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Yngwie
03-17-2008, 12:49 AM
Hi guys, just wondering if you could link to a kennel/kennels that run as pure or tight maverick blood as possible. Thanks!




misterdogman
03-17-2008, 02:01 AM
Hi guys, just wondering if you could link to a kennel/kennels that run as pure or tight maverick blood as possible. Thanks!PURE is impossible to find unless you got maverick his son and a daughter,

Yngwie
03-17-2008, 02:18 AM
PURE is impossible to find unless you got maverick his son and a daughter,
That is correct, ive been awake for 20h and can't think properly.

GAMEMAN
03-17-2008, 03:07 PM
in my opinion Aries kennels have the best maverick blood that could be found.

Mr Mark
03-17-2008, 07:54 PM
...self distructing post, lol!

Dred Lok Kennels
03-17-2008, 09:05 PM
Well, here's as close to impossible as it gets. Her, her sister, and her brother are with us! However, nothing is available!

Ped removed per requestWhats up Mr. Marks...

Mr Mark
03-17-2008, 10:59 PM
Whats up Mr. Marks...How are you my good friend? How are the hounds? I'm doing well. Keeping busy! The weather's finally starting to warm up a bit.

Big Game
03-18-2008, 12:37 AM
Well, here's as close to impossible as it gets. Her, her sister, and her brother are with us! However, nothing is available!
Ped removed per request
D-D-D-Damn! Nice. Never seen it that tight.

Dred Lok Kennels
03-18-2008, 04:04 PM
How are you my good friend? How are the hounds? I'm doing well. Keeping busy! The weather's finally starting to warm up a bit.
Doing good, hounds are alive, how is the man did he get my new digs?

Osea
03-18-2008, 04:23 PM
D-D-D-Damn! Nice. Never seen it that tight.
tight does not always = good or D-D-D-Damn! Nice.

Big Game
03-18-2008, 04:33 PM
I know this Man! It is what it is "tight". I happen to think it is D-D-D-D-Damn nice also. I am judging the dog by Its ped seeing as I dont know squat about the dog as an individual. I dont give a damn what no one says that is one hell of a pedigree. I assume the dogs earned the right to be bred. If this is true. D-D-D-D-Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!tight does not always = good or D-D-D-Damn! Nice.

Mr Mark
03-18-2008, 04:41 PM
Doing good, hounds are alive, how is the man did he get my new digs?
He's doing good! He's been apartment hunting. Landlord sold the building to the damn bank! I'm not sure if he got the new digs. I'll ask him and get back to you!

Mr Mark
03-18-2008, 04:43 PM
D-D-D-Damn! Nice. Never seen it that tight.
Thanks Big Game! These dogs are owned by my partner. How's your little SixBit guy doing?

Mr Mark
03-18-2008, 04:55 PM
tight does not always = good or D-D-D-Damn! Nice.
Very true! However, this does happen to be private stock that stays on the yard and is never peddled out.

Mr Mark
03-18-2008, 05:01 PM
If you gentleman don't mind, could you just delete the pedigree in your posts for me. I don't like to keep it posted on boards for more than 48 hours. Thanks!

Just wanted to let you know that it is out there and being preserved well!

Big Game
03-18-2008, 05:45 PM
Full of piss and vinager like a good pup should be. Spollid rotten soaking up that puppy treetment lol. It is my personal beleif that when people see a pedigree that perdy it seems to bring the inner hater out of them.Lol. Thay wanna ASSUME the dog is papperbred. Sometimes this is the case.....Sometimes Its not. Also alot of people seem to hold the beleif that only cross bred dogs are of high ability and a dog bred extremly tight on one family or one paticular dog cannot perform and are good only as breeding stock. This must be a new way of thinking because most of the great dogmen of the past dident hold these belifs. Most seemed to belive in keeping it in the family and only outcrossing when absolutly nessissary. Big GameThanks Big Game! These dogs are owned by my partner. How's your little SixBit guy doing?

Dred Lok Kennels
03-18-2008, 06:06 PM
Full of piss and vinager like a good pup should be. Spollid rotten soaking up that puppy treetment lol. It is my personal beleif that when people see a pedigree that perdy it seems to bring the inner hater out of them.Lol. Thay wanna ASSUME the dog is papperbred. Sometimes this is the case.....Sometimes Its not. Also alot of people seem to hold the beleif that only cross bred dogs are of high ability and a dog bred extremly tight on one family or one paticular dog cannot perform and are good only as breeding stock. This must be a new way of thinking because most of the great dogmen of the past dident hold these belifs. Most seemed to belive in keeping it in the family and only outcrossing when absolutly nessissary. Big Game
Shhhhhhhhhhhh.............;)

Big Game
03-18-2008, 06:23 PM
Lol. youre right, Dont want to let any secrets out. lol

Mr Mark
03-18-2008, 06:59 PM
Shhhhhhhhhhhh.............;)
LOL, exactly!

Osea
03-18-2008, 08:52 PM
Very true! However, this does happen to be private stock that stays on the yard and is never peddled out.
Good to hear because it seems like everything is peddled out these days if the price is right.

Osea
03-18-2008, 09:06 PM
Full of piss and vinager like a good pup should be. Spollid rotten soaking up that puppy treetment lol. It is my personal beleif that when people see a pedigree that perdy it seems to bring the inner hater out of them.Lol. Thay wanna ASSUME the dog is papperbred. Sometimes this is the case.....Sometimes Its not. Also alot of people seem to hold the beleif that only cross bred dogs are of high ability and a dog bred extremly tight on one family or one paticular dog cannot perform and are good only as breeding stock. This must be a new way of thinking because most of the great dogmen of the past dident hold these belifs. Most seemed to belive in keeping it in the family and only outcrossing when absolutly nessissary. Big Game
The inner hater? Not from myself I assure you. I don't own that blood and I have nothing against it. I find it odd that one minute you say...

I am judging the dog by Its ped seeing as I dont know squat about the dog
and then YOU ASSUME as much as anyone else going strictly on paper? Where is the sense in that? I am not a person who holds the belief that only cross bred dogs are of high ability, quite the opposite actually. Too often I see people comment on paper alone knowing nothing about the dogs on the paper. All they see is a father x daughter doubled on or a sibling mating and assume because of the inbreeding that the dogs are top notch when in reality they are far from and those who bred the dogs were simply trying to replicate what those before them have done assuming that it will work for them as well when chances are they didn't know anything or own the dogs behind the ones they purchased. Just a general observation.

Yngwie
03-19-2008, 01:03 PM
Why in the fakk are you guys raping my thread?

BoiBoi
03-19-2008, 01:26 PM
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=273716

CooljoeGoodie
03-19-2008, 03:07 PM
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=273716Now that one looks,like it's about time for an out.But I perfer line bred as well,from good stock that has stood through time.To acheive that shows that the person knows their stuff.And you to Mr.Marks nicely done!JMO

BoiBoi
03-19-2008, 03:30 PM
Now that one looks,like it's about time for an out.But I perfer line bred as well,from good stock that has stood through time.To acheive that shows that the person knows their stuff.JMO
whats funny is his sister is completely different in appearance, great conformation and just overall great looking gyp, go figure how different littermates can look

Big Game
03-19-2008, 05:37 PM
alright listen, Mr. Marks is a member of this community that I respect. I find his post enjoyable, positive, and informative. You ......and youre post......well.....not so mutch. I'm going break somthing down for you. We are on the Internet. This alows us to communicate with people all across the Globe. Ya following me so far? This internet thing, What it dosent provide is the ability to Teleport into other dogman's backyard, in order to personaly evaluate there breeding stock 1st hand. I know what youre thinking "this just is'nt fair" If Capt. Kirk Could do this In the late 70's-early 80's than shurely we have the tecnolagy to do this today. I personaly belive that Marty could add this feature to the Fourm But wants to keep the tecnology all to him self lol. Anyways, I was judging the dog off of the only two things I have to go off of. Mr Marks reputation and the dogs Pedigree. Now from what In know of Mr. Marks he does things the right way. Thare for yes I did ASSUME the dog was bred for the right reasons. See that is one of the diffrinces between a hater type of person and a non hater. The hater will always assume the worst about a person and there dogs. There I go, likeing a dogs pedigree because its bred tightly on a dog that has provin itself to be a Great Performer and producer (Mavrick). My greenness must realy be showing lol. Yngwie I sorry weve highjacked youre thred. Im done. If I have anything elts to say I will take it to pm's Big GameThe inner hater? Not from myself I assure you. I don't own that blood and I have nothing against it. I find it odd that one minute you say...


and then YOU ASSUME as much as anyone else going strictly on paper? Where is the sense in that? I am not a person who holds the belief that only cross bred dogs are of high ability, quite the opposite actually. Too often I see people comment on paper alone knowing nothing about the dogs on the paper. All they see is a father x daughter doubled on or a sibling mating and assume because of the inbreeding that the dogs are top notch when in reality they are far from and those who bred the dogs were simply trying to replicate what those before them have done assuming that it will work for them as well when chances are they didn't know anything or own the dogs behind the ones they purchased. Just a general observation.

GAMEMAN
03-19-2008, 08:01 PM
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=273716
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=152871
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=275336
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=99086

Osea
03-19-2008, 08:27 PM
Big Game and an even bigger ignorant mouth. All of the ignorant sarcasm in the world ain't going to change the fact that you judge dogs based on paper and paper alone. No doubt that sums you up enough for everyone to form their opinions of you being every bit as silly as those you insult and condemn. I am done with you. I know those who I can learn from and those who just talk a big game.

Puppet Master
03-21-2008, 06:43 PM
I know Mr. Mark, if they are feeding a mature dog then it's a good dog. I dont see what the problem is here.


With Respect, pmk

kinggatorpits
03-21-2008, 07:13 PM
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=273716

What's the deal with this guys stance? Looks very wide in the chest? Is that the way the line runs don't know much about it so I had to ask.

frenchie1936
03-21-2008, 09:26 PM
What's the deal with this guys stance? Looks very wide in the chest? Is that the way the line runs don't know much about it so I had to ask.


the deal is that the dog is inbred. intensely. as someone stated earlier it needs an out. even to another eli dog. if that dog was to be bred, the potential to spread those undesired legs and general conformation to offspring is pretty high. which brings around a good question that should be asked in person.

ABK
03-21-2008, 09:45 PM
What's the deal with this guys stance? Looks very wide in the chest? Is that the way the line runs don't know much about it so I had to ask.kinggator - some Bullyson dogs can be a little chesty, but that dog is far from being "wide in the chest." That dog is affected w/ chondrodysplasia & it is a genetic defect, no doubt brought to the fore in this dog by inbreeding.

Big Game
03-22-2008, 01:00 AM
I have a Question for those who run Mavrick blood. Alot of Fanciers of the Eli strain seem to strictly belive in "keeping it in the family" when breeding. Rarely outcrossing and when thay do outcross it is to other strains within the Eli family. I totaly understand this logic . My Question is what were youre exsperences when experamenting with Total some may say ''Rank" outcrosses with little to no common ansesters? What worked for you? What were you not so happy with? In other words what Clicked and what did'nt Big Game

Mr Mark
03-22-2008, 07:52 AM
I have a Question for those who run Mavrick blood. Alot of Fanciers of the Eli strain seem to strictly belive in "keeping it in the family" when breeding. Rarely outcrossing and when thay do outcross it is to other strains within the Eli family. I totaly understand this logic. My Question is what were youre exsperences when experamenting with Total some may say ''Rank" outcrosses with little to no common ansesters? What worked for you? What were you not so happy with? In other words what Clicked and what did'nt Big Game
Lower percentages and less consistancy period! That goes for any line.

Big Game
03-22-2008, 01:19 PM
This is a fact, however over the course of history there have ben many straight outcrosses that have stood the test of time and have become seperate strains alltogether. Like Redboy/Jacko for example. Lower percentages and less consistancy period! That goes for any line.

Gameboy864
03-25-2008, 10:41 AM
Hi guys, just wondering if you could link to a kennel/kennels that run as pure or tight maverick blood as possible. Thanks!
B.D had the tightest MidNight Cowboy stuff that I could remember. If you're interested in a female, I have one. 3/4 Midnight Cowboy w/ a 1/4 out of Rascal.
Here pedigree is astonishing and has Maverick him self in her 3rd, so here off-spring will still include this great dog.
> Midnight Cowboy/Rascal (female)> www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=219560 (http://www.game-dog.com/forums/www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=219560)