to screen potential buyers and make sure the dogs go to good homes instead of just giving them away. Are you willing to bring all the pups to the vet for checkups? I hope you're not in it to make some money because most of the time, you break even or lose money unless you're willing to charge $5000 for a pup.

Also from the description of what you're looking for:

A.) High Prey Drive
B.) Intelligence
C.) Big Head, Muscular Chest and Shoulders
D.) Loving and Friendly
E.) Weight pullers
F.) All Around Huge
G.) I dont know if this is the right time for this but here it goes
I want a Pitbull bloodline know for "GAMENESS

Items A, B, C, D, E, and F fit an AmStaff.

[TigerStripe15]

well lambchop11078

the breeding part is not at all decided yet it was just a thaught not that serious. I am lookin for a game male. I am thinking about weight pulling but first I have to get some books and read up on it. I go to mississippi every year to do some hunting usally rabbit,squirrl,deer we are looking to start hog hunting soon and my be we can try the dog out when I buy one as soon as I decide on a bloodline. but Im going to try my future male out as a rabbit dog. and see how that goes. but chances are like I said if we dont get more space the breeding wont happen. plus I am going to wait on a steady income before I even attempt to get deep into the sceen

thanks for the reply

[JC-Pitbulls]

Pitbull = rabbit dog :confused: Better hope he dont catch the rabbit

[TigerStripe15]

LOL JC that crossed my mind many times

[SFK]

If you have no experience with gamedogs i would definately not start out with a catchweight male! I have 35 # gyps that are more than a handful, Can you imagine cuttin your teeth on a hard drivin' 60# male? Take your time. Don't worry to much about this bloodline or that one. Go to some shows, ADBA, AADR, or UKC in your area & get familiar with the different dogs you see. That's a good way to check out a bunch of different families all in one place. Fellowship with other fanciers in your area. Good people will point you in the right direction.

[TigerStripe15]

Is there anyway to find fanciers in my area over the web?

Any good sites?

[TigerStripe15]

thanks for the advice ill try to find someone around here to teach me before I get into the gamedogs

thanks for the advice everyone

[DEACON ROM]

experience is a teacher ranked next to none.

[houstonapbt]

well lambchop11078

the breeding part is not at all decided yet it was just a thaught not that serious. I am lookin for a game male. I am thinking about weight pulling but first I have to get some books and read up on it. I go to mississippi every year to do some hunting usally rabbit,squirrl,deer we are looking to start hog hunting soon and my be we can try the dog out when I buy one as soon as I decide on a bloodline. but Im going to try my future male out as a rabbit dog. and see how that goes. but chances are like I said if we dont get more space the breeding wont happen. plus I am going to wait on a steady income before I even attempt to get deep into the sceen

thanks for the replySo, if you do get that space you're going to breed? What's really important is what you are going to do with your future dogs. How exactly do you plan on proving them worthy of breeding? Just because you have a pretty dog with a pretty pedigree doesn't mean he's worth breeding. My best advice to you is to do much more studying of the breed, talk to as many knowledgeable people as you can and of course, visit this board often and learn a thing or two.;)Many people study and learn as much as possible about the dog they are wanting to get. After accumilating as much knowledge they can, then and only then do they seek to buy a dog that fits their needs.;)

[Pit Blldg]

Can you imagine cuttin your teeth on a hard drivin' 60# male? Take your time.
Yes. I did that and would not recommend it to anyone. All the reading, advice, and research don't prepare you for a life in a crowded city with a 60lb high drive knucklehead. So please as SFK said, take your time.

[Ted]

well i think sfk is right for the most but i have a male that is 64 pounds and not to hard to handle but i believe every dog is there own self and some little dogs can be a handful too, but that is just my thoughts.

[Pluto's Princess]

to Improve the breed. It is not at all about the money just the breed. thats why I am lookin for a good bloodline you should really be careful and know what you are doing breeding your "gamedog". my male is game bred, and he gets excited around other dogs as well, but that doesn't mean he wants a roomate! i am interested in breeding as well, so don't think i'm shutting you down, but you really need to be educated and responsible to take on a task like breeding. i am an animal science major, so before i jump in the deep end i want to have my swim lessons. i respect wanting to better the breed, just make sure that is what you are doing with your dogs. :)

[buddylee04]

if u want a dog with what u listed get a south african boerboel they are big muscular big heads and have a high prey drive trust me i own a boerboel