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gotta12v
03-17-2009, 12:25 AM
looking for some info on tants yellow.

anyone got anything carring this heavily? how do you like it?
good souce to look for this line? what lines does this work well with crossed?

thanks




Bobby Rooster
03-17-2009, 02:37 AM
He was a GrCh. When bred back to his sister and inbred he produced producers and winners..

I only have one dog that has tants travis as his dam's sire.

The blood is everywhere in the carolina's and thru out the south. I think its that way for a reason and not just because.

The heavy inbred stock crosses well with the Bolio -patrick/Buck dogs real good as well as some Eli blood and carver blood also...

Most times good dogs cross good with good dogs.. Most times... Its yer best bet in most cases IMHO

JBlazeRx7
03-17-2009, 08:28 AM
Hey we got that stuff up here in the Northeast as well. Damn I don't even know where to begin with the crosses that are up here. ;) It's Def a good start!

oldslowblue
03-18-2009, 08:40 AM
looking for some info on tants yellow.

anyone got anything carring this heavily? how do you like it?
good souce to look for this line? what lines does this work well with crossed?

thanks

It's true. You find more of the Jocko bred stuff in the south, because those dogs came from south carolina. I've been breeding dogs for 17 years now, serious in the last 10. I've had every blood out there just about. Jeep/Chinaman/Rascal/Tab/Zebo/ from B-Line's Cowboy, to midnight Cowboy. Thing is, takes alot of experience and knowledge to successfully run the other bloods. It wasn't until I started investing in the redboy Jocko dogs, I really got what I was looking for. Very good, smart dogs and produce when bred back to just about anything. PIK has some good blood out of it, which all comes down from the Godfather of Redboy/Jocko dogs, Tant. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they are the best bred dogs out there, but definately good for a novice breeder. The possibilities are endless. The tighter rbj dogs throw bigger dogs pending the pedigree. I've had 60 lb'ers easy. And also, it seems when you line/in breed, the results get better, unlike your common eli stuff. The most proven of the crosses may be the Bolio/Tombstone in which produced dogs like Lukane and so on, but don't limit it. Having much success crossing back into the Jeep/Tab/and Rascal blood. Basically all I run now. Redboy/Rascal/Jeep/Jocko. As a matter of fact, this is my camp's next breeding. We expect big things even with only a 1/4 out of the RBJ. But again, if you can get past the size, never over look a gud bred RBJ! http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=306387

gotta12v
03-18-2009, 11:55 PM
thanks very much, however a 60 lber is alot bigger than what im looking for. are there any proven crosses youve used that throw smaller dogs? around the mid 40's

cutt
03-19-2009, 12:16 AM
indeed they throw some on the heavy side but none the less some great ones.

heres what we have
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=146469

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=215156

and when crossed to some jeep and splash of rascalhttp://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=215159

HighRiskKennels
03-19-2009, 12:48 AM
Tant brought the best to the table when he come to eat anything you get off of Yellow Buy it that shit will stop anybullshit thats not 1000% determined, Take it to the Bank!

oldslowblue
03-19-2009, 07:44 AM
indeed they throw some on the heavy side but none the less some great ones.

heres what we have
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=146469

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=215156

and when crossed to some jeep and splash of rascalhttp://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=215159

Well bred dogs. How much of the RBJ does your yard consist of? It would've been an honor to back one of those bitches up to Fatty Fat MAN. Think this will be his last breeding. You overall impressed as well w/the RBJ. P.m. me guy, you got some gud stuff there. I'd like to show you what I have also. Do you do the redboy dogs to? My lil feller at 6 months, he's alot Fatter now. Like Boomer, lol. http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=306380

JBlazeRx7
03-19-2009, 08:49 AM
Well I've been gettin my Knl back on track. I'm gettin a little one outta this breeding http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=306267 soon that is gonna be something else! ;) I do like the RB/Jeep/Jocko crossed with some tombstone, some on the big side but it's all good in this circle. :D

STPFAN
03-19-2009, 08:52 AM
Well I've been gettin my Knl back on track. I'm gettin a little one outta this breeding http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=306267 soon that is gonna be something else! ;) I do like the RB/Jeep/Jocko crossed with some tombstone, some on the big side but it's all good in this circle. :D

Very nice breeding there...good luck with that there!

YIS

JBlazeRx7
03-19-2009, 08:59 AM
Thanks STPFAN! That's gonna be nice one hopefully!:D

TripleJ
03-19-2009, 10:03 AM
Tant brought the best to the table when he come to eat anything you get off of Yellow Buy it that shit will stop anybullshit thats not 1000% determined, Take it to the Bank!
Ok I am going to bust some bubbles. First I have went to tants yard and bought dogs I have tried that blood just about every way it can go I owned partnership in dog with people that came off his yard. And only two dog we got off that stuff I would say were very good and they were 50/50 cross with some old Clouse blood. I am not saying that you wont get good dogs off that but dont belive the hype! they are no better than any thing else. and I dont think they are at all the silver bullet and I have seen a shit load. J

oldslowblue
03-19-2009, 10:28 AM
Ok I am going to bust some bubbles. First I have went to tants yard and bought dogs I have tried that blood just about every way it can go I owned partnership in dog with people that came off his yard. And only two dog we got off that stuff I would say were very good and they were 50/50 cross with some old Clouse blood. I am not saying that you wont get good dogs off that but dont belive the hype! they are no better than any thing else. and I dont think they are at all the silver bullet and I have seen a shit load. J

Fair enuff. May I ask, and I'm not being funny because I have followed your post, and you do know a good deal. What lines have you found over the years to be consistent? What do you prefer in other words. I've heard good and bad about all the bloods, just kinda wonderin' what you like tripJ, YIS

TripleJ
03-19-2009, 11:26 AM
Fair enuff. May I ask, and I'm not being funny because I have followed your post, and you do know a good deal. What lines have you found over the years to be consistent? What do you prefer in other words. I've heard good and bad about all the bloods, just kinda wonderin' what you like tripJ, YIS
Ok, Ill play. But to be fair about the yellow dogs. The ones I thought were the best were the Johnboy stuff. The ones the havanna boys had. It seemed you had about a 50% chance. they were Cold shittish acting dogs or as good as any bulldog. There was no guess work. I am and old school local guy. I like the stuff that came out of the deep south. The old FL -Ga-La type dogs. I also Like the stuff that came down from the moutainman.he crossed some of that stuff nice Like the Rascle all in it. I think the old Eli type crosses you can get anything done.

HighRiskKennels
03-19-2009, 03:11 PM
Baracuda,Mayday,Yellow,Ch.Dude,Ect,Ect Ect

TripleJ
03-19-2009, 04:02 PM
Baracuda,Mayday,Yellow,Ch.Dude,Ect,Ect Ect.
for the most part that is the people behind the dog and there way is the good way Keep them all cull hard and only show the best. and also all those fancey titles dont matter much. I have seen a lot and they are just like the yellow dogs. Dont belive the hype! like I said. J

ben brockton
03-19-2009, 04:21 PM
some people will never understand . Titles dont matter to dogs lol a half honest dog in the right hands can out class a grch handled by a dip$##T. paper Titles are no good just a tool to sell dogs imo.

HighRiskKennels
03-19-2009, 04:44 PM
Title's maybe? But what did the dog's from your local yard's do???? Mine? .......ALOT! Why? REDBOY/ JOCKO/ Eli! Crosses are the way to go, if your really doing whats needed in these dog's high demand life's !!!It's not allway's papers nobody said (Its Pretty Papers!)

pitbullin
03-19-2009, 04:44 PM
some people will never understand . Titles dont matter to dogs lol a half honest dog in the right hands can out class a grch handled by a dip$##T. paper Titles are no good just a tool to sell dogs imo.
i wish i could thank this post like 50 times.......bravo...............

Caos
03-19-2009, 05:02 PM
Baracuda,Mayday,Yellow,Ch.Dude,Ect,Ect Ect. the shit will allway's do great on the hunt Take a look at Stone City Kennel's!Ch,Gr Ch,

all have the good ones and bad ones that crap of best blood don't exist!

HighRiskKennels
03-19-2009, 05:04 PM
But you show me a man who raises a bulldog the way he should be raised and would give up there old lady for there dogs , thats a dogman!

HighRiskKennels
03-19-2009, 05:05 PM
I agree Caos...There is bigger , better dog's as time goes on ...ITS EVOLUTION!

Caos
03-19-2009, 05:06 PM
Well I've been gettin my Knl back on track. I'm gettin a little one outta this breeding http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=306267 soon that is gonna be something else! ;) I do like the RB/Jeep/Jocko crossed with some tombstone, some on the big side but it's all good in this circle. :D

that's a nice breed dogs!

Caos
03-19-2009, 05:08 PM
I agree Caos...There is bigger , better dog's as time goes on ...ITS EVOLUTION!

just forgot to say that what really exist is true dogman!

ben brockton
03-19-2009, 05:42 PM
''what did the dog's from your local yard's do?'' HRK Im from florida hope that answer your question. ''Mine? .......ALOT'' like M.C say if you want fame you need to load that dog up and take it out of state stop messen with locals boys''.''REDBOY/ JOCKO/ Eli! Crosses are the way to go, if your really doing whats needed'' you are full of $##T talking that mess FACT.''Myself i have 1000 people Ready to bet the farm'' It takes one RAT to have you doing time bro.You smell kinda like ham Im done with you have a nice day.:)

ebady23
03-19-2009, 08:21 PM
Gotta love the toejam stuff...heres my old man. http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=195554 Haven't decided what I'm going to do with him when I leave the country, he's going on 10 and healthy as a bull.

mikem
03-19-2009, 09:41 PM
yellow blood ? dennis meathead unbeleivable producer ,only thing is hes a freak at 72 lbs

TripleJ
03-20-2009, 08:40 AM
Title's maybe? But what did the dog's from your local yard's do???? Mine? .......ALOT! Why? REDBOY/ JOCKO/ Eli! Crosses are the way to go, if your really doing whats needed in these dog's high demand life's !!!It's not allway's papers nobody said (Its Pretty Papers!)
The dogs ia talking about have had line made from them. How about Boomerang, Midnightcowboy, Happyjack Boltaction,blackgold,dirtymary,mary-k,nighttrain,Johnwayne,Jigger,candy,cherrybomb,smi linjack,arty,cherry,Sirdog sportdog .I could go on all day But I have seen them with my eyes and they ARE higherquality bulldogs... Now you may got a dog from Jessie and are proud of it but the fact is I aint never seen anything but dumb game dogs from that stuff. and I would take one of the dogs above for ten yellow dogs or ten sck dogs. JMOP

TripleJ
03-20-2009, 08:41 AM
''what did the dog's from your local yard's do?'' HRK Im from florida hope that answer your question. ''Mine? .......ALOT'' like M.C say if you want fame you need to load that dog up and take it out of state stop messen with locals boys''.''REDBOY/ JOCKO/ Eli! Crosses are the way to go, if your really doing whats needed'' you are full of $##T talking that mess FACT.''Myself i have 1000 people Ready to bet the farm'' It takes one RAT to have you doing time bro.You smell kinda like ham Im done with you have a nice day.:)
I would hate to see 1,000 people with out a farm LOL.

oldslowblue
03-20-2009, 09:33 AM
just forgot to say that what really exist is true dogman!

True indeed. Never meant to rattle this thread, was just giving my opinion and wanted TripJ's as well. Thruth is, there is a best blood out there so to speak. YALL WANT ME TA TELL DESE FELLERS WHAT BLOODLINE IT IS? AWWRYTE, I RECKON IT'S THE ONE IN YOUR YARD, ON YOUR CHAIN. Lol., excuse my Southern slang. Just joking, but seriously, it is. If you didn't think highly of a particular blood, it wouldn't be there. I to am from Florida. My brother/Cousins have tought me a lot. Grandpa to. Cousin done the Jethro breeding, and kept him for a while before he was sent to the Carolina's. Courtney Love to. I moved out of Florida, towards the mountains, and got with older men on the mountains, and have leashed walked great dogs like Shovel, but back then, we called him Tj. Not to brag, or show off, but good dogs are everywhere. That's my point. From state to state you can find them. And most important, they each consist of different bloods. The key is finding a blood first, and then going with a family of that same blood, that consisted of best dogs. Pedigrees are important to me, because all it shows me, is the culling process. I always heard, pedigrees aren't important. The dog makes the papers. That's true, but explain that to genetics, lol. Not everytime you breed two good bulldogs, you get good bulldogs. This goes back to the saying, titles aren't anything, and they really are not. You have to be just as good in the w8 pull ring, as the brood pen, and even then, nothing is promised. "I just breed two bulldogs together, they always gimme back more bulldogs, this tyme even better". Not true. Look at the breeding HONEYBUNCH x ZEBO. Two fr8 Trains bred to each other, w/an outcome of zilch. The bloods have to click, so to speak as well. It's not always based on the individual dog. With that said, This is why I first posted to this topic. I have had alot of bloods. Tried just about all of them, and just have had more success with what I run now. Jeep/Jocko/Redboy/Rascal. Especially the RBJ. It just seems to click genetically w/a good bit of alternative bloodlines. Also, The linebreeding, and inbreeding are almost proven to make better dogs. You don't get that much with the Eli stuff. Late Bloomers, and heavy sorting process. I also know that this is because the Eli is already so tight. Those dogs were all 1/2 sister brother cousin nephew back to granny type deal. Rascal, Honeybunch, Bullyson, Chinaman, Jeep..... and so on. There is almost no more room for those kind of breedings when dealing with the Eli. Don't get me wrong, you can. Like I said though, heavy cull'n. T.G. is the best example of what I'm trying to explain. You take that guy, he's got to be in the top 3 breeders of all time. Basically took a strand of Eli, and started a consistent line of dogs, almost w/o any cross. He understands the genetic side of it. Mastered it, if you will. Takes alot of time, wisdom, and knowledge to do so. Oh, and free tyme for culling, lol. Like my grand pa always said..... Go with what works for you. Not what you've heard, and not what you've seen, unless you've seen it consistently. When it doesn't work anymore, figure out why and fine tune it. Still not working? Back to the drawing board.

ben brockton
03-20-2009, 10:26 AM
''I would hate to see 1,000 people with out a farm LOL'' OMG I JUST $### MY PANTS*) thay will need FEMA. Boomerang, Midnightcowboy, Happyjack Boltaction,blackgold,dirtymary,mary-k,nighttrain,Johnwayne,Jigger,candy,cherrybomb,smi linjack,arty,cherry,Sirdog sportdog. Thats some nice LOCAL DOGS.

JBlazeRx7
03-20-2009, 12:33 PM
TripelJ what's your cup of tea?

oldslowblue
03-24-2009, 11:47 AM
Ok, Ill play. But to be fair about the yellow dogs. The ones I thought were the best were the Johnboy stuff. The ones the havanna boys had. It seemed you had about a 50% chance. they were Cold shittish acting dogs or as good as any bulldog. There was no guess work. I am and old school local guy. I like the stuff that came out of the deep south. The old FL -Ga-La type dogs. I also Like the stuff that came down from the moutainman.he crossed some of that stuff nice Like the Rascle all in it. I think the old Eli type crosses you can get anything done.

True indeed. I am from Florida, and I believe you when you say it. The emmit stuff still stands strong! Love the Rascal myself

oldslowblue
03-24-2009, 11:48 AM
The dogs ia talking about have had line made from them. How about Boomerang, Midnightcowboy, Happyjack Boltaction,blackgold,dirtymary,mary-k,nighttrain,Johnwayne,Jigger,candy,cherrybomb,smi linjack,arty,cherry,Sirdog sportdog .I could go on all day But I have seen them with my eyes and they ARE higherquality bulldogs... Now you may got a dog from Jessie and are proud of it but the fact is I aint never seen anything but dumb game dogs from that stuff. and I would take one of the dogs above for ten yellow dogs or ten sck dogs. JMOP

Dumb game you may get, but what about adding a lil JEEP/RASCAL to it? Now there's a powerful Piece of pooch!

oldslowblue
03-24-2009, 11:50 AM
yellow blood ? dennis meathead unbeleivable producer ,only thing is hes a freak at 72 lbs

Got a ped 4 our viewing pleasures?

oldslowblue
03-24-2009, 11:52 AM
Gotta love the toejam stuff...heres my old man. http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=195554 Haven't decided what I'm going to do with him when I leave the country, he's going on 10 and healthy as a bull.

Damn gud bred dog. Complete package. JEEP/JOCKO/REDBOY/RASCAL. Love N it! Nice dog, and ped!

TripleJ
03-24-2009, 11:56 AM
Dumb game you may get, but what about adding a lil JEEP/RASCAL to it? Now there's a powerful Piece of pooch!
Then you dont have a yellow dog. you have a Jeep-Rescal-Yellow dog, See what I am sayin. And to answer you that would be a good cross. A CROSS NOT A YELLOW DOG.

jumper3202
03-24-2009, 12:11 PM
Ok I am going to bust some bubbles. First I have went to tants yard and bought dogs I have tried that blood just about every way it can go I owned partnership in dog with people that came off his yard. And only two dog we got off that stuff I would say were very good and they were 50/50 cross with some old Clouse blood. I am not saying that you wont get good dogs off that but dont belive the hype! they are no better than any thing else. and I dont think they are at all the silver bullet and I have seen a shit load. J

i have heard the same thing about dogs that came strait from FB's yard when it was still up and goin...A very reliable source told me they tried many dogs from the fb's yard and alot of them would start out hot then loose interest and absolutely none of the many he tried strait from fb's yard worked out at all not one.... The tant dogs are bred some much nowadays you gotta be very picky where u get ur tant stuff.....

oldslowblue
03-24-2009, 12:49 PM
Then you dont have a yellow dog. you have a Jeep-Rescal-Yellow dog, See what I am sayin. And to answer you that would be a good cross. A CROSS NOT A YELLOW DOG.

LMAO, or trying to LMAO. It appears my foot is in my pie whole! Gud point Trip. Looks as if my mouth overloaded my booty shoot. Ok, so I jumped the gun. But you are right. It is a cross. The pure yellow stuff is still no different to me than your pure anything pending how tight it is. Basics to a brood dog. If you would like to consider the Yellow blood, a pure line. I know, I know, over time it appears to have come to that, but I'm just as ol school as you. That is a redboy/Mayfield with a touch of corvino. Keep in mind, the Jocko needed the redboy. The redboy is where that dumb game trait came from, as the Jocko dogs were a little light hearted. Not being funny or a know it all, but people use the term "TAB BLOOD' all of the time. That's not a a pure line of dog. It's the ELI/REDBOY Cross. See what I'm gettin at? But you are right, with the addition of Jeep/Rascal, it is a cross, not pure Yellow so to speak. Again, I stress and blame the redboy for bringing this trait. Back in the day, in Florida, folx ran a Jeep/Jocko cross. Now there is a gud one! Far and few in-between these days, but boy, you talk about a smart, mouthy lil animal, whooo! In my opinion, better than the RBJ simply because of the dumb gameness. With the Jeep/Jocko, you get a better finished product. And again, I'm no expert, JUST MY OPINION. Thanks for pointing that mistake out Trip. I'll do better to comprehend what Im reading before I just a-bomb a thread. Yall take care!!!

oldslowblue
03-24-2009, 12:53 PM
i have heard the same thing about dogs that came strait from FB's yard when it was still up and goin...A very reliable source told me they tried many dogs from the fb's yard and alot of them would start out hot then loose interest and absolutely none of the many he tried strait from fb's yard worked out at all not one.... The tant dogs are bred some much nowadays you gotta be very picky where u get ur tant stuff.....

True indeed. There may be only a couple of breeders to date that sorted the way tant did. Know what you want, know where to get it, but most of all, know who you are getting it from!

TripleJ
03-24-2009, 01:32 PM
True indeed. There may be only a couple of breeders to date that sorted the way tant did. Know what you want, know where to get it, but most of all, know who you are getting it from!
THANK YOU!!! Thats what I am talikng about. When I was younger I had it made I was a Pro hunter and had more time than big ben and lots of money to Blow. Well I wanted to build a Super yard lol. So I went to all the hot breeders I could buying prospects and pups. I wont mention names but its messed up when a man selling tp Jqp has 100 dogs for sell and all them act like the boggie man is after them. Talk about here I sorted out the sdew balls for ya.Then when its all said and done, none work out and the best dogs in the world are with in 50 miles of your house.And you were off blowing money on the GR CH shit that cant even hunt as hard as your house bitch. You kinda stand back and learn a thing or two about game dogs. its all in the indiviul(sp) dogs. and you better be seeing those dogs your self and dont listen to all the titles. Your eyes wont lie. J

ben brockton
03-24-2009, 01:44 PM
I hope people will learn somthing from your post J. It is the TRUTH!

ducho13
03-24-2009, 01:48 PM
Got a ped 4 our viewing pleasures?


http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=162134

mikem
03-24-2009, 03:01 PM
thats one bad dog , produce like a mofo , my freind owns him

oldslowblue
03-25-2009, 09:06 AM
thats one bad dog , produce like a mofo , my freind owns him

I like the purer bloods with the wildside out. That Wildside stuff is really tight, but if you can utilize it as a strong quarter out or less, you're bound to get gud stuff. Not saying that's Y meathead is the way he is tho.

oldslowblue
03-25-2009, 09:11 AM
THANK YOU!!! Thats what I am talikng about. When I was younger I had it made I was a Pro hunter and had more time than big ben and lots of money to Blow. Well I wanted to build a Super yard lol. So I went to all the hot breeders I could buying prospects and pups. I wont mention names but its messed up when a man selling tp Jqp has 100 dogs for sell and all them act like the boggie man is after them. Talk about here I sorted out the sdew balls for ya.Then when its all said and done, none work out and the best dogs in the world are with in 50 miles of your house.And you were off blowing money on the GR CH shit that cant even hunt as hard as your house bitch. You kinda stand back and learn a thing or two about game dogs. its all in the indiviul(sp) dogs. and you better be seeing those dogs your self and dont listen to all the titles. Your eyes wont lie. J

Ouuch!!! I can admit, I've been down that rd. Payed 2500 for a pup, 1500 for a pup, 1000 for a pup. Big names, big breeders, big titles, big ideas, paid the big money, for a big dissappointment. Was sold big dreams. That's y to date, I don't care how a bulldog is bred, as long as it is a bulldog!

oldslowblue
03-25-2009, 09:12 AM
thats one bad dog , produce like a mofo , my freind owns him

Was wondering what your friend runs with that blood? I really like the red devil line of tant, or Jumpin jack

oldslowblue
03-25-2009, 09:15 AM
I hope people will learn somthing from your post J. It is the TRUTH!

Me to. I've made the million dollar mistake, and sumtymes Ben, in order to really get it, you just have to Go down that rd, and go off in the deep in. The key is to keep composure, and learn from it. Re think your inks, and get back writing your story

mikem
03-25-2009, 08:02 PM
yeah mostly yellow stuff , they are pretty private people no website , but i know for a fact they wanna get some pups off him out to the public [ working kennels ] , when i went to the yard and saw what comes off him i was like damn i got to get me some of that , i mean nice thick boned athletic but rugged too and they were only like a year old and actin crazy , but yeah yellow , with outs of buck nd jeep on occasion