What a Zebo dog should really look like (pic heavy)

[ABK]

I get tons of calls from ppl wanting a dog w/ "thick bone" or from ppl that tell me so-&-so told them that Lonzo bred dogs are nothing more than short, squatty 30 min. curs. Even this last week I had my best friend, who is an avid show dog person who has seen many, many dogs in many states tell me all the Lonzo dogs she has ever seen were "stump-legged alligator mouthed" little dogs. Well, I have decided to put this to rest. Below I have posted a little seen pic of GR.CH. Zebo along side two of my Lonzo bred dogs -

Zebo:

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7664/zebopicwr9.png


India: (3/4ths Lonzo)

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1994/bail327025lj0.jpg


Baby (7/8ths Lonzo):

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6712/baby1120017rk4.jpg


As you can see, Zebo was NOT a short legged or stocky dog. In fact, it has been written about Zebo that his legs were so long that they looked like they belonged on a TALLER dog.

Well bred, true to type Lonzo dogs will NOT be short or squatty. That is a trend that has come up the past few years & is promoted by a certain breeder whom I shall not name to MAKE MONEY. These "frog dogs" in the Lonzo line are no better than the stumpy-legged RE dogs we see out there today. Lonzo strain Zebo dogs are NOT meant to be short & squatty!

OK, I've had my vent. Thank you for listening! :D

[WWII]

I'm guessing that this pic also didn't help. Here he looks pretty squat.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u215/pudgemistro/adams_gr_ch_zebo2.jpg

[ABK]

Yes, you are right & that pic is what most folks go by. The pic I posted is a 3/4ths side view on dirt shows his leg much better. The pic of him sitting is shot closer up & slightly above him, distorting his physique a bit & part of his leg is concealed in grass, making him look shorter & stocker than he really is.

But if they would reference this pic - another quite popular pic BTW - they would see how leggy he was:

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pictures/7.jpg

[elgin64]

I get tons of calls from ppl wanting a dog w/ "thick bone" or from ppl have tell me so-&-so told them that Lonzo bred dogs are nothing more than short squatty 30 min. curs. Even this last week I had my best friend, who is an avid show dog person who has seen many, many dogs in many states tell me all the Lonzo dogs she has ever seen were "stump-legged alligator mouthed" little dogs. Well, I have decided to put this to rest. Below I have posted a little seen pic of GR.CH. Zebo along side two of my Lonzo bred dogs -

Zebo:

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7664/zebopicwr9.png


India: (3/4ths Lonzo)

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1994/bail327025lj0.jpg


Baby (7/8ths Lonzo):

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6712/baby1120017rk4.jpg


As you can see, Zebo was NOT a short legged or stocky dog. In fact, it has been written about Zebo that his legs were so long that they looked like they belonged on a TALLER dog.

Well bred, true to type Lonzo dogs will NOT be short or squatty. That is a trend that has come up the past few years & is promoted by a certain breeder whom I shall not name to MAKE MONEY. These "frog dogs" in the Lonzo line are no better than the stumpy-legged RE dogs we see out there today. Lonzo strain Zebo dogs are NOT meant to be short & squatty!

OK, I've had my vent. Thank you for listening! :D

Your dogs aren't stumpy at all. They look great

[ABK]

Thank you elgin! ;)

I just posted this to dispell a myth. I get so doggone tired of folks assuming I have "thick boned" frog dogs as soon as they hear the name "Lonzo." That's not what true to type Lonzo dogs are all about!

Here are some more pics of the TRUE old type Lonzo dogs, none of which were short or stocky -

Vindicator battling Bo circa 1974:
(I hope this pic does not offend, but it was the only body pic of Vindy I could find)

I'm sorry ABK, I had to remove that pic as it goes against forum rules. If people are interested in seeing it I would suggest sending it to them by p.m.
Thanks
DryCreek:)

Lancaster's Snake:

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8611/snakese4.jpg


And one probably never seen on the Internet, King Elvis I:

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1269/elvismp7.jpg

As you can see, like Zebo, none of these historic Lonzo dogs of the past were short legged, stocky dogs.

[dogged]

Beautiful dogs, ABK. Baby is especially stunning.

[ABK]

Thank you dogged. I hope our dogs will lay some misconceptions to rest about Lonzo dogs. Many people cannot believe that Baby is almost pure Lonzo! ;)

[jman11]

zebo is an eli dog




waits for hilarity to ensue....



in all seriousness, i can see exactly what you mean, i think the picture of Lonzos Andy, along with the pic of Zebo sitting down that has people thinking that there "bully" and "squatty".


Thanks for the pics though ABK, very much enjoyed

[ABK]

No problem jman. I hope folks do enjoy these historic pics & see what a REAL Lonzo strain Zebo dog is supposed to look like.

The pic of Andy is deceiving too. He looks much more short legged than he b/c he is laying in the grass. I'd love to see what he looked like standing. But even still, if they'd do their homework on the line, folks should know Lonzo dogs aren't supposed to be squatty b/c none of the famous foundation dogs for today's modern Lonzo line were squatty. A true to type (key words there) Lonzo dog will be leggy like foundation dogs, Zebo & Vindicator (although Vindy was said to be shorter than his brother Zebo, he still had nice leg under him).

As for Zebo, it is a known that Zebo is off Andy x Angie. The pedigree of ANDY is one one in question, not Zebo's. If you will look in some old sporting dogs mags you will see this. Peds in those mags show Zebo as Andy x Angie & Angie's ped is the one we know today, but but Andy's ped was blank.

From what I understand, it was only some years after these publications of Andy's blank ped did the "Zebo is off Eli" rumor begin. And why it began I don't know. Zebo looks nothing like an Eli dog, nor do any of his offspring to this day. Zebo looks like his sire, Andy.

Now who is Andy really sired by? That I can't say. Only Lonzo knows that. Maybe he will let us know in his tell-all book he says he's been saying he's going to publish. ;)

[renegadepit]

What about Zebo's performance? Anyone know. I've asked someone about Zebo bred dogs last year and he said Zebo isnt' nothing, that its just a name? Just curious.

[ABK]

Just like anything, there are good & bad in any line. The short, squatty dogs are usually 30 min. curs. They just don't have the physique or wind to compete. But if you get a good, old style working type Zebo dog who has the drive you need, you can bet the house on it. The problem is - like the RE dogs, folks are falling for the short, stocky look, so the working style Zebo dogs are getting harder & harder to find. But here are a few working Zebo dogs I like:

http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=209533

http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=9114

http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=9116

http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=56356

http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=115567

And these are just the ones I could think right off the top of my head. If I did an in depth search, I could come up w/ many, many more.

So in short, your friend is right & wrong. There are some Zebo dogs - esp. Lonzo dogs - being bred for the name. But there are pockets of breeders out there who ARE breeding working Zebo dogs who will gladly take your money if you let them. ;)

[Dred Lok Kennels]

I totally agree with you..........

Zebo http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=230623

[jman11]

Just like anything, there are good & bad in any line. The short, squatty dogs are usually 30 min. curs. They just don't have the physique or wind to compete. But if you get a good, old style working type Zebo dog who has the drive you need, you can bet the house on it. The problem is - like the RE dogs, folks are falling for the short, stocky look, so the working style Zebo dogs are getting harder & harder to find. But here are a few working Zebo dogs I like:

http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=209533

http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=9114

http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=9116

http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=56356

http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=115567

And these are just the ones I could think right off the top of my head. If I did an in depth search, I could come up w/ many, many more.

So in short, your friend is right & wrong. There are some Zebo dogs - esp. Lonzo dogs - being bred for the name. But there are pockets of breeders out there who ARE breeding working Zebo dogs who will gladly take your money if you let them. ;)TY for this info!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to ABK again.

[jman11]

zebo dog
http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=41243

[ABK]

Nice dogs DLK & jman! :D

[jman11]

I totally agree with you..........

Zebo http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=230623dredlock.... what it is???

like that dog!

[ABK]

Me too ... those Toby dogs can get it done!

[Dred Lok Kennels]

Nice dogs DLK & jman! :D

Thank you........

[Dred Lok Kennels]

dredlock.... what it is???

like that dog!

He is a Zebo/Eli cross (my yard) or if you beleive Zebo is off of Eli a Pure Eli bulldog I've centered my yard around this toby blood for over 10 years now and there the best to be had (imo) great all around bulldogs can do it all get any job you want done, done well this sound to much like a ad but you get the point I love them........

[woody d]

for some reason i cant see india, but baby is very nice

[GAPITS]

So just to clarify are you saying a Zebo/Vindy dog couldn't look like this?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/GAPITS/annacrop4.jpg

[yellaman420]

yeah, she's not poppin up on mine either. Well, this is good stuff to hear about them old Zebo dogs. Ive usually heard the 30min rule is how you measure them. Its good to know that there are still some out there livin up to the old dog. I was just on another board last night, eli dogs was the topic and how they can be fond of walking away w/out any signs. Heard the same about Zebo bred dogs too... Do any of yall know of any crosses to diff lines w/ Zebo that are throwin high % dogs?

[ABK]

woody: Here is another pic of India. I hope this works:

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/3961/bail327025qo4.jpg

GAPits: I did not say a Zebo dog could not look like Anne. My post was actually about the Lonzo strain of Zebo dogs, but a lot of the Luniewski dogs look like yours. From what I can see of the pic, it looks like she has some leg under her & appears she has a nice physique. Her muzzle looks a bit pugged & she looks as she may have a slight underbite, but I hear that is from the inbreeding in the Luniewski stuff. My Lunie girls had pugged muzzles & slight underbites too. Why that comnes up I don't know, as the original foundation stock did not appear to be pugged muzzled or undershot.

Yellaman: I don't know the %s, but some crosses I know right off the top of my head that are good ones are:

Zebo/Eli
Zebo/Greenwood
Zebo/ Sorrells
Zebo/Snooty
Zebo/Jeep
Zebo/Charlie

Hope this helps :)

[Dred Lok Kennels]

yeah, she's not poppin up on mine either. Well, this is good stuff to hear about them old Zebo dogs. Ive usually heard the 30min rule is how you measure them. Its good to know that there are still some out there livin up to the old dog. I was just on another board last night, eli dogs was the topic and how they can be fond of walking away w/out any signs. Heard the same about Zebo bred dogs too... Do any of yall know of any crosses to diff lines w/ Zebo that are throwin high % dogs?
Yeah I've herad this 30min. talk about Zebo bulldogs and I hope people really keep thinking this way :D they are not the worlds best but I would challenge anyone to tell what bloodline is?

[GAPITS]

Well for percentages I can only speak from personal experience and close friends that have personal knowledge:

The two that have been consistent in producing are Zebo/Eli & Zebo/Greenwood. The others might have produced a few here and there but for consistency those seem to be the only ones.
I personally would not cross the Zebo/Sorrells as I have seen it done several times and it was extremely dissapointing.
I would also like to say IMO that if you use Zebo you should use a little of that with alot of something else, it seems that percentages are much higher using Zebo as the kicker. :)

[yellaman420]

Abk- thanks for the info on those crosses. Ive heard of some of them being made but didnt know if anyone had put together anything diff or not.
Dredlok- yeah, its always good to be underestimated. When all the blah blah blah turns in to open mouthed silence. Have yall had any problems w/ inbreeding them? Ive noticed that a bunch of the lonzo dogs that Ive seen are now poppin out red instead of black...? Am I mistaken in thinkin that is the new direction of that family?

[yellaman420]

GA-you gotta link for anything Z/G? I really dont know what he built his strain on. Have you seen any RedDevil/Zebo crosses that worked?

[NcPrisonGuard]

Here's my girl Angel.. Eli/Maverick with some outs to Lonzo. A touch of Zebo, six bits and Nigger Toby.. I've be real pleased thus far.

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=224872

[Dred Lok Kennels]

Here is some interesting reading its mostlly about Floyds blood but check out what he thinks about how Zebo was bred this dosen't make it true but very interesting http://www.riospitbull.com/floyd_boudreaux.htm

[btlover]

Here is our nice lil girl.



http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pedigrees/printPedigree.php?dog_id=258539

[Envy's Mom]

ABK I just love Baby. That little face looks so sweet. Thanks for the clarification about the Lonzo dogs. I like the old pics.

[Mr Mark]

ABK, beautiful dogs and great confirmation.

I wouldn't classify Lonzo dogs as Zebo dogs however. The Lonzo dogs are mosty built around Vindicator and Mike. The highest percentage of Zebo in any of the Lonzo dogs I think is only about 12%. Now the N.Toby stuff I would definatley classify as a Zebo strain. Now, I too do not know how Zebo is really bred, but I do know that the N.Toby strain works well with the SixBit/Maverick strain of Eli dogs!

BTW, what's up Dred Lok?

[deepsouth]

ABK, what category would you put Lonzo's Snake in? Snake dog is on the "squatty" side but is supposed to have tons of drive. Well, at least that's what I heard.

BTW, you have some beautiful Zebo dogs.

[chinasmom]

Thank you elgin! ;)

I just posted this to dispell a myth. I get so doggone tired of folks assuming I have "thick boned" frog dogs as soon as they hear the name "Lonzo." That's not what true to type Lonzo dogs are all about!

Here are some more pics of the TRUE old type Lonzo dogs, none of which were short or stocky -

Vindicator battling Bo circa 1974:
(I hope this pic does not offend, but it was the only body pic of Vindy I could find)

I'm sorry ABK, I had to remove that pic as it goes against forum rules. If people are interested in seeing it I would suggest sending it to them by p.m.
Thanks
DryCreek:)

Lancaster's Snake:

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8611/snakese4.jpg


And one probably never seen on the Internet, King Elvis I:

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1269/elvismp7.jpg

As you can see, like Zebo, none of these historic Lonzo dogs of the past were short legged, stocky dogs.
Where you been ABK. King Elvis I is in my sig.;)

[Hardhead]

Here's my girl Angel.. Eli/Maverick with some outs to Lonzo. A touch of Zebo, six bits and Nigger Toby.. I've be real pleased thus far.

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=224872
Nice little bitch.

-J

[ABK]

Hey guys. Sorry I haven't been on the thread. I will try to catch up.

Envy's Mom: Thank you for your kind words. I don't mean to toot my own horn, but Baby is really a cutie. As she is getting older she is getting this round cute little face & you want to pinch her little cheeks! :p

Mr. Mark: Thank you sir for your kind words. And yes, you are right in that dog by dog, Lonzo dogs are more Vindy than Zebo. However most ppl consider them "Zebo" dogs b/c there is a high % of Zebo's component blood in them as well as the blood Zebo himself contributed.

deepsouth: I do not know how I would classify Snake. I have only see one pic of him & it really didn't show if he had good lenght of leg or not. but even if a Lonzo dog has stumps for legs but has great drive (as is often the case) they are still not true to type as the original type was not squatty. Further, the squatty dogs are often big headed, alligator mouthed & pugged nosed, so as drivey as they may be, most perform poorly.

China's mom: I've been here. I was the one who put the pic that is in your sig on the 'Net.

[chinasmom]

Oh really! Pm me about it. Maybe you can tell me something about this dog as well.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f290/chinasmom/ccc3abb1.jpg

[ABK]

All you have to do is look at the first page of this thread. See the pic of KEI you pointed out? I posted that. It came direct from my PC. I had scanned it from an old SDJ ad specifically to use in that post that very day. Then you started using it in your sig shortly thereafter (which I do not mind at all, b/c as soon as I posted it on the 'Net it became public property).

As for your pic, I do not know it, but from your tone, I suspect it is KEI. Is it? And if so, where did you find the pic & who posted it on the 'Net? And tell the truth - no telling tales out of school! :p

[reddog]

The trouble with zebo is that he was breed to hundreds of bitchs.Anyone with a stud fee could breed to him.Therefor he threw a lot of curs.But that would be true with any stud dog that was bred that much.The puppy pedlers had a field day with that dog.He threw alot of hard mouth dogs.They just wouldnt go much past 30 min.I do disagree about short squaty dogs being 30 min curs.The gamest dog I ever saw go was the shortest squatyest dog you ever seen.ITS ALL ABOUT THE HEART!Just like anything, there are good & bad in any line. The short, squatty dogs are usually 30 min. curs. They just don't have the physique or wind to compete. But if you get a good, old style working type Zebo dog who has the drive you need, you can bet the house on it. The problem is - like the RE dogs, folks are falling for the short, stocky look, so the working style Zebo dogs are getting harder & harder to find. But here are a few working Zebo dogs I like:

http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=209533

http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=9114

http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=9116

http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=56356

http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=115567

And these are just the ones I could think right off the top of my head. If I did an in depth search, I could come up w/ many, many more.

So in short, your friend is right & wrong. There are some Zebo dogs - esp. Lonzo dogs - being bred for the name. But there are pockets of breeders out there who ARE breeding working Zebo dogs who will gladly take your money if you let them. ;)

[ladybanker462]

good looking dogs anything but short and stubby keep up the great work

[chinasmom]

All you have to do is look at the first page of this thread. See the pic of KEI you pointed out? I posted that. It came direct from my PC. I had scanned it from an old SDJ ad specifically to use in that post that very day. Then you started using it in your sig shortly thereafter (which I do not mind at all, b/c as soon as I posted it on the 'Net it became public property).

As for your pic, I do not know it, but from your tone, I suspect it is KEI. Is it? And if so, where did you find the pic & who posted it on the 'Net? And tell the truth - no telling tales out of school! :pTo be honest, I got it off some site of old dog pics. The caption read "Old Battling Rip." That's also where I found the pic of King Elvis I. If you go to myspace web page, you will see a complete section of old dog photos that most of which came from the same site.

[ABK]

reddog: I'm glad to see you found a short, squat dog that could work. I haven't seen a one. And it wasn't b/c they lacked heart, but it was b/c they lacked physical ability. But as they say, there are exceptions to every rule & I guess you found that exception! :p

ladybanker: Thank you for your kind words!

china's mom: Sorry for the mix up. I thought you got the KEI pic from my post since the pics are the exact same, even down to the crop of the pic. But thanks for the info about the myspace site, I will try to go check it out! :)

[chinasmom]

reddog: I'm glad to see you found a short, squat dog that could work. I haven't seen a one. And it wasn't b/c they lacked heart, but it was b/c they lacked physical ability. But as they say, there are exceptions to every rule & I guess you found that exception! :p

ladybanker: Thank you for your kind words!

china's mom: Sorry for the mix up. I thought you got the KEI pic from my post since the pics are the exact same, even down to the crop of the pic. But thanks for the info about the myspace site, I will try to go check it out! :)

That's cool. I've actually had it a good while, back when I made a post asking who a man and his dog were. That was 11/ 6/ 07. Turned out to be Clifford Ormsby and Champer Boy II. So you don't know who Old battling Rip might be?

[ABK]

I'm sorry I've never heard of him. I have heard of a dog called Lancaster's Rip though.

[misterdogman]

I get tons of calls from ppl wanting a dog w/ "thick bone" or from ppl that tell me so-&-so told them that Lonzo bred dogs are nothing more than short, squatty 30 min. curs. Even this last week I had my best friend, who is an avid show dog person who has seen many, many dogs in many states tell me all the Lonzo dogs she has ever seen were "stump-legged alligator mouthed" little dogs. Well, I have decided to put this to rest. Below I have posted a little seen pic of GR.CH. Zebo along side two of my Lonzo bred dogs -

Zebo:

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7664/zebopicwr9.png


India: (3/4ths Lonzo)

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1994/bail327025lj0.jpg


Baby (7/8ths Lonzo):

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6712/baby1120017rk4.jpg


As you can see, Zebo was NOT a short legged or stocky dog. In fact, it has been written about Zebo that his legs were so long that they looked like they belonged on a TALLER dog.

Well bred, true to type Lonzo dogs will NOT be short or squatty. That is a trend that has come up the past few years & is promoted by a certain breeder whom I shall not name to MAKE MONEY. These "frog dogs" in the Lonzo line are no better than the stumpy-legged RE dogs we see out there today. Lonzo strain Zebo dogs are NOT meant to be short & squatty!

OK, I've had my vent. Thank you for listening! :DI had a pure Lonzo dog right from Mr Arrington and it was quite short legged and roach backed, so some descriptions cant be painted with such a wide brush IMO, some dogs of the same very closely bred lines have very different traits when it comes to morphology. Not saying Lonzo dogs are any good rep of Zebo that is.

[maddog2020]

I wouldn't classify Lonzo dogs as Zebo dogs however. The Lonzo dogs are mosty built around Vindicator and Mike. The highest percentage of Zebo in any of the Lonzo dogs I think is only about 12%.

I agree, which is one of the reasons i believe zebo was off eli. if zebo would have come from lonzos dogs dont you think his dogs from then on would have been bred heavy on zebo, one of the greatest ever. but instead they are bred heavy on vindicator, who was a good dog but not zebos caliber. they are bred heavy on vindy because he is really from that family.

and i think it was ABK- you said zebo looks nothing like an eli dog, maybe not like most but when i look at zebo i see a copy of skull.

[ABK]

I myself don't see Skull (or any Eli dog) in any way, shape or form in him. I myself see a dog who is the spitting image of Lonzo's Andy.

There will always be the Eli rumour out there simply b/c most folks aren't versed on simple coat color genetics.

[NavasInc]

Thanx for the pics and info ABK!

[btlover]

I'm thinking of getting this guy. Wut do you guy's think of how he's breed?

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=210989&myPedigrees=1

[ManiacKennel]

i have always like the lonzo/eli/nigertoby stuff also lonzo/carver and just got a new bitch lonzo 50 %and the botom is yellow jeep i think if u cross this stuff just the right way with a line known for longer wind and deeper gameness and great fininshing abiltys u are then doing well not saying some them pure one cant fool ya either they have low % but when u get a good one watch out :cool:

[Dred Lok Kennels]

I dissagree with the low % part, cull and breed right and you will have the same % or better staying with a pure line rather than outcrosses or lose linebreedings %'s that way will be up and down to much, not stable "just my opinioun"........

[ABK]

No problem Navas!

And bt, your link didn't work. :(

[btlover]

Sorry about the link not working try this one.

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=210989

[Dragon64]

btlover im surprised and impressed i like your choices in males let me know if you get this male.

[ManiacKennel]

well i think the lonzo stuff is real tight and u get better dogs when crossed right sue u can take it pure but i will tell u its a long road

[Highbloodbulldog]

zebo is an eli dog




No way to know... we know the only the "talking" about Zebo being an Eli's Jr. half brother... but we don't know certainly... for sure, many people have doubts about this, me personally. We don't know from the hell were that black killer machine came... but he was one of the bests performance dogs ever... this we are certain.

TO EVERYBODY:

This is my little zebo bitch, I will not post her ped, but a similar one only (Doida has a little of Bullyson blood):
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=209533

Below some photos, i'd like to you to reply and write your oppinions.

http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/7/9/9/0/zeboshadesmk4_thumb.jpg (http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=21894&c=member&imageuser=7990)
At 12-13 months.

http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/7/9/9/0/zeboshadesmk0_thumb.jpg (http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=21948&c=member&imageuser=7990)
At 3 years.

http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/7/9/9/0/zeboshadesmk5_thumb.jpg (http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=21957&c=member&imageuser=7990)
At 3 years.

She was bred by Mr. Wolney (Uruguaiana, Brazil).

[ManiacKennel]

i belive zebo was bred the way his pedigree says but i also it dont matter most got it in the forth it just mastters up colse

[John Stompanato]

lonzo's danger sure he do looked like the old zebo stuff imo