Going Light

[AncientKulcha]

Is anyone running this strain of dogs? How are they?

[AncientKulcha]

No one?????

[TripleJ]

No one?????NOPE!!! no one. lol

[AncientKulcha]

NOPE!!! no one. lol

Lol i guess not I heard he wasn't quite a producer but.......WOW!!! Does anyone have a dog with some of that blood in it?

[who]

Going Light Barny was a CUR.... the owners of that dog matched him in Cali and when Real Competion came around, the dog stopped.......the dog was scatter bred anyways

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Going Light Barny was a CUR.... the owners of that dog matched him in Cali and when Real Competion came around, the dog stopped.......the dog was scatter bred anyways


lol a cur...in whose eyes...yours...this dog was said to be an ACE who was open to the world. I dont think he was ever open to stud and therfore not bred much. ...and to end the post with .....the dog was scatterbrd anyway....thats not true..thats some heinzyl/corvino @ its best...and if he was scatterbred...didnt make a differnce as papers dont make a dog.

[who]

im not goona agrue over the fact that the dog quit?.......he wasn't bred cause no one wanted dogs that were bred off of a dog that quit?......its pretty simple why no one has that blood

[rallyracer]

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=14057


^boy , if that is scatterbred, i would hate to see what you consider tightbred

and ALL dogs will quit at one point or another- i thought we all understood that

[mseebran]

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=14057


^boy , if that is scatterbred, i would hate to see what you consider tightbred

and ALL dogs will quit at one point or another- i thought we all understood that

Not trying to start anything, but I agree 100% with the above.

[PADogman]

im not goona agrue over the fact that the dog quit?.......he wasn't bred cause no one wanted dogs that were bred off of a dog that quit?......its pretty simple why no one has that blood

And I guess no one wanted dogs off Bullyson,Finley's Bo,Ch Crenshaws Rascal :rolleyes: They all quit.
Barney was bred more then what people think.He just wasnt a very good producer.And he wasnt bred to very many good bitch's either.
Maybe if he was bred to better dogs he might have produced better.

[TripleJ]

If you take them to the well to many times you will find out they all are just fleash and bone. I seen some of that going light stuff in the earley 90s I was not going to get me one(lol) mabey he would have produced better with some better stock under him I am not sure how the bitch side was one the litters I seen were. J

[who]

its still funny, the one guy named bullyson as another dog that quit, and still bred, but the funny thing about bullyson is that the dog was shot about 30min after he had quit so all the bullyson blood out there was from before then. and there was a bunch of paper hanging during that time so you never really know how some of the "good ones" were bred ......but thats just my opinion. but know major blood was bred around a cur dog, they are based off of dogs that didn't quit? right?

[Big Game]

Well any way you cut it Going Light Barny was Not a scatterbred dog by any means. You say " Bullyson was shot 30 min after he QUIT" Then turn around and say that "Know (No) Major Blood was bred around a curr dog" Well the Bullyson blood was and is Major blood. Many have based there own blood on ol bullyson with the Knowlidge that Bully Quit.Manny of these people have ben and continue to be sucsessfull with Blood Based on Bullyson. Same withJeep etc. I supose if ol Jeep or Bully were still with us and at public stud, You wouldent breed to ether in a million years huh?? Please:rolleyes:

[who]

what im saying is that alot of the dogs that they claim came off of bullyson weren't off of him.........and jeep blood is based off of jeep not bullyson.........

[who]

but back on point.........dogs like barney were just a flash in the pan.......the MAJOR ones show time over and over in the peds of our dogs today

[Big Game]

what im saying is that alot of the dogs that they claim came off of bullyson weren't off of him.........and jeep blood is based off of jeep not bullyson.........
No shit Jeep Blood is based of Jeep. Youre a sharp TOOL. My point is that jeep was another dog like Bullyson that had Quit but sucessfull programs were based off. Youre point was that no serious programs or"blood" was bassed of dogs that were known to have quit. I am right. You on the other hand are wrong. Big Game

[Big Game]

Bullyson Jeep etc .... Proved too be Producers Period if thay Quit or not.
Barny proved not to bea producer
Period
End of story

[TripleJ]

its still funny, the one guy named bullyson as another dog that quit, and still bred, but the funny thing about bullyson is that the dog was shot about 30min after he had quit so all the bullyson blood out there was from before then. and there was a bunch of paper hanging during that time so you never really know how some of the "good ones" were bred ......but thats just my opinion. but know major blood was bred around a cur dog, they are based off of dogs that didn't quit? right?
They will all quit! I know the real story behind that and Yes he did quit and so would have any other dog in the same shape they are only dogs. And Do you know who stopped him ??? His own son.. so he lost to his son when he was VERY sick and teeth roots were torn out. If he would have Beat his own son I think most like YOU would say LOOK he produces currs. You cant win for any thing with critics like that. BELIVE ME on the right day they will all quit dont belive ,that take one thats sick and low blood count and hunt him Ill give the gamest 40 min befor he is lost in the woods. OH and if he dies hunting in the woods you can call him dead game and then what hes no good any way. Dead game = body failed befor he thought about it too long. Very few are truley Dead game. J

[SPFDOGS]

Big Game..Jeep didnt quit..Where did you hear this nonsense?.

who..BC,JC,& FB all said in print that Bullson died of injuries sustained from his son, and NOT from being shot..

[who]

its funny cause after Bullyson quit AND WAS SHOT BY OLE MAN CARVER, his son that beat him, Benny bob, quit also and was shot, then Bullyson Jr. tried to jump the pit...... theres no point to agrue these points....... and ill say it one more time...... PAPER HANGING went on during those days so you really dont know how that Bullyson "stuff" is actually bred up...... ohh and it was a .32 pistol that was used on Bullyson, the same gun Carver carried in his boots

[AncientKulcha]

its funny cause after Bullyson quit AND WAS SHOT BY OLE MAN CARVER, his son that beat him, Benny bob, quit also and was shot, then Bullyson Jr. tried to jump the pit...... theres no point to agrue these points....... and ill say it one more time...... PAPER HANGING went on during those days so you really dont know how that Bullyson "stuff" is actually bred up...... ohh and it was a .32 pistol that was used on Bullyson, the same gun Carver carried in his boots

Wow you know a lot!! Were you there when he shot him?

[CrazyHorse]

I can't discount a dog that went 7 and 1. Tthe owner of Barney ducked no one and advertised in several magazines Barney open to the world. If Ii remember correct the ad said "have dog will travel." All dogs will quit and there are degrees of gameness.

As far as how he produced? I know he wasn't bred to alot of females and he was inbred quite a bit. Who knows what he would have produced if bred to hundreds of females like a Mayday, Jeep or Ffrisco. I'm sure he would have a few sons left to carry his blood today.

Curs can produce and produce well like the case with Bullyson. What people don't take into consideration is that wall of dogs behind that cur will determine that. Blood always tells and pedigrees are important when it comes to producing.

[Big Game]

Big Game..Jeep didnt quit..Where did you hear this nonsense?.

who..BC,JC,& FB all said in print that Bullson died of injuries sustained from his son, and NOT from being shot..

I stand corrected. I do not belive Jeep quit But I did read somewhere that there was some Controversy surrounding his match with Homer. I cant remember details or where I read it. Big Game

[Pit Bull Pride]

Who was actually THERE to see this with their own eyes? IF you weren't there, then it's mere speculation as to how the dog really died. No point in arguing about it.

(lol)

[Big Game]

I resent that!!!!!!
I was at every single match ever held Pre-1976
Every last one of them. :mad::p:mad::p:p

[Pit Bull Pride]

I resent that!!!!!!
I was at every single match ever held Pre-1976
Every last one of them. :mad::p:mad::p:p


:p lmao!!!!!!

I DO suppose if it was documented as such by the people who WERE there, it'd be safe to assume that he died from injuries from that match.

[SPFDOGS]

Who was actually THERE to see this with their own eyes? IF you weren't there, then it's mere speculation as to how the dog really died. No point in arguing about it.

(lol)

FB & BC were both there, and each of these men wrote into The Truth(which was a publication put out by Doc Holiday) saying that Bullyson was laid out under a shade tree with everyone standing around him when he died..DM was the one who stated that MC shot him in the SECOND article(which was years later) he wrote about the Bullson/BennyBob ordeal..

[SPFDOGS]

its funny cause after Bullyson quit AND WAS SHOT BY OLE MAN CARVER, his son that beat him, Benny bob, quit also and was shot, then Bullyson Jr. tried to jump the pit...... theres no point to agrue these points....... and ill say it one more time...... PAPER HANGING went on during those days so you really dont know how that Bullyson "stuff" is actually bred up...... ohh and it was a .32 pistol that was used on Bullyson, the same gun Carver carried in his boots

There really is no point in arguing, call JC, or better yet, call FB and congradulate him on his recent victory in court, and then ask him about how Bullyson died..Both of these men are not hard to get ahold of, and Im sure there are people on this board that talk to both men..Call them and get it straight from the horses mouth..

[TripleJ]

I stand corrected. I do not belive Jeep quit But I did read somewhere that there was some Controversy surrounding his match with Homer. I cant remember details or where I read it. Big Game
You would be right! it was told to me also BY A MAN THAT WAS THERE! iT WAS AT THE PIT BULL EPOURIOUM(SP) Old mans peats place I belive. ( what was said not starting shit, I think jeep blood is as good as any BUT Jeep was starting to get out of it and tried to jump and was pulled back in by homer then J.C. talked jeep back up and put him back in the game where we all know what happened) I was not there but I do belive the old man he has made as many great dogs as any man that has walked this earth ,tand has no reason to lie he even has Jeep blood but like he said The truth is the truth! and look how many great dogs came down from Jeep. And to the guy that said paper hanging whent on those days LOL Its still going on you do not know what you have unless you breed them. as long as people can make money off pups there will allways be shady deals.

[Pit Bull Pride]

FB & BC were both there, and each of these men wrote into The Truth(which was a publication put out by Doc Holiday) saying that Bullyson was laid out under a shade tree with everyone standing around him when he died..DM was the one who stated that MC shot him in the SECOND article(which was years later) he wrote about the Bullson/BennyBob ordeal..


Thank you for the edu-ma-cation :)

It'd be neat to talk to some of these old timers.

[who]

its funny how some people are glorified over the internet and computer dogman,,,,,,, certain "famous dogman" built their legacy and others were built by the dogs that matched....... and look at a "old dogman's" PIT RECORD? how many shows they put on? who they matched into? compare side by side and then ask to talk wit someone

[SPFDOGS]

You would be right! it was told to me also BY A MAN THAT WAS THERE! iT WAS AT THE PIT BULL EPOURIOUM(SP) Old mans peats place I belive. ( what was said not starting shit, I think jeep blood is as good as any BUT Jeep was starting to get out of it and tried to jump and was pulled back in by homer then J.C. talked jeep back up and put him back in the game where we all know what happened) I was not there but I do belive the old man he has made as many great dogs as any man that has walked this earth ,tand has no reason to lie he even has Jeep blood but like he said The truth is the truth! and look how many great dogs came down from Jeep. And to the guy that said paper hanging whent on those days LOL Its still going on you do not know what you have unless you breed them. as long as people can make money off pups there will allways be shady deals.

Triple J you are thinking about Coop's Weenie..But even Mr.C wrote a article proclaiming Jeep to be a game dog..Confusion can sometimes be interpetated as making bad moves, and in this case it is just what it was..Mr.C himself wrote that Jeep didnt make any moves toward the side..

[SPFDOGS]

its funny how some people are glorified over the internet and computer dogman,,,,,,, certain "famous dogman" built their legacy and others were built by the dogs that matched....... and look at a "old dogman's" PIT RECORD? how many shows they put on? who they matched into? compare side by side and then ask to talk wit someone

What people are being glorified?.Both of the men who's initials I mentioned were PRESENT at the affair that was being disscused..If you were to call them and simply ask them how Bullyson died Im sure you would find out the TRUTH..

[TripleJ]

Triple J you are thinking about Coop's Weenie..But even Mr.C wrote a article proclaiming Jeep to be a game dog..Confusion can sometimes be interpetated as making bad moves, and in this case it is just what it was..Mr.C himself wrote that Jeep didnt make any moves toward the side..
If you say so, I could have sworn he said homer, and the man that told me this was the same one who bred and shown Gr Ch Bad Billy, (Stricklands BadBilly) Now that was quite a few years ago so it may had been weenie but I know for a fact! he said Tried to JUMP THE WALL.!! and he aint never lied to anyone about dogs, His ,Yours ,Mine or anyone eles. Maybe He had Confusion ,I dont know ,I was not there .But I do know that man seen a load of dogs before and after and allways called it straight. J

[SPFDOGS]

Ive heard the story about Jeep "trying" to head over the wall..It was against Weenie..Weenies' preferance as far as style goes, was to go straight to where the doodoo comes out, and he attached himself to Jeep by the base of the tail/ass..Jeep looking confused, began turning, and spining in a attempt to free himself/ secure his own hold..After awhile he did, and the rest is history..
There is a well known fancier on another board that was present the night(handling a female) Homer met Jeep..I will try and find out what he says about the show..

[SnoopyII]

Triple J you are thinking about Coop's Weenie..But even Mr.C wrote a article proclaiming Jeep to be a game dog..Confusion can sometimes be interpetated as making bad moves, and in this case it is just what it was..Mr.C himself wrote that Jeep didnt make any moves toward the side..

Mr. Carver told Vince Copper not to fight the Weenie dog into Jeep that night (the dog was ill from travel sickness) He did it anyway. Would the weenie dog have bailed under perfect conditions? Who can say. Probably.

Jeep would have beaten the Weenie dog on The Weenie dog's best night.