Pic of Jeeps Bro CH.Charlie...

[KURUPT]

Crenshaw's CH.Charlie (Finley's CH.Bo 3xW 1xL (ROM) x Crenshaw's CH Honeybunch 3xW (ROM)(POR) ) Some say Jeep died after his match with Homer and CH.Charlie is the one that produced most of the CH's Jeep get's credit for...Is this true or not we will never know?????

[KnOck]

Crenshaw's CH.Charlie (Finley's CH.Bo 3xW 1xL (ROM) x Crenshaw's CH Honeybunch 3xW (ROM)(POR) ) Some say Jeep died after his match with Homer and CH.Charlie is the one that porduced most of the CH's Jeep get's credit for...Is this true or not we will never know?????
Something to make ya go, hmmmmmmm.... :rolleyes:

[KURUPT]

Yup...I never liked the jeep dogs myself anyway...

[Bubba]

Fella I know runs a bunch of the Charlie stuff, stuff from Super Gnats yard. He bred a bitch to CH Bear and is real happy with those dogs so far...
BB

[3BK]

owned some jeep dogs before.... one thing i hate about 'em... they hate being bit on the face....

yis....

[KURUPT]

Fella I know runs a bunch of the Charlie stuff, stuff from Super Gnats yard. He bred a bitch to CH Bear and is real happy with those dogs so far...
BB

Cool CH.Charlie was said to be a all around better dog then jeep.. Good to see someone with his blood....

[MMK]

i thought bo was a 5xw-1xl.
MMK

[LA_Headhunters]

owned some jeep dogs before.... one thing i hate about 'em... they hate being bit on the face....

yis....

Yea I agree with ya there. The heavy bred Jeep dogs do leave alot to be desired.

[bigmurfdogg]

i am glad that someone reminded people about charlie siring some of jeep offspring.the only thing that jeep lovers ever want to talk about is frisco not the top rom dog,how he is a cur.the fact of the matter is that frisco has produced some good and some bad.i heard this rumor before about chalie but can not honestly say that i know this to be true. i just wish these jeep lovers would give frisco and tg some credit.and just like SOME OF THE FRISCO DOGS,ALOT OF JEEP DOGS DON'T BRING ALOT TO THE TABLE WHEN IT IS TIME TO HUNT.BASICALLY I PREFER THE FRISCO/CHINAMAN DOGS BUT THE JEEP DOGS HAVE HAD SOME GREAT ONES! #1 ROM FRISCO,#2 JEEP THEY BOTH WERE GREAT DOGS AND SHOULD GET THE CREDIT THEY DESERVE WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO TRY TO IMPROVE THE BREED AND STOP BASHING EVERY FAMILY OF DOGS,ESPECIALLY THE FAMILY WITH THE MOST FAST LANE DOGS! LOL BIGMURFDOGG

[Nitrous]

I agree with you about that, too many people bashing..

[bubbagump]

THIS WHAT JAMES CRENSHAW SAID IN HIS BOOK. THERE ARE SOME IDIOTS, OR AN IDIOT, OUT THERE THAT SAYS JEEP DIED AFTER THE HOMER MATCH. THIS IS NOT TRUE. THERE IS A PICTURE PHOTO OF JEEP, CRENSHAW, JIM GARRETT, AND BROADWAY JACK A FEW WEEKS AFTER THE MATCH IN THE BOOK. I HEARD RUMOR THAT SOMEONE SEEN JEEP DIED AFTER THE MATCH. I WOULD LIKE VERY MUCH FOR THIS PERSON TO CONTACT ME. OR, IF THE PERSON SPREADING THIS BS WOULD FURNISH THE NAME OF THE PERSON THAT SAW THIS. HOWEVER, WE ALL KNOW THE PERSON THAT IS TRYING TO DISCREDIT ANYONE'S DOGS OR BLOODLINES IS JUST JEALOUS OF ANYONE WHO HAS DONE WELL WITH THE DOGS AND FEELS AND SAYS THE SAME ABOUT ALL SUCCESSFUL BREEDERS (THAT THE PAPERS ARE NOT RIGHT OR THEY LIED ABOUT THIS OR THE OTHER). THIS JUST SHOWS THAT THIS MAN HAS NOTHING OF HIS OWN TO BE KNOWN FOR AND FEELS HE CAN HELP HIS PUPPY SALES BY CRITICIZING OTHERS. GOOD BOOK BY JAMES CRENSHAW.:D

[bubbagump]

CRENSHAW SAID IN HIS BOOK THE ONLY THING HE DID NOT LIKE ABOUT JEEP HE WAS NOT A FINISHER AND CHARLIE WOULD FINISH WHEN HE HAD THE OPPERTUNITY.

[cobra316]

I think you got a nice breed there

[Big River Kennels]

jeep dogs tend to have more intelligence and are easier to train. house broke mine in 2 days. it was trained by snapping my fingers and pointing at her travel cage at 9pm everynite. took her about 4 days to get that down. she is a very intelligent animal. I love her.

[Freak2Life]

I Love dogs descended from Bullyson though!They make good family dogs too!

[who]

nice pic of a good bulldog....yall are saying that pure jeep bloodlines has attributes that are desired you that comes from GOOD breeding practices...they kept it PURE didnt do alot of crosses....except for the rdboy cross stuff but i think that was just STUPID why cross to a line that doesnt have the ability yeah they were a proven GAME family but when the jeep family already has those things why do it....this is my opinion....REDBOY freaks wanting to IMPROVE thier line cause what they had wasnt very good for the "FASTLANE" and they needed somthing to put into it....but the jeep dogs have it and if bred right will keep it

[JC-Pitbulls]

the jeep dogs have it and if bred right will keep it[/QUOTE]

I agree on that

[lin chung]

wasn't their sister (ch holly) supposed to be better than both jeep and charlie ?

[DEACON ROM]

garner managed his frisco blood very very well. period.

[DEACON ROM]

jeep 3:45min....please....that was a dam bulldog.....his littermates were better? sounds like his ego talkin there.

[dmd66]

can someone post the site to the ch charlie blood. thanks

[GameKid16]

who won the match between homer and jeep?? is it mtn man homer???

[Crash97]

who won the match between homer and jeep?? is it mtn man homer???Jeep won. Yep.

[GameKid16]

in the story I read it says "And for his fourth and final match we went into Ozzie Steven's CH. HOMER, at 43 pounds and won in 3:45. This was one of those Classic matches, that history is made from. Two Great Game Dogs met, and only one could win."

that makes it O. Stevens CH HOMER

[Crash97]

It is my understanding that they were one and the same dog, just under different owners names. But I'm sure there is someone on here who can clear this up.

Edit: Now ya got me wondering....lol

[TabDogs]

It is my understanding that they were one and the same dog, just under different owners names. But I'm sure there is someone on here who can clear this up.

Edit: Now ya got me wondering....lol
O steven's Homer and Mtn. Man's Homer were two different dogs ...This is O Steven's Homer...http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=271 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=271)
This is Mtn. Man's Homer..http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=154 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=154)

Jeep went into O Steven's Homer...

[Scotsman]

Jeep and Charlie are 2 very different looking dogs, I think only a blind man could confuse the two. Charlie was the better performer and as history has shown, good performers usually aren't great producers.
Jeep was supposed to go into Stepp's Angus, but Crenshaw dodged the match after he lost to Angus with his Otis dog (Otis was the only dog to survive against him).

[Crash97]

Thanks Tab. I'm glad someone cleared that up.

[TabDogs]

No problem;)

[mackdaddy]

I own a jeep honeybunch dog which is 11 yrs old, he has been bit from head to toe, nothing bothered him. owned some jeep dogs before.... one thing i hate about 'em... they hate being bit on the face....

yis....

[reed]

Yeh,it's Some Around Where I Live That Like It Rough.never Heard That One About Them Not Liking To Take It In The Head.can Somebody Tell More About Angus.who Has This Blood?

[pitlver]

I THINK WE ALL WOULD HATE BEING BIT IN THE FACE. I KNOW I WOULD NOT TO MENTION THAT THE WIFE WOULDN'T LIKE SEING THIS GRILL MESSED UP HAHAHAHA:D owned some jeep dogs before.... one thing i hate about 'em... they hate being bit on the face....

yis....

[GameKid16]

how does bloodline determine when and were the dog does or does not like getting bite??
just because someones dad likes getting hit in the face dont mean you do?? that the way I feel. its all person prefrence.. I think it more of the dogs attidude than bloodline??

someone correct me if I am wrong

[Scotsman]

There really isn't any straight Angus blood around. He never really was a producer. Super Gnat used Angus/Charlie (yes Jeep's bother) crosses and still has some of that blood, but it is not very tight.

[14rock]

how does bloodline determine when and were the dog does or does not like getting bite??
just because someones dad likes getting hit in the face dont mean you do?? that the way I feel. its all person prefrence.. I think it more of the dogs attidude than bloodline??

someone correct me if I am wrong
True to an extent but you've also got to realize that humans arent bred the way dogs are, you mention that you arent going to be like your dad, well although the chances are you will be similar in most ways, look at how tightly these dogs are bred to us. I mean, most of these dogs are extremely linebred off say jeep where all the grandparents are direct decendants of jeep, thus making all the parents pure decendants of jeep-thankfully this doesnt happen with us because for 1.Its illegal and immoral to make offspring with such close family members and 2. If we were bred the same way, we would all die from severe inbreeding in a couple generations. Look at certain groups of Amish for example, they only mated within a certain genepool for so long they became inbred and had severe health problems.....awhile back alot of Amish groups were advertising in local news papers to bring in new blood to help stop the rapid decline of their health and overall structure. We cant compare humans like we compare dogs because they can be inbred for long periods of time without any adverse side-effects if proper specimins are used, and therefore we cannot be bred as tightly as them, and that makes us take after our parents and granparents a hell of alot less than them. Im far from an expert on genetics but I hope you were able to grasp what Im trying to say. Do you understand now why us taking after a relative is likely, however not near as likely as a linebred say jeep dog taking after purely jeep alone.

[GameKid16]

True to an extent but you've also got to realize that humans arent bred the way dogs are, you mention that you arent going to be like your dad, well although the chances are you will be similar in most ways, look at how tightly these dogs are bred to us. I mean, most of these dogs are extremely linebred off say jeep where all the grandparents are direct decendants of jeep, thus making all the parents pure decendants of jeep-thankfully this doesnt happen with us because for 1.Its illegal and immoral to make offspring with such close family members and 2. If we were bred the same way, we would all die from severe inbreeding in a couple generations. Look at certain groups of Amish for example, they only mated within a certain genepool for so long they became inbred and had severe health problems.....awhile back alot of Amish groups were advertising in local news papers to bring in new blood to help stop the rapid decline of their health and overall structure. We cant compare humans like we compare dogs because they can be inbred for long periods of time without any adverse side-effects if proper specimins are used, and therefore we cannot be bred as tightly as them, and that makes us take after our parents and granparents a hell of alot less than them. Im far from an expert on genetics but I hope you were able to grasp what Im trying to say. Do you understand now why us taking after a relative is likely, however not near as likely as a linebred say jeep dog taking after purely jeep alone
thanks you rock, that answerd my question, but I have a new one, I have had alot of people saythat a redboy dog doesnt like been growled at?? is this true.. also what do other tight breed lines not like? eli,jeep,redboy,chinaman ETC ETC

[young pit man]

i have a jeep/gator bitch and love her you will not find a gamer bitch she is breed and haveing pups to a pure gator

[Keyo77]

If you want to talk about top producing rom dogs what about Gr.CH Maday ROM I believe he has out produced Frisco by 2 points.




i am glad that someone reminded people about charlie siring some of jeep offspring.the only thing that jeep lovers ever want to talk about is frisco not the top rom dog,how he is a cur.the fact of the matter is that frisco has produced some good and some bad.i heard this rumor before about chalie but can not honestly say that i know this to be true. i just wish these jeep lovers would give frisco and tg some credit.and just like SOME OF THE FRISCO DOGS,ALOT OF JEEP DOGS DON'T BRING ALOT TO THE TABLE WHEN IT IS TIME TO HUNT.BASICALLY I PREFER THE FRISCO/CHINAMAN DOGS BUT THE JEEP DOGS HAVE HAD SOME GREAT ONES! #1 ROM FRISCO,#2 JEEP THEY BOTH WERE GREAT DOGS AND SHOULD GET THE CREDIT THEY DESERVE WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO TRY TO IMPROVE THE BREED AND STOP BASHING EVERY FAMILY OF DOGS,ESPECIALLY THE FAMILY WITH THE MOST FAST LANE DOGS! LOL BIGMURFDOGG

[Scotsman]

No Mayday has not out produced Frisco, but MAyday is ahead of jeep. Frisco is to far ahead.

[Bubba]

Who cares whos ahead of who...the ROM list is a biased list as MOST of the dogs on that list, have been bred 100+times. Thats no impressive, the list would be better served if it was based on percentages.
BB

[DryCreek]

I agree Bubba....much more impressive to make ROM out of 1 or 2 litters instead of out of a few hundred offspring.

[c.milledge]

i am glad that someone reminded people about charlie siring some of jeep offspring.the only thing that jeep lovers ever want to talk about is frisco not the top rom dog,how he is a cur.the fact of the matter is that frisco has produced some good and some bad.i heard this rumor before about chalie but can not honestly say that i know this to be true. i just wish these jeep lovers would give frisco and tg some credit.and just like SOME OF THE FRISCO DOGS,ALOT OF JEEP DOGS DON'T BRING ALOT TO THE TABLE WHEN IT IS TIME TO HUNT.BASICALLY I PREFER THE FRISCO/CHINAMAN DOGS BUT THE JEEP DOGS HAVE HAD SOME GREAT ONES! #1 ROM FRISCO,#2 JEEP THEY BOTH WERE GREAT DOGS AND SHOULD GET THE CREDIT THEY DESERVE WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO TRY TO IMPROVE THE BREED AND STOP BASHING EVERY FAMILY OF DOGS,ESPECIALLY THE FAMILY WITH THE MOST FAST LANE DOGS! LOL BIGMURFDOGGu right i have floyd dogs nigerino dogs my buddy has waccamaw dogs and i bet u they are going to work good but i dont
run that blood so people need to give every blood its credit

[mydawgs]

O steven's Homer and Mtn. Man's Homer were two different dogs ...This is O Steven's Homer...http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=271 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=271)
This is Mtn. Man's Homer..http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=154 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=154)

Jeep went into O Steven's Homer...
So Jeep never faced MMs Homer?

[jasong]

All these dogs are great. You don't get the credentials these dogs have unless they have proven themselves one way or another. They all got to the line and continued to scratch. Unless you hae a dog that has done what they have, don't hate or speculate on what could of happen.

[nonstopkennels]

I dont know if you guys know this but Mayday will have enogh ROM points to be #1 on the ROM list if Mayden wins again. Dont take my word for it look it up. When I was told this I thought I was being lied to but he is now almost there.

i am glad that someone reminded people about charlie siring some of jeep offspring.the only thing that jeep lovers ever want to talk about is frisco not the top rom dog,how he is a cur.the fact of the matter is that frisco has produced some good and some bad.i heard this rumor before about chalie but can not honestly say that i know this to be true. i just wish these jeep lovers would give frisco and tg some credit.and just like SOME OF THE FRISCO DOGS,ALOT OF JEEP DOGS DON'T BRING ALOT TO THE TABLE WHEN IT IS TIME TO HUNT.BASICALLY I PREFER THE FRISCO/CHINAMAN DOGS BUT THE JEEP DOGS HAVE HAD SOME GREAT ONES! #1 ROM FRISCO,#2 JEEP THEY BOTH WERE GREAT DOGS AND SHOULD GET THE CREDIT THEY DESERVE WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO TRY TO IMPROVE THE BREED AND STOP BASHING EVERY FAMILY OF DOGS,ESPECIALLY THE FAMILY WITH THE MOST FAST LANE DOGS! LOL BIGMURFDOGG

[ABK]

I would venture to say that Jeep sired most of the litters credited to him simply for this reason: Charlie was a piebald dog. Extreme white piebald a recessive trait. If there was a lot of Charlie blood in these dogs you'd be seeing a lot more piebald "Jeep" dogs. But we're not. That leads me to believe that Jeep dogs are just that - Jeep dogs.

JMHO ...

[gametime]

jeep dogs are good. my female has a bit of jeep in her.. jeep could produce good ones. i think jeep x frisco is a good proven battle cross add a lil snooty to it and ya got a fire going........

[jeepdogkennel]

http://www.dawnrestdogs.org/STORIES_GARRETTSJEEP.html