Is this Possible

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-NICO-
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=227862
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/taca8/nickubota.jpg
-ARRIGO-
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=227864
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/taca8/ARRIGOWALK.jpg
to cross with this
-JASMINE- http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=221096
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/taca8/Jasmine2-1.jpg
or to this bitch
-BARBY-
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=213027 http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/taca8/barby2.jpg

Which is Which that will compliment to their lines or should i acquire a new bloodline thank you so much more power to pitbull community!:)

[strike]

the girls are in heat already:)
(http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=227862)

[strike]

pls make comment on this.thank you so much for your time!:)

[The Watcher]

if you dont know ... how could we?

surely you cannot breed based on ped alone. right?


pls make comment on this.thank you so much for your time!:)BETTER YET, LET ME GO AHEAD AND TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SAY NO! ITS NOT POSSIBLE. IF YOU DONT KNOW THE LINES YOU HAVE AND THE QUALITY OF THEM DONT BREED. looks as if you bred the first female from the second. which means you must be "cinco." so ask "Mike" or better yet "ARCE." or do you own Barby now to? if you havent seen possitve and negative traits and know what to do with them I suggest you wait until you are familiar with your animals.

[Iverson's Pits]

I suggest you wait until you are familiar with your animals.
Naw man, its time to buy groceries and rims....dont have the time for all that.

[FearlessKnight]

-NICO-
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=227862
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/taca8/nickubota.jpg
-ARRIGO-
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=227864
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/taca8/ARRIGOWALK.jpg
to cross with this
-JASMINE- http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=221096
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/taca8/Jasmine2-1.jpg
or to this bitch
-BARBY-
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=213027 http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/taca8/barby2.jpg

Which is Which that will compliment to their lines or should i acquire a new bloodline thank you so much more power to pitbull community!:)

More power to Pitbull Community is
1.being able to teach someone
2. They actually listen and take it into consideration
3. They stick around and learn even more
4. They also learn enough to teach others right from wrong
Now with that being said.....
If you dont know what you are b reeding or why, then you should not be breeding...I didnt even look at the peds..dont have too...they might look noce, but that doesnt always matter....it is only matters if the DOGS are worth having bred them......the peds could be a lie...the peds dont tell you they (could) are curs....the peds dont tell you if they have certain faults....THE DOG MAKES THE PED..the ped is simply reassurance of the dog's background, and that is only the case if the breeder is reputable....

So are they good together...In my opinion, I would have to say NO, why? Because I dont know the dogs..and you dont (seem) to know why you want to breed...being you dont know which to choose from....

To sum it up...please dont breed these dogs any of them....until you have a better idea of why you should breed and what you should breed!
I am not trying be a smartass, nor and I bashing you, I am hoping however that you will follow your own words and provide "MORE POWER TO PITBULL COMMUNITY"

[Iverson's Pits]

Those are actually some good pedigrees....too bad it seems they're in the wrong hands. Listen to the advice just given. Please.

[EDOGZ818]

Naw man, its time to buy groceries and rims....dont have the time for all that.
LOL. That was on time. "TRUE 'DAT" rep points 4 u

[dued]

Naw man, its time to buy groceries and rims....dont have the time for all that.
I thought you were serious. This statement is so true for so many people it is sad. Good stuff none the less.

[EDOGZ818]

Truthfully speaking, that ARCE's Kabota is bred perfect. I would breed that to every bitch on my yard. The Nico / Barby would be the way to go IMO. Hell I bet you could breed Kabuto to a fence post and get game splinters. (LOL) Nice peds. There is a right way and a wrong way to breed. (NOT SPEAKING SEXUALLY). Since its hard and illegal to do it right, the only options is wrong (legal) or right (ILLEGAL). I don't see any shame in either way you go. There are people doing a lot worse. I would take a Nico / Barby pup in a heartbeat. What is causing negative feedback, is your reasoning or lack thereof. ( I won't even guess) Only way to know for sure is to do it and see. The problem is seeing. If you haven't, you won't. (Read between the lines, if you are not illeterate.)

P.S. Arce looks to be reputable.

[olered]

maybe he's just asking for advice on which male he should breed with which bitch?? maybe he figures he could get more than just one opinion?? hell i can't read the guy's mind but maybe that's what he's thinkin.

[realonebulldog]

I would use Arrigo for both bitches. Why? Cant say, just a feeling. I dont saw the dogs work, dont even smelt a farz from them so how can I or every other say something. But just based on look allone, compared with a heart for Bulldogs I would say use Arrigo. You own this dogs really?

[strike]

I would use Arrigo for both bitches. Why? Cant say, just a feeling. I dont saw the dogs work, dont even smelt a farz from them so how can I or every other say something. But just based on look allone, compared with a heart for Bulldogs I would say use Arrigo. You own this dogs really?
thanks for such a nice words i own these dogs:)

[strike]

yes im the owner of these dogs!im asking for your opinion (constructively) guys.and to have a knowledge with you wise a**! coz some of you there in usa are making money of your dogs!this dogs are my hobbies and they are not for sale!so to those replying with harsh words go to mindanao and see whats in store for you!im outta here peddlers!see u sucka!:rolleyes: and i dont care if you ban me here there's a lot of site out there.

Here's Another 2 of my collection
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/taca8/Coy2.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/taca8/Rajib.jpg

[Iverson's Pits]

I have nothing against chain set ups....I use them myself....but I feel SORRY for the dogs having to lug around that GYNORMOUS flippin' chain! If that's how ya do it in Manilla, I'll keep my butt right here in the good ole US of A.

[NCPatchwork]

are they chained inside the house???

[EDOGZ818]

Daayahamm!! Those are some big a$$ chains. LOL. I hope its only a keep chain for the dog. 5/16 works for me. A longer chain is more wieght, the difference is the wieght isn't constantly on the dogs neck, and is only felt when the dog "HITS THE CHAIN", (IE: Full extension or lunge) Wieghts on the back or base of the chain serve the same purpose as working out, but at the dogs discretion. (WHEN HE LUNGES). Constant wieght does more harm than good.

[strike]

are they chained inside the house???nope they have their own cages/thats a pictorial purpose.should will shoot some pictures of your dog inside their cages?

[NCPatchwork]

No I thought it was odd there was a chain in the house..I do understand it being used for picture purpose...

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The Sire Of SIMON
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/taca8/austin.jpg

example heres my show dog
-SIMON-
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/taca8/Woof.jpg

[pitX]

Hell yeah!!! Jovice Arce IS VERY MUCH REPUTABLE!!!!
I got a dog from one of His lines - a grandson of hardrock 1xw..... and he is VERY GAME!!!!!!


and strike, "wag mo na patulan mga ungas na to.... hehehe, iba kasi sa kanila, illegal ung mga chains sa leeg, cruelty to animals sa kanila yun.....sa PTO ka nalang......."

:)

[EDOGZ818]

Yes, I could tell ARCE seemed reputable by the breeding choices he made. I got the jist of what was said in a diffrent language:

"wag mo na patulan mga ungas na to.... hehehe, iba kasi sa kanila, illegal ung mga chains sa leeg, cruelty to animals sa kanila yun.....sa PTO ka nalang......."

I took that to mean " Paqiou 8 > Barrera." heh, heh
Seriously, I am into learning foriegn languages, so , I'd appreciate a translation, if appropiate.

[FearlessKnight]

nope they have their own cages/thats a pictorial purpose.should will shoot some pictures of your dog inside their cages? I guess it looks cool huh? We are not peddlers, and you came here asking for advice on what to breed....then you get pissed at the responses....nobody dissed you or bashed you, and I thought you were leaving, you are still posting...you know, being we are all peddlers and stuff, I mean I undestand you not wanting to be here! :D We dont breed the kind of dogs you do! :D

[pitX]

Yes, I could tell ARCE seemed reputable by the breeding choices he made. I got the jist of what was said in a diffrent language:

"wag mo na patulan mga ungas na to.... hehehe, iba kasi sa kanila, illegal ung mga chains sa leeg, cruelty to animals sa kanila yun.....sa PTO ka nalang......."

I took that to mean " Paqiou 8 > Barrera." heh, heh
Seriously, I am into learning foriegn languages, so , I'd appreciate a translation, if appropiate.
well, sorri for the foreign language:) ..... it has got nothing to do with paquaio and barrera.hehehe:) ....... I just said that it is different in the states that huge chains around a dogs neck is cruelty to animals...actually, punishable by law.......:)

[Tonka03]

not being mean or anything and see some good dogs on peds... but thses dogs do not look good to me. i know i know we are not in it just for looks but they look different or something... i dunno.

[EDOGZ818]

Actually I like the way the male off of KABUTO "LOOKS", and I like the way he is bred better. Most "GAMEBRED", dogs bear little resemblance to dogs bred for conformation. I bet you get a lotta " Is he a pure pit?". LOL, trust me, thats a good sign. That one female has ears like CH. COWBOY. Besides, pre - 1976, DOGMEN, hoped thier dogs "LOOKS", would cause them to be underrated and overlooked. This gave them an edge if the competition was foolish enough to underestimate them. (Which usually wasn't likely.)

[MinorThreat]

most gamebred dogs dont resemble conf dogs?

its a good sign if someone asks if a dog is "pure pit?"

DOGMEN hoped their dogs "LOOKS" would cause them to be underrated and overlooked and gave them an edge in comp?

Seriously, do you post to just post?

[strike]

I guess it looks cool huh? We are not peddlers, and you came here asking for advice on what to breed....then you get pissed at the responses....nobody dissed you or bashed you, and I thought you were leaving, you are still posting...you know, being we are all peddlers and stuff, I mean I undestand you not wanting to be here! :D We dont breed the kind of dogs you do! :Dpost your 200$ dog and il tell you to send your dog to adoption center:D

[strike]

not being mean or anything and see some good dogs on peds... but thses dogs do not look good to me. i know i know we are not in it just for looks but they look different or something... i dunno.my dogs dont look good to you.post your dog and il make a comment:D

[strike]

Hell yeah!!! Jovice Arce IS VERY MUCH REPUTABLE!!!!
I got a dog from one of His lines - a grandson of hardrock 1xw..... and he is VERY GAME!!!!!!


and strike, "wag mo na patulan mga ungas na to.... hehehe, iba kasi sa kanila, illegal ung mga chains sa leeg, cruelty to animals sa kanila yun.....sa PTO ka nalang......."

:)Kupal mga to!puro kuripot naman pag namimili!100$ chini-checke pa o credit card:)

[lockjaw]

honest advise to your question...i would breed the best of the two males to the best of the two females......bla,bla bla,big ass chain...bla,bla,bla,they consider it animal cruelity....bla,bla,bla jackass...see i also know foriegn language...........http://www.marshallsmith.net/juneIT/blogs/archives/bush-finger.jpg

[EDOGZ818]

Seriously, do you post to just post?No, but the ones I've seen have a different "LOOK", than the pure conformations dogs. Of course there is no absolutes with the dogs, but in general, from what I've seen, a breeding specimen is chosen purely on performance. Conformation ideals aren't even considered. (IE: SQUARE HEAD, WIDE CHEST etc.) Only winning. Conformation is bred based on "LOOKS".
Look at GR.CH. MAYDAY for example, or CH. BOOGER, or even CH. COWBOY, who "LOOKS" like the female with the rose (semi bat) ears. CH. COWBOY "LOOKS", just as funny "LOOK"ing as STRIKE's female that was negatively commented on, yet he has 3 wins (ALLEGEDGLY) over 3 "Champions", all under 1/2 hour. (Don't get me started on 3 CH. quitting in under a half hour. Thats another topic on its own.)
Furthermore, if the question is phrased "Is that a pure pit?", 9x out of 10 its asked by a noob, who doesn't know much about the dogs. Thier version of a "PIT", is the large head, 100+lbs, not IE: the male off of KABUTA.
Now, if someone mistakenly underestimates a dog because of appearance, it may lead to under preparation. That is an advantage in my eyes. You can't judge a book by its cover. You'll learn that after you get a little more time in with the dogs.

[MinorThreat]

actually, a lot of "conf" dogs are straight off hunting dogs and square heads and wide chest in general are neither of the two, so I dont know what youre talking about (as usual)

What does bat ears have to do with anything?

Why would you continue to use Cowboy in your posts? (internet dogmen)

you said in your previous post its a good thing and to trust you on it, if someone asks if your dogs is pure pit, lol.

What are you talking about if someone underestimates a dog? The majority of times, the dog being conf shown against has never been layed eyes on before by the opponent until the show. Do they see them at the dog park or something? Either way, nobody who shows dogs would take conditioning light if they laid eyes on the dog anyway. Youre so lost on everything, you dont make sense

and thanks for the old school dogman advice by letting me in on not judging a book by its cover, what great insight.

Yeah you have a lot on me experience wise, I'm sure

happy internet to you

[strike]

honest advise to your question...i would breed the best of the two males to the best of the two females......bla,bla bla,big ass chain...bla,bla,bla,they consider it animal cruelity....bla,bla,bla jackass...see i also know foriegn language...........http://www.marshallsmith.net/juneIT/blogs/archives/bush-finger.jpgThanks bla blah!animal cruelty if you neglegted your pets,and you dont give them attention,love,& care!if you dont feed them right!etc etc!question mr jack ass sori(Mr.Lockjaw) whats the point of george bush pics here?!take a look of some game dogs don't they use chains?:p

[Searcy Jeff]

post your 200$ dog and il tell you to send your dog to adoption center:DLMAO!
Do you have the slightest clue to what line she has in her yard? Don't bash someone else's dog before you do your homework. I'd take a dog from FK's yard any day! I don't care if they were sold for $1.00 or was given free! The price doesn't justify the dog!

On another note, if you knew anything about breeding, you wouldn't ask if this is possible.

[Tonka03]

my dogs dont look good to you.post your dog and il make a comment:D

go to my gallery and see my dogs.


tony

[Lethalpits]

Kumusta, strike?

Don't take the criticism too personally, I think most are jumpin at you cause it looks like your putting a "plug" in for your dogs, but since you are across the world it really doesn't matter.

Based off peds, I'd put Kabuta to Barby for the Jeep/Mayday and Arrigo to Jasmine for the Redboy/Bolio with a shot of Tab. Keep us updated on the results.

[miakoda]

that it is different in the states that huge chains around a dogs neck is cruelty to animals.

It has nothing to do with cruelty to animals. It has everything to do with common sense in that a chain that size only serves to leave your dog with damaged cervical discs, herniated discs, muscle soreness, and in general will break them down over time. IMO it seems like some here like to think there dogs are so big-n-bad that they have to be on a chain that size. Get real. 1/4 inch will do the job for all your dogs. Period.

Second, breed only the best of the best to the best of the best. That's it. The rest should never enter the gene pool. And breeding for pretty pedigrees is no different than breeding for coat color, head size, chest size, or overall body size.

Third, I see a lot of severely splayed feet/paws.

[FearlessKnight]

post your 200$ dog and il tell you to send your dog to adoption center:D I am so very glad you are over seas.....
You have no idea what anyone has, a picture alone does not tell the dogs history, NEITHER DO THE PEDS YOU POSTED....
Go blow a goat~
We dont sell our dogs either by the way....
So go blow another one!
Sarcastic SOB

[Pitbull219]

i know we are not in it just for looks but they look different or something... i dunno.I have to say, I have noticed that many dogs from overseas I've seen do look a bit different than what I'm used to. For instance, someone from another country posted their supposed "CH" and the thing had long fur like a labrador. Not knocking dogmen outside the USA, but I have seen some things that make me wonder what the hell they're breeding exactly.....

[strike]

I am so very glad you are over seas.....
You have no idea what anyone has, a picture alone does not tell the dogs history, NEITHER DO THE PEDS YOU POSTED....
Go blow a goat~
We dont sell our dogs either by the way....
So go blow another one!
Sarcastic SOB *edited for lack of respect when talking to women.*

[strike]

go to my gallery and see my dogs.


tony
they all look terrible to me!is that what you call for the love of the breed?:p

[strike]

Kumusta, strike?

Don't take the criticism too personally, I think most are jumpin at you cause it looks like your putting a "plug" in for your dogs, but since you are across the world it really doesn't matter.

Based off peds, I'd put Kabuta to Barby for the Jeep/Mayday and Arrigo to Jasmine for the Redboy/Bolio with a shot of Tab. Keep us updated on the results.
This is what im talking about!thanks man!:)

[Marty]

they all look terrible to me!is that what you call for the love of the breed?:pStrike you know I gave you a chance but with your attitude I don't think you should be allowed here...

yes im the owner of these dogs!im asking for your opinion (constructively) guys.and to have a knowledge with you wise a**! coz some of you there in usa are making money of your dogs!this dogs are my hobbies and they are not for sale!so to those replying with harsh words go to mindanao and see whats in store for you!im outta here peddlers!see u sucka!:rolleyes: and i dont care if you ban me here there's a lot of site out there. So have a nice life without Game-dog.com

[FearlessKnight]

Strike you know I gave you a chance but with your attitude I don't think you should be allowed here...

So have a nice life without Game-dog.com I am sure the board appreciates it....
Thank you.......I know I do!

[EDOGZ818]

I have to say, I have noticed that many dogs from overseas I've seen do look a bit different than what I'm used to. For instance, someone from another country posted their supposed "CH" and the thing had long fur like a labrador. Not knocking dogmen outside the USA, but I have seen some things that make me wonder what the hell they're breeding exactly.....Yeah, thats what I was trying to point out. I know a 2xw that I would swear was a german sheppard. He was an excellent dog. And yes, organized "conf." shows usually don't see opponents first, but un orginized does. On the other hand, many people will "call out", the winner's in organized "conf." shows.
I don't expect you @ MINOR THREAT, to understand this, but who knows, one day you may see for yourself. Infact, based on how you were the only one dissing WALI the POPE, for reasons other than his message, 6mnth old culling of litters, and your opinions on gameness, I think your name suits you perfect. I couldn't have thought of a better name or term for you.

[DryCreek]

Since the OP has been banned and this thread is degenerating into squabbling...


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