Low sitting APBT's-

[NavasInc]

Hello Im from Florida and Im looking for low sitting APBT's. Pure bred no razors edge no gotti lines. Can anyone help me with what type of blood line to look for. Its been a hit and miss situation.
Heres a link to one that Ive found can anyone help me find a kennel similar in Florida?Or where to find them here in Florida? Maybe another question is what type of bloodline should I be looking for??

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=95232 (http://http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=95232)

-Thanx 4 your time

[NavasInc]

If that link dont work try this. Rudy from Screamers Kennels (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=95232)

[rosco91382]

Link doesnt work and WTF is a low sittin APBT?
Drew

[Bullyson]

Im not sure if there is a bloodline that is known for throwing squatty dogs. Your best bet would be to look around a bit. If you can see the parents, you should have a good idea as to what the offspring will look like, if you're into looks. :)Hello Im from Florida and Im looking for low sitting APBT's. Pure bred no razors edge no gotti lines. Can anyone help me with what type of blood line to look for. Its been a hit and miss situation.
Heres a link to one that Ive found can anyone help me find a kennel similar in Florida?Or where to find them here in Florida? Maybe another question is what type of bloodline should I be looking for??

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=95232 (http://http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=95232)

-Thanx 4 your time

[rosco91382]

I see your pic but that doesnt look like a true to standard APBT
Maybe an APBT mix w/ english bulldog
Drew

[NavasInc]

LOL roscoe. Like a short APBT. NOt as long legged. Im looking for a fiesty short APBT kinda like the one pictured. Did you try the second link?

[NavasInc]

No I dont want it if its mixed. Are you sure he mixed cuz the papers show APBT's all the way through and the kennels there at Screamers kennels look like they have straight APBT but maybe im wrong. I just like how how small and muscled up he looks.small diesel pits are what im lookin for not the long legged guys

[Bullyson]

The dog in my avatar was a low rider and I can assure you he was all bulldog. Alot of people like the lower dogs for one reason or another. I dont really have a preference. Ive seen bad ass dogs that were long legged athletes and ones like Rock, who were low with mouths like bear traps. Good luck to you Navas. At least you're not boasting about your blue bullsh!t, or praising the Gotti Gods. I hate people like that. YIS, DJ.

[NavasInc]

thanx gamebreddj, but so far its a hit or miss situation.thanx for your reply!

[NavasInc]

Yeah Ill admit the one in your avatar looks GOOOD is still similar to what im looking for. I like the lowrider look personally. The taller APBT's look awesome. I just am looking for a smaller one right now.But the smaller you go the smaller the head gets sometimes , u know what i mean?

[rosco91382]

got cha, what about asking Screamer Kennels pretty sure they have to know of somebody somewhere...

[PirbulBongo]

If you want a purebreed i would look on another breed like Staffordshire Bull Terrier.

Those dogs tend to be low the ground and barrel body.

Maybe there are some APBTs like that but in the conformation standard a medium range leggy dog is faster and agile.

[NavasInc]

Yeah Im bout to hit them up. But other than them theres gotta be more. !!But yeah you right maybe he point me else where.//

[Bullyson]

Not always. You get into the deformed looking dogs sometimes that are all head. Rock didnt look normal IMO. But I loved that dog. He was my 1st hog dog. He was a gift from one of my best friends & mentor, TripleJ. Its a damn shame he didnt work out or he'd still be on my yard today.Yeah Ill admit the one in your avatar looks GOOOD is still similar to what im looking for. I like the lowrider look personally. The taller APBT's look awesome. I just am looking for a smaller one right now.But the smaller you go the smaller the head gets sometimes , u know what i mean?

[NavasInc]

yeah pirbulPongo Ive looked at some of them The SBT's.Thanx for the reply.

[Bullyson]

This is the SBT that won the pet of the month contest for March. Gorgious dog IMO.
http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/9/3/0/2/106.jpg

[NavasInc]

Damn Deformed?? lol! Ill take a pit like Rock or Rudy. So the low riding APBT's are pretty much rejects to alotta guys huh? haha . Sh#t well, they look good to me. Thanx for the reply.

[NavasInc]

Yeah that is a nice looking DIESEL dude.He is lookin niiiiice!!



This is the SBT that won the pet of the month contest for March. Gorgious dog IMO.
http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/9/3/0/2/106.jpg

[kane85]

Hello Im from Florida and Im looking for low sitting APBT's. Pure bred no razors edge no gotti lines. Can anyone help me with what type of blood line to look for. Its been a hit and miss situation.
Heres a link to one that Ive found can anyone help me find a kennel similar in Florida?Or where to find them here in Florida? Maybe another question is what type of bloodline should I be looking for??

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=95232 (http://http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=95232)

-Thanx 4 your time
Try out mayjor league pits or goodfellas they have short stocky pit to each his own on what they like in a dog but like gamebreddj saide at least he was not asking about the all mighty blue dogs on a wrong fourm ;)

[GSDbulldog]

Where in Florida are you? And what are your plans for the dog? If registration is not important, I work with a pit bull rescue group. We always see a variety of dogs of all shapes and sizes.

[Bullyson]

Where in Florida are you? And what are your plans for the dog? If registration is not important, I work with a pit bull rescue group. We always see a variety of dogs of all shapes and sizes.There ya go! :)

[FLpits]

Hello Im from Florida and Im looking for low sitting APBT's. Pure bred no razors edge no gotti lines. Can anyone help me with what type of blood line to look for. Its been a hit and miss situation.
Heres a link to one that Ive found can anyone help me find a kennel similar in Florida?Or where to find them here in Florida? Maybe another question is what type of bloodline should I be looking for??

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=95232 (http://http//www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=95232)

-Thanx 4 your time
theres a fun show april 19 in tampa why don't u go and look around, maybe talk to some kennels and see what they have.

[ABK]

I'd say check out Pit Bull Rescue Central. They have tons of APBTs & APBT mixes who are there through no fault of their own (i.e. owner death, divorce, etc.) who need good homes. You can find many "low rider" dogs there aged from 8 week old puppy to trained adult.

Check them out. You might find what you want there. Plus you'll be saving the lives of TWO bulldogs! here is one to get you started. She is a featured dog & probably as "low" as you can get! lol.

http://pbrc.net/webapp/cgi-bin/dog_detail.cgi/79ab498ecd6cc4451c246bb02255d43e?id=7625

Here is a link to the PBRC main page:

http://www.pbrc.net/

Good luck!

[FLpits]

Hello Im from Florida and Im looking for low sitting APBT's. Pure bred no razors edge no gotti lines. Can anyone help me with what type of blood line to look for. Its been a hit and miss situation.
Heres a link to one that Ive found can anyone help me find a kennel similar in Florida?Or where to find them here in Florida? Maybe another question is what type of bloodline should I be looking for??

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=95232 (http://http//www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=95232)

-Thanx 4 your time
here's a website were the dogs are so called lowriders, but i wouldn't mess with them. I meet the breeder in person and his dogs and i think allot are mix with EB,
http://www.geocities.com/xk9kennels/

[Iverson's Pits]

something like this???

[Big Game]

That dog looks pretty standerd to me. Just has some serous bone to his front end.something like this???

[Big Game]

Like this one. I belive this is a bone deformity, I Forget the name. Im shure mia or somone elts will Know. There have been threds about this dog and others who may or may not have this condition that I speek of. Bad nutrition can also cause this. All of us have certan traits or looks we are partial to. But choosing a dog souley based on its low stance. Is no better than picking a dog souley on it's color,size etc... Imo http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=18202

[Pipbull]

I know MinorThreat on here has described dogs off of Lil Tank like that.

[deepsouth]

Hey NavasInc, I don't think there is anything wrong with the shorter and squattier dogs. If that's what you like, cool. I think the main thing is that you don't want to get a dog from someone that just breeds for that "look" and ignores all the other traits (health, temperment, drive). You want to get an all around stable dog.
Best thing for you to do is attend some shows (there's a sub-forum here that lists the shows/dates). Then you can see dogs firsthand and network with people. Good Luck.

[ABK]

The condition that causes a lot of these short legged, heavy boned APBTs is called chondrodysplasia. It is a type of dwarfism that is genetic in nature. It is what give the Bassett Hound & Dachund their distinct short, bowed legs. In APBTs it is found mostly in the Bullyson line of dogs, mainly the Midnight Cowboy & Hall strains.

If you want to know about chondrodysplasia, use the search engine on this site & you will find several threads on it.

[NavasInc]

Try out mayjor league pits or goodfellas they have short stocky pit to each his own on what they like in a dog but like gamebreddj saide at least he was not asking about the all mighty blue dogs on a wrong fourm ;)


Yeah but goodfella kennels IMO looked crossed. I like that pure APBT face not a bulldog face. but ill look into that thanx 4 the reply!!!!

[NavasInc]

Where in Florida are you? And what are your plans for the dog? If registration is not important, I work with a pit bull rescue group. We always see a variety of dogs of all shapes and sizes.

Registry is a plus and what im leaning to but I am open minded and would take a APBT who needs a good home!To be honest his main job at my house is home protection. Inside pet.Living the good life LOL!!!

[NavasInc]

theres a fun show april 19 in tampa why don't u go and look around, maybe talk to some kennels and see what they have.

You are right about that !!Ill look into that show!!Thanx for the reply!:)

[NavasInc]

something like this???

NO not really . Thanx though.

[NavasInc]

Hey NavasInc, I don't think there is anything wrong with the shorter and squattier dogs. If that's what you like, cool. I think the main thing is that you don't want to get a dog from someone that just breeds for that "look" and ignores all the other traits (health, temperment, drive). You want to get an all around stable dog.
Best thing for you to do is attend some shows (there's a sub-forum here that lists the shows/dates). Then you can see dogs firsthand and network with people. Good Luck.

Excatly thats why im takin my time and researching and listening to what people say and seeing things for my damnself. You can become attached to ya dog and then if he got health issues it sux and ruins the experience.A good dog can turn a bad day at work into a better day. but health issues can be more stessful than its needed.THANX 4 THE REPLY!!

[NavasInc]

The condition that causes a lot of these short legged, heavy boned APBTs is called chondrodysplasia. It is a type of dwarfism that is genetic in nature. It is what give the Bassett Hound & Dachund their distinct short, bowed legs. In APBTs it is found mostly in the Bullyson line of dogs, mainly the Midnight Cowboy & Hall strains.

If you want to know about chondrodysplasia, use the search engine on this site & you will find several threads on it.


Man that chondrodysplasia defect looked horrible man that is not good at all!!!!!!!HORRIBLE. Not that short !lol! Nooooo..17- 14 inches tall is good.

CD looks horrible!!!!

[Pipbull]

To be honest his main job at my house is home protection.

Ya know, for the most part of this thread, I didn't think it was going to get to this point.

You should look at other breeds before get ours mentioned in the media negatively.

[NavasInc]

Ya know, for the most part of this thread, I didn't think it was going to get to this point.

You should look at other breeds before get ours mentioned in the media negatively.
Ive owned plenty of pitbulls without altercations little man. And who said its yours?

[Pipbull]

a pit bull for home protection isn't good stuff.

[ABK]

Pipbull is right Navas. The APBT is the absolute WRONG breed for home protection. Here is why:

1: They weren't bred for it. While most APBTs will bark at a stranger (if they even do that!), when push comes to shove, most purebred APBTs would hide behind YOU if an intruder broke into your home!

A sign of a well bred, pure blooded APBT is a LACK of human aggression. This is so much so part of the breed temprament that most breeders of standard APBTs actually have to keep guard dogs in their yard to keep ppl from stealing their bulldogs!

2: Even if your APBT would protect you, YOU are legally liable if the dog bites someone, even if it is a legit bite. This has already happened at least one time before. In that case an APBT bit an intruder, the intruder sued & the family who owned the dog ended up paying all the criminals medical fees & legal costs!

3: APBTs do not deter criminals in any way shape or form. In fact they ATTRACT criminals! Ask anyone here on the forum who has bred these dogs for any length of time. They will tell you dog thieves are rampant & these dogs attract thieves like bees to honey. Dogs have been stolen right out of the owner's backyard & homes have even been broken into to steal these dogs. And this is doubly true for the "low rider" dogs.

That being said I would also like to point out 99.99% of all the short APBTs are either mixed bred or affected w/ CD. CD is not always as severe as it is in Shorty Cowboy. Sometimes the only evidence of the disease is a shorter leg, thicker bone & perhaps a slight bowing of the legs.

A dog w/ CD would make a simply horrible protection dog b/c in most cases the dogs are slow moving or if they can run fast it is only for short sprints.

Those things being said I think you should get a breed that is bred for protection - i.e. Doberman, German Shepherd, Rottweiler, etc. If you want a short bulldog for a pet, great. But there is no sense whatsoever trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, which is exactly what you would be doing if you tried to use an APBT as a protection dog.

[Bullyson]

Ive owned plenty of pitbulls without altercations little man. And who said its yours?
Ok NoviceInc. I stood by you for most of this thread, but now you're starting to disrespect. Why call names? People are just trying to help you out. If you already "know it all" then why are you in here asking questions? The American Pit Bull Terrier is NOT A PROTECTION BREED! Thats not an opinion my friend, thats a fact. Good luck in your search.

[SMOKIN HEMI]

when good threads go bad. let's try to keep it clean

[GSDbulldog]

Navas, if you come out to the Tampa fun show on April 19th, I will be there, and will hopefully have one or two of the rescue dogs with me. The folks there, and myself, will be glad to help you find what you need. Visit the club's website for the show info, http://www.midfloridapitbulls.org/

Property protection is not a strong point of this breed, however. So keep that in mind during your search.

[coolhandjean]

If you want a protection dog, I'd look into a different breed. Dobermans are really great pets and good protection dogs...
Make sure which every breed of dog you end up getting for protection is train properly, and not just trained to "attack"...
Some good "bully breeds" for protection work are the Cane Corso, Boxer, American Bulldog, French Bulldog, Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog, and Bull mastiff. (if I am wrong on any of these being good guardians, please correct me.)

[TheVictor22]

IMHO Am Staffs don't do to bad with home protection.... But I would recomend another breed all together. Get yourself a well bred Bull Mastiff, Rot, Dobe, hell even a Chow Chow. But I don't feel an APBT is the dog for the job. Just my 2 cents.... Good luck with your search.

[TheVictor22]

If you want a protection dog, I'd look into a different breed. Dobermans are really great pets and good protection dogs...
Make sure which every breed of dog you end up getting for protection is train properly, and not just trained to "attack"...
Some good "bully breeds" for protection work are the Cane Corso, Boxer, American Bulldog, French Bulldog, Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog, and Bull mastiff. (if I am wrong on any of these being good guardians, please correct me.)

I aree 100%. Cane Corsos are awsome. That is a good suggestion.

[ABK]

Navas: I have to agree w/ Gamebred DJ. Not cool to call someone out of their name, esp. when they are trying to help you.

GSDbulldog: "The folks there, and myself, will be glad to help you find what you need." I hope you aren't going to try to help him find some HA low rider! :eek:

coolhandjean: I think you meant French Mastiff, not French Bulldog. ;)

French Bulldog:

http://www.sheles-frenchbulldogs.com/images/champ%20pic%20em.jpg

French Mastiff:

http://www.homesteadbordeaux.com/images/rometotheleft.jpg

TheVictors: I would NOT recommend a Cane Corso (or a Presa Canario!) for protection work. Not b/c they can't get the job done. They can do it & do it well. But I would not recommend them b/c they look like APBTs on steroids. Heaven forbid if a Corso or Presa bites someone, as it will be likely reported as a "pit bull" attack. :rolleyes:

JMHO ...

[coolhandjean]

coolhandjean: I think you meant French Mastiff, not French Bulldog. ;)


Nope, I meant French bulldog. I don't know much about the breed, so, I could have just been reading a bumsteer of a site, but it said that "But Frenchies also make good watchdogs." --Up, I see where I went wrong. I was taking watchdog as protection, which isn't the same, my bad...
Never heard of the french mastiff, but I'm sure it'd do good as well. :)

[TheVictor22]

TheVictors: I would NOT recommend a Cane Corso (or a Presa Canario!) for protection work. Not b/c they can't get the job done. They can do it & do it well. But I would not recommend them b/c they look like APBTs on steroids. Heaven forbid if a Corso or Presa bites someone, as it will be likely reported as a "pit bull" attack. :rolleyes:

JMHO ...

I aree that was my original reason for not mentioning them in my original post. I should have stuck with it. :D

[Pipbull]

GBDJ and ABK, thanks for stickin up for me, but I'm good. I got called little over the internet, that doesn't really phase me.

At least this little man can defend his own ass. I don't need to get a cur dog to do it for me.

ETA: I'm talking about the need of an APBT guard dog, not you 2 backing me up. Lmao, just saw how that looked!

[coolhandjean]

ETA: I'm talking about the need of an APBT guard dog, not you 2 backing me up. Lmao, just saw how that looked!

Yeah, at first I was like "ouch" lol.

[Bullyson]

And it would more than likely break their arm, or where ever was bit. Thats not an animal you want grabbing and shaking a person. Have you seen what they do to hogs? Imagine what they would do to a human. There is nothing wrong with any protection breed. Afterall, thats what they're bred for. GET TO KNOW YOUR BREEDER or you may end up with all kinds of genetic defects, no matter what breed you get.TheVictors: I would NOT recommend a Cane Corso (or a Presa Canario!) for protection work. Not b/c they can't get the job done. They can do it & do it well. But I would not recommend them b/c they look like APBTs on steroids. Heaven forbid if a Corso or Presa bites someone, as it will be likely reported as a "pit bull" attack. :rolleyes:

JMHO ...

[Bullyson]

Yeah Pip, that raised an eyebrow! LMAO Its all good man. We all know you're intergame. LOL Go get em boy! Dont scratch into your monitor too hard, you might break your nose. :eek:GBDJ and ABK, thanks for stickin up for me, but I'm good. I got called little over the internet, that doesn't really phase me.

At least this little man can defend his own ass. I don't need to get a cur dog to do it for me.

ETA: I'm talking about the need of an APBT guard dog, not you 2 backing me up. Lmao, just saw how that looked!

[NavasInc]

Pipbull is right Navas. The APBT is the absolute WRONG breed for home protection. Here is why:

1: They weren't bred for it. While most APBTs will bark at a stranger (if they even do that!), when push comes to shove, most purebred APBTs would hide behind YOU if an intruder broke into your home!

A sign of a well bred, pure blooded APBT is a LACK of human aggression. This is so much so part of the breed temprament that most breeders of standard APBTs actually have to keep guard dogs in their yard to keep ppl from stealing their bulldogs!

2: Even if your APBT would protect you, YOU are legally liable if the dog bites someone, even if it is a legit bite. This has already happened at least one time before. In that case an APBT bit an intruder, the intruder sued & the family who owned the dog ended up paying all the criminals medical fees & legal costs!

3: APBTs do not deter criminals in any way shape or form. In fact they ATTRACT criminals! Ask anyone here on the forum who has bred these dogs for any length of time. They will tell you dog thieves are rampant & these dogs attract thieves like bees to honey. Dogs have been stolen right out of the owner's backyard & homes have even been broken into to steal these dogs. And this is doubly true for the "low rider" dogs.

That being said I would also like to point out 99.99% of all the short APBTs are either mixed bred or affected w/ CD. CD is not always as severe as it is in Shorty Cowboy. Sometimes the only evidence of the disease is a shorter leg, thicker bone & perhaps a slight bowing of the legs.

A dog w/ CD would make a simply horrible protection dog b/c in most cases the dogs are slow moving or if they can run fast it is only for short sprints.

Those things being said I think you should get a breed that is bred for protection - i.e. Doberman, German Shepherd, Rottweiler, etc. If you want a short bulldog for a pet, great. But there is no sense whatsoever trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, which is exactly what you would be doing if you tried to use an APBT as a protection dog.

Thanx for your opinion I wanted to start a new thread about APBT for home protection to continue.
And I learned alot from you thanx for showin me that thread on CD that was good to know. I am staying away from CD looking dogs taht was some horrible pics you had in that thread.Lookin at it from the dogs P.O.v. thats painful.


P.s. I never said I knew it all I came on here to learn more.:rolleyes:

[Bullyson]

Right on man. Thats what we like to hear/see. Thanks for being a level head. :)Thanx for your opinion I wanted to start a new thread about APBT for home protection to continue.
And I learned alot from you thanx for showin me that thread on CD that was good to know. I am staying away from CD looking dogs taht was some horrible pics you had in that thread.Lookin at it from the dogs P.O.v. thats painful.


P.s. I never said I knew it all I came on here to learn more.:rolleyes:

[Pipbull]

We all know you're intergame.

LMWAO! That's good stuff right there.

[NavasInc]

Right on man. Thats what we like to hear/see. Thanks for being a level head. :)


Student to the game!:cool:

[NavasInc]

In my research for smaller APBT's ive seen alotta smaller pits that look very athletic and dont look like they have any CD. The papers show they are pure bred APBT's so Im not seeing mixes theres gotta be smaller lines out there.Anyone know where to find them?

[Pipbull]

Nobody should be breeding for size alone, either big or small. There's a lot more to the breed than just the height and weight.

You should definitely check out some local breed shows to see the dogs in the flesh, rather than just on the computer screen.

ETA: Where in FL are you?

[ABK]

The Lonzo line throws a lot of smaller dogs. Some are thick boned, some are not. I myself have a bitch here who is 7/8ths Lonzo & the last time she was weighed, she weighed in at 17 lbs on the chain. Most however range in the 30 - 40 lb range.

Here is a pic & ped on my dog (standard APBT @ 17 lbs):

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=74156

Here is a pic & ped on a bully Lonzo dog (bully dog @ 33 lbs):

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=67956

There are however, as w/ any bully type dog, whispers that Lonzo bred in some Eng. Bulldog to get the bully look since the original Lonzo dogs were not bully.

Who knows? I don't see any overwhelming EB influence myself, but only Lonzo knows & he isn't talking! But at least they don't have CD! lol.

[TheVictor22]

:DI have always been partial to the sub 35lbs dogs myself. I would love to have one.

ABK 17lbs? How old is she? I want one like that.:(

[jeeperino]

Navasinc.

Any breed except for an APBT would be perfect for you.

[ABK]

TheVictor: I like small dogs too. When I got started I had UKC big dogs but when I saw that the standard dogs can do everything a big dog can do & usually do it better, I was hooked! :D

The last time I weighed Baby she was probably around a year old or so. She is a throwback to the old type dogs, as she is heavily inbred on Lonzo's CH. Buba.

[NavasInc]

Nobody should be breeding for size alone, either big or small. There's a lot more to the breed than just the height and weight.

You should definitely check out some local breed shows to see the dogs in the flesh, rather than just on the computer screen.

ETA: Where in FL are you?
Thanx for your reply. your right and I am looking at dogs in person. Just come online to educate myself in another way. Learning different lines is very useful to me. Im in Tampa, FL.
And your definately right there is more to a dog than hieght and weight I agree, Im just researching different lines. :cool: I like the big APBT's too. Just trying to look for the smaller big boned lines for my next pup. No gotti or razors edge though. I like that purebred APBT.

[NavasInc]

The Lonzo line throws a lot of smaller dogs. Some are thick boned, some are not. I myself have a bitch here who is 7/8ths Lonzo & the last time she was weighed, she weighed in at 17 lbs on the chain. Most however range in the 30 - 40 lb range.

Here is a pic & ped on my dog (standard APBT @ 17 lbs):

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=74156

Here is a pic & ped on a bully Lonzo dog (bully dog @ 33 lbs):

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=67956

There are however, as w/ any bully type dog, whispers that Lonzo bred in some Eng. Bulldog to get the bully look since the original Lonzo dogs were not bully.

Who knows? I don't see any overwhelming EB influence myself, but only Lonzo knows & he isn't talking! But at least they don't have CD! lol.

Nice pics!! Thanx for the reply !! Yeah Im really staying away from Bullys no Eng. Bulldogs mixes. They are cool just not for me.Ill check into the Lonzos.

[NavasInc]

Navasinc.

Any breed except for an APBT would be perfect for you.


Thanx for your opinion!!:D

[ABK]

Man, Navas, that was a way cool answer. Someone comes at you w/ negativity & you come back w/ positivity. You are a better person than I & your response was refreshing to see. :)

If you want to learn more about the Lonzo line, PM me & I can hook you up w/ some links & advice if you want it.

[TheVictor22]

[quote=ABK;273039]TheVictor: I like small dogs too. When I got started I had UKC big dogs but when I saw that the standard dogs can do everything a big dog can do & usually do it better, I was hooked! :D
quote]


I'm with you on that your dogs look great by the way.

[ABK]

I'm with you on that your dogs look great by the way.

Thank you for your kind words! :)