where to buy gas

[Tonka03]

WHERE TO BUY YOUR USA-GAS

WHERE TO BUY YOUR USA-GAS,
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. READ ON--
Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it. It might even be good for us!

The Saudis are boycotting American goods.

We should return the favor.

An interesting thought is to boycott their GAS.
Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia.

Just buy from gas companies that don't import
their oil from the Saudis.Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time you fill-up the tank,you are sending your money to people who are trying to kill you, your family and your friends.

Interested to know which oil companies are the best to buy gas and which major companies import Middle Eastern oil?

These companies import Middle Eastern oil :


Shell.......................... 205,742,000 barrels
Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels
Exxon /Mobil............... 130,082,000 barrels
Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels
Amoco............................62,231,000 barrels
Citgo......................from South America ,




If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLIO N ! (at $90-$95 a barrel)

Here are some large companies that DO NOT import Middle Eastern oil:

Murphy USA..........0 barrels.. (Wal -Mart)
Sunoco................0 barrels
Conoco................0 barrels
Sinclair................0 barrels
BP/Phillips...........0 barrels
Hess....................0 barrels
ARC0..................0 barrels

All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and each is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are importing.

But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of gas buyers. It's really simple to do.

[Primo]

Hate to burst anyone's bubble, but this is another typical misleading internet chain mail

see this link http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/saudigas.asp

[misterdogman]

Yeah I believe I saw this for the first time like on September 12th 2001, it aint worked since then, I doubt it'll work now.... I am sure actually. Nobody thinks about that crap when their on E they just stop and get gas wherever.

[Suki]

^ i think so, too


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[bahamutt99]

It never made a lot of sense to me. They say Amoco imports, and BP doesn't, but they're the same company now, so which to believe? Phillips is related to Conoco, and Shell is related to Texaco, but above, they pair them off differently, as though they don't even know what they're talking about. In the interest of fairness, I s'pose things could've changed since this was originally circulated, but still.

[WWII]

Barrels closed at $100.01 the other day. Expect close to $4/gallon by Memorial Day. Why the increase in price? DECREASE in demand. Gas prices change due to anything and everything. They have discovered an alternative fuel through ethanol made by waste products. Should be coming out in certain locations. They can make it for under $1.
http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/02/coskata-signs-d.html

[misterdogman]

Barrels closed at $100.01 the other day. Expect close to $4/gallon by Memorial Day. Why the increase in price? DECREASE in demand. Gas prices change due to anything and everything. They have discovered an alternative fuel through ethanol made by waste products. Should be coming out in certain locations. They can make it for under $1.
http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/02/coskata-signs-d.htmlYes and their high tech "methane gas" turned to "syngas" turned to "ethanol" by bacteria has really not shown me where they "Discovered" something..... and all in all...as a whole....it will really accomplish nothing as a fuel for the masses. So what if GM bought or backs them or whatever, Coskata's supposed "breakthrough" will assuredly go nowhere fast just like all the other major breakthroughs in the past 50 years that could have put OIL on the wayside..they will get bought out or muscled out by the bigger interests.

[WWII]

Yes and their high tech "methane gas" turned to "syngas" turned to "ethanol" by bacteria has really not shown me where they "Discovered" something..... and all in all...as a whole....it will really accomplish nothing as a fuel for the masses. So what if GM bought or backs them or whatever, Coskata's supposed "breakthrough" will assuredly go nowhere fast just like all the other major breakthroughs in the past 50 years that could have put OIL on the wayside..they will get bought out or muscled out by the bigger interests.EXCEPT, the other alternative fuels are no where near economical. I'm not gonna start into a debate, but corn ethanol and sugar cane ethanol take too much for the output they produce. This is made by wood waste and garbage. Two things that are plentiful and infinite as long as people live. It's a breakthrough on our way to not be oil dependent. And they are talking only about one plant here. It won't get us off oil completely, but it's a start. In bigger news, look up NanoSolar.
http://www.popsci.com/popsci/flat/bown/2007/green/item_59.html

vid:
http://www.kqed.org/quest/television/view/399
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=525102373

[bahamutt99]

Where can you even buy Ethanol gas? My dad has a 2000 Ford Ranger with that flexfuel business where it can take E85, but we've never seen a gas station selling it.

ETA: Nevermind. There are only 4 in our state, two of which are closed, and none of which are nearby. LOL http://e85vehicles.com/e85-stations.htm

[misterdogman]

EXCEPT, the other alternative fuels are no where near economical. I'm not gonna start into a debate, but corn ethanol and sugar cane ethanol take too much for the output they produce. This is made by wood waste and garbage. Two things that are plentiful and infinite as long as people live. It's a breakthrough on our way to not be oil dependent. And they are talking only about one plant here. It won't get us off oil completely, but it's a start. In bigger news, look up NanoSolar.
http://www.popsci.com/popsci/flat/bown/2007/green/item_59.html

vid:
http://www.kqed.org/quest/television/view/399
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=525102373 Look man I live in Iowa, I know ethanol, I know Biodiesel,... and corn and switch grass and beans and cane are great sources....BUT the efficiency is nill from using just the grain or fermentable sugars...its like a work input of 2 for a output of 4...BUT if you use the WHOLE corn or bean or cane stalk and ROOT system you turn your work input of 2 for a fuel output of 4 into a work input of 3 into a fuel output of up to 9 out of 10 max...thats 90% efficient or more after profit sales for the company making the ethanol...so basically spending 1.00 on a product that took 25 cents to make is ideal for the market and public...BUT IT WONT WORK. So dont tell me why we need these new ways to make it more efficient when we can already..... from using the whole plant to acheive the same goal. Not to mention we have had the technology to do this and even more advanced solutions to the oil problem for 100 years and none of them made it.... so why would this trend make ethanol anything other than it is now..... an additive in our Midwest gas...just because its a new science and accomplishes the same goal..I doubt it will surge the ethanol market anymore than these hard working Iowa farmers have been tryin to do for years.... and mind you theses guys do it without the fancy gas transversing enzyme combilation disecting extraction to get the same product in the end..... Ethanol Gas mixed at 10% here in Iowa is usually 10-15 cents cheaper a gallon than regular..I always use it and try to save and it works great in any car for the most part at such low levels..... SO I am an advocate for all cars to run on a larger ethanol mix....closer to 100%..... but the beast you have to kill to make it happen {like in Brazil whos 100% ethanol and oil free....} happens to own the world.... so good luck fighting big OIL. Because our bread baskets farmers cant get it done..... and why wouldnt GM back them to find out this same info they have now and defeat big oil that way and corner the market on gas prices????....? sounds like a special interest thing for GMs profits to me.... while they try to corner the Green market they also bypass the lovely men who discovered the science in the good old pastures of corn I live in....so I guess to pick the lesser or the 2 evils, their all out for profit more than they are out for saving the environment.... and by buying a company to make the same result from scraps and trash may be easier than using farmers you cant own control or buy to accomplish things your way....not to mention its may save on buying grain since any rottable substance works which you can gather for free anywere.....but we got lots of pig shit we can sell that to GM...Lots of methane there. I guess they probaly weighed their options and decided they wanted a cleaner route, or more profitable one maybe.... because if it does work out ethanol wise and GM owns the corner... bye bye to the other big 2 of 3.....GM will rule on all aspects, gas prices, car compatability, and ownership of rights to have other makers follow suit to use teh same science in their cars, which they cant get from farmers I guess. Go figure.

[misterdogman]

Where can you even buy Ethanol gas? My dad has a 2000 Ford Ranger with that flexfuel business where it can take E85, but we've never seen a gas station selling it.

ETA: Nevermind. There are only 4 in our state, two of which are closed, and none of which are nearby. LOL http://e85vehicles.com/e85-stations.htmdrive north on the I35 until your in Ames Iowa. Get off on the Highway 30 East exit towards Nevada Iowa....go 5 miles east or so and turn north on the first frontage road...go a mile until you get to Lincoln Way ....turn east go 2 miles and youll be sitting in from of an e85 and biodiesle factory where you can gas up right in a corn field...right now e85 is 1.99 a gallon. Last month it was 1.77 but you know the gas in our ethanol is more expensive daily it seems.... but still almost a dollar cheaper a gallon than your pure gas swill....lmao. But serioulsy I dont know how far south you can find it...maybe north MO but mainly IA MN and IL and NE etc....the farm states are who push it.

[bahamutt99]

Hey, if I had a huge tank to drag along and fill, it'd be worth it. LOL