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EastTexas
12-09-2007, 09:11 PM
I bred a pair of my dog's a few years back, and a buddy of mine who bought one from me asked me to pick him a good one. Well, the one I picked which is 2 and a half now still won't breed. I know that he's plenty old enough, but all he want's to do is try to fight. He don't care if she's in heat or not! I have been around this breed my whole life. My father got his first one when he was 14 and has had em ever since. I asked him, But he hasn't ever seen a male this way either. I know female's like this (I have one) and that's why they make breeding stands. So my question is, Has anyone ever owned or heard of a male like this?

Here is his pedigree:
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=244511




prdogo
12-10-2007, 03:32 PM
hi from puerto rico
in mi opinion if you have inof space make two cage one near the other. that bouth dogs can see each other. remember that the dogs protect their propertis and may tinks that the new are traspacing. because of that i sugest seen the new one on secuens will adap and then maket to socializate. remember that socialization make dogs beter companion.

Miss Conduct
12-10-2007, 04:11 PM
I bred a pair of my dog's a few years back, and a buddy of mine who bought one from me asked me to pick him a good one. Well, the one I picked which is 2 and a half now still won't breed. I know that he's plenty old enough, but all he want's to do is try to fight. He don't care if she's in heat or not! I have been around this breed my whole life. My father got his first one when he was 14 and has had em ever since. I asked him, But he hasn't ever seen a male this way either. I know female's like this (I have one) and that's why they make breeding stands. So my question is, Has anyone ever owned or heard of a male like this?

Here is his pedigree:
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=244511Ok, you have had this breed for years and you are wondering why your APBT is dog aggressive??!........... MANY MANY MANY of these dogs are dog aggressive irregardless of the other sex, size, color etc etc of the other dog - its in their genetics! Thats why breeding stands were made. And please disregard the other post in here, trying to socialize a dog aggressive dog wont do anything but cause scuffles. You need to be responsible and take EVERY precaution that you can so you dont have an accident.

Now, why are you wanting to breed this male? Is he a conformation Ch. or maybe an excellent working dog? My point here is, there is zero need to breed your male unless he has earned the right to do so. I love my dogs and think they are all great in their certain aspects, but fact is there will always always be someone out there with better dogs than what i could produce myself. That is why I dont breed my dogs, there is no need too.

frenchie1936
12-10-2007, 04:33 PM
Ok, you have had this breed for years and you are wondering why your APBT is dog aggressive??!........... MANY MANY MANY of these dogs are dog aggressive irregardless of the other sex, size, color etc etc of the other dog - its in their genetics! Thats why breeding stands were made. And please disregard the other post in here, trying to socialize a dog aggressive dog wont do anything but cause scuffles. You need to be responsible and take EVERY precaution that you can so you dont have an accident.

Now, why are you wanting to breed this male? Is he a conformation Ch. or maybe an excellent working dog? My point here is, there is zero need to breed your male unless he has earned the right to do so. I love my dogs and think they are all great in their certain aspects, but fact is there will always always be someone out there with better dogs than what i could produce myself. That is why I dont breed my dogs, there is no need too.

excellent post. it's intersting to see the questions posed about breeding and why their dog may or may not want to breed. if someone is asking a question such as why does my dog just want to fight instead of breed, well maybe you shouldn't be breeding. at least leran how to deal with those problems before attempting to breed. *sigh*

Searcy Jeff
12-10-2007, 08:17 PM
WOW!

Been breeding dogs or at least owning them for how long now?

And don't have the slightest clue to what DA is?

*Rolls Eyes and Shakes Head*

misterdogman
12-10-2007, 08:28 PM
OK whats the question? Why is my male aggressive or why am I breeding? To answer both. Your male there is young and dumb and full of,...... come on seriously hes a male he dont know what getting laid is yet... he wants to be a boy and fight, and yes I seen plenty of males and females like that. To answer the other no you shouldnt and nobody knows why you are.

woody d
12-10-2007, 08:47 PM
hey misterdogman, pm me, im curious where in Ia u r located

EastTexas
12-10-2007, 08:47 PM
Ok, you have had this breed for years and you are wondering why your APBT is dog aggressive??!........... MANY MANY MANY of these dogs are dog aggressive irregardless of the other sex, size, color etc etc of the other dog - its in their genetics! Thats why breeding stands were made. And please disregard the other post in here, trying to socialize a dog aggressive dog wont do anything but cause scuffles. You need to be responsible and take EVERY precaution that you can so you dont have an accident.

Now, why are you wanting to breed this male? Is he a conformation Ch. or maybe an excellent working dog? My point here is, there is zero need to breed your male unless he has earned the right to do so. I love my dogs and think they are all great in their certain aspects, but fact is there will always always be someone out there with better dogs than what i could produce myself. That is why I dont breed my dogs, there is no need too.
First of all I'm not wondering why the dog is agressive, I know why he is. And I know they make breeding stands, So you wan't me to put a MALE in a breeding stand? And, Who said he hasn't earned the right to breed? You do not know the dog, or what right he has earned!

EastTexas
12-10-2007, 08:49 PM
excellent post. it's intersting to see the questions posed about breeding and why their dog may or may not want to breed. if someone is asking a question such as why does my dog just want to fight instead of breed, well maybe you shouldn't be breeding. at least leran how to deal with those problems before attempting to breed. *sigh*
I did not ask why the dog want's to fight and not breed I asked had anyone else ever had or heard of a male not wanting to breed, but wanting to fight reguardless if the female is in heat!

EastTexas
12-10-2007, 08:50 PM
WOW!

Been breeding dogs or at least owning them for how long now?

And don't have the slightest clue to what DA is?

*Rolls Eyes and Shakes Head*
Once again I did not ask anything about dog agression. I asked had anyone ever came across this beside's me.

woody d
12-10-2007, 08:52 PM
i think if you put on some luther vandross, get a nice bottle of wine for the two of them, he ll come around. anyway, what did ya expect, come on a forum like this and ask a novice question

simms
12-10-2007, 08:55 PM
Ok, you have had this breed for years and you are wondering why your APBT is dog aggressive??!........... MANY MANY MANY of these dogs are dog aggressive irregardless of the other sex, size, color etc etc of the other dog - its in their genetics! Thats why breeding stands were made. And please disregard the other post in here, trying to socialize a dog aggressive dog wont do anything but cause scuffles. You need to be responsible and take EVERY precaution that you can so you dont have an accident.

Now, why are you wanting to breed this male? Is he a conformation Ch. or maybe an excellent working dog? My point here is, there is zero need to breed your male unless he has earned the right to do so. I love my dogs and think they are all great in their certain aspects, but fact is there will always always be someone out there with better dogs than what i could produce myself. That is why I dont breed my dogs, there is no need too.

I dont think that was what the question was..... I think he is saying the dog is not breedable on his own. The OP is looking for some experiance and suggestions.

EastTexas
12-10-2007, 08:57 PM
OK whats the question? Why is my male aggressive or why am I breeding? To answer both. Your male there is young and dumb and full of,...... come on seriously hes a male he dont know what getting laid is yet... he wants to be a boy and fight, and yes I seen plenty of males and females like that. To answer the other no you shouldnt and nobody knows why you are.
I didn't ask either question! So your trying to tell me a male don't know what breeding is at 2 and a half years? I have heard of byb's breeding male's at 9 month's! But, that's not what this post is about. And just to let ya'll know that has been the only litter I have had in the last 3 years, and I know where all 6 of those pups are and what they are doing. So I didn't ask should I breed or Why do you think I am!

EastTexas
12-10-2007, 09:03 PM
I dont think that was what the question was..... I think he is saying the dog is not breedable on his own. The OP is looking for some experiance and suggestions.
I'm not looking for experience or suggestions. Is everybody on this site so blinded by hypocritisim that they can't even read. I asked the question I wanted comment's about on the Thread I posted. Has anyone ever owned or heard of a male like this? I know how to handle the situation if I want him bred. A trip to the vet ain't no problem.

misterdogman
12-10-2007, 09:05 PM
I didn't ask either question! So your trying to tell me a male don't know what breeding is at 2 and a half years? I have heard of byb's breeding male's at 9 month's! But, that's not what this post is about. And just to let ya'll know that has been the only litter I have had in the last 3 years, and I know where all 6 of those pups are and what they are doing. So I didn't ask should I breed or Why do you think I am!yes thats what im trying to tell you. and who cares about the rest of the breeding history of bybs, it dont matter. your dog aint a 9mos byb dog so why compare, and every dog is different and hes just fight crazy and not interested in smell or sex. its a fact. is he inbred ?...wait until fes 4 and see how he acts round girls...

Dtwo
12-10-2007, 09:06 PM
Man - reading comprehension anyone?
The OP said "does anyone have a male or seen one like that".

You may have to go with artificial insemination if you can't get him to breed naturally.
Where are you trying to do the breeding? On the males property or the females?
If he is attacking her on his property, then try sending him to the bitches house and keeping him there a week or so.

simms
12-10-2007, 09:08 PM
I'm not looking for experience or suggestions. Is everybody on this site so blinded by hypocritisim that they can't even read. I asked the question I wanted comment's about on the Thread I posted. Has anyone ever owned or heard of a male like this? I know how to handle the situation if I want him bred. A trip to the vet ain't no problem.
Yes, and dog's like that are not uncommon.

EastTexas
12-10-2007, 09:16 PM
Man - reading comprehension anyone?
The OP said "does anyone have a male or seen one like that".

You may have to go with artificial insemination if you can't get him to breed naturally.
Where are you trying to do the breeding? On the males property or the females?
If he is attacking her on his property, then try sending him to the bitches house and keeping him there a week or so.

I tried to do the breeding at the female's place, because like I posted I do not own the male, A friend of mine does. He has not been on my yard since he was 8 weeks old.

And like I said I have not had a litter in the past 3 years. So there was a reason for the breeding. I breed for my benefit. The male wouldn't breed so I passed the female. If I was just looking to breed I would have hit her with another male.

Suki
12-10-2007, 09:48 PM
yes i have heard of this and no it's not all that uncommon. seems he's simply not interested in breeding yet, and waiting another 6 months or so, as mentioned, might do a lot as far as him becoming "interested"...
give it some time... ;)

renegadepit
12-10-2007, 10:01 PM
Its not uncommon. I've seen it also where a male would not breed to a female. I've seen a male who was not dog aggressive and the female was in heat with the tail to the side ready to go. The owners tried for days. The male was just not interested, and when the male is not interested theres nothing you could do about that. Maybe (like the above mentioned) artificial insemination would be your only bet.
Question. Has that male been bred before?

ColbyDogs
12-10-2007, 10:09 PM
My last male was very much like that. He was hell bent on world domination and would try to scrap with anything within his sights. It is not uncommon for some dogs to never want to breed.

DryCreek
12-11-2007, 11:31 AM
A male who has never experienced the breeding process does not understand what is expected of him. All he sees is another dog and his brain turns up a notch. Many times it's the fact that they can't slow down enough once they hit that zone to actually even smell whats in front of them.

I have seen dogs that won't slow down enough to sniff the female and in doing so peak their interest. Sometimes, getting the male interested in the smell of a female in heat requires the smell, with no other dog present. Using an old clean rag you wipe the genital area of the female with it to get her smell on it then introduce the rag to the male. Do this for a few days before your ready to breed and right before you breed. When you introduce the male for breeding, make sure he approaches the female from the rear, no face to face contact (I would use a muzzle for the male at this point) Only let him get close enough so all he can do is smell, no contact. When he starts to sniff in earnest and trys to lick the female, you can try letting him mount her. You'll know if it's safe to remove the muzzle once he's dedicated to the job at hand.

Some dogs will chose fight with some females and fancy with others, and visa versa.

If all else fails and the breeding is important enough to you, there is the AI method.