East Coast?

[chinsnpits]

I didn't want to create a "What breeders are there?" thread, because I know with some research you can normally find someone.


While I am in no way planning on acquiring another dog in the near future- I am the type to research well in advance before bringing something home. So I'd like to start researching breeders, and trying to find someone who has the dogs I like; Is reputable; and has dogs with GOOD temperaments.

I am normally an "only rescue" type person...However, at some point I would like to have an APBT that I can work with.

The most common breeders I am finding are the "american bully" style dogs. I'm having a heck of a time finding someone located in PA, or fairly close that seems even close to being a reputable breeder and not just another run-of-the-mill make a buck breeders. I did find one I believe in NJ that I have put on my "list" to look into and see if she has any breedings planned when I am getting closer to actually adding a dog. It just seems wrong to pay $1500.00 for a dog; when there are dogs just as nice sitting in a shelter, too.

Can anyone point me in the right directions? If possible I'd like to find someone who has been involved with the breed for several years; and chances are won't be going anywhere in the next several years.


Sorry this turned into a book!

[bullydogs]

I didn't want to create a "What breeders are there?" thread, because I know with some research you can normally find someone.


While I am in no way planning on acquiring another dog in the near future- I am the type to research well in advance before bringing something home. So I'd like to start researching breeders, and trying to find someone who has the dogs I like; Is reputable; and has dogs with GOOD temperaments.

I am normally an "only rescue" type person...However, at some point I would like to have an APBT that I can work with.

The most common breeders I am finding are the "american bully" style dogs. I'm having a heck of a time finding someone located in PA, or fairly close that seems even close to being a reputable breeder and not just another run-of-the-mill make a buck breeders. I did find one I believe in NJ that I have put on my "list" to look into and see if she has any breedings planned when I am getting closer to actually adding a dog. It just seems wrong to pay $1500.00 for a dog; when there are dogs just as nice sitting in a shelter, too.

Can anyone point me in the right directions? If possible I'd like to find someone who has been involved with the breed for several years; and chances are won't be going anywhere in the next several years.


Sorry this turned into a book!

Hello, its good to hear that you are willing to do some research before diving right in.

If you are just doing a random search for "Pit Bull" puppies on the net....a lot of American Bully sites are gonna pop up.

My first bit of advice for you would be to write down all the things you want and expect in your future puppy. There are many variables that must be taken into consideration. If you already have dogs...keep in mind that you will probably have to keep them separated. Most all APBT's have DA, which is a common trait. Handling a true APBT is IMO is unlike handling any other breed of dog. And being fully prepared, and educated is vital IMO.

Being a member on this forum is a good start. There are several knowledgeable members with tons of exp. dealing with owning and caring for these dogs. There are also some weight pull & conformation shows here on the east coast....where you might be able to meet some people locally with dogs that interest you.

Sounds like you are in no rush, and that is a good thing. Continue to educate yourself daily. The APBT is under a lot of fire right now. A lot of people overlook things like responsible ownership. Some choice to obtain & learn later. And sadly this hardly ever works.

You seem to be on the right track. Pm me the kennel that you put on your list in NJ...if you would like.

[chinsnpits]

Thank you for the reply.

I do have an APBT(possibly a mix, I will never know) currently. I've had him for just about a year now, and have researched the breed on-and off since about 2004.

One of the reasons why I would like to purchase a well-bred dog is because of the things I'm running into with him. He just simply does not have the temperment I came to expect in this breed. While I love him, and he really IS a great dog- There are a few issues. I'm sure this is because of not being a well-bred dog, coming from a shelter and having god knows what go on in his life. My sister adopted an amazing APBT from the shelter a few years back; so I guess I just got "lucky" with my pick.

One of my main problems with Gavin, is that he challenges like crazy. You constantly have to be on your toes, and can't let him take an inch because he'll take a mile. He has snapped at us while being disicplined(being made to get OFF the couch)--but going to obedience school has helped a lot.


I really am in no rush. I currently have a total of three dogs-- and Gavin is semi-dog aggressive(Certian "triggers" set him off--but i've come to be able to read him, very well). So it will just be a long process of finding and eliminating breeders, and hopefully when I am ready they are still around.

[Rocky H. Balboa]

Do some more homework. There are several breeders in this area (NY/NJ/PA). I will give you one PIK. Now, like Bullydogs stated, gather your thoughts on what you want and visit show events. This combination will ultimately help you find what you want. Much luck in your research and breed education.

[Rocky H. Balboa]

Wait a minute....wait one fre@king minute! Bullydogs a Moderator????? No man, you went to the dark side....We were supposed to be the rebels...the untamed ones...The untouchables....Now, there is only one.:cool:

[BoiBoi]

....Now, there is only one.:cool:


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[Rocky H. Balboa]

Thank you for the reply.

I do have an APBT(possibly a mix, I will never know) currently. I've had him for just about a year now, and have researched the breed on-and off since about 2004.

One of the reasons why I would like to purchase a well-bred dog is because of the things I'm running into with him. He just simply does not have the temperment I came to expect in this breed. While I love him, and he really IS a great dog- There are a few issues. I'm sure this is because of not being a well-bred dog, coming from a shelter and having god knows what go on in his life. My sister adopted an amazing APBT from the shelter a few years back; so I guess I just got "lucky" with my pick.

Typical thought process for a person new to the breed. These dogs are not supposed to be perfect. Everyone has some sort of issue with their dogs. Sometimes people expect this breed to be better behaved than people....in these case, you expected this pup to be better behaved than a child.:rolleyes: Raising dogs is not easy and comes with issues you are supposed to correct. Nope....no instruction booklet attached.

One of my main problems with Gavin, is that he challenges like crazy. You constantly have to be on your toes, and can't let him take an inch because he'll take a mile. He has snapped at us while being disicplined(being made to get OFF the couch)--but going to obedience school has helped a lot.

lol, typical for an alpha breed at puppy stage. That is one of the reasons we constantly state that this breed is not for MOST people. You need to make it absolutely clear everyone in the family is higher ranked than him. If he snaps for any reason, you go get him and even chase him around for a bit. You need to be stern in your correction now so you do not have a developed issue later when dog is an adult. Food, water, couch, toys....all need to be used for your training with your current dog. Only until you have fully educated your dog could you start thinking of another one.

I really am in no rush. I currently have a total of three dogs-- and Gavin is semi-dog aggressive(Certian "triggers" set him off--but i've come to be able to read him, very well). So it will just be a long process of finding and eliminating breeders, and hopefully when I am ready they are still around.

If Gavin is the dog not yet one year old.....watch out because he will turn on and will no longer be semi-dog aggressive. Be watchful this coming year and buy yourself breaking sticks because from the sound of it, you will have a dog accident in the next few months. Just wait, the storm is coming....do you have your umbrella (sticks)?

[Rocky H. Balboa]

swwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww~...........SAY WHAT........:D


:o lol....hmmm, i meant two...hehehehe

[chinsnpits]

Gavin is about 15 months, He started to developed his dog aggression around 6-7 months of age. So if/when he turns on more, we will see. Hense why he is never left unsupervised without the dogs, and why the dog aggression isn't an issue. Something I totally expected with the breed, and something I would never hold against him.

Because I am not planning on running out and getting a dog within the next few months, or years for that matter, as I have my hands full with him and the other dogs, plus my breeding program with my chinchillas- I don't have the time for another dog/puppy- I am just doing some research so when I am ready I know who to turn to. When doing a search for "American Pit Bull Terrier breeders in PA" I yielded MANY results for razor edge, gotti, and other similar bloodlines. Something I want to avoid.


I wouldn't say I expected him to be better then a child...well, I'd expect him better then my nephew--but my nephew is a little demon, LOL... I guess, I didn't think an APBT would be a dog I'd be afraid of in the beginning. Am I afraid of him now? No, I learned how to handle him, and he now respects me. I didn't expect a "bomb proof dog" however, I did expect what many owners claim an APBT to be. I am fairly knew to this forum, but was on another for several years--which is where my "way of thinking" came into play. From what I've read by many-- He shouldn't be snapping, He shouldn't be charging the cage when he's made to be crated and doesn't want to go in, or when he needs to move off the couch that he isn't allowed on to begin with. Since going through obedience classes, he has become a MUCH better dog, however. Working with him, constantly doing his commands/drills has made him respect me much more, which really has helped.

[Suki]

"He shouldn't be snapping, He shouldn't be charging the cage when he's made to be crated and doesn't want to go in, or when he needs to move off the couch that he isn't allowed on to begin with".

nope, he shouldn't be doing these things at all! sounds like he's still a bit 'confused' as to his role in his pack, and is still very much "testing" you to find out exactly where it is, he does belong. a human should always be the alpha. When he "tests" you, be consistent about the reprimands and nip that behavior in the butt every time. EVERY time! otherwise he will continue to test his bounds and the only thing that'll transpire is confusion on his behalf and anger on yours.
be firm with your commands, as the tone in your voice, not how loud it becomes, is what he will respond to.
glad to hear he's going to school~sounds like he needs it and it's beneficial for you both.
glad to be reading you're doing some research, however, i'd personally focus on getting his behavior under complete control before acquiring another dog, as i'm thinking, not only will he test you, but the new dog, as well, and it sounds like you've got your hands pretty well full enuff at this time. the more you continue to both work with and gain knowledge about, you'll see most APBT's do have good temperments. so, i'd work with your boy a lil more, and when the time comes, acquire a younger female to accompany him. she'll be "less of a threat" to him, which will make life easier for you.
and agreed, 1500, compared to a good, well balanced shelter dog seems a bit unnecessary.

[bahamutt99]

To make a suggestion on the "finding a future breeder" portion, get to those shows! ADBA, UKC, AADR, whatever is available in your area. Look at the people who are there showing/working the kind of dog you're interested in, and strike up a conversation when they're done in the ring. Ask if you can meet their dog when they've got a moment, and see if its the temperament you're looking for. Then ask them if they can point you in the right direction.

[Patch O' Pits]

To make a suggestion on the "finding a future breeder" portion, get to those shows! ADBA, UKC, AADR, whatever is available in your area. Look at the people who are there showing/working the kind of dog you're interested in, and strike up a conversation when they're done in the ring. Ask if you can meet their dog when they've got a moment, and see if its the temperament you're looking for. Then ask them if they can point you in the right direction. I totally agree:)

[brat pack]

Also, I didn't see if your male is neutered. If he is not, it would probably be in your best interest to do so. In my experience, males come of age around 2 to 3 years of age if not sooner. I have a male that is registered but has several faults that I love but was never planning on breeding that I neutered. I also had another male not registered that I neutered at the same time. It really calmed them down a lot. One more so than the other. Totally glad I had it done.
Definitely get those break sticks. A responsible owner wouldn't be without one. Never know when you might need it. Always better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.:)

[Marty]

Wait a minute....wait one fre@king minute! Bullydogs a Moderator????? No man, you went to the dark side....We were supposed to be the rebels...the untamed ones...The untouchables....Now, there is only one.:cool:Want to jump the fence?

[chinsnpits]

He is neutered. Since he was a shelter dog, he had to be neutered 2 weeks after he was brought home :)

Hopefully maybe next year I can start getting to shows, and just meeting some people, so when I am ready I will atleast have a rough idea of who has the 'type' of dog I want, and where to start.