Any good ideas?

[jumper3202]

I wanna purchase a female to breed to my lil male in the future if he works out and performs good. Now he is dbl bred on garner's rosco www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=285425 now i wanna keep it tight on the eli but i been thinkin i wanna use some other eli stuff to do that with...I am lookin for some good suggestions so do you guys have any good ideas of which eli line that would be good to use? :D

[Bobby Rooster]

Don't you think its a good bit early to start thinking about what to breed him too???? I do...

If your gonna breed dogs BREED DOGS and not paper...

You have NO IDEA what kind of dog this will be, you don't know where he's strong and you don't know where he's week. Breeding dogs is so much more then putting two tightly bred dogs together..!! LOOK at the dogs and let THEM tell YOU how to breed them. Find a bitch that has Some of the same streaths but more important she needs to be STRONG where he is week..

The female is the backbone of any line. But you need to know THE DOGS before you can even ponder on what breedings will click.

JMHO

And my opinion you can't inbreed your mediocre dogs to get that super dog no matter how much you inbreed. If it's not there to start with it won't ever show up. You can breed down the latter but once its gone it can never comeback up the latter.

[ben brockton]

call Tom and talk to him ask him what he thinks.He will help you with that he is a good breeder and knows his dogs.If you can try to get one of them SNOOTY pups he got Eli/SNOOTY dogs are great:D

[rallyracer]

ummm the dog is not even 3 months old, how do you explain this...

"Lil strait ahead bulldog don\'t take no crap at all lol luvin him not to mention his crunch and set of teeth he has!!!!"

crunch? on what-kibble?
set of teeth? you mean those puppy teeth?

[Bobby Rooster]

RR while I agree with you.. We just need to be easy

[Bobby Rooster]

.............. Never mind

[ben brockton]

OMG I just $h!T my pants RR you crack me up with that post.That kid just has high hopes for his pup''if he works out and performs good''.What ever he does I hope he will keep the whole litter and will not sell any.It takes many years with these dogs to tell if you have a god dog or not and some will never be able to tell.

[rallyracer]

i realize i can come off a bit strong, maybe arrogant sometimes, but i try to bite my tongue alot. this case is a perfect example.
there are waaay to many people talking about breeding these days.
there are waaay to many people putting less than desirable information online.
these are the people who draw attention to us, and its not in a good light.
im not saying that breeding is bad- the dog is 11 weeks old, let it grow up and THEN worry about its breeding potential. but i would prefer to see the breedings done by people who know what they want to breed to, not folks fishing around to see what the internet thinks they should breed...we dont know your dog.
it should also be noted the peds online IS infact severly monitored by hsus and law enforcement officials, to put more info than needed on a ped is just asking for a download ( and yes, it DOES happen)

and yes, we ALL have high hopes for our dogs. i have 3 females right now, all under 12 months old. i have high hopes that one of them might prove worthy of being bred to keep me going w/ these dogs (i.e personal dogs, not for sale-they stay here) but that potential breeding is years away(4-5 to be precise) i had a great brood bitch and lost her in my divorce...i had a great stud dog, i never kept anyting off them as i thought i had all the time in the world. and so the rebuilding begins after almost 20 years. to the op- sorry if i offend you, but that is just my yankee attitude shining thru i guess.

[Bobby Rooster]

Agree 110% RR

[jumper3202]

ummm the dog is not even 3 months old, how do you explain this...

"Lil strait ahead bulldog don\'t take no crap at all lol luvin him not to mention his crunch and set of teeth he has!!!!"

crunch? on what-kibble?
set of teeth? you mean those puppy teeth?

where the hell do u get he is only 3 mnths?

[40lbRed]

Calm down. language

[rallyracer]

right here homie, from the ped YOU posted, birthdate 12-08-2008 a bit of quick goat math puts that dog at (drum roll please..........) 3 days under 3 months old ( it is now 03-05-09).....

BREEDER: GARNER
OWNER: WALKER
SEX: MALE
COLOR: BLACK WITH SMALL WHITE MARKS
CHAINWEIGHT: PUPPY
CONDITIONED WEIGHT: PUPPY
BIRTHDATE: 2008-12-08
POSTED: 2008-12-17
LAST MODIFIED: 2009-02-06
PEDIGREE HAS BEEN SEEN: 1713 TIMES

Lil strait ahead bulldog don\'t take no crap at all lol luvin him not to mention his crunch and set of teeth he has!!!!

[jumper3202]

y so serious people, get real guys i was just creating conversation, some people are so narrow minded, why don't people put stuff in perspective that he will not be bred if is not worthy i mean u people act like some people just beginner's and kids by just a thread get real and read in to shit way to deep....lol lol wow how can u guys think people are this stupid get fuckin real open your eyes alittle and quit jumpin to conclusions....

[jumper3202]

well thats a mistake he was born in august my partner created the ped homie! i was wondering wtf you was talkin about...lol

[jumper3202]

not one strait educated answer some of you over exam things by far can't even create convo without people thinkin people are beginners and don't know what there doin...thanks anyway no need to get into all that big replys juss tryin to have alil fun lol lol

[Marty]

We have kids that view this site I will ask that we watch our language ;)

And please edit your own posts as I don't have time :eek:

[Bobby Rooster]

Easy jumper we only have the breeds best interest at heart, and brother there are a TON of fools that are out there and breeding dogs, and the question you asked does come across a little green.

Dogmen breed bulldogs peddlers just breed any ol dogs. Some with fancy or tight paper work.

So just try to see that our advise is ment for the betterment of the breed and not an attack on your personally...

I know we all dream and think and plan out breeding and theorize a bunch I'm just as guilty of that and I think almost every thinks about it their head to some degree..

But I stand by what I said in my first post. I hope you can soak that in.

[SPFDOGS]

not one strait educated answer some of you over exam things by far can't even create convo without people thinkin people are beginners and don't know what there doin...thanks anyway no need to get into all that big replys juss tryin to have alil fun lol lol

Educated questions, recieve educated answers...Foolish questions recieve answers much like the ones you've recieved already..

There is no question in my mind that this pup will be the sire of a litter before he is mature..No doubt about it..

[SPFDOGS]

y so serious people, get real guys i was just creating conversation, some people are so narrow minded, why don't people put stuff in perspective that he will not be bred if is not worthy i mean u people act like some people just beginner's and kids by just a thread get real and read in to shit way to deep....lol lol wow how can u guys think people are this stupid get fuckin real open your eyes alittle and quit jumpin to conclusions....

Why are people so serious?.
Because people like you breed PUPS simply because of what their PAPERS say and NOT on the animals own merits, thus causing a decline in the overall quality of said bloodline..

"..he will not be bred if is not worthy.." So your DynoPUP was worthy when you bred him to your "rare" backyard bred female?.
Was that street dog that you picked up and put CKC papers on him worthy of being bred?.If not why did you have him at public stud on your website?.

"..you people act like some people just beginner's and kids by just a thread get real.." It is SOOOO painfully obvious (just by reading a few of your posts/threads here, as oldgameblood & jumper, and on fedsonline as walko) that YOU ARE green, and not only that, but you have the "fantasy land" mentallity of a kid..No need to jump to conclusions, it plain for the eye to see..

And just so you know...Serious dogmen dont have to ask opinions from people on the internet, about what to do with their program..

[jumper3202]

Why are people so serious?.
Because people like you breed PUPS simply because of what their PAPERS say and NOT on the animals own merits, thus causing a decline in the overall quality of said bloodline..

"..he will not be bred if is not worthy.." So your DynoPUP was worthy when you bred him to your "rare" backyard bred female?.
Was that street dog that you picked up and put CKC papers on him worthy of being bred?.If not why did you have him at public stud on your website?.

"..you people act like some people just beginner's and kids by just a thread get real.." It is SOOOO painfully obvious (just by reading a few of your posts/threads here, as oldgameblood & jumper, and on fedsonline as walko) that YOU ARE green, and not only that, but you have the "fantasy land" mentallity of a kid..No need to jump to conclusions, it plain for the eye to see..

And just so you know...Serious dogmen dont have to ask opinions from people on the internet, about what to do with their program..


yh spf i had my female for 5yrs before i bred her bud and she is far from back yard lol i looked around for 2yrs before i bred her i wasn't ever gonna breed her but for one she was worthy and 2 i could get something strait off some good stock if i couldn't get some off good stock she wouldn't of been bred so you say i breed pups but yet i waited five yrs just breed her??? bud u are just hatin cuz u think u pulled my card but ur not even close pal give it a rest...
you seem to over look that it was just for conversation lol

[jumper3202]

Why are people so serious?.
Because people like you breed PUPS simply because of what their PAPERS say and NOT on the animals own merits, thus causing a decline in the overall quality of said bloodline..

"..he will not be bred if is not worthy.." So your DynoPUP was worthy when you bred him to your "rare" backyard bred female?.
Was that street dog that you picked up and put CKC papers on him worthy of being bred?.If not why did you have him at public stud on your website?.

"..you people act like some people just beginner's and kids by just a thread get real.." It is SOOOO painfully obvious (just by reading a few of your posts/threads here, as oldgameblood & jumper, and on fedsonline as walko) that YOU ARE green, and not only that, but you have the "fantasy land" mentallity of a kid..No need to jump to conclusions, it plain for the eye to see..

And just so you know...Serious dogmen dont have to ask opinions from people on the internet, about what to do with their program..



once again you are juss reading into it to much if i had a dog at possible future stud then i figured you people had enough common sense that only when he is mature and proven will he be bred, common sense right???????????????????????????????????? or do you just think people are just that stupid come on now get a life people aren't have as stupid as u make them out to be bud wow common sense and my topic was just for conversation......and spf no reason to even post cuz i don't even read them lol lol lol i go right on to the next reply and don't even read ur junk....i love my life the way it is and i don't have to hate on anybody to feel good about myself i know what i am about and i don't never doubt that so give it up.....

[Bobby Rooster]

Ok, we're just trying to teach, but it seams your like that 16 year old that knows everything.

So I suggest People listen to the quote in my sig. about don't argue with fools......

I could write and write and write about what I think about your posts jumper but I see that it would make little difference.

So when you ask something, truly ask it because you want to know.
You would have a lot better off just posting a ped with no date or pic or sentence trying to make your PUP sound like the next Chinaman....

And btw I have several possible future studs... But the key word is possible, it's also possible that they won't be too.... Possible doesn't mean MOST LIKLY....

Like I said in my first post..

YOU have to truly know what you have before you really know what you have and where to go from there...

We don't know you or your intentions all we have to go by is what YOU said and what YOU gave us.. And yes their are MANY Many fools and common sense lacking folks out there that.... Well there just is...

[jumper3202]

Ok, we're just trying to teach, but it seams your like that 16 year old that knows everything.

So I suggest People listen to the quote in my sig. about don't argue with fools......

I could write and write and write about what I think about your posts jumper but I see that it would make little difference.

So when you ask something, truly ask it because you want to know.
You would have a lot better off just posting a ped with no date or pic or sentence trying to make your PUP sound like the next Chinaman....

And btw I have several possible future studs... But the key word is possible, it's also possible that they won't be too.... Possible doesn't mean MOST LIKLY....

Like I said in my first post..

YOU have to truly know what you have before you really know what you have and where to go from there...

We don't know you or your intentions all we have to go by is what YOU said and what YOU gave us.. And yes their are MANY Many fools and common sense lacking folks out there that.... Well there just is...


Dude i wasn't tryin to make my pup seem like the chinaman wtf people i was juss tryin to have alil fun and get some opinions on a fun post not a serious one ok i did read your post and take it in, i didn't mean to sound like a mr know it at all man i was replying to the other post, yours is the only one that made sense beside the one that said just get ahold of tom. once again juss tryin to have fun...if it wasn't for me there would be nuttin but 100 pnd blues runnin around in my area no bull!!! i have turned a circle that has been runnin blues for the last tens yrs to quit breeding that junk and taught them what a true apbt is. And now they have some really good chinaman stuff and some really good jeep stuff....this big circle of friends would still be flooding the streets with blues but instead they don't sell nuttin and breed gamedogs and they keep all of them cuz they are now breeding for a purpose and not for money and you guys think im green and stuff and a kid that i have backyard junk na no way sorry guys but you far from the truth no disrespect to anyone....

[SPFDOGS]

yh spf i had my female for 5yrs before i bred her bud and she is far from back yard lol i looked around for 2yrs before i bred her i wasn't ever gonna breed her but for one she was worthy and 2 i could get something strait off some good stock if i couldn't get some off good stock she wouldn't of been bred so you say i breed pups but yet i waited five yrs just breed her??? bud u are just hatin cuz u think u pulled my card but ur not even close pal give it a rest...
you seem to over look that it was just for conversation lol

Dude first off before I say anything else I want to make it clear as to why I jumped on you, when you initially came on this forum under a different handle..
I run Chinaman dogs and their crosses..When someone pops up on a forum that has dogs bred similar to mine, I take notice, and when said person goes spouting off terms like gauranteed champion, and deadgame bulldog, when speaking about his puppy that still has puppy n*ts, I take notice..

All I did was ask logical questions about your dogs and the best you could come up with was curse words, and ebonics..What am I suppose to do?.

But anyways...
I was talking about the Frisco PUP that you bred to your female..Are you trying to argue that he wasnt a PUP when that breeding was made?.

"..you seem to overlook the fact that it was just for conversation lol.."

If you were asking a question just to start up some conversation,than you probably should have asked what other branch off the Eli tree blends well with Cronos blood, and not what should I breed my puppy to..Just a thought..

And like I told you last time..This is the internet..If you cant take getting you chops busted, you should'nt have been putting pictures & pedigrees of your dogs out there like that..

[jumper3202]

Dude first off before I say anything else I want to make it clear as to why I jumped on you, when you initially came on this forum under a different handle..
I run Chinaman dogs and their crosses..When someone pops up on a forum that has dogs bred similar to mine, I take notice, and when said person goes spouting off terms like gauranteed champion, and deadgame bulldog, when speaking about his puppy that still has puppy n*ts, I take notice..

All I did was ask logical questions about your dogs and the best you could come up with was curse words, and ebonics..What am I suppose to do?.

But anyways...
I was talking about the Frisco PUP that you bred to your female..Are you trying to argue that he wasnt a PUP when that breeding was made?.

"..you seem to overlook the fact that it was just for conversation lol.."

If you were asking a question just to start up some conversation,than you probably should have asked what other branch off the Eli tree blends well with Cronos blood, and not what should I breed my puppy to..Just a thought..

And like I told you last time..This is the internet..If you cant take getting you chops busted, you should'nt have been putting pictures & pedigrees of your dogs out there like that..


dude you just make up stuff man and man it just takes common sense that someone isnt goin to breed there pup ok i respect all of you there is no reason to bust my chops man i have done good for the breed in my area no shit man for real u can't find a real apbt in my area ok and when people assume that someone is goin to breed a pup or try to say they did is horse crap man you can't seriously believe i bred a pup when my chinaman pup wasn't even a pup when i bought him.....bust my chops all you want its not gonna change anything...you should try to teach someone, than bust there chops man the breed needs your help and not in that way dude....

[ben brockton]

It don't matter what anyone say to this guy his mind is made up "Lil strait ahead bulldog don\'t take no crap at all lol luvin him not to mention his crunch and set of teeth he has!!!!" BLA BLA BLA ''Rosco this Eli that'' We know he ain't in it for the dogs.We also know he has no clue of what he is even doing JUMPER3202 your OP speeks louder then anything you will ever know . You should'nt have ask that question so you can't get mad at the response you got. It's not all his falt he dont know any better and that hurts our dogs as a whole .If we dont sell our dogs it would not be such a problem.We should make it next to imposable to own this type of dog then it won't be such a problem.It's up to us to save our breed of dogs'' keep it in the famly'' understand.JUMPER I hope we got you wrong but damn man you make it hard for us to think any difrent....BEN BROCKTON

[Marty]

I got bitch problem going on right now myself so Mods please take care of this :o

[jumper3202]

maybe i should have worded things different but i juss figure that common sense will prevail i guess i am wrong i guess i juss learned that again huh...i love the breed i will do anything for the breed guys....Feel free to school me no problem i still have alot to learn but i am not green but i can word things different yes spf you are right about that, that you truly are! Im sure you have more knowledge than me on the sport i seen alot of people on this board like you and i don't dislike you just didnt understand y the bashing but i kinda get it now i can really word thing different and put out that i am not goin to breed my pup or stud my young prospect without knowing he will workout. i juss never thought that you guys would take me the wrong way i have alot friends and and alot of character i never meant to be so green and seem to be bad for the breed im not in it to breed. The many times i been to toms i even told him i am leaving the breeding up to people like him ya know the pros i just want a great not juss good yard and when i do breed its for me and my friends i can harbor alot dogs with alll the property i have i am just trying to do my own thing and not for the money just for me i want a great yard from proven stock sorry fellas i really never meant to be a mr know it alll i have respect for all of you guys...:)


ps
sorry marty i wont curse on here anymore you have done a great thing with this board and you great for the breed thanks for allowing me to apart of the board....

[SPFDOGS]

I make stuff up?!...Please be kind enough and name one thing that I have made up about you?.I can name a few thing that you have said about yourself, that werent/arent true though..
Your Dynomite dog wasnt a pup when you bought him?.You and your buddy were on opposite sides of TG, and you were holding him with one hand..He looked to be 6-7mo old..I doubt he was more than 13-14mo old when you bred him.. No?. (Just so members know I tried to keep this in the PM's but for whatever reason my contact w/ him has been disabled)

It does take common sense to know that only a fool would breed a pup/yearling, but this breed attracts plenty of them..

As far as "teaching" someone goes, I am a student of the breed, nothing more nothing less..I can give advise, and share expiriences, but thats about it..I am in no position to be "teaching" anybody anything..

** And just for the record, I did give you some advise on our last "conversation" via PM when I told you to get rid of those dogs you have with the "rare bloodlines"..You didnt respond.....End of story..

[Bobby Rooster]

Marty you made The song

"I got 99 problems but a bitch aint one..."

Just pop into my head THANKS :D

[Bobby Rooster]

With a attitude like this humble and respectful, I truly hope you stick around. I knew I saw I potential somewhere.. ;)

maybe i should have worded things different but i juss figure that common sense will prevail i guess i am wrong i guess i juss learned that again huh...i love the breed i will do anything for the breed guys....Feel free to school me no problem i still have alot to learn but i am not green but i can word things different yes spf you are right about that, that you truly are! Im sure you have more knowledge than me on the sport i seen alot of people on this board like you and i don't dislike you just didnt understand y the bashing but i kinda get it now i can really word thing different and put out that i am not goin to breed my pup or stud my young prospect without knowing he will workout. i juss never thought that you guys would take me the wrong way i have alot friends and and alot of character i never meant to be so green and seem to be bad for the breed im not in it to breed. The many times i been to toms i even told him i am leaving the breeding up to people like him ya know the pros i just want a great not juss good yard and when i do breed its for me and my friends i can harbor alot dogs with alll the property i have i am just trying to do my own thing and not for the money just for me i want a great yard from proven stock sorry fellas i really never meant to be a mr know it alll i have respect for all of you guys...:)


ps
sorry marty i wont curse on here anymore you have done a great thing with this board and you great for the breed thanks for allowing me to apart of the board....

[jumper3202]

I am willing to learn as much as possible even though i don't know you guys,it don't matter i know one thing is that you are great for the breed and thats what matters!!!!!!

[Bobby Rooster]

.....Edit....

[Marty]

Marty I know you the boss and all but don't ya think we need the G version for "the kids" that come on this site.. Pretty heavy language Brother...I edited my post for the same reason just wanted it to be known, sorry about that man :o

[ben brockton]

''With a attitude like this humble and respectful, I truly hope you stick around. I knew I saw I potential somewhere.. ;)'' Thats good $h!t right there thats how it should be. It's great people stand up for these dogs and we dont even know each other.A lot of good came out of this thred time for a group hug....JK:D

[powerups]

Hello Guys I Was Reading All Of The Post And That Is A Topic To Argue All Day But At The End We Can't Save Everybodys Yard.and At The End No Body Knows Where The Next Great Dog Will Come From.

[ben brockton]

MY YARD BWAHABWAHA:cool:

[powerups]

See Know You Sound Like Like Jumper

[ben brockton]

man chill out it was a joke!!!! im not going to piss with you like you say were not sure where it will come from. My yard is just as good as anyone else I PLAY THE LOTTO just like the next man. If it does you wont hear about it

[jaystreetsA4]

ya'll wild.:Dlol

[crimsonghost]

Easy jumper we only have the breeds best interest at heart, and brother there are a TON of fools that are out there and breeding dogs, and the question you asked does come across a little green.

Dogmen breed bulldogs peddlers just breed any ol dogs. Some with fancy or tight paper work.

So just try to see that our advise is ment for the betterment of the breed and not an attack on your personally...

I know we all dream and think and plan out breeding and theorize a bunch I'm just as guilty of that and I think almost every thinks about it their head to some degree..

But I stand by what I said in my first post. I hope you can soak that in.


a couple years ago you didnt even know who boudreaux was and now your breeding dogs how the hell does that work practice what you preach boy

[440rider]

I wanna purchase a female to breed to my lil male in the future if he works out and performs good. Now he is dbl bred on garner's rosco http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...?dog_id=285425 now i wanna keep it tight on the eli but i been thinkin i wanna use some other eli stuff to do that with...I am lookin for some good suggestions so do you guys have any good ideas of which eli line that would be good to use?

to answer your original question get one off this....
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=298983

[Bobby Rooster]

a couple years ago you didnt even know who boudreaux was and now your breeding dogs how the hell does that work practice what you preach boy

I think you may want to read the thread I posted thru and thru before you make your self look like an ass and start insinuating things....

Do you know about EVERY dogman man that has ever lived?? I unlike some got my most of my knowledge from old timers in real life face to face not over the internet reading stories....

If you read my last post in that thread you will see the misunderstanding of the written word and the pronouncement of THAT word and it was ON MY PART and see the explanation of such.

Just because someone doesn't know a particle 'famous' dogman doesn't mean WHAT he knows is any less true...

I know several true and true dogmen that were in the game and now out that never herd of Mayfeild and some other prominent names that are plastered all over the net does this make what they say worth any less or make it any less true??? Their knowable comes from first hand experience that they have pasted down with a good dose of common sense. So just because someone might not have herd of Jerry Lee Louis or Jimmy Hendrix don't mean THEY can't play Rock N Roll...

[ben brockton]

how are you in the core & not know DM ? he was well known way before online. his dogs were all over the south.

[Bobby Rooster]

People who ran in tight circles, knew who they knew and what they knew and could care less about what others were doing or becoming famous...

[frenchie1936]

to answer your original question get one off this....
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=298983


you almost made me sh*t myself bro! thought it was my dog before the pic popped up and i looked closer LOL. (dial up) i happen to really like this one too as she doesn't have any questionable blood in her (i.e. Zebo and Nigger Toby)
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=119816

[440rider]

people who ran in tight circles, knew who they knew and what they knew and could care less about what others were doing or becoming famous...

historically speaking it was not about being famous those that made a name for themselves did by going into fastlane comp, winning and respecting one another.

[crimsonghost]

People who ran in tight circles, knew who they knew and what they knew and could care less about what others were doing or becoming famous...

shut up if you really believed that you wouldnt of responded to the op and i can tell you i know old people also golly gee beav

[outrightmike]

check out this female *edit*
- 11866 ap-30L.

[Bobby Rooster]

crimsonghost - No Sir, I will not shut up. What ever the reason for the stick up your ass You have a PM.

[ColbyDogs]

shut up

You might want to heed your own advise, telling a staff member to "shut up" will only lead you to time off. I'll respectfully ask for you to change your tone please.

Thank you

[woody d]

You might want to head your own advise, telling a staff member to "shut up" will only lead you to time off. I'll respectfully ask for you to change your tone please.

Thank youwe all can bust each others chops, but to challenge a staff member automatically get one put in "time out"? i think this is a B.S. policy, and it comes across like you simply dont care about anothers opinion, cuz yours is right no matter what. JMO, but i wanna ask u this...why should the rest of us respect your opinion/advice when its gotta be treated like the gospel wether we agree or not? im only stating this cuz ive seen alotta arrogant remarks (im right no matter what kinda crap)from some staff members lately. i realize respect is required for a large forum to exist, but u gotta give alittle to get alittle.:D

[ColbyDogs]

we all can bust each others chops, but to challenge a staff member automatically get one put in "time out"? i think this is a B.S. policy, and it comes across like you simply dont care about anothers opinion, cuz yours is right no matter what. JMO, but i wanna ask u this...why should the rest of us respect your opinion/advice when its gotta be treated like the gospel wether we agree or not? im only stating this cuz ive seen alotta arrogant remarks (im right no matter what kinda crap)from some staff members lately. i realize respect is required for a large forum to exist, but u gotta give alittle to get alittle.:D


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8. If a staff member makes a reasonable request of you, it is wise to comply. Blatant disregard of requests will not be tolerated and will result in disciplinary actions, up to and including banishment, depending on the nature and severity of the situation. If you do not agree with how a staff member has handled a certain situation, take it up with them or with an administrator in private.


The person in question is violating rule #6 and Woody you are now violating rule #8

"If you do not agree with how a staff member has handled a certain situation, take it up with them or with an administrator in private"

Telling the staff to "shut up" is blatantly being disrespectful and antagonistic, that will not be tolerated on any level. This has nothing to do with my opinion vs your opinion this has only to do with being confrontational to the staff and that will not happen on my watch.

Thread closed.

Any other issues with the staff take it to PM's.