hog huntin lines

[jones]

what do you guys think what is the best kennel out there striving for great catch dogs in apbt without all the annoyance?

[jones]

i find some of the watchdog stuff looking promising

[jman11]

LOL

Marty, are you seeing this?

[ColbyDogs]

I think your a tad confused, the Watchdog line are the hogs....they are not hunting at all.

[jones]

lmao you people are fucking predictable

[jman11]

TROLL.....

[jones]

no its just you people disagree with any little thing, refuse to talk about anything worth talking about, someone starts a thread, and it just mutates soooo far of topic its hillarious. ive never seen this much ignorance, and rude conduct in my life.

[bullydogs]

TROLL.....:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[jman11]

LOL, This TROLL is the Thread Starter and Last Poster Of All the Messages on the Board right now!!! look!

[jones]

i started a lot of these awhile ago i got on made my replys sorry your ignorant

[RightHandImp]

Mia has a lot of info on good hog lines, shes a hunter herself....
if you're nice and not a stinker she might help you out

[jones]

i appreciate mia she has never been rude i have another thread devoted to hunting i was hoping the lines itself would be a hot topic this thread sat for awhile thought id revive it but all you ever seem to get is a lot of haters

[GoFuryGo]

i appreciate mia she has never been rude i have another thread devoted to hunting i was hoping the lines itself would be a hot topic this thread sat for awhile thought id revive it but all you ever seem to get is a lot of hatersWatchdog lines are mutts, 100+ lb. dogs ? Now I don't care if bullies are you're thing. But they are not APBT, they are American Bullies. Hell, maybe one day I'll have one for my boys to ride on. As for true APBT catch dogs, take your dog, get a pig, and see what happens. Personally, I like American BULLDOGS for that task.

[Big Game]

I have seen plenty of Hogdoging Kennels who utalize watchdog Blood. The Origanal watchdog line was large but not bully. Todays Watchdog blood has went to hell. I dont belive the line has been preserved in working form by anyone. But Ive seen true working dogs With crosses into the early watchdog stuff (Blue Bully,Thor, Streeky Mccoy Etc...) These crosses are usaly back in the 5th,6th or further back. Usaly crossed into Kingfish/Art, Mccoy, Ofrn. Or some Blend of all of the above. Come To Michigan and you will see alot of dogs bred this way. With that said. T-R-O-L-L!!!

[ultimatek9]

I really know nothing about bloodlines or pedigrees. I have even posted my boys' pedigrees on several forums (including this one) and no one had a single response. No one recognized any of the names. Which is funny, because I even knew some of the names. And like I said, I know nothing about bloodlines.
Anyway I have talked to a couple of APBT "old timers" about my dogs' pedigrees, I am more specifically interested in Jaeger's. I was told that his sire is "Boomerang", which was supposedly breed from the OFRN. And that Boomerang dogs were specifically developed for hunting. They breed them to be a little larger, super high drive, but could work in a pack.
Just what I heard.

[jones]

im sure your dogs could "ride" on one. once again your bully comment i dont get? what are you talking about 100 lbs? watch dog has been for hogs for a long long time

[jman11]

I really know nothing about bloodlines or pedigrees. I have even posted my boys' pedigrees on several forums (including this one) and no one had a single response. No one recognized any of the names. Which is funny, because I even knew some of the names. And like I said, I know nothing about bloodlines.
Anyway I have talked to a couple of APBT "old timers" about my dogs' pedigrees, I am more specifically interested in Jaeger's. I was told that his sire is "Boomerang", which was supposedly breed from the OFRN. And that Boomerang dogs were specifically developed for hunting. They breed them to be a little larger, super high drive, but could work in a pack.
Just what I heard.
replace "old timers" with entrepeneur. then replace "boomerang" with Gotti, and everything sounds 100 percent correct

[ultimatek9]

replace "old timers" with entrepeneur. then replace "boomerang" with Gotti, and everything sounds 100 percent correct
So you are trying to say they used to the OFRN bloodline to create the Gotti bloodline. I never would have guessed.

My boy is VERY FAR from being a Gotti hippo.

I might not know anything about bloodlines and pedigrees, but I know that you obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

[simms]

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=314

[SMOKIN HEMI]

I am not going to lie I have heard that the earlier Watchdog blood were very good hog hunters. I see sims posted something anymore good hog hunting lines out there. Do the dogs need to be bigger to pull large Hogs or are the 40-50 pds dogs good?

[simms]

I am not going to lie I have heard that the earlier Watchdog blood were very good hog hunters. I see sims posted something anymore good hog hunting lines out there. Do the dogs need to be bigger to pull large Hogs or are the 40-50 pds dogs good? Gr Ch Davis Boomerang was a gamedog.

[jones]

i doubt one 40 or 50 lbs dog is gonna take down a 200 lber but i could be wrong.could be some kind of rambo of hog dogs. those dogs working as a team could accomplish it no prob. as for bigger breedings it would only make sense this is a desire for hog dogs.

[purplepig]

It is true that the watchdog's started off in the right place, but I believe that the fella sold to someone else, who went to breeding in a different direction. I seen some of them huge dogs and am surprised to see them advertised as "watchdog", because all of the ones I have seen are not anywhere close to the "_ugglston's Pitbull Farm" .The ones I have seen were typically 60-65#ers, but not 100+.

As to the smaller dogs hunting, it would be wrong to say a small dog cannot do well. The dogs we have dont necessarily "take the hog down", the more "wear the hog out", and when the hog is at exhausti

on, then we live catch. Though a 40lb dog can eventually wear one down, a 65lb dog will wear him down quicker.

As to the Carver dogs, I have a female here that weighs maybe 36lb, and thinks she is the cock of the walk.

As to the lines good for hog hunting, usually the rough barnstormers work very nice. The lines that folks would say,"there is no way that dog could take it as he gives it," would be something worth trying.

We tried a couple of them Boogieman dogs and they are working pretty nice.

[Marty]

http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/1/8/7/2/Samson_1.jpg

[purplepig]

http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/1/8/7/2/Samson_1.jpg

I smell bacon!!

[GrChPitFox]

http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/1/8/7/2/Samson_1.jpg

Very cool Marty!! I always wanted to ATLEAST tag along on a hog hunt... Maybe once I get to TX.....

[Virgil dogs]

WOW.Marty your a tease you cant post a picture like that and not tell a story,well its your site I guess you can but please tell the story.What did that hog weight?How long did that dog hook it out with him?This is something that I would love to try one day.

[GoFuryGo]

http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/1/8/7/2/Samson_1.jpgI bet that is one hell of a story....

[ultimatek9]

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=314Hey thanks alot, that really helped out. I found that Davis' Boomerang's grandson (Deloach's Rocker) appears in Jaeger's pedigree four times (six generations out) and that his great grandson (Miller's Jughead) appears eight times.
The other dogs in his pedigree that I recognized are Trump's Clint Black and Miller's So Lo.
It looks like a lot of Boudreaux' and some Carver's, Wilder's, Hunter's, a little Crenshaw's.

[miakoda]

"Troll" or no troll, good things can still come from threads like these as more than just one person has previously asked the same question and many more would like to.

I don't honestly know, or care for, lines of APBTs bred specifically for hog hunting. I'm not a fan of breeding these dogs for just one thing, especially when that one thing isn't necessarily what it was designed to do (yes, I know dogfighting is illegal, but I would rather see these dogs excel in several venues due to that fact instead of just turning it into another breed by fitting it into the box with other breeds).

The largest APBT we've used to hunt with was 65 lbs. Most of ours are in the 40 lb range with a few in the 50's, and yes they can do the job just fine. The dogs are NOT supposed to kill the hog. Their job is to catch and hold until the humans can get to it and do the actual killing. If I wanted to use bigger dogs, then I'll go with American Bulldogs as they range from 60-90 lbs and already are bred for the job. Why must we create larger "APBTs" to do a job that another breed has already been bred to do and has the size desired?

[rosco91382]

There are no loose hogs in the city I live, but I know for a fact King will go for the hunt on things like this......

http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/6/4/8/0/CIMG4193.JPG

[GoFuryGo]

There are no loose hogs in the city I live, but I know for a fact King will go for the hunt on things like this......

http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/6/4/8/0/CIMG4193.JPGFury hasn't seen any rabbits here, but she and I went after 3 does yesterday. Obviously, they won. I have no idea what would happen if she would have been able to get a hold of one though (minus getting popped in her melon). She goes ape shit when she sees a squirrel, tries to climb the tree. Glad to see the wascilly wabbit got what it had comming.

[rosco91382]

hehehe I wish I could go on a hog hunt, King might tuck his tail and run the other way right along with me. Maybe someone will take me in and teach me how to hunt we buy everything around here from the grocery store...
Drew

[masta of game]

hehehe I wish I could go on a hog hunt, King might tuck his tail and run the other way right along with me. Maybe someone will take me in and teach me how to hunt we buy everything around here from the grocery store...
Drew join this then

http://www.gundogforum.com/

http://www.texasboars.com/

[Marty]

WOW.Marty your a tease you cant post a picture like that and not tell a story,well its your site I guess you can but please tell the story.What did that hog weight?How long did that dog hook it out with him?This is something that I would love to try one day.I don't have the story... someone said a 40/50 lb dog couldn't take down a 200 lb hog so I found the picture and posted it from the gallery ;)

[bulldog426]

http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/1/8/7/2/Samson_1.jpg
more than likely had several baydogs, and probably another catchdog. i've seen 35-45 lb dogs latch onto a 300lber and get drug through the woods by the hog, and that pig there looks much larger.
i always liked a good game-line dog, i aint much into hoghunting no more, can't really buy dog food with bacon.

[rhumble]

it seems that apbt is used alot in hog hunting in australia, also in the states.

it seems apbt already hunted hogs long ago, actually apbt have diferent style (dogvsdog) and hog hunt is diferent, i guess that adaptation comes into play but they have to (re)learn before going hunting and great D A is not the best thing when working with other dogs.
personally i will try to do some hog hunting

[waitingformytime]

I am not going to lie I have heard that the earlier Watchdog blood were very good hog hunters. I see sims posted something anymore good hog hunting lines out there. Do the dogs need to be bigger to pull large Hogs or are the 40-50 pds dogs good?


alot of hog hunters take those 40-50 pd dogs and cross them with dogos they are bigger can run longer and have quite a bit of grit. but straight up pitbulls i personally would not get a Watchdog bred dog. you generally take more than 1 catch / bay dog so if you get some good game dogs and rugged curs ( not they pitbulls lacking game, the houndy curs) you should have a good hunt.

[calikeith]

old watchdog stuff was still pretty big,who's to say that home boy didnt throw some ab into his mix,he was or is a big american bulldog guy,founder of there registry,and he says in the story of how his dog,white fang was shot,that he had a 90pd pitbull also..
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q169/calikeith/ShowPics107.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q169/calikeith/ShowPics108.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q169/calikeith/ShowPics131.jpg

[rhumble]

from what i read the dog was 11 month old in that pic

http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/1/8/7/2/Samson_1.jpg

[rhumble]

i had seen a website of a hog hunter that had pure boudreaux hog dogs but i lost the link

[YAHHOOO]

i had seen a website of a hog hunter that had pure boudreaux hog dogs but i lost the link

Tightline's Kennels he is from south texas. He has a website do a google search to find it.

[rhumble]

found it
thanks

[BamaBoy]

old watchdog stuff was still pretty big,who's to say that home boy didnt throw some ab into his mix,he was or is a big american bulldog guy,founder of there registry,and he says in the story of how his dog,white fang was shot,that he had a 90pd pitbull also..
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q169/calikeith/ShowPics107.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q169/calikeith/ShowPics108.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q169/calikeith/ShowPics131.jpg

Casey Courtier did keep ABs as well. He is/was founder of the American Bulldog Association (ABA). However the ARF and NKC were the first to register American Bulldogs. The ABA came along afterwards.

As far as lines being specifically bred for hog hunting, like Mia said, I don't know of any. I've never known an APBT not to catch a hog...catching is just another arena in which they excel.

[purplepig]

Casey Courtier did keep ABs as well. He is/was founder of the American Bulldog Association (ABA). However the ARF and NKC were the first to register American Bulldogs. The ABA came along afterwards.

As far as lines being specifically bred for hog hunting, like Mia said, I don't know of any. I've never known an APBT not to catch a hog...catching is just another arena in which they excel.

good post, I totally agree!!

[masta of game]

im planing to go out hog hunting here in Australia. thats my new love..hog hunting lol.

[rhumble]

http://www.freewebs.com/lkrewkennels/index.htm

[notorious jones]

cali keith great post man