Any Info on PRO-LINE KENNELS?

[Gameboy864]

Hello 2 All,

I was insearch of contact info regarding Pro-Line Kennels. They are the owners of the great "White's K.A." Any info on this kennel anyone? I am specifically interested in the best producing lines of Red Boy/Jeep/Honeybunch. My yard is under construction and I'm finally ready to run these lines under a registered kennel name. Here's a peek as to what is to be expected from my kennel:

Jeep/Nigerino/Tab/Redboy/Jocko/Bolio/OFRN(male):

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=170740 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=170740)

Pure RedBoy Male:

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=262889

Pure HoneyBunch(female)

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=238149 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=238149)

Nigerino/B-line Cowboy/Midnight Cowboy (Female):

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=272 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=272)112

Midnight Cowboy/Rascal (female)(most likely 4 sale):

www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=219560 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=219560)

Thanks in advance.

[Marty]

Hello 2 All,

I was insearch of contact info regarding Pro-Line Kennels. They are the owners of the great "White's K.A." Any info on this kennel anyone? I am specifically interested in the best producing lines of Red Boy/Jeep/Honeybunch. My yard is under construction and I'm finally ready to run these lines under a registered kennel name. Here's a peek as to what is to be expected from my kennel:

Jeep/Nigerino/Tab/Redboy/Jocko/Bolio/OFRN(male):

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=170740 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=170740)

Pure RedBoy Male:

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=262889

Pure HoneyBunch(female)

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=238149 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=238149)

Nigerino/B-line Cowboy/Midnight Cowboy (Female):

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=272 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=272)112

Midnight Cowboy/Rascal (female)(most likely 4 sale):

www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=219560 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=219560)

Thanks in advance.

Just to inform everyone, Whites KA was RIP 3 days after this breeding...

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=213156

The last of them resides here ;)

And no I do not sell to the public, sorry.

[Iron Mike]

Now Marty you can go ahead delete this response like you have the last couple of mine but before you do, check these references:

JC Shaw and Broadway Jack. I'm sure there are many others who remember this.

The Late Tim Murphy wanted to buy KA, for I think $600.

Shaw gave him a deal.
Mr. Jeep Murphy sent a money order and told Shaw please ship the dog right away because he had some business out of town he needed to take care of.

Since it was paid in a money order Shaw thought he had the money.........WRONG!.
When Tim got the dog he stop payment on the money order and because it had to go through international banking system it took up to at least a week for it to clear. Mr. Jeep Murphy stopped payment, Shaw got cheated out of the dog.

Now here is the deal.
I personally ask Tim why he did it and as he wrote on his website and told many other including Shaw, Broadway Jack, Fat Bill Tom Garner, myself, etc.:

KA WAS UN-ABLE TO BREED!
He claimed the end of the dog's penis was gone or removed and the dog could not breed.

To this day JC Shaw has never been paid for the dog.

Question is;
did he screw JC Shaw out of the money or was the papers being used and hung onto breeding KA never did.
Ted was ex-partner of Mr. Jeep Murphy and ended up with the dog and now you see his name all over on dogs' pedigrees.

What's the real truth?
Either way, there was some low down dealings going on.
So all I can say is, if the dog could breed, how could anyone trust the ethics of a kennel who did this or if he couldn't, well same question...

JC Shaw and Broadway Jack are still alive to ask...
And think both of their word has much more honor and truth then someone who has done something like this either way, (if the dog could or couldn't breed!!) jmo..

[Marty]

Has there ever been any DNA done on Whites KA?

If so I'll have AKA DNA'd to prove this breeding took place, if not I can't prove anything... But I shipped my bitch up there to be bred to him, and did not get her back for a month, I did get bent out of shape about it and my dog was returned so I'll have to look into it :(

[ROSE]

Hello 2 All,

I was insearch of contact info regarding Pro-Line Kennels. They are the owners of the great "White's K.A." Any info on this kennel anyone? I am specifically interested in the best producing lines of Red Boy/Jeep/Honeybunch. My yard is under construction and I'm finally ready to run these lines under a registered kennel name. Here's a peek as to what is to be expected from my kennel:

Jeep/Nigerino/Tab/Redboy/Jocko/Bolio/OFRN(male):

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=170 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=170740)740 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=170740)

Pure RedBoy Male:

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=262889

Pure HoneyBunch(female)

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=238149 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=238149)

Nigerino/B-line Cowboy/Midnight Cowboy (Female):

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=272 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=272)112

Midnight Cowboy/Rascal (female)(most likely 4 sale):

www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=219560 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=219560)

Thanks in advance.

.REDBOY bred to himself is pure REDBOY.

[STPFAN]

Known PLK for a long time and there is some truth to Iron Mike's story.....but when PLK heard about the incident he later went on to pay the oweing debt from his own pocket!

I also believe I was there too witness that breeding Marty and seen KA breed to PLK's other brood...so that point of KA not being able to breed is false!

PLK is out of the dogs now and has relocated his yard to a friend the south....

PLK was a yard full of untested dogs but he managed to produce some good ones based on there bloodline!

[screamin'eagle]

...I like a dog or two down from Murphy's Jenny of Proline Kennels...

[Iron Mike]

I realized this information could be up setting to some but I'm really surprised many wasn't aware of this.
It was on the Net and in Magazines. It was very much common knowledge.
Tim was the silent partner in Proline Kennels.
Most top dogmen in Ontario knew of this.
Both Teds knew about it. Proline and Rollbar. Rum Crooks aka Cam/Am Boys.
Owner of Ch. Buki. Dogmen from Kisner to Toronto were aware of this.
So to make sure I was correct on this matter I called Broadway Jack the 23rd.
We have known each other for many years so I guess it would qualify me as knowing him fairly well since I was his second longest advertiser and I think sitting at his dinner table wouldn't be called strangers.
I asked if he remember this. He said yes.
"I remember this guy well because of what he wrote in his book running down my magazine and saying Gr. Ch. Black Jack was over rated with my help so Shaw could sell pups."
I said to him that Tim must of thought some kind of respect because he started Sporting Dog Online website and the magazine The Journal with the funding from Tom. Broadway Jack had a few things to say on the reports from him.
I ask him if he ever recalls the dog being paid for.
Broadway Jack said "NO! Shaw ask for the dog back. They stole the dog..."
When this went down, Shaw called me and asked me if I knew of the guy and I said yes. He asked what I knew of him and I told him everything I knew.
I have talked to Shaw after he moved and the last he told me the dog was never paid for.
Now to save face the claim is the dog was paid for when he wasn't.
Question is, can he or can't he produce?
Either way doesn't matter to me.
I just thought many would like to know the truth and what happened.
Now I have named many well known dogmen who can be checked with.
Many are his own countrymen.
Broadway Jack's phone number and address is still the same after all these years.
You don't have to take my word for it, find out for yourself.
The only reason why I responded to this is because this was very well known and for Proline to claim he didn't know about it until way after the fact isn't true or that he paid for the dog.
BTW, just because a dog hangs with a female doesn't mean he can sire pups.
And a female can take by more then one male.
When breeding can be in question, one should never leave room for doubt and be with their female at all times.

[Marty]

Has there ever been any DNA done on Whites KA?

If so I'll have AKA DNA'd to prove this breeding took place, if not I can't prove anything... But I shipped my bitch up there to be bred to him. As far as I can remember it was in December of 2003, LDF was the one that set it up for me.