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frenchie1936
04-23-2008, 03:27 PM
i haven't heard any discussion on this board about this cross, so i was wondering what yall think of mixing the Six Bits Blood into some Sorrells blood. i have had more than one dogman tell me that it was a phenomenal cross. would love to hear some opinions on this as i have a Jeep/Sorrells bitch. she's as cold as antarctica, but it wouldn't be hard to aquire some nice pure Sorrells blood. now this is just my opinion, but i think a lot of people have been doing this for some time as i have seen a few dogs that were listed as Six Bits dogs but were tri-colored. makes ya think..... :cool:




215pitts
04-23-2008, 03:28 PM
I am still researching it....LOL

BoiBoi
04-23-2008, 03:35 PM
i don't see why it wouldn't have the possibility to work, six bits is basically eli bred and i've heard of the eli/sorrells cross before. The thing is finding some good working sorrells dogs out there

CooljoeGoodie
04-23-2008, 05:21 PM
i don't see why it wouldn't have the possibility to work, six bits is basically eli bred and i've heard of the eli/sorrells cross before. The thing is finding some good working sorrells dogs out thereI agree,it will work but with the right ones.Saw on another board can't remember which one though.But several think it's a good cross.

coco0889
04-23-2008, 05:25 PM
I think that cross could be great. I wouldnt mind having it.

mntman2003
04-23-2008, 05:47 PM
capital city combine did something similar....works good with hammonds blood too. look up tatonka's maximus that one breeding to a hammonds female got a couple winners and a gr. ch I believe??? I get CRS AT TIMES SORRY.

powder925
04-23-2008, 06:04 PM
I dont mean to sound like a prick or anything....but if you are looking to breed gd bulldogs then why would you want to use a cold dog? I can honestly say that I know nothing about breeding bulldogs but to me... breeding a cold dog is kinda like taking a step back if the end result wanted is game dogs.

mntman2003
04-23-2008, 06:09 PM
who said that the dog was cold.

ROSE
04-23-2008, 06:12 PM
I dont mean to sound like a prick or anything....but if you are looking to breed gd bulldogs then why would you want to use a cold dog? I can honestly say that I know nothing about breeding bulldogs but to me... breeding a cold dog is kinda like taking a step back if the end result wanted is game dogs.
Don't let the cold dogs fool you.White's Tru is a clod dog and so far has produced 2 gr.ch. and 1- 2xw.

Pipbull
04-23-2008, 06:13 PM
I dont mean to sound like a prick or anything....but if you are looking to breed gd bulldogs then why would you want to use a cold dog? I can honestly say that I know nothing about breeding bulldogs but to me... breeding a cold dog is kinda like taking a step back if the end result wanted is game dogs.

He said he had a Jeep/Sorrell's dog that was cold, not that he was going to breed it.

powder925
04-23-2008, 06:15 PM
who said that the dog was cold.
sorry...my bad.I didnt see the period....lol

mntman2003
04-23-2008, 06:15 PM
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/offspring.php?dog_id=121386 good example of a good sorrells cross.....could be luck but hay I would of taken a pup.

mntman2003
04-23-2008, 06:16 PM
none taken bro !!!!!! http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=34419 one more for the road lol.

frenchie1936
04-23-2008, 06:37 PM
none taken bro !!!!!! http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=34419 one more for the road lol.



Sheeeee-ittt! now that's what i'm talking about. and i never said i was going to breed my cold female. but being as she's mine i guess i could. however, as you pointed out, it would go against certain moral beliefs when it comes to dogs.

mntman2003
04-23-2008, 07:14 PM
who really knows what works your dogs...if that were the case Tab would of never been bred. But we weren't there maybe Tab was a monster and all the stories are nothing more than fables...:(. good luck.

tommy3
04-23-2008, 08:55 PM
capital city combine did something similar....works good with hammonds blood too. look up tatonka's maximus that one breeding to a hammonds female got a couple winners and a gr. ch I believe??? I get CRS AT TIMES SORRY.


Anyone have the ped on that breeding?

mntman2003
04-23-2008, 10:07 PM
It is the one more for the road one above buddy. We got some dogs from the same peeps will pm you.

Big Game
04-23-2008, 11:13 PM
i don't see why it wouldn't have the possibility to work, six bits is basically eli bred and i've heard of the eli/sorrells cross before. The thing is finding some good working sorrells dogs out there
Sixbits is basicly a Boze dog;).
Go on guys breed youre cold dogs. Matter of fact breed youre cold dogs to freezing cold dogs. Just adds more credibility to a real dogmans program.lol. Big Game

SPFDOGS
04-24-2008, 09:31 AM
none taken bro !!!!!! http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=34419 one more for the road lol.

Crunch outpulled a good son of Ch.Hickory for one of those victories..Also if my memory serves me correct,JK wouldnt reconize this dog as a GrCh,or Ch for that matter..CCC wrote in to one of the other publications of the time venting about this..

SPFDOGS
04-24-2008, 09:34 AM
Sixbits is basicly a Boze dog;).
Go on guys breed youre cold dogs. Matter of fact breed youre cold dogs to freezing cold dogs. Just adds more credibility to a real dogmans program.lol. Big Game

Not saying that I would or wouldnt breed to a cold dog,but Rancherita's Little Gator Rom & StoneCity's Awsome Baby Rom were both cold,and were both FIRST CLASS producers..

Ozzie wrote a article to one of the publications of the day entitled COLD DOGS..It is a very good read dispelling some of the myths about cold dogs being worthless..One of the greatest bulldogs to ever walk the face of this earth (Ch.Cholly Boy) was sired by a cold dog..

mntman2003
04-24-2008, 09:35 AM
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=251478 was freezing when he was whepled in 1/07.....but getting warm now. no I didn't breed em but own him. I think better chance good to good but all of the greatest of all time have done it before(cold breedings) but just less %'s of good turn out. I will say it again TAB!

440rider
04-24-2008, 11:25 AM
BOUDREAUX SCREAM was nice example of sorrells x eli blood(pistol pete was a heavy carver pistol dog). Sixbits is a boze dog (has some eli coming through bullyson/eli jr but not high %) correct but almost anything down from sixbits that jerry bred is going to have an ELI influence through the maverick/rose II or nigger toby blood he used.
There are some tight bred sixbits dogs out there but almost all (minus the sixbit x camoflague/blk beauty breedings) will have 2 of those 3 above listed dogs in the ped bringing in ELI. I think if you're breeding sixbits dogs go out with other eli-eli/boze dogs. I think and out to the right sorrells dog and back into the sixbits/maverick blood will work well. Good luck

frenchie1936
04-24-2008, 12:27 PM
BOUDREAUX SCREAM was nice example of sorrells x eli blood(pistol pete was a heavy carver pistol dog). Sixbits is a boze dog (has some eli coming through bullyson/eli jr but not high %) correct but almost anything down from sixbits that jerry bred is going to have an ELI influence through the maverick/rose II or nigger toby blood he used.
There are some tight bred sixbits dogs out there but almost all (minus the sixbit x camoflague/blk beauty breedings) will have 2 of those 3 above listed dogs in the ped bringing in ELI. I think if you're breeding sixbits dogs go out with other eli-eli/boze dogs. I think and out to the right sorrells dog and back into the sixbits/maverick blood will work well. Good luck



you pretty much laid it out how i was thinking. scream is in my dogs pedigree and so is her daughter, scream 2. and so is maverick, only four times in four generations though. three of those four are on top. and on bottom his influence comes from clemmon's war dog and a dughter off of skull, like scream 2, but by way of madame boudreaux. so i would call him a pretty evenly balanced dog. now i just need a pure sorrells bitch and i'll be happy cause whether my jeep/sorrells bitch is cold or hot i've never been too impressed with jeep crosses. it took owning a few to figure that one out.

440rider
04-24-2008, 01:13 PM
you pretty much laid it out how i was thinking. scream is in my dogs pedigree and so is her daughter, scream 2. and so is maverick, only four times in four generations though. three of those four are on top. and on bottom his influence comes from clemmon's war dog and a dughter off of skull, like scream 2, but by way of madame boudreaux. so i would call him a pretty evenly balanced dog.


take a durango red female to your dog and tighten up on the skull sixbits blood. Don't worry about tightening up the sorrells blood or bringing it back to front ....keep with in the eli family. The sixbits maverick cross is a great cross and you will be pleased with the outcome. If your looking to add something add some eli jr through buy ways of nigger toby, nigerino, T-bud to name a few. Heavy skull/sixbits/nigerino dogs are something from what's been told. If you are set on the sorrells blood go with something bred up like this... http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=89596

take care.

frenchie1936
04-24-2008, 03:06 PM
this has some small nigerino influence.


http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=93838



thanks for the advice too 440

CooljoeGoodie
04-24-2008, 09:44 PM
It seems like you are talking about line breeding a little,so find you some good bullyson dogs too,also like the eli jr stuff to heavy on the art

cheese
04-24-2008, 10:52 PM
Are you talking about B Sorrells or R Sorrells?

440rider
04-25-2008, 10:24 AM
It seems like you are talking about line breeding a little,so find you some good bullyson dogs too

maverick brings in the bullyson (you can tighten up on bullyson through happy jack dogs-midnight cowboy), sixbits brings in boze and t-bud, nigerino, nigger toby brings in eli jr.

yes, r sorrells dogs , the carver pistol dogs!

Yngwie
04-25-2008, 05:45 PM
Ive seen one dog of that cross in action and he was phenomenal, a russian dog i might ad. Extremly fast dog a real destroyer, i think his name was Ch.Gro or something like that.

Marduk
05-04-2008, 03:18 PM
two good bloods...but I guess all depends on the dogs...it is not only the words written on paper...

Regards