Razors edge puppies

[bigcity]

I am just looking for a house dog and just wanted opions as to if there is anything mixed in with it. I dont need a game dog but want a pitbull. From what I have read on here most look at razors edge badly. But not looking for an athletic dog just a cool fun house pet. Any help would be appciated

The first pic is the male
The second is the female
The third is the puppy

The have ukc pappers that go back 6 generations and the puppies are $800

[texas_dogger]

Well I will start with this. I personally would never own a re or any other big blue mutt but im not looking for a house dog either. If I was it wouldnt be that. You said you want a "pitbull" but not a gamebred apbt I hate to break it to ya but there is no such thing as a true apbt that isnt gamebred in my opinion. If I was you I would look into ast dogs its more of what you are after I think. I would not suggest a re or gotti dog to anyone thats considering owning a family pet in my life because of a few reasons and here they are: tempermental, to big, unhealthy (to say the least), all around not a good pet. Look into some bred to type ast dogs from a reliable breeder that would be your best bet.JMHOT_D:)

[Dr_jitsu]

Actually, if you just wanted a house dog to sit around, look cute, and pet why not get a blue...they are cute, just don't expect it to do anything and please don't call it a Pit Bull. Call it what it is, a blue bully. Your friends and neighbors will also be more accepting.

[jason r]

I dont need a game dog but want a pitbull. If you do not know the difference between breeds,you might want to go with a cat or lizard or something else.

[frenchie1936]

we all start somehwrere right? i will be the first to admit it, i also used to have a couple of RE dogs. CRAP. but there is a market for everything and experience is key to producing good bulldogs.

[bahamutt99]

Leaving off the bloodline discussion, I would ask what you're getting for your $800. That's more than I paid for any of my APBTs. Are the parents extensively titled, to be selling their offspring at that price? Did they get all the health testing done, since surely you want to know that mom and dad are healthy? Or is the price just based on color, or better yet, some arbitrary number the breeder cooked up to reflect how much profit they want to make?

Ya know, if you don't want a gamebred dog, and you aren't looking for a dog to do competitions with, if all you want is a pet and you don't care about the breeding behind it, I don't see why you wouldn't just rescue one. They've got blues there, too, ya know. ;)

[ISUZU]

Dang,

$800 is alot for a Bully dog. I just got a Reg. ADBA APBT Male with INDIAN BOLIO (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=43) & Pat Patrick for $100 and it's only 2 years of age. :)

[Howzit]

I am just looking for a house dog and just wanted opions as to if there is anything mixed in with it. I dont need a game dog but want a pitbull. From what I have read on here most look at razors edge badly. But not looking for an athletic dog just a cool fun house pet. Any help would be appciated

The first pic is the male
The second is the female
The third is the puppy

The have ukc pappers that go back 6 generations and the puppies are $800

If you just want a pet those razors edge dogs make good house dogs as they are just laid back and not very high strung. I went to a weight pull once and seen alot of blue razors edge type of dogs standing there in the fields and they look like huge cows grazing in the pasture LOL.

[PirbulBongo]

If you want a pitbull but not APBT there are lots of homeless dogs out there that are for free and you would do something positive for those poor dogs, instead of putting more money on the byb or peddlers that are responsible of those homeless dogs by irresponsible breedings made just for money.

[ColbyDogs]

Ya know, if you don't want a gamebred dog, and you aren't looking for a dog to do competitions with, if all you want is a pet and you don't care about the breeding behind it, I don't see why you wouldn't just rescue one. They've got blues there, too, ya know. ;)

Thats what i was going to suggest.

If you just want a pet then why not get a dog from the shelter ? There are plenty of good dogs in the shelter that would love nothing more than another chance to be someones pet again.

I know shelter dogs do not have a pedigree or anything to brag on but you can find a good dog that fits the bill of what your looking for. In the end all you want is a pet so keep your $800 and get a dog that deserves another chance.

[ABK]

I agree. Why not check out a place like Pit Bull Rescue Central? They have TONS of blues there, to include the bully type.

[poundAPBT]

If you want a pet bull, please go to www.petfinder.com

You can find tons of pups there (for a lot cheaper than those poorly bred, overbred lines).

[TripleJ]

I am just looking for a house dog and just wanted opions as to if there is anything mixed in with it. I dont need a game dog but want a pitbull. From what I have read on here most look at razors edge badly. But not looking for an athletic dog just a cool fun house pet. Any help would be appciated

The first pic is the male
The second is the female
The third is the puppy

The have ukc pappers that go back 6 generations and the puppies are $800
WHY would you or any one pay 800$ for a fat a$$ mutt? save your money and go to the pound you may find a blue mutt for about 50 bucks. And you wont have to feed as long when your little fad wears off. THOSE ARE HIGH PRICED PUPPY PEDDLERS DOGS. If you want a pit bull get a pit bull not a sloppy fat tub of mixed curr dog. JMO Oh those ukc dont meen squat really no papers meen squat you have to trust the breeder. The dog world has breeders come and go and anyone selling pups for that much is in it for one thing TO make money off dogs. I wouldnt pay 8 bills for any pup. Dont get took learn first. YIS J

[coolhandjean]

A Gamebred APBT can make an excellent house dog, as long as you know enough about the breed, and realize it needs a lot of exercise...

But I agree with poundAPBT, if you just want a house pet, there are many dogs, especially "pit bulls" in the shelters/rescues that need a forever home.

[RainyCity]

Personally think $800.00 is too high for just a pet.

If you look at the local APBT rescues there's a lot of different choices. You can pick the size, color, weight, sex, and most important to you is the personality. Most are in foster and they would let you know if it is laid back dog that is good in the house.

Also you might have to be patient until the best dog for you comes along.

Good Luck!

[Dr_jitsu]

Triple,

Come on now, are you telling me that that son of Ch Crazy Legs I am getting is not worth $800, LOL. http://www.game-dog.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28190

[TripleJ]

Triple,

Come on now, are you telling me that that son of Ch Crazy Legs I am getting is not worth $800, LOL. http://www.game-dog.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28190Not to me I can breed to that stuff any time I want I helped with tater and have breed rights to his brother if I want. And crazylegs aint a blue mutt LOL. J

[Dr_jitsu]

Post a ped of the stuff you can breed to.

[Atwater27]

I agree with the first reply.

Why not just get an AKC papered AST? You would probably get better luck getting one of those dogs since Amstaff breeders are usually more likely to test their dogs. Now that I think of it, I wonder why more people that just want a pet don't go the amstaff route. Oh yeah, they want a pitbull for the name pitbull. But at the same time, I don't think all these people get these dogs to enlarge their penis size in their heads. Maybe some people just don't know about staffs in general and I don't think this is the publics fault. I have only met a handful of people to actually tell me that they have a staff. There just aren't allot of AKC staffs out there and it seems like there will continue to be even less with the UKC registering these staffs as APBT's. Amstaffs a couple of years ago now have offspring that are being called full fledged APBT's by some very reputable breeders.

Ah, but I digress. I am just rambling now

[simms]

I am just looking for a house dog and just wanted opions as to if there is anything mixed in with it. I dont need a game dog but want a pitbull. From what I have read on here most look at razors edge badly. But not looking for an athletic dog just a cool fun house pet. Any help would be appciated

The first pic is the male
The second is the female
The third is the puppy

The have ukc pappers that go back 6 generations and the puppies are $800
go to the pound or a reputable APBT rescue. Do not buy a dog if you dont know exactly what it is you are looking for.

There are lot's of cool and fun dogs at the pound!

[TripleJ]

Post a ped of the stuff you can breed to.Yea right!!!! NO way! I dont share my woman and you damn sure aint seeing how my dogs are bred. I leave all that show and tell to you guys so when they fail I know what Not to do. LOL use your head I told you I can breed to taters bellie mate brother any time and I havent yet. I thought about it but I really am fond of my stuff (Jigger-Cherrybomb) It aint broke So I aint fixing it. I learnd long ago good dogs are where you find them and pappers dont mean squat My dogs are some of the tightest bullyson around and they are just how the old man bred them today. But I do like jessies dogs they are coming like I said. I just like to catch my meat and head home quick. Im to old to hang out all night in the woods. YIS J

[Dr_jitsu]

Just as I expected...all talk and no hunt.:D

[GSDbulldog]

If all you want is a good house dog, why not try www.petfinder.com or www.pbrc.net ;) Save a life, and get a damn good dog in the process.

[simms]

Just as I expected...all talk and no hunt.:D
This is a public msg board. Some folk do infact have alot to loose. Would I entertain you....Not NO, But F%ck NO!!!! If you realy need to know get on the phone and find out. I bypassed your other thread cause loose lips sink ships and you will tell everything you know, or enough anyway's!

[Dr_jitsu]

This is a public msg board. Some folk do infact have alot to loose. Would I entertain you....Not NO, But F%ck NO!!!! If you realy need to know get on the phone and find out. I bypassed your other thread cause loose lips sink ships and you will tell everything you know, or enough anyway's!

I know all about Tater and his former owners and where they reside nowadays. I am not going to discuss it on a public forum but I am also not going to apologize for supporting my breeder by paying a fair price for his product.

[Rocky H. Balboa]

Just as I expected...all talk and no hunt.:D

I know all about Tater and his former owners and where they reside nowadays. I am not going to discuss it on a public forum but I am also not going to apologize for supporting my breeder by paying a fair price for his product.

You MAY be a professor but when it comes to this world, you are still in diapers or (worst case scenario) are working for the humaniacs. There is something about you that just does not match.......hmmm. lol

If you are on the up and up, you need to humble yourself into realizing your intellect does not cut in this world. Personally, i had to swallow a big chunk of humble pie and shut the F up. I may be educated and may have read tons of books but only learned EXPERIENCE makes a dogman.

Take my words as a polite way of advising you to sit, learn, and ask questions.

[MTNDOG]

I am just looking for a house dog and just wanted opions as to if there is anything mixed in with it. I dont need a game dog but want a pitbull. From what I have read on here most look at razors edge badly. But not looking for an athletic dog just a cool fun house pet. Any help would be appciated

The first pic is the male
The second is the female
The third is the puppy

The have ukc pappers that go back 6 generations and the puppies are $800

I would recommend a bully, going by what you want in the dog. Don't let someone else tell you what you want, if thats what you want, go for it.

[woody d]

go get yourself a mutt...a pure apbt is too much for a newbie. close the circle folks....sound familiar?

[Dr_jitsu]

Rocky,

I agree with you I do have a lot to learn. One thing I learned recently was not to pay 2k for a pup off a dog that didn't even make it through his schooling, which is what you advised me to do.

By the way, I enjoyed hearing about your e-mails "warning" people about me. To be honest, I don't blame you for being paranoid...actually, in todays political/legal environment what you did really can't be classified as paranoia...you were probably just looking out for people which I applaud. However in this case it was misplaced.

[Rocky H. Balboa]

Rocky,

I agree with you I do have a lot to learn. One thing I learned recently was not to pay 2k for a pup off a dog that didn't even make it through his schooling, which is what you advised me to do.

Hold on a second, I never mentioned schooling or anything of the sort. That would be talking dogs with someone that i do not know...it would also be contrary to what i advised "people" (U mentioned below).

I did say something about a PERSON's education level and their lie that they have an MBA. Continued by stating i too was fooled into believing this.

By the way, I enjoyed hearing about your e-mails "warning" people about me. To be honest, I don't blame you for being paranoid...actually, in todays political/legal environment what you did really can't be classified as paranoia...you were probably just looking out for people which I applaud. However in this case it was misplaced.

People...or rather person. I advised him to be clear in your conversations and not to leave anything to misunderstanding. I reminded him that there are people out there that will try every way possible to get others to exaggerate/brag about their dogs. This can lead to another kennel closed.

The only thing I gained from warning that someone was prevent dogs from ending up dead, or at least that was my intent. I will not apologize for my good will intentions. I will wish you luck and wisdom with your present and future endeavors in and out of the dogs. Lastly, don't feel bad...i too was considered a possible "enemy of our dogs, ways" when i first got into these dogs. I never got mad and fully understood their concerns. Glad to read you at least wrote same.

Yours in Script,


Rocky H. Balboa

[Dr_jitsu]

Its all good Rocky...as I am sure you heard I got my dog and am giving him a loving home where he will be a great representative of our breed. I agree that your intentions were honorable.

[bigcity]

Hey just wanted to say that I have rescued 3 pitbulls in the last 8 years and liked all of them. This time i just want a puppy to have from a little guy. I understand the rescue option and think its a great thing but this time its not for me

As far as not knowing about the breed I might not know bloodlines and the such but about 10 years ago I bought my first pitbull and have had 6 since them so I am not new to the breed. 3 of thoos doga are still with my parents and are well trained good dogs.

I am thinling now that an arm staff might be the way to go, thanx for all your help guys

[bigcity]

http://www.diamondcpitbull.com/index.html

What about these guys?

[fullpullkennels]

The first Bulldog i ever got was a Edge dog, and she is blue, but she is a 50 pound fireball. She dont look nothing like these Edge dogs you see on the internet, but she is scatterbred so she is about a quarter edge(i think the breeder was trying to get all blues). I love her to death and would not get rid of her, but she is the only blue that I have. The more I learn the more my taste change for these dogs. I dont have a problem with blue dogs If they meet the standard for APBT, but i dont like the american bullies, there just do not appeal to me.

[BELIZEPIT]

had a razors edge blue once, what a mistake! he was a man biter from hell, had him since he was a pup too. had to put him down, it was sad. :( I will never have anythink but a Gamebreed pitbull-the smartest,friendliest dogs there are.

[Claddagh_Reds]

I think it's been said several times but why not adopt a rescue dog? I've seen tons of blue bully razor edge type dogs plastered all over the internet for adoption. Just a thought. Sure beats paying the high prices for one if thats what you want. They usually come fixed, utd on all vaccines, some rescue places even offer free check ups or certain vet care for a year.

just a thought and suggustion. But if not, choose a breeder you can trust in the long run

[Big Game]

Just a thought and suggustion. But if not, choose a breeder you can trust in the long run.
This is great advice for anyone new to these dogs. Everyone gets all hung up on bloodlines. Try and develop a relationships with dogmen in youre area. The best blood to go with is the blood being ran by someone you can trust and consider a friend. The breeder will always have more influince on the quality of dog being produced than the blood itself. Big Game

[Big Game]

Also. If you are new to these dogs you are going to need guidence. Any peddler can sell you a dog with a pritty pedigree. A Breeder will always be a visit or phone call away.

[bigcity]

B
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[Tonka03]

GO RESCUE ONE FROM THE POUND!!!


Tony

[bigcity]

GO RESCUE ONE FROM THE POUND!!!


Tony

Why does everyone keep pimping the pound when i have said I have done that in the past and it is not what I am chooseing to do this time around. I know what I want and I am going to go about it and learn all i can before buying the right puppie from a reputible breeder. I havent bouhgt a dog yet and will not untill I find what I am looking for from someone I trust

[ColbyDogs]

Why does everyone keep pimping the pound when i have said I have done that in the past and it is not what I am chooseing to do this time around. I know what I want and I am going to go about it and learn all i can before buying the right puppie from a reputible breeder. I havent bouhgt a dog yet and will not untill I find what I am looking for from someone I trust

The reason why people keep pimping the pound is that the shelters are over run with unwanted dogs and puppies.....yes puppies and you have stated that you in fact want a puppy that is only going to be a house dog.

If you want an American Bully style dog by all means just come out and say that is what you want, dont pussyfoot around it just say it. It is going to be your dog and you'll be the one feeding it so who cares what we all think or say. The fact that you intend on doing nothing with the dog other than having it as a pet is going to continue to get the same answer over and over.

What is the advantage of paying for a puppy that you have admitted your going to do nothing with over a shelter puppy to which you would do the same thing with ? Now do you see why people keep going right back to the whole shelter thing ?

JMHO

[Titch_Pitbull]

He knows what he wants. He doesnt want a rescue dog. Why cant people accept that. Half the people screaming go to the pound have never rescued a dog themselves. talk about practise what you preach

[ColbyDogs]

He knows what he wants. He doesnt want a rescue dog. Why cant people accept that. Half the people screaming go to the pound have never rescued a dog themselves. talk about practise what you preach

And some of us do, I am not preaching anything that I do not practice my self.

[bigcity]

He knows what he wants. He doesnt want a rescue dog. Why cant people accept that. Half the people screaming go to the pound have never rescued a dog themselves. talk about practise what you preach

Thats exactly what Im saying. I have rescued many dogs from the pound and have placed countless cats, dogs, and even a rabbit. I chose not to now. I want a puppy, My first pit bull i got was a puppy and I want abother one now. I understand there is dogs there that will make great pets, but not for me.

As far as wanting an american bully this is not what I want. I only happened to like the blue color but gave up looking for a blue dog becasue I dont think im going to find a blue dog that is actually a full pit bull.

And I dont just want a house pet I plan on running with the dog and weight pull

[texas_dogger]

AST from a reputable breeder? Ever think about that? It wont be as intense as a APBT, but it seems like the best choice for what you want which is a pet that will do good at jogging/weightpull, wont have the health issues a big blue dog has, but will still do good in the house.

[texas_dogger]

He knows what he wants. He doesnt want a rescue dog. Why cant people accept that. Half the people screaming go to the pound have never rescued a dog themselves. talk about practise what you preach

If he knows what he wants why is he asking what we think? How do you know that the people that are sugesting a rescue havent ever rescued before? Have you called them or been on their yard? He is going to do what he wants anyway so why is he asking for our opinion?

[Red Cocaine]

the dogs that come from the pound come FIXED...... maybe thats why he doesn't want one from there..... allot Rescue dogs are really good dogs I've got 2

[ColbyDogs]

And I dont just want a house pet I plan on running with the dog and weight pull

This is what you origanally wrote correct ?



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I am just looking for a house dog

You never mentioned anything about working the dog. If you asked about pull dogs you probably would have gotten better answers to what you are looking for.

[bigcity]

This is what you origanally wrote correct ?



You never mentioned anything about working the dog. If you asked about pull dogs you probably would have gotten better answers to what you are looking for.

Yeah sorry about that. The most important thing is a house dog, but I will also run with the dog and maybe trying weight pull. I am just looking for other peoples opions on a reputable kennel. I appreciate your opininos colby.

[bigcity]

Instead of staring a new thread couled anyone recomend any books on general training and APBT breed information. Tryed doind a seach on this site for books but didnt come up with much. any help would be great

[texas_dogger]

If you know what you want as you have stated then why are you wasting peoples time replying to your thread? Seems to me you need to do more homework and not bother others about what you should get we arent feeding it. Know what I mean? Many people have suggested different things which have all been good suggestions but you dont want to hear it so do what you will.

[bigcity]

I am not personally wasting anyones time, you choose to reply. If someone wants to help me out thats cool, if not thats cool to. The only sugestions i have gotton are get a AST Or recue a dog which I am not going to do. Obviously As you said I am not going to get fed the information I want which is a reputable breeder So I will not ask anymore.

[ColbyDogs]

I am getting into weight pulling myself, we are almost old enough to start using weights. So far the information I have gathered is it relies more on you than the dog, although having a good dog doesn't hurt. What area are you from ? I know over these parts MFK Kennels have top notch pull dogs. Again though I have to give credit to the man cause every dog he touches does great on the rails.

[texas_dogger]

REPUTABLE BREEDER OF WHAT? You arent even sure about the breed you want. All you say is a "PIT" do you know how loosely that term is thrown around? From what I gather you dont want a real APBT. WHAT DO YOU WANT???

[Bullyson]

He doesnt mess with peds online. Post a ped of the stuff you can breed to.

[coolhandjean]

Why aren't you going to do Amstaff? I mean it's your choice, I am not knocking you. But an American Bully is okay, but not an Amstaff? Just curious as to why.

Anyway, knowing that you are thinking of doing weight pull changes things a bit. If you want a weight pulling dog, then I know a few good breeders that have weight pull dogs. If you want their links, send me a PM.

[bigcity]

I am getting into weight pulling myself, we are almost old enough to start using weights. So far the information I have gathered is it relies more on you than the dog, although having a good dog doesn't hurt. What area are you from ? I know over these parts MFK Kennels have top notch pull dogs. Again though I have to give credit to the man cause every dog he touches does great on the rails.



I am in the lehigh valley in Pennsylvania. I have heard that as well that it is all in the owner and the bond and training wether the dog will be a good puller

Why aren't you going to do Amstaff? I mean it's your choice, I am not knocking you. But an American Bully is okay, but not an Amstaff? Just curious as to why.

Anyway, knowing that you are thinking of doing weight pull changes things a bit. If you want a weight pulling dog, then I know a few good breeders that have weight pull dogs. If you want their links, send me a PM.

You know to be honest at first I was looking at color before supstance which I realized was not a good idea since All the blue dogs I looked at were american bullies. I never truely relized how big thoose dogs are untill I went to see them in person and boy was I surpised. They look way bigger in person and no my ideal dog. Im use to a male that maybe weighs 50-70 pds where theses dogs are pushing 100 and over, which is just not my cup of tea. As fas as the arm staff goes I just havent seen and kenels that produce armstaffs for pulling, they mostly breed for show.

I attached a picture of my ideal style of dog to give you guys an idea

Thanks for all your help guys

[Atwater27]

I am not personally wasting anyones time, you choose to reply. If someone wants to help me out thats cool, if not thats cool to. The only sugestions i have gotton are get a AST Or recue a dog which I am not going to do. Obviously As you said I am not going to get fed the information I want which is a reputable breeder So I will not ask anymore.


Why wont you get an AST? You can tell people he's a pitbull and I'm sure they'll believe you.


***edit***
ahh, nevermind. I just read your post

[TexasGlock23]

the dogs that come from the pound come FIXED...... maybe thats why he doesn't want one from there..... allot Rescue dogs are really good dogs I've got 2

X2. Take a look at both of mine. Now granted you won't know the history and it take some work, but mine are pretty great! IMO RE and Gotti=low life scums. Or any other BYB for that matter. Do not come on a public forum and expect not to get the exact thing you asked of us. There are many rescue organizations where you can get what you are looking for. Shelters have puppies as well. If you do not plan to breed (which you shouldn't as I am sure you are not willing to do what it takes to be a responsible breeder) and do not plan on showing then adopt or rescue. What is your location? I can assists!

http://www.spindletoppitbullrefuge.org/

http://www.dapbt.org/apbt_rescue.htm

http://www.mabbr.org/

and

www.petfinder.com (http://www.petfinder.com) should get you started. Anything over $100 and I am being generous is far TOO much for one of those NON APBT's you listed!

[TexasGlock23]

Wow, in your area BigCity there are many great kennels and dogmen as well. Many are on here. Search around and you may find something you like. Hell look into twisted kennels they are in NC. I know nothing about them but the dogs looked great, and they do not charge an arm and a leg. Or use the lings above, BTW I am in VA.

[TexasGlock23]

Instead of staring a new thread couled anyone recomend any books on general training and APBT breed information. Tryed doind a seach on this site for books but didnt come up with much. any help would be great

Colby's book

Ed Faron's book

Richard F. Stratton's books

Diane Jessup's book

I have them all but Diane's. Ed's is a must have IMO. Stratton has great literature as well. There are many others...

[texas_dogger]

http://www.anchorchainkennels.com/

[texas_dogger]

Or if you are really that interested in weightpull and you dont want a AST why not look into a AB (really good weightpull dogs)

[texas_dogger]

Decided on anything yet? I might seem rude but I am just trying to get a idea of what you want. Do you know?