Shaking head?

[SouLJah702]

Not so familiar with this and how it works but i did some research and couldnt find anything. My 7 mth pup puked this morn. lethargic, loungy all day,didnt want toeat. Her and my boy stay out back so i showered her and brought her in and what not. Usually I keep a close eye on them till their better but she started weirding me out because she would knod her head up and down fast and hard and continuously. In little short strokes, Im not sure if thats how much of pain shes in or if shes just weird. Never had it before in any previous APBT so I thought id ask some of you gurus. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Im sure this isnt common or any answers will pop up but thought id give it a shot...thanks for your time

[Phebes]

Have you taken her to the vet??

[chinasmom]

I would first look in her mouth and see if something is stuck in her throat or teethe and if so try to remove it. Would be wise to take her to a vet because what you are describing could be a seizure or ear infection or a number of other things. Do her eyes look normal or are they flickering? Does she walk straight? What does the vomit look like? We could guess all day long, but until she has been evaluated by a vet, you just don't know. Try to get her in to see one.

[Suki]

I would first look in her mouth and see if something is stuck in her throat or teethe and if so try to remove it. Would be wise to take her to a vet because what you are describing could be a seizure or ear infection or a number of other things. Do her eyes look normal or are they flickering? Does she walk straight? What does the vomit look like? We could guess all day long, but until she has been evaluated by a vet, you just don't know. Try to get her in to see one.
i echo this completely~ bring her in and get a PROPER evaluation. (too many things it could be...)..
good luck and keep us posted.

[SouLJah702]

Ok for sure vet time, she puked some more last night. Yellow kinda green, then this morning she poops out red diarhea (spelt wrong). Almost looked like blood but too thick to be blood, didnt see any worms but ill keep you guys posted. could be lil blood mixed w/ lil poop....not sure....but for sure plum red. Man i hope shes ok

[diva]

Symptoms do not sound good at all to me. Get her to the vet ASAP.

[SouLJah702]

F***!!!!!!! its parvo. Man this sucks. I got a grown pit about 3 yrs old. Can he get it also. I know its harder b/c he is older but is it possible. I sure hope not. So imma bleach everything on sight and wash all fabrics. Should i give my grown one a parvo shot. Will it help. And what about my lil one. They gave her a couple diff injections and stuffed a buch of fluids in the back of her neck to rehydrate her again. Any parvo survivors out there that know what helps. What the point if she gets treated if the parvo still lingers around the house. Can she reget it or not get better or as soon as she is treated does it block it from happening again for the time being treated. Please....any help appreciated....PLEASE

and how the hell did she get it in the first place!

[diva]

That's why I said symptoms do not sound good. Yes, your older dog can catch parvo. Seperate the two dogs. Bleach the older dogs area before you put him there. Monitor him for 7 to 10 days for symptoms of parvo. If no symptoms occur, then vaccinate him.

Vaccinating your pup will not help right now. Your vet should be treating her for parvo. Most vets keep them and treat them there. Keep her away from your other dog! If she survives, vaccinate her after she gets better.

How did she get it? Well, there is no way to tell. In the future, vaccinate your dogs to help protect them.

I once read something about treating a dog and the area with bleach. Let me see if I can find it....

[SouLJah702]

Bleach the other dogs..............as in put bleach on my boy?

[diva]

Maybe some of the other members will reply. This is all I could find.


"Get you some Tamiflu (your vet will need to write a prescription).

1 cc per 12 lb, every 12 hours, for 5 days in a row.

This plus the usual fluid replacement."



Again, I advise that you treat the yard and anything else you can think of with bleach.

[diva]

Bleach the other dogs..............as in put bleach on my boy?
No, not bleach the dog....bleach his area...his kennel, crate, dog house, etc.

[simms]

Bleach the other dogs..............as in put bleach on my boy? Skimmed through your thread....Best of luck!

[Suki]

http://www.workingdogs.com/parvofaq.htm

VERY sorry to be reading this....:( i HATE this disease.
hopefully you caught it in time... (fingers crossed, BIG time, here!)

[SouLJah702]

Sorry, skipped the dogs area part. Stressed out, skimmed right through. Does anyone know a trick on how to give a dog fluids to keep her hydrated. Im guessing to open her mouth and shoot it in her but if she dont keep it down imma be lost. So far you guys have been a huge help, i sincerely appreciate your guys time. Thank you

[Marty]

Take a needle and put it under the skin just as the vet did, If the dog well drink anything give it peddalite(sp)

[SouLJah702]

Where can i get needles? Pharmacy? Will they give them to me. If so what size and in what increments and how often. So this is what i got so far........my boy has been moved to another house for the time being after i bathed him. My lil one that is infected im bringing her back in the house after i bleached the whole house, i mean the whole house...i can barely breathe. Today the vet gave her some fluids under her skin as one of you were saying and also 2 other injections....im guessing antibiotics. Should i go back tomorow and pick up the anti's that they will give me to take home for 7 days that need to be given to her orally. Take the chance of her not being able to hold anything down and keep her hydrated or should i do as Suki is saying with the tamiflu and keep her hydrated. Sorry to bug guys but im trippin. Thanks againP.S. Has anyone ever had a pup that survived parvo. I love her to death but its obvious she is in intense pain. If i have a chance to break this ill keep on keeping. But if im just prolonging her to stay alive to suffer more just for death to arrive. Id rather not make her go through all that pain. Im going from sad to mad real quick.....im about to flip. DAMN PARVO!!!!!!!!

[Marty]

What did the vet recomend?

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Where can i get needles? Pharmacy?

Any feed store should have them ;)

[chinasmom]

I'm so sorry to hear it's Parvo, but not all is lost yet. Did the vet keep her? I had a poodle one time, yea go ahead and laugh, but she got Parvo and stayed two nights. When I brought her home he said it was up to me now if she made it, so I was very determined that she would. I stayed up all night giving her liquids every hour with a syringe in her mouth. I finally passed out about 5 and didn't wake up till 8. I realized I had made a mistake and went to check on her, fearing the worst, but when I opened the door, she came over and stood on her hind legs, wanting to be picked up. I was sooo happy. She had made it and lived to be 12. I sincerely hope you have a positive experiance as well.

[SouLJah702]

Thanks everyone...........im giving her pedia every hour. Appreciate it.

[14rock]

Parvo is extremely bad these past few weeks, I've heard of numerous dogs coming down with this horrible disease. I would recommend everyone get up to date on their boosters, and get to the vet at any sign of lethargy/dehydration/diahrea. Parvo hits so fast and strongly, many times it will take the dog before an unexperienced owner even realizes what's going on.

[Suki]

it IS bad 14, and not sure why so much, now....

anyhow, here's some info on the fluid administration. it looks harder than it is. that first "stick/poke" is the hardest. after that just be sure you get a nice flow and that the fluid isn't just congregating in that one area, but dispersing~not forming a huge "bubble", hard like form.

http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_subcutaneous_fluids.html

[SouLJah702]

its only been one day of treatment.....she is still crappin blood and puking....almost looks the complete same....would a pup get better lil by lil or are they sick then one day their up.....im trying to make a real hard decision here....evryone is saying dont make her suffer so much.....but if she can hang on she can sh** blood and puke all she wants.....i dont mind giving her pedi every hour......

[Chef-Kergin]

i recently had a bad parvo scare.

called monday to schedule my pups visit for shots, heartworm test, etc on friday morning.; lady on the phone said be careful, parvo is REALLY bad in our area for some reason this year.

wednesday morning, puking, heaving, just kinda standing around on her chain looking "out of it" when i went out to feed her.

we caught it early enough where she got some shots, a bag of fluid under her skin, and we went home. she spent a week crated up except to be let out and eat, drink, etc. she bounced back great! only downside was she got a litte fat around her back nipples from taking it easy all week. that's no thing though, b/c the hardsh winter is coming....

best of luck, i hope she pulls through.

[Suki]

it can take awhile....( a pup getting better, that is)

the key here is to keep the pup hydrated
also watch for low blood sugar and blood loss and signs of any pending infection.

more to read:


low blood sugar (http://www.parvobuster.com/parvo.php#)

[SouLJah702]

so what do i do with my older son....hes about 3 yrs old and is at my gmas house. I just took him over there. Say she survives and i bleach the whole area again. Is it safe for him to come back. Or say she doesnt make it, is it safe for him to come back after i bleach everything?????????

[bulldog426]

i'd say give your older boy an 8in1 before i brought him back just to be on the safe side. you should be able to buy syringes and needles at the local feed store or vet. as well as the 8in1 shot. was your pup up to date on her shots?? an adult dog is supposed to have an 8in1 once a year. come to think of it, i'm bout to be off to the feed store to get some 8in1s for my older dogs, but dang they've closed at 12.

[Suki]

if the area is completely cleaned, you should be good to go.

read ALL the info in the last link i sent you regarding transmission tho, as it's a VERY easy disease to transfer.
also, it is only spread from dog to dog, NOT people to dog. (zoonosis)



http://www.healthatoz.com/healthatoz/Atoz/common/standard/transform.jsp?requestURI=/healthatoz/Atoz/ency/zoonosis.jsp

[miakoda]

First, it's too late about whether or not to worry about your older dog coming down with the virus. He's already been exposed and who knows for how long. The parvovirus can "incubate" in a dog for up to 14 days before symptoms appear. This means that the older dog either already has parvo & just isn't showing any symptoms or he doesn't. Giving him an 8in1 vaccination won't do a darn thing at this point.

Second, if you don't know how to treat the dog, you should have left him at the vet's where they are experienced at the treatment and have fluids, antibiotics (to stem off secondary infection which almost always sets in), and anti-nausea drugs and of course experienced staff on hand.

Yes some dogs do survive with at-home care, but the stats aren't good. Heck, the stats for parvo survival in general aren't great.

As for bleaching your yard and home, you can but it won't do any good for now as long as you have the dog there and he is actively shedding the virus in his stool (which he is at this point). In fact, if he survives, he will continue to shed the virus in his stool for up to 2 additional weeks. My advice is to kennel him and not let him out whatsoever so you can contain the contaminated area. This means load the kennel with newspaper and prepare to clean up mess after mess after mess. And by all means bleach everything outside of that area. Everything that dog came in contact with.

[SouLJah702]

Not spread from people to dog? But i thought i could give it to my older son if i pet my younger one then go and pet the older. Ill read that link you gave me more thoroughly. And trust me Mia, leaving her at the vet right now is my dream. But i called around and prices are rediculous. Dont get me wrong she is worth more then money but when you dont have it you dont have it. My bills arent gonna wait another month because my dog is sick. She has no signs of gettin better, skinnier by the day. Im feeding her mild soup and pedia by the hour. SHe holds it in for awhile then pukes it up. Im in the process to try and find out how to buy a sub cu so i can keep her hydrated. Any one know?

[Suki]

sorry, i always get everything from work, cuz for employees, it's free.

maybe make a phone call to yours and have him/her point you in a direction.
if they're closed, due to it being sat, call a 24 hour care.

and the sub q's will be retained much better than the oral fluids, which she will, undoubtedly continue to keep throwing up.... :(

[SouLJah702]

Thanks for everyones help. She passed on.........

[Michele]

Thanks for everyones help. She passed on.........I"m really sorry about this......

[Marty]

Thanks for everyones help. She passed on.........Man! I'm so sorry :(

[Suki]

:( SOOOOOOOO very sorry.....

RIP baby girl~no more pain....

[scratchin dog]

Damn...sorry to hear. RIP girl.

[miakoda]

I'm sorry to hear that. I was truly hoping she would pull through.

Pay very close attention to your other dog now. Hopefully he has immunity to the virus somehow (either natural or artificial--vaccinated).

[SouLJah702]

ya, i wish i wasnt so dam attached to my dogs/kids.......kinda scares me on ever owning another dog......but it couldnt of been better said.....no more pain for my babygirl......i dont know what hurt more....watching her squirt huge puddles of blood or her starring at me pleading to take the pain away......man.....pray to God my boy doesnt get it.....if so its on....im robbing a bank.....but im staying positive....i know he will return healthy and happy.....But i really need to let all you guys know you are the shit.....you guys calmed my nerves....gave me hope and tons of knowledge....most of all you all understand the loss of a mans best friend...thanks you guys...sincerely....imma have to get more involved with this site....thanks again...

[Chef-Kergin]

sorry for your loss.

i lost a siberian husky to parvo when i was like 12.

it's hard to see them in such pain....

:(

[Suki]

{{{{{{{prayers for your boy}}}}}}}


stay strong!!! http://www.intruderalert.com/cafe/images/emoticons/rock.gif (javascript:addit('rock');) ...

[chinasmom]

Really sorry to read that your girl lost the fight. But she's at peace now, no more suffering. Just pay close attention to your other baby so you can avoid another heartbreak. Keep your head up, you tried.