opinions on this dog..

[NcPrisonGuard]

Just curious everyone's opinion about this dog.


http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=229541

[NcPrisonGuard]

Well..lol.. don't everyone jump at once :)

[BoiBoi]

straight eli with a jeep outcross, looks good to me, plus i've heard good things about bugga bear

[sy82nj]

85% eli 15% cotton's bullet/molly bee nice breeding

[screamin'eagle]

Good looking ped. BTW what did you think of him NCPrisonGuard (ped below)? I'm all about sixbits, and it crosses well back into later Maverick stuff http://www.game-dog.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=70344

[NcPrisonGuard]

I'd love to get my hands on something like that.. but I don't have $500 and a trip down to the bayou. I've heard good things about sixbits stuff.. but nothing detailed at all..like what sorts of traits to look forward to etc etc.. So anyone that can add to that I'd like to learn.



Good looking ped. BTW what did you think of him NCPrisonGuard (ped below)? I'm all about sixbits, and it crosses well back into later Maverick stuff http://www.game-dog.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=70344

[screamin'eagle]

I'd love to get my hands on something like that.. but I don't have $500 and a trip down to the bayou. I've heard good things about sixbits stuff.. but nothing detailed at all..like what sorts of traits to look forward to etc etc.. So anyone that can add to that I'd like to learn.I know what you mean about that stud. Poke around here for a while in regards to folks with info on sixbits blood...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/534255/

http://members5.boardhost.com/masterblen/msg/1148750226.html

http://ncsixbitsmaver.proboards99.com/index.cgi?board=general

[JC-Pitbulls]

Good looking ped. BTW what did you think of him NCPrisonGuard (ped below)? I'm all about sixbits, and it crosses well back into later Maverick stuff http://www.game-dog.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=70344

He is producing some pretty good dogs, I had one good one off him, and the other 3 are too young to tell, but they have got some spunk.

[440rider]

why not get a dog directly off beanie buddy or out of bama girl. Bama girl has some on the ground now off a son of sixbits that are some fine looking pups. Nothing wrong with that breeding just not a fan of that out on the bottom.

[game_test]

i personally dont like it. dont like the out and there isnt a single proven hunting dog in that ped at all. talk about taking a shot in the dark.


i know someone with semen from a ch off this dog

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=6666


the proven blood is out there just gotta know where to find it.

[preme]

got a female out of latham's"mean joe" breed to wagoner's" black sue" and i love her..

[rayne_terror03]

just wanted to say i can see why yall banned the boy that said the dog was 85% eli!LOL:D im just not understanding why people call the blood just eli when its really eli x spook. Bullyson, Eli Jr. and Brendy were bred way more than there noteworthy father but he gets all the credit, what about the bitch that carried them little son guns for 9wks!! LOL! but the ped does look really good and the sixbits stuff seems to be doing well and believe it or not he is 53.5% Dibo. i been doing a little research here lately!

[mac 11]

but the ped does look really good and the sixbits stuff seems to be doing well and believe it or not he is 53.5% Dibo. i been doing a little research here lately!

Ok, this is going to far. this whole Dibo stuff that damn dog has been dead for I don't know how long and for you to say a dog is 53.5% Dibo is just crazy. Thats like saying you have 53.5% of your grandfater X14 in you. I know I'm about to pull what you said from another post but damn bro. The only reason Dibo should be up for discussion is to say he produced good dogs that produced goods that in the end made names for themselves. The more breedings that took place after a son or daughter of dibo was born the less amount of blood they have in them.

[mac 11]

And on top of that Dibo was only in Eli's ped 3x in the first 4. I the ped is correct.

[rayne_terror03]

if you were inbred off your grandfather it is possible do your research!! Blind Billy was 87.5% Dibo correct! Correct! now you look at how many time Blind Billy appears in the pedigree of Six Bits!! :mad: you all are limiting your selves when looking at just four gens take all the dogs in the fourth generation caculte their percentage and then trickle down to the dog you are researching. after every dog has a ped be it 4 or 16 gen thats the beauty of breeding and the ped-online site put this here for us to research. if your gonna be on a cpu actually do some work! im just commeneding these dogmen on there breeding, what people are not paying attention to today besides to peddle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad::D

[rayne_terror03]

oh and i did not pull this from another post this is what you call research mac11. thats why they call it inbreeding and linebreeding duhr. once a dogs contains an amount of blood the only way it will dissapate is if you keep outcrossing it untill it is gone and even the you get into tenths of a pecentage do your homework. or should i say extra credit!!

[mac 11]

oh and i did not pull this from another post this is what you call research mac11. thats why they call it inbreeding and linebreeding duhr. once a dogs contains an amount of blood the only way it will dissapate is if you keep outcrossing it untill it is gone and even the you get into tenths of a pecentage do your homework. or should i say extra credit!!
First off of course blind billy would have that % of Dibo that was his Sire. Secondly, how far do you go back to see blind billy in six bits ped? What I'm saying is those dogs (since they are so far back) have little influence in what the dog in ? has to offer. its like when peolple say oh I have this pure ELI dog they take the name in front of the dog and assoicate that with Eli himself. There is no way in the world someone has a pure ELI, Redboy, Sixbits dog because those dogs are dead. the only way to have a pure anything is if thats the dog themself. For example Midnight cowboy produced Reddicks Herman,he produced Maverick produced Skull. Now is SKull a midnight cowboy dog or is he a maverick dog? Thats why IMO ROM and POR was enstated because a dog that produces a good dog should get the credit not his 6x great grand sire on his dam's side.

[rayne_terror03]

O.K.:rolleyes: what i stated was the percentage of a dog in anothers pedigree. and no matter how far back these dogs are if they were never bred then we would not talk about said dog in question right!? and not once did i say anything about something being pure, nothing in this world is pure. the only point im tryna to make is that every breeding is for a reason take for instance the breedings that Mr. Chavis made alot of them dogs that appear in our peds to day Yellow for instance have almost the same % of redboy and jocko in them. same for a lot of the Burns dogs, these men knew what they were doing while breeding therefore producing good dogs. its a breeding tool and if you dont know how to breed where are you gonna get your good dogs from. there aint exactly everyone out here selling bulldogs these days.

[rayne_terror03]

For example Midnight cowboy produced Reddicks Herman,he produced Maverick produced Skull. Now is SKull a midnight cowboy dog or is he a maverick dog? Thats why IMO ROM and POR was enstated because a dog that produces a good dog should get the credit not his 6x great grand sire on his dam's side.

forgot to answer your question. by your standards Skull would be a Skull dog. no thanks to his sire, grandsire, and great grandsire being bulldogs, and not being culled:rolleyes:

[cutt]

forgot to answer your question. by your standards Skull would be a Skull dog. no thanks to his sire, grandsire, and great grandsire being bulldogs, and not being culled:rolleyes:


its prolly best if you wouldve forgotten , with an answer like that.

[rayne_terror03]

:d...............

[HBK]

I think you guys were talking past one another, sorta.
Lets look at this pedigree

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=4088

then lets look at the statistics

<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=right>BOUDREAUX' BLIND BILLY (1XW)(1XL) (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=4091)93.75%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=375 bgColor=blue height=20></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>BOUDREAUX' LENA (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=4090)50%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=200 bgColor=red height=20></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>CH TUDOR'S MINNIE (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=165)43.75%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=175 bgColor=green height=20></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>HEINZL'S BAMBI (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=50)43.75%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=175 bgColor=orange height=20></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>TUDOR'S DIBO (3XW) (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=9)43.75%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=175 bgColor=maroon height=20></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>BOUDREAUX' RED (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=4124)25%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=100 bgColor=cyan height=20></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>HUBBARD'S BOUNCE (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=49)25%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=100 bgColor=#006666 height=20></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>CH HEINZL'S ARIZONA PETE (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=919)18.75%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=75 bgColor=midnightblue height=20></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>RITCHESON'S SPOTTY (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=176)12.5%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=50 bgColor=blue height=20></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>RITCHESON'S SPIKE (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=175)12.5%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=50 bgColor=red height=20></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>BOUDREAUX' GYPSY (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=4097)12.5%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=50 bgColor=green height=20></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>BOUDREAUX' PAULA (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=4117)6.25%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=25 bgColor=orange height=20></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>HUBBARD'S GIMP (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=173)6.25%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=25 bgColor=maroon height=20></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>HUBBARD'S LENA (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=174)6.25%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=25 bgColor=cyan height=20></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

You see Scrub was over 90% Blind Billy!!!! Inbred out the wazoo and probably as pure a Blind Billy dog can get unless it was possible to breed Blind Billy to himself :-)

[HBK]

Then lets look at Eli who wasnt off of Blind Billy
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=34

his stats

<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD align=right>BOUDREAUX' BLIND BILLY (1XW)(1XL) (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=4091&myPedigrees=1)68.75%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=275 bgColor=blue height=20> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>BOUDREAUX' SCRUB (1XL) (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=4088&myPedigrees=1)50%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=200 bgColor=red height=20> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>BOUDREAUX' CANDY (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=38&myPedigrees=1)50%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=200 bgColor=green height=20> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>CH TUDOR'S MINNIE (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=165&myPedigrees=1)31.25%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=125 bgColor=orange height=20> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>TUDOR'S DIBO (3XW) (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=9&myPedigrees=1)31.25%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=125 bgColor=maroon height=20> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>HEINZL'S BAMBI (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=50&myPedigrees=1)25%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=100 bgColor=cyan height=20> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>SHERRER'S TAMMY (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=160&myPedigrees=1)25%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=100 bgColor=#006666 height=20> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>BOUDREAUX' LENA (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=4090&myPedigrees=1)25%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=100 bgColor=midnightblue height=20> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>HUBBARD'S BOUNCE (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=49&myPedigrees=1)12.5%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=50 bgColor=blue height=20> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>CH HEINZL'S ARIZONA PETE (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=919&myPedigrees=1)12.5%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=50 bgColor=red height=20> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>HARRELL'S PO BOY (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=167&myPedigrees=1)12.5%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=50 bgColor=green height=20> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>HARRELL'S KILLARNEY KATE (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=168&myPedigrees=1)12.5%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=50 bgColor=orange height=20> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>BOUDREAUX' RED (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=4124&myPedigrees=1)12.5%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=50 bgColor=maroon height=20> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>CANNON'S BLACK SHINE (2XW) (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=163&myPedigrees=1)6.25%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=25 bgColor=cyan height=20> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>TOWDRY'S LINDA (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=992&myPedigrees=1)6.25%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=25 bgColor=#006666 height=20> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>GR CH HANSON'S RED MAN (14XW) (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=917&myPedigrees=1)6.25%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=25 bgColor=midnightblue height=20> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>BOUDREAUX' GYPSY (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=4097&myPedigrees=1)6.25%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=25 bgColor=blue height=20> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>BARKER'S ROXANA (http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=780&myPedigrees=1)6.25%</TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=1 bgColor=#000000><TBODY><TR><TD width=25 bgColor=red height=20> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
He is over 60% Blind Billy and wasn't even off of him. See how inbreeding works ? So the further you get from a said dog yes the % of him drops but it is able to maintain high %'s with in breeding and line breeding.

[websterz28]

on paper genetic percentages remain, but do you think that just because a dog is 50% or more of a dog thats the same as being out of that dog...nope, just because they may be carring a certain dogs genotype does not mean they are going to perform like said dog...whats up close is important....bulldogs come from bulldogs... not the untested desendant of a bulldog ten generations out...

and to the ped poster...i dont care for it...not my flavor and havent been much for performers or producers for several gens...i dont know of the bulldogs so they may be good ped just isnt that impressive...

[Boze]

i love how people think that just because their is not a ch or 1xw, 2xw next to the name it means that they are not performers how the heck do you no what the dog has done do you own it. titles do not mean shit. some of the best producers were not even matched, plus as stated many times people put all kinds of shit on pds onlineand it is usually bull shit you wanna know about said dog talk to the owners and go see the dog for yourself

[TheVictor22]

This is a good thead. Wish i had some of these dogs.

[rayne_terror03]

thank you Boze and HBK. Boze for the statement that just because a dog doesnt have a number beside, doesnt mean it isnt a bulldog. and HBK for the % information. its a common misconception by greenhorns that if a dog doesnt have a number it was never done. well im Redboy fan and you'll see that a lot of those dogs dont have numbers but i have talked to various breeders of the Redboy line and they assured me that the dog would have never made it to the breeding stand if it wasnt supposed!:) and its proven itself now!

[crimsonghost]

its only paper who gives a shit all that matters is if you like the damn dog
i think i figured out why my girl likes this board so much with all the (bikkering) spelling its like a girls night out with all the bikkering and gossiping and all the stupid questions

[woody d]

its only paper who gives a shit all that matters is if you like the damn dog
i think i figured out why my girl likes this board so much with all the (bikkering) spelling its like a girls night out with all the bikkering and gossiping and all the stupid questions
then WTF are ya doing here?? is all the dog talk too much, or do numbers confuse you? i personally like this sh!t so maybe you should let your girl back on.

[RIP PeeWee]

i agree with game test, nothing proven in generations, at least nothing noted in thier peds, unless someone could tell me something good about some of those dogs im not impressed, and there may be something to tell, idk, just not impressed with the ped, true not every good dog has come directly off Champions but getting a good dog out of a breeding is such a crap shoot as it is, why would anyone play against the odds and breed unproven dog after unproven dog hoping to get something good?

[crimsonghost]

woody your personally attacking me and its hurting my feelings lol

[woody d]

my point is this...if ya dont like it, fine, but i dont wanna read your b.s trash talking. if its too much, give the keypad to your woman. btw, i aint trying to hurt nobodys feelings...lol.....:D

[woody d]

anyway, back to the op...the ped looks good to me, and yes paper doesnt make a bulldog, so if its worthy of kibble, keep feeding:)

[RIP PeeWee]

i 100% agree, papers dont make a bulldog, what does make a bulldog? like Eli/Honeybunch/Nigerino/MayDay/Chinaman/Llantas/Jeep etc? it's what they accomplished! a "good" bulldog is one who has proven him/herself, unfortunately i dont see that anything was accomplished in the first 4 generations of this pedigree :( and again all i see is unproven dog bred to unproven dog, not trying to put down ANYBODY'S dogs, that's not my style, but we were asked for our opinions and although i respect everyones i just wonder what some people were breeding for when i look at some of these pedigrees?

[mac 11]

i 100% agree, papers dont make a bulldog, what does make a bulldog? like Eli/Honeybunch/Nigerino/MayDay/Chinaman/Llantas/Jeep etc? it's what they accomplished! a "good" bulldog is one who has proven him/herself, unfortunately i dont see that anything was accomplished in the first 4 generations of this pedigree :( and again all i see is unproven dog bred to unproven dog, not trying to put down ANYBODY'S dogs, that's not my style, but we were asked for our opinions and although i respect everyones i just wonder what some people were breeding for when i look at some of these pedigrees?
Just because its not available to the masses doesn't mean nothing was accomplished. If your dumb enough to put your biz on front street like that then by all means go ahead. But don't believe everything you read or don't read.


Mac

[Marty]

Exactly mac 11 you hit the nail on the head with that post :D

To many people wishing to get on the witch hunt it seems like :rolleyes:

[RIP PeeWee]

i am aware of that, some of the ancestors in my own dogs pedigrees dont have their "accomplishments" noted, but i have either been told by credible sources what they are or have been there to see for myself, that's why i said in my previous post "unless someone could tell me something good about some of those dogs im not impressed" he asked what our opinions are of the pedigree and i gave it, that's not to say none of those dogs are good dogs, but the pedigree itself is not impressive

[Big Game]

i personally dont like it. dont like the out and there isnt a single proven hunting dog in that ped at all. talk about taking a shot in the dark.


i know someone with semen from a ch off this dog

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=6666


the proven blood is out there just gotta know where to find it.


Have you lost youre got damn mind??? You dont belive this crap ^^^^^^ Do You ???????

[Big Game]

i love how people think that just because their is not a ch or 1xw, 2xw next to the name it means that they are not performers how the heck do you no what the dog has done do you own it. titles do not mean shit. some of the best producers were not even matched, plus as stated many times people put all kinds of shit on pds onlineand it is usually bull shit you wanna know about said dog talk to the owners and go see the dog for yourself


^^^^ the truth people^^^ Right there

[Big Game]

i personally dont like it. dont like the out and there isnt a single proven hunting dog in that ped at all. talk about taking a shot in the dark.


i know someone with semen from a ch off this dog

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=6666


the proven blood is out there just gotta know where to find it.



ALSO....Eli Shadown him damn self is in what? the third gen of that pedigree?????

[mac 11]

Have you lost youre got damn mind??? You dont belive this crap ^^^^^^ Do You ???????
I do, I have semen from a son of that dog. ADBA reg. and all.

[Big Game]

I do, I have semen from a son of that dog. ADBA reg. and all.

I dont doubt you have seman from that dog, But to say there is not any provin dogs in that pedigree is flat out Ludicris. If you think Clemmons,Ellliot, Mcmillin etc are breeding anygthing but true to the bone bulldogs U have lost youre got damn Mind. Who are you to say anything negative about the above Names.These men have forgoten a hell of alot more than You,Me and most others will ever learn. Youre so high on a proven son of Eli Shadow and say there are no proven dogs in that pedigree when Eli Shadow Him damn self is in the pedigree. That in its self is a contradiction. Eli,Boze,Nigger Toby Blood is as good as any.

[mac 11]

I dont doubt you have seman from that dog, But to say there is not any provin dogs in that pedigree is flat out Ludicris. If you think Clemmons,Ellliot, Mcmillin etc are breeding anygthing but true to the bone bulldogs U have lost youre got damn Mind. Who are you to say anything negative about the above Names.These men have forgoten a hell of alot more than You,Me and most others will ever learn. Youre so high on a proven son of Eli Shadow and say there are no proven dogs in that pedigree when Eli Shadow Him damn self is in the pedigree. That in its self is a contradiction. Eli,Boze,Nigger Toby Blood is as good as any.
Hold up Game, I know you not directing that at me but, it looks like that. Whom ever else said then fine but none of those were my words you were repeating. Just wanted to make sure we were on the same page.

Mac

[Boze]

i 100% agree, papers dont make a bulldog, what does make a bulldog? like Eli/Honeybunch/Nigerino/MayDay/Chinaman/Llantas/Jeep etc? it's what they accomplished! a "good" bulldog is one who has proven him/herself, unfortunately i dont see that anything was accomplished in the first 4 generations of this pedigree :( and again all i see is unproven dog bred to unproven dog, not trying to put down ANYBODY'S dogs, that's not my style, but we were asked for our opinions and although i respect everyones i just wonder what some people were breeding for when i look at some of these pedigrees?


as i said earlier in this thread how in the heck do you know that they are unproven YOU ARE NOT ON THE YARD, DO NOT KNOW THE BREEDERS, AND DO NOT WHAT THEY DO WITH THEIR DOGS, they could be champions just not registered, most dogmen do not want that crap all over the internet where the damn feds are always lurking

[bohawg00]

Sounds like some people here only like pedigrees with all the pretty colors. Of course for some that's as close as they will ever get to a Game Dog! It would be stupid to post wins and times on peds right now on any dog still alive or off an active yard. If it's all the pretty colors that get "impress" you put up a christmas tree. I wish I had peds on line I'd show you how to make an RE dog's ped look Impressive.

[CLKENNELS]

I think he wanted to know if people have heard of any of the dogs in that ped. If you look at the birthdate you would know y the owner doesn't have accomplishments after the other dogs. Some people don't want a lot of attention on their yard its called smart. If you know the dogs in that ped you say good or bad .if you don't know the dogs you say I don't know.

[Big Game]

Sorry mac that was directed at gametest.

[mac 11]

Sorry mac that was directed at gametest.
No prob. Thanks for being an adult about the matter.

[preme]

This is a good thead. Wish i had some of these dogs.\


you do now!!!

[preme]

there is some dumb ass peple on this thread
to the ones spitting good info
peace

preme
good dogs are where you find them

[Big Game]

.................................................. .......

[preme]

got a female out of latham's"mean joe" breed to wagoner's" black sue" and i love her..



here.s my lil bitch from the un known.........lol
LEAVY'S MISS PITTSBURGH (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=328951)

[preme]

Just because its not available to the masses doesn't mean nothing was accomplished. If your dumb enough to put your biz on front street like that then by all means go ahead. But don't believe everything you read or don't read.


Mac


right there mac

[TheVictor22]

\


you do now!!!


lol Fo sho. Good look, ... Hope the future moves wit Miss Pitt work out so we can tighten this thing up....Shit you will really have a good thing goin then.

Vic

[FrankDublin]

man this shit is crazy I have something to say

sixbits is the shit brought them maverick dogs back to the light

any dog over 50% of their grandparent is just like being out of its grand parent
shit its made up of more of it gp genes than its own daddy

sixbits is not an eli dog hes a boze dog
maverick came down from the eli blood

eli and boze were half bros
I would rather have a boze dog instead of the eli blood like em both though
but the boze blood wasnt let out to the public as much as eli blood that should tell you something

[slim12]

the top side is from a proven cross of eli strains from families that have produced bulldogs. the bottom side, the very botom are dogs that I knew as a very young man, Big Sams Black pat produced the very gamest of the molly bee dogs. as you go back in her ped the dogs like red baron, miss spazz, sid, holly, chocolate were 100% bulldogs, without any doubts left. As a young man I heard , "hey T., why don't you get red baron up"...and regardless that dog would go, and go hard as if he were beating the world. Miss spazz was a pit game dog. Sid was a hard mouth freak of a dog that won a couple. Chocolate was not as talented but had good mouth and was stupid game. These dogs were owned and bred by a guy called Hard D. He had ten to twelve match dogs that were open to the world all the time. Hes culled hard and was the top conditioner I have even known....his ability to read a dog in the keep was damn near scary.
as the dogs moved past the sting dog they were being bred off what happened ten years prior. that line has faded and it has not produced dogs of value for years now. The johnsons galil dog is a bulldog also. I should have bred to him a few years ago when i had the chance. He is really nice.
The ped above is chocked full of nice dogs, but from families where hard culling is a must, especially from the very bottom. s.

[mac 11]

man this shit is crazy I have something to say

sixbits is the shit brought them maverick dogs back to the light

any dog over 50% of their grandparent is just like being out of its grand parent
shit its made up of more of it gp genes than its own daddy

sixbits is not an eli dog hes a boze dog
maverick came down from the eli blood

eli and boze were half bros
I would rather have a boze dog instead of the eli blood like em both though
but the boze blood wasnt let out to the public as much as eli blood that should tell you something

I totally disagree with that sixbits bringing maverick dogs back. That cross works damn good but, maverick dogs have there own line for a reason.

[FrankDublin]

I totally disagree with that sixbits bringing maverick dogs back. That cross works damn good but, maverick dogs have there own line for a reason.
well I agree to disagree with you then

[mntman2003]

everyone I know with Skull stuff swears by it and everyone with six bits swears by it. I am getting a Skull dog soon never had one excited but no comment on either just hear say. I know I can get a sixbit dog cheaper? maybe less hype then the others?

[preme]

wat up mac

[FrankDublin]

everyone I know with Skull stuff swears by it and everyone with six bits swears by it. I am getting a Skull dog soon never had one excited but no comment on either just hear say. I know I can get a sixbit dog cheaper? maybe less hype then the others?
yeah there is not as much hype about the sixbits blood and its hard to find with out the maverick stuff crossed in but its some good stuff mouth and game best hogdogs ive seen or close to the best

[preme]

great finish :cool:abilty

[preme]

got to be patient sometimes with boze/eli strain alot of late bloomers,

[GAS HOUSE KENNELS]

SIX BITS blood is the shit when crossed into this here

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=266299

:cool:____GHK

[preme]

your not lieing got some good things from that cross very intense creatures.............

[preme]

boyles/sixbits not that paticular breeding

[preme]

SIX BITS blood is the shit when crossed into this here

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=266299

:cool:____GHK

boy you know wat to do wit it..

[FrankDublin]

thats a good cross right there gas house should be hot hot hot
smart and intence

[GAS HOUSE KENNELS]

boy you know wat to do wit it..This will be a repeat first breeding produced 1 Ch, 1 2xw and 2 1xw yeah all in South America so it works guys and will work again !!! I say to anyone that has the Six Bits blood tyte and this is a quote from THEE GAS HOUSE KENNELS: SIX BITS IS HERE TO STAY : end quote lol :D

[preme]

got some good looking prospect out of that stuff time will tell..
preme

[kdue]

well ghk. when they drop from that repeat, send ONE my WAY!!!!:D

[preme]

me too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

[FrankDublin]

I shure got a spot for one

[GAS HOUSE KENNELS]

Man hell all those nice ass animals you have just send ur bitches and you will have whole litters :D

[slim12]

check out countrysidekennels.com
i sold him the skull dog (macho) he is putting back to his sixbits stuff...the macho male produced a few good ones for me when bred to redboy stuff....he is a straight up guy...s


everyone I know with Skull stuff swears by it and everyone with six bits swears by it. I am getting a Skull dog soon never had one excited but no comment on either just hear say. I know I can get a sixbit dog cheaper? maybe less hype then the others?

[TheVictor22]

Man hell all those nice ass animals you have just send ur bitches and you will have whole litters :D

shit if i had a bithch that was ready we would be on the way... I like what you did with that.


Vic