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oldgameblood
03-09-2008, 05:09 PM
web.mac.com/walkospits




coco0889
03-09-2008, 05:29 PM
Nice dogs.

MinorThreat
03-09-2008, 05:55 PM
how big did your Dynamo dog turn out? Do you like what you've seen of the dog?

Highbloodbulldog
03-09-2008, 07:56 PM
Good luck on your work... seems to be nice.

misterdogman
03-09-2008, 08:22 PM
web.mac.com/walkospitsThere is nothing "rare" about a single one of those dogs IMO and I saw the word in every paragraph on that site. Basically you got some game bred dogs and are studding and breeding common and actually run of the mill blood IMO. Are the sire and dame proven dogs and worthy of breeding?? Where, what and who did the Mayfield stuff come out of? because thats definitely questionable! Just asking?

kinggatorpits
03-09-2008, 08:29 PM
There is nothing "rare" about a single one of those dogs IMO and I saw the word in every paragraph on that site. Basically you got some game bred dogs and are studding and breeding common and actually run of the mill blood IMO. Are the sire and dame proven dogs and worthy of breeding?? Where, what and who did the Mayfield stuff come out of? because thats definitely questionable! Just asking?I was wondering about all the same things myself. Well put Mr.

CRG
03-09-2008, 08:35 PM
There is nothing "rare" about a single one of those dogs IMO and I saw the word in every paragraph on that site. Basically you got some game bred dogs and are studding and breeding common and actually run of the mill blood IMO. Are the sire and dame proven dogs and worthy of breeding?? Where, what and who did the Mayfield stuff come out of? because thats definitely questionable! Just asking?Well said...

Big Game
03-09-2008, 10:07 PM
I was looking at buying a Kershner Male so I personaly did my homework on the Kershner dogs. Talked to alot of Midwest dogmen. With all the contraversy surrounding This line I had to find out for myself. What I gatherd was that Kershner himself Owns ALOT of bulldogs and that he BREEDS alot of dogs. He SELLS alot of dogs and just basicly lives off of his bulldogs. With this said I was also told that even thow he is basicly considerd a peddler by most dogmmen, the dogs on his yard and coming off of his yard are "Right as Rain". I was told that thay can carry the traits that most familys bread this tightly carry. Small litters, Late starters, week immune systems when under stress, Etc Etc... I also herd that thay were solid confrmation dogs but that thay ran a little large.That all and all thay are good bulldogs that bread strait are better suted for breeding stock than as individual performers. It is my opinion that the overall general ditaste for this line shared by most doggers is directly related to distaste for the breeding practicess and personalitys of the keepers of the line (Kershner and before him Mayfield) more so than the Quality of the dogs produced from this line. Manny consider these two full of themselfs. Before Mayfield passed he made some accusations regarding some other legendary dogmen and dogs of his area. These accusations rubbed alot off doggers the wrong way. I belive this has tarneshed the reputation of this family of dogs. I myself have no personal hands on experiance with this line of dogs. This is just what I gatherd when reserching this family. You must admit thay look great on papper. I think Id take a chance on one under the right circumstances. Id like to find out there quality first hand. Big Game

purplepig
03-09-2008, 11:24 PM
What bloodline are you preserving? I am sorry you but you have put yourself out there, and it appears to me that either your understanding is dull, or you are selling wolf tickets.

I seriously doubt that the mayfield school of breeding has been carried out in those. Possible?..Not very. In all truth, you really dont even have a nice cross there, more of a scatterbred dog. Which is fine, but call it what it is. If you sell them pups under the premise of what is stated on your site, you are spreading ignorance.

Also, and this is just my humble opinion, no reputable breeder would be offering to stud a "ckc" dog for free, much less $500 a pop. Your ckc is in all probability standing with hung papers,even if the dog looks good, the papers are hung, so you are promising a dna in the dog which it simply does not possess. I hope you will put a construction sign on you site and yard, and rethink what you are doing. And in the mean time, learn.

You say you are preserving the "lines", but in actuallity, you are preserving ignorance.

I hope that you will take what I am saying in the spirit in which I have typed this. Dont get offended, but try and make youself sit for a moment and see what I am trying to tell you. I have only one stake in what you are doing, the future of my dogs. I am not against breeding, but I am sick of lies told by unscrupulous breeders, or ignorant breeders. If you want to preserve a line, go get another dog from tg bred like the male pup you have. Another thing that was wild to me, you were offering to stud the dog out already, and you said it hadnt even had it nuts dropped, so you have no idea what traits the dog actually has, you just want to breed and make some money.

I wish you lived near me, I'd like to spend some time with you, and hopefully pass down some well earned and learned teachings. Is there anyone where you live who could mentor you? And if you are being mentored, get away from them. (unless you just dont listen to them), and find someone else.

Later.
J

sapitbulls
03-10-2008, 12:38 AM
Nothing special. And most your dogs barelly look a year old. Another thing you talking about blood but you advertise there main blood is in there 6th 7th gen. We all know about dynomite dogs but you have no peds up as far as i can see. And ckc dont count. I woudent breed right now let your dogs grow up and see what there capable of doing. And just because you got a hi profile dog like dynomo doesent mean he is the next frisco our dynmote our chinamen. Instead of thinking about studing him already let him be a pup and shit for a few years instead of turning him into a sperm donor.

WWII
03-10-2008, 12:38 AM
Geeze... I must be slow tonight. I thought the blood he was dealing with was Web/Mac/Com/Walkospits.. lol... Didn't notice it was a site at first. "Here's your sign"

sapitbulls
03-10-2008, 12:41 AM
Geeze... I must be slow tonight. I thought the blood he was dealing with was Web/Mac/Com/Walkospits.. lol... Didn't notice it was a site at first. "Here's your sign"
lol, that made me spit a little bit of beer out.

ROSE
03-10-2008, 02:35 AM
I was looking at buying a Kershner Male so I personaly did my homework on the Kershner dogs. Talked to alot of Midwest dogmen. With all the contraversy surrounding This line I had to find out for myself. What I gatherd was that Kershner himself Owns ALOT of bulldogs and that he BREEDS alot of dogs. He SELLS alot of dogs and just basicly lives off of his bulldogs. With this said I was also told that even thow he is basicly considerd a peddler by most dogmmen, the dogs on his yard and coming off of his yard are "Right as Rain". I was told that thay can carry the traits that most familys bread this tightly carry. Small litters, Late starters, week immune systems when under stress, Etc Etc... I also herd that thay were solid confrmation dogs but that thay ran a little large.That all and all thay are good bulldogs that bread strait are better suted for breeding stock than as individual performers. It is my opinion that the overall general ditaste for this line shared by most doggers is directly related to distaste for the breeding practicess and personalitys of the keepers of the line (Kershner and before him Mayfield) more so than the Quality of the dogs produced from this line. Manny consider these two full of themselfs. Before Mayfield passed he made some accusations regarding some other legendary dogmen and dogs of his area. These accusations rubbed alot off doggers the wrong way. I belive this has tarneshed the reputation of this family of dogs. I myself have no personal hands on experiance with this line of dogs. This is just what I gatherd when reserching this family. You must admit thay look great on papper. I think Id take a chance on one under the right circumstances. Id like to find out there quality first hand. Big Game The overall distaste for a lot of these dogs come from the people that actually know the owner and the false titles being put on most of them just to make a buck.have you ever wondered why the people closest to him utilize other strains?its true that any line produces bad dogs but some lines produce MORE bad than good.satisfy your curiosity and buy one and let us know the outcome.

Big Game
03-10-2008, 03:20 AM
I wont be going out and buying one anytime soon. Cant go buying dogs from every line im currious about. I went with a sixbitts pup insted, I could let you know how that turns out. The overall distaste for a lot of these dogs come from the people that actually know the owner and the false titles being put on most of them just to make a buck.have you ever wondered why the people closest to him utilize other strains?its true that any line produces bad dogs but some lines produce MORE bad than good.satisfy your curiosity and buy one and let us know the outcome.

pennsooner
03-10-2008, 05:53 AM
Did anyone notice that one stud dog was CKC registered?

ABK
03-10-2008, 04:52 PM
And?

A couple of my ADBA/AADR dogs are CKC reg. too so I can compete in CKC shows/pulls. Actually, almost every dog I see at CKC pulls is dualed ADBA. Just b/c the dog is CKC doesn't mean it's not a quality dog. And besides, shouldn't we be looking at the dog & not the papers ...?

pennsooner
03-10-2008, 05:56 PM
And?

A couple of my ADBA/AADR dogs are CKC reg. too so I can compete in CKC shows/pulls. Actually, almost every dog I see at CKC pulls is dualed ADBA. Just b/c the dog is CKC doesn't mean it's not a quality dog. And besides, shouldn't we be looking at the dog & not the papers ...?



If a dog is ONLY CKC registered that, to me is a sign that the dogs breeding is bogus. Seems like everytime you see someone with obvious mixed breed dogs they are CKC registered.

Of course with the Whopper bloodlines I guess the ADBA isn't as pure as the driven snow either.

Claddagh_Reds
03-10-2008, 06:10 PM
Kershner's yard video is a real treat, especially if you want to learn duck calls!


So does that mean then that people who choose not to register their dogs at all are bogus, too? they have no papers what so ever so who knows what went into those breedings!!

I guess in these situations you have to judge the breeder on his or her merits to determine if they are reputable enough. When we judge a dog based on the registry, aren't we just as bad as people judging the whole entire breed based on the idiotic actions of a few bad apples??

Highbloodbulldog
03-10-2008, 06:19 PM
Well... cleary he's just starting... many stones in the hands to a newbye.. this is pretty sad in my oppinion.

Dogs are made of blood, flesh and game... not by papers.

Oldgameblood:

Son, if you like your dogs and they work nice to you, be proud about them... and let no one put you down.
Learn with the experienced ones yes, but don't let they trace your way to you... do it yourself.

Again, good luck on your work.

This is only my oppinion.

JK.

oldgameblood
03-10-2008, 08:43 PM
well fellas my line is def. proven and we have been in control of quite a few of the dogs in the ped, some are dead and some are still alive i used to have my dog shugabears dad,mother and grandpa and 2 uncles from there on we bred my dogs mother and half brother osbournes tank and i personally been of control of that particular litter for around five but i have been handling the same family for over tens yrs and there is a reason for the attention fellas i wouldn't waste my time i am not doin for the money i am just gettin ready to breed chinaman in to it and as far as the pup i got from the dynamite and red girl litter,he is everything i expected so far!! i invite any of u to my yard really guys you just have see in person thanks

kinggatorpits
03-10-2008, 08:51 PM
I could careless at this point for the ADBA or the UKC(beagle related not APBT)...However at this point I'm considering just keeping all my stuff on paper as I've tried calling other registries (sp) and have a problem getting them to anwser their phone's at what should be business hours through the week...But to my point I own serveral dogs with hand written peds that are better than some dogs I've owned back by good pedigrees on paper. Papers IMO will never make a dog in my eyes wether it be ADBA,UKC,CKC ro whatever. I'll leave you with a quote from a lady I loved dearly "Believe nothing you hear son and only half of what you see."

oldgameblood
03-10-2008, 09:04 PM
ha ha man u probably couldn't even handle my dogs lol u could stop bye anytime and i could show u wut up. man i just let my dogs do the talkin .are u lookin at the same pics i am? my dogs that are on the site aren't even in shape there treasured indoors and spoiled and there not even 50pnds. the site is young but me and my dogs are not. the site is updated daily sorry there were some errors on it i just purchased a new imac and i am just figuring it out no disrespect but no mix breeds here the ckc on the yard i just picked him up off the street just to give good him a good home so don't bash me over that lol lol have a good day

GABulldog
03-10-2008, 09:08 PM
well the dog makes the papers, not the other way around...performance speaks for itself, the papers dont mean shit. there are many un papered dogs out there that can out perform many top pedigreed dogs.

kinggatorpits
03-10-2008, 09:24 PM
If your talking about me handling your dogs save it for someone else.

oldgameblood
03-10-2008, 09:52 PM
yeah i was thinkin the same thing pal my dogs speak for themselves though thanks

Bullyson
03-10-2008, 10:00 PM
I agree. My buddy bought a dog that was CKC only and it was Staff x APBT. That to me didn't seem right. Her ped says APBT but the breeder/idiot told us the dam was AmStaff. Am I the only one who didnt know it was cool to register this cross?If a dog is ONLY CKC registered that, to me is a sign that the dogs breeding is bogus. Seems like everytime you see someone with obvious mixed breed dogs they are CKC registered.

Of course with the Whopper bloodlines I guess the ADBA isn't as pure as the driven snow either.

kinggatorpits
03-10-2008, 10:10 PM
Whatever dude your the one that picked up a dog of the street got ckc papers on it and is studing him out screams BYB breeder to me. And I was in no bashing any of your dogs with my orginal post rather pointing out to other that papers don't make the dog. But you can save your bullshit for someone who care's cause I've heard the same BS out 100's of people.

coco0889
03-10-2008, 10:24 PM
Why are you using that CKC dog as a stud if ou found him on the street?

Big Game
03-10-2008, 10:38 PM
The papers dont make the dog, the dog makes the papers........ Ya, Pritty sure everyone here that knows there own A#% from a hole in the wall understands this consept. Papers are only worth the honesty of the breeder. This goes for ukc akc adba aadr and hand written peds. This guy Is'nt Floyed B. Hell he aint Maurice. He is peddiling the penis of a CkC registerd dog that he picked up off of the street. Any asshat can register any mutt with the ckc. If youre ckc regesterd dog dosent have adba ukc akc or aadr papers to back the ckc papers chances are you have a mut. I dont see the ukc adba aadr or the akc registering KNOWN mutz. (with the exeption of the Whopper line in witch the adba has never hid the fact that thay let eddington register a mixed breed dog in order to create his xxl line of apbt to jumpstart pulling) Dasydogs PugDoodls Pitdoodles laberdoodls and anyother B.S. Doodles I might have missed. Nor do I see any respected dogmen handwriteing peds with crosses into diffrent Breeds. All regitrys are flawd. None as grossly as the ckc. The ckc Is pure garbige. I would never register my dogs or show my dogs ckc. I would be supporting every ignorant BYB who sticks his shitzu to any dirty unpaperd street mutt and sells them as Ckc registerd designer dogs. So thay can suck the money out of the ignorant uneducated ritch, who by the way are apparently willing to pay upwards of 2000 dolars for a mutt thay could have rescued from the pound. Hell that is whare these ckc kennels are getting there dogs. Sorry for the rant.... just cant stand the ckc or the so called breeders who use this registry exclusivly.

Bullyson
03-10-2008, 10:46 PM
Good post BG.The papers dont make the dog, the dog makes the papers........ Ya, Pritty sure everyone here that knows there own A#% from a hole in the wall understands this consept. Papers are only worth the honesty of the breeder. This goes for ukc akc adba aadr and hand written peds. This guy Is'nt Floyed B. Hell he aint Maurice. He is peddiling the penis of a CkC registerd dog that he picked up off of the street. Any asshat can register any mutt with the ckc. If youre ckc regesterd dog dosent have adba ukc akc or aadr papers to back the ckc papers chances are you have a mut. I dont see the ukc adba aadr or the akc registering KNOWN mutz. (with the exeption of the Whopper line in witch the adba has never hid the fact that thay let eddington register a mixed breed dog in order to create his xxl line of apbt to jumpstart pulling) Dasydogs PugDoodls Pitdoodles laberdoodls and anyother B.S. Doodles I might have missed. Nor do I see any respected dogmen handwriteing peds with crosses into diffrent Breeds. All regitrys are flawd. None as grossly as the ckc. The ckc Is pure garbige. I would never register my dogs or show my dogs ckc. I would be supporting every ignorant BYB who sticks his shitzu to any dirty unpaperd street mutt and sells them as Ckc registerd designer dogs. So thay can suck the money out of the ignorant uneducated ritch, who by the way are apparently willing to pay upwards of 2000 dolars for a mutt thay could have rescued from the pound. Hell that is whare these ckc kennels are getting there dogs. Sorry for the rant.... just cant stand the ckc or the so called breeders who use this registry exclusivly.

JuckingFerk
03-10-2008, 10:50 PM
Do I have to go to Walk's Kennels to get some of that rare frisco blood or do you think I can get it elsewhere..LOL

Ferk out

misterdogman
03-10-2008, 10:56 PM
ha ha man u probably couldn't even handle my dogs lol u could stop bye anytime and i could show u wut up. man i just let my dogs do the talkin .are u lookin at the same pics i am? my dogs that are on the site aren't even in shape there treasured indoors and spoiled and there not even 50pnds. the site is young but me and my dogs are not. the site is updated daily sorry there were some errors on it i just purchased a new imac and i am just figuring it out no disrespect but no mix breeds here the ckc on the yard i just picked him up off the street just to give good him a good home so don't bash me over that lol lol have a good dayIf I can ask, what is so hard to handle about your dogs??? Also what kind of talking do they do because you could probaly make more money putting them in movies if they can be trained to say the right things over breeding them. I would be looking into going to Hollywood and doing commercials. Also you pointed out you saved the one talking CKC mutt off the street and are studding this dog out for 500$ all year long huh? Is this why its rare? because nobody else has a dog "exactly" like it that talks or what? I bet I can find half a dozen in 20 minutes driving around in any neighborhood but not any that talk, I could find some that are even better on the South Side on Chi on a Saturday night when their let loose in allys after not making the owners happy.... and then Ill have you put CKC papers on it in seconds also, maybe Ill breed it to your dog and trade some pups to you so we can make some sick crossed rare bred talking dogs and make some quick bread yo, you game because if we can get this talking gene to stay dominant we could really get our dogs to sell ....and I bet they listen better to since they speak the language and all, have you noticed that at all?...and also do thay have any kind of accent?. I bet they would if they lived in another area or something, I wonder if we could send some to Australia or Britain or something to get some real unique ones but thats something to think about another day, can you post a video or anything I cant wait to see this...

Bullyson
03-10-2008, 11:04 PM
Thats the funniest shit Ive ever read! LMMFAORAOF!!!!!!If I can ask, what is so hard to handle about your dogs??? Also what kind of talking do they do because you could probaly make more money putting them in movies if they can be trained to say the right things over breeding them. I would be looking into going to Hollywood and doing commercials. Also you pointed out you saved the one talking CKC mutt off the street and are studding this dog out for 500$ all year long huh? Is this why its rare? because nobody else has a dog "exactly" like it that talks or what? I bet I can find half a dozen in 20 minutes driving around in any neighborhood but not any that talk, I could find some that are even better on the South Side on Chi on a Saturday night when their let loose in allys after not making the owners happy.... and then Ill have you put CKC papers on it in seconds also, maybe Ill breed it to your dog and trade some pups to you so we can make some sick crossed rare bred talking dogs and make some quick bread yo, you game because if we can get this talking gene to stay dominant we could really get our dogs to sell ....and I bet they listen better to since they speak the language and all, have you noticed that at all?...and also do thay have any kind of accent?. I bet they would if they lived in another area or something, I wonder if we could send some to Australia or Britain or something to get some real unique ones but thats something to think about another day, can you post a video or anything I cant wait to see this...

Big Game
03-11-2008, 12:13 AM
Oh my GOD!!!:D (pics self up from floor, wiping tears from own eyes) Like I said before Mister is The funnyst dogman on the net HANDS DOWN. You kill me.Thats the funniest shit Ive ever read! LMMFAORAOF!!!!!!

jman11
03-11-2008, 12:49 AM
if i had a job picking apart BYB's, this would be a full days work, but fortunatley, im going to the bar in a few.

1st of all, since yesterday, he has taken the great CKC stud dog off his web site

2nd. as others have said, he is quick to point out Bolio and Alligator in the 8th Generation. i bet people are lining up for these.

3rd. his dynamo dog off dynamite is 110% pure chinaman...... thats funny cause someone told me frisco and dynomite are 25% bolio

4th. Stud to dynamo! he is a grandson of frisco!!!!! Quote from his website
WHICH HE IS UP FOR STUD WHEN GETS OLD ENOUGH FOR A LIMITED TIME ONLY AT $500.00. THE PRICE WILL GO UP SO HURRY AND CATCH THE DEAL.....

5th. - note to poster, people wouldnt be bashing you, if you didnt have all these ideas about breeding. you have nice dogs and everyone is joking about how you say garners dogs are rare (they are good dogs, but peddled to the end of the earth, and definitley anything from rare.)

What ever happened to just being a good dog owner?

it seems 60 percent of people here and 99 percent of pedsonline people are complete 2-faced peddlers. everyone is soooooo interested in breeding.

question to poster.
Will your breedings be as good as Mr. Garners.?

no? then why do it?

yes? come on now..... check yourself!


off to the well.....

Highbloodbulldog
03-11-2008, 09:51 AM
The papers dont make the dog, the dog makes the papers........ Ya, Pritty sure everyone here that knows there own A#% from a hole in the wall understands this consept. Papers are only worth the honesty of the breeder. This goes for ukc akc adba aadr and hand written peds. This guy Is'nt Floyed B. Hell he aint Maurice. He is peddiling the penis of a CkC registerd dog that he picked up off of the street. Any asshat can register any mutt with the ckc. If youre ckc regesterd dog dosent have adba ukc akc or aadr papers to back the ckc papers chances are you have a mut. I dont see the ukc adba aadr or the akc registering KNOWN mutz. (with the exeption of the Whopper line in witch the adba has never hid the fact that thay let eddington register a mixed breed dog in order to create his xxl line of apbt to jumpstart pulling) Dasydogs PugDoodls Pitdoodles laberdoodls and anyother B.S. Doodles I might have missed. Nor do I see any respected dogmen handwriteing peds with crosses into diffrent Breeds. All regitrys are flawd. None as grossly as the ckc. The ckc Is pure garbige. I would never register my dogs or show my dogs ckc. I would be supporting every ignorant BYB who sticks his shitzu to any dirty unpaperd street mutt and sells them as Ckc registerd designer dogs. So thay can suck the money out of the ignorant uneducated ritch, who by the way are apparently willing to pay upwards of 2000 dolars for a mutt thay could have rescued from the pound. Hell that is whare these ckc kennels are getting there dogs. Sorry for the rant.... just cant stand the ckc or the so called breeders who use this registry exclusivly.
Disagree in one point. Peds only shows a tendency, and nothing more.
The honesty of the breeder is written in his reputation... if you consider the ped to say who is honest or not, then you're assuming that many bully craps registered in the ADBA are "breeders" equal to other reputable ones as Tom Garner himself... we all know that isn't truth.
Peds are just pieces of paper... and there's many only made by politics...

Regards.

misterdogman
03-11-2008, 10:21 AM
if i had a job picking apart BYB's, this would be a full days work, but fortunatley, im going to the bar in a few.

1st of all, since yesterday, he has taken the great CKC stud dog off his web site

2nd. as others have said, he is quick to point out Bolio and Alligator in the 8th Generation. i bet people are lining up for these.

3rd. his dynamo dog off dynamite is 110% pure chinaman...... thats funny cause someone told me frisco and dynomite are 25% bolio

4th. Stud to dynamo! he is a grandson of frisco!!!!! Quote from his website
WHICH HE IS UP FOR STUD WHEN GETS OLD ENOUGH FOR A LIMITED TIME ONLY AT $500.00. THE PRICE WILL GO UP SO HURRY AND CATCH THE DEAL.....

5th. - note to poster, people wouldnt be bashing you, if you didnt have all these ideas about breeding. you have nice dogs and everyone is joking about how you say garners dogs are rare (they are good dogs, but peddled to the end of the earth, and definitley anything from rare.)

What ever happened to just being a good dog owner?

it seems 60 percent of people here and 99 percent of pedsonline people are complete 2-faced peddlers. everyone is soooooo interested in breeding.

question to poster.
Will your breedings be as good as Mr. Garners.?

no? then why do it?

yes? come on now..... check yourself!


off to the well.....Good post but I dont understand one thing, why did he take the Talking dog down off his site? That was the only dog that he has any hope of making it with, oh maybe he took my advice and is headed to Hollywood to do some commercials and didnt want someone to think they could get this dog as a stud when theyre gone, what good business fortitude and thought there, dont want to mislead anyone into thinking its an available rariety when its actually gone in Hollywood doing gigs and probaly even Mag photo shoots and stuff once they make it big.

sapitbulls
03-11-2008, 02:30 PM
Im, not going to say anything really. But i have a comment on how you said you had a family of dogs for 10 years our so. You dont even look like you 21? I also dont want to assume shit but either you got a really good job our you a rich ass kid in the burbs getting into pitbulls cuz its cool and a trend and beged your momma to spend a grand on a garner dog and your new little imac.

jman11
03-11-2008, 03:02 PM
Im, not going to say anything really. But i have a comment on how you said you had a family of dogs for 10 years our so. You dont even look like you 21? I also dont want to assume shit but either you got a really good job our you a rich ass kid in the burbs getting into pitbulls cuz its cool and a trend and beged your momma to spend a grand on a garner dog and your new little imac.
of all things, your gunna hate on him cause he is young and has money, rather than looking out for the good of the dogs, it looks like your just jelous of his situation.:rolleyes:

Big Game
03-11-2008, 03:15 PM
You must have missunderstood something I said. I dont consider the ped to say who is honest or not ?? as you put it. I clearly stated " Papers are only worth the honesty of the breeder " Or as you put it " The honesty of a breeder is writen in his reputation " These are two different ways of saying the same thing. Also If I were useing a dogman as an example of honesty...Id lean more twards Folyd B. or B. Wallace than T. Garner. Disagree in one point. Peds only shows a tendency, and nothing more.
The honesty of the breeder is written in his reputation... if you consider the ped to say who is honest or not, then you're assuming that many bully craps registered in the ADBA are "breeders" equal to other reputable ones as Tom Garner himself... we all know that isn't truth.
Peds are just pieces of paper... and there's many only made by politics...

Regards.

mydawgs
03-11-2008, 04:20 PM
Good post but I dont understand one thing, why did he take the Talking dog down off his site? That was the only dog that he has any hope of making it with, oh maybe he took my advice and is headed to Hollywood to do some commercials and didnt want someone to think they could get this dog as a stud when theyre gone, what good business fortitude and thought there, dont want to mislead anyone into thinking its an available rariety when its actually gone in Hollywood doing gigs and probaly even Mag photo shoots and stuff once they make it big.
Ok you are making me cry...bwaaahahahahahah.....

I think Odie already has the letterman gig

http://www.mytopdogs.com/videos/talkingdogvideo.shtml

But there may be a future in police work as well:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/22/must-see-video-a-talking_n_87449.html

OMG this is funny!!!!!

Pipbull
03-11-2008, 06:03 PM
lol, this guy that's only posted 4 times total is getting everyone all in a huff.


Starve the trolls! :D I'm starting the campaign

mydawgs
03-11-2008, 06:06 PM
lol, this guy that's only posted 4 times total is getting everyone all in a huff.


Starve the trolls! :D I'm starting the campaign



Thats why we needed some levity......hee hee

misterdogman
03-11-2008, 06:46 PM
lol, this guy that's only posted 4 times total is getting everyone all in a huff.


Starve the trolls! :D I'm starting the campaignI dont see anyone in a huff yet, I just keep giggling because I can think of like 40 dumbass remarks to make and just cant decide on which one to post....lol....I wish people were on here more because its funner when they can reply right back but if you think about it I dont think anyone here gets jealous about the image or money thing its more of a hatred and despise for people who try to use words real dogpeople use when their really just peddling garbage that isnt as game as some of our 6 mos old puppies and we wish people could see average stuff and then see junk and distinguish it between real deal stuff and resist breeding regular or even obsolete and mediocre dogs like these. BUT no they get some average TG dog or even some local garbage and breed away and then the sites come and theyre all the sudden preserving something rare. That is I think is more of the reason for the huffiness your seeing from some people IMO.

Bullyson
03-11-2008, 06:52 PM
ATK preserves these bloodlines.
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=127276
Not trying to hijack. Just trying to give an example. DJ.

bullydogs
03-11-2008, 06:53 PM
This thread has been quite amusing. All that needed to be said has pretty much been said. Find a mentour... its clear as day that you have been lead down the wrong path. I have to admit, young or not...its pretty dam scary that you had the balls to stud a dog that you found on the streets. I am hoping the almighty dollars is not the reason you choose the APBT. And if it was the reason...close up shop...your a horrible salesman.

Good luck, your gonna need it.