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LA_Headhunters
04-25-2004, 12:02 PM
What is everyone's opinion on using weight while running a keep?? Good, Bad?? Yes, No??




MMK
04-25-2004, 02:14 PM
i will have a dog drag about 30ft of 3/8 chain out in the country while i walk him. but only in the prekeep once i hit the 8 week mark i would not worry about the wieght. keeps are like assholes everyone got one
MMK

KURUPT
04-25-2004, 03:48 PM
Good, Yes....We sometimes use a weight sled...

J M A N
04-25-2004, 04:59 PM
I like the weight sleds and use them all the time. It will help build strength but if you want strength and a long winded dog.....try swimming him/her 2-3 times a week.

KURUPT
04-25-2004, 06:01 PM
We do that also......YIS

J M A N
04-25-2004, 07:00 PM
Swimming your dog will create muscle mass on your dog you never new existed!

By swimming your dog to near exhaustion you have worked damn near every muscle in their body. They will even have trouble walking or even moving if you are pushing them hard enough.

Of course swimming is not an option in the winter and that is when the sled is really great!

KURUPT
04-26-2004, 12:08 AM
I agree swimming will work parts of the dog the dog didn't even new it had..lol

CAMBOWILLY
05-01-2004, 10:37 AM
Well Weigths Could Good If You Know What You Are Doing , But Never Work A Dog Near To Exhaustion , Your Dog Needs To Finish The Day Strong And With A Lot Of Energy

PADogman
05-09-2004, 03:51 PM
I have a ? i'm new to this what exactly is a Keep

no1special
05-09-2004, 05:05 PM
I have a 6 foot drag chain that I add weights to or take weights off of depending on the day. The weights I use are 4 to 8 pound window weights. I only work my dog with the drag chain and weights for about 15 to 20 minutes a day and I never do it in the heat of the day. The drag chain is attached to a weight pull harness that the dog is wearing at the time :)

Bravo
05-11-2004, 04:16 PM
Never,
Run,Swim,or weight pull your dog to exhaustion.
You dont want to leave his best days in the gym.

And muscle mass is absolutely no use to you in the box.

I also use drag chains also and find they increase the dogs strenght for the start of the show when he needs the be getting his holds.
Bravo

Icarus
05-11-2004, 09:06 PM
Like MMK says, Keeps are like assholes...everybodys got one.

kvopitbull
05-12-2004, 04:21 PM
swimming is good i plan on having a 100 gallon tank in my workout facility and it will be used winter, summer, fall, and spring for ill have it climate controlled

Onac
06-16-2004, 08:10 AM
Swimming your dog will create muscle mass on your dog you never new existed!

By swimming your dog to near exhaustion you have worked damn near every muscle in their body. They will even have trouble walking or even moving if you are pushing them hard enough.

Of course swimming is not an option in the winter and that is when the sled is really great!
not to teach one that looks to have taught, but many the layman, can not stop a work out for an animal at near exhaustion.
if one can see, the dog is near exhaustion, how does one say he is near or already at exhaustion.
i am merely making a point, to work a dog any where near exhaustion is dangerous and some times detrimental. it can and sometimes leads to kidney failure, twisted gut, or early heart attack. sometimes it can hit a dog after the work out. overexertion is a very dangerous thing. rapid breathing, just when a dog is tired and trying to catch his air right, wrong increased or long periods of rapid breathing could involve many preexisting conditions or new internal injury, for example: not enough oxygen in the blood, undiagnosed kidney or liver disease, breathing problems making it hard for the dog to cool him/herslf back to normal breathing and circulation, even poor blood circulation can bring an animal down quick with extense work outs.
not all dogs are equal, and to put a post up like this is dangerous to the beginner, or anyone that may read it with out the following information.
any keep for that matter, should involve the following:
1 vet check to include a blood count
2 a diet in mind with increased levels of nutrition that is needed for the work at hand.
3 a pre-keep to set the pace and ready the animal for more intense conditioning.
4 guidance from experienced conditioner.

there are tools of the conditioning trade that one must acquire aswell. but my advise to you is follow the point number four. get help from an experienced dog man.

i hope i have helped a bulldog some where with this information.
any questions please feel free to pm me. or email.
yis

Crash97
06-16-2004, 08:22 AM
Just wanted to add don't work the enthusiasm out of the dog either. Leave it wanting more.Well Weigths Could Good If You Know What You Are Doing , But Never Work A Dog Near To Exhaustion , Your Dog Needs To Finish The Day Strong And With A Lot Of Energy

J M A N
06-17-2004, 09:40 AM
Good point Onac..........i agree fully with the layman seeking #4.

As far as the muscle mass.....what I am trying to point out is that you will see muscles developed that you didn't even know the dog had. On top of that...it is a lean muscle mass.not to teach one that looks to have taught, but many the layman, can not stop a work out for an animal at near exhaustion.
if one can see, the dog is near exhaustion, how does one say he is near or already at exhaustion.
i am merely making a point, to work a dog any where near exhaustion is dangerous and some times detrimental. it can and sometimes leads to kidney failure, twisted gut, or early heart attack. sometimes it can hit a dog after the work out. overexertion is a very dangerous thing. rapid breathing, just when a dog is tired and trying to catch his air right, wrong increased or long periods of rapid breathing could involve many preexisting conditions or new internal injury, for example: not enough oxygen in the blood, undiagnosed kidney or liver disease, breathing problems making it hard for the dog to cool him/herslf back to normal breathing and circulation, even poor blood circulation can bring an animal down quick with extense work outs.
not all dogs are equal, and to put a post up like this is dangerous to the beginner, or anyone that may read it with out the following information.
any keep for that matter, should involve the following:
1 vet check to include a blood count
2 a diet in mind with increased levels of nutrition that is needed for the work at hand.
3 a pre-keep to set the pace and ready the animal for more intense conditioning.
4 guidance from experienced conditioner.

there are tools of the conditioning trade that one must acquire aswell. but my advise to you is follow the point number four. get help from an experienced dog man.

i hope i have helped a bulldog some where with this information.
any questions please feel free to pm me. or email.
yis

nc_pitbulls
09-01-2004, 02:21 AM
once the dogs tounge has curled then he or she's been over worked just thought i would put my little 2 cents in 1 :D

blackbeard
09-01-2004, 09:08 PM
Definately not.What is everyone's opinion on using weight while running a keep?? Good, Bad?? Yes, No??