raw chicken everyday?

[pitX]

can I feed a 5 mo. old puppy chicken necks and chicken hearts everyday? is it safe, I mean does it raise the risk of stroke or hypertension due to the high cholesterol?

how many chicken necks do you give?
tnx:)

[BoogiemanBlood]

can I feed a 5 mo. old puppy chicken necks and chicken hearts everyday? is it safe, I mean does it raise the risk of stroke or hypertension due to the high cholesterol?

how many chicken necks do you give?
tnx:)a high quality kibble is a much better idea

[jeeperino]

DO some more research on Raw/ Barf diets. Yes it is ok to feed raw chicken everyday but its not as simple as that.

[lunadogge]

can I feed a 5 mo. old puppy chicken necks and chicken hearts everyday? is it safe, I mean does it raise the risk of stroke or hypertension due to the high cholesterol?

how many chicken necks do you give?
tnx:)
Here are some good links regarding raw feeding.
http://www.rawfeddogs.net/ (http://www.rawfeddogs.net/)
http://rawfed.com/ (http://rawfed.com/)
http://www.rawlearning.com/ (http://www.rawlearning.com/)


Do a little more research. The key to a good raw diet is variety. I use the following formula to feed my dogs. 75-80% meat, 10-15% bone and 10% organ meats with a least half of that being liver. A whole chicken by itself is about 20-25% bone, Chicken necks are about 50% bone. Hearts are a great form of meat since they are loaded with taurine, but you need more then just hearts.

[Red Cocaine]

I feed raw whole chicken to my dogs and pups, I've been feeding it to them for a little over a year now, I have 2 10 month old pups that have had nothing but whole raw chicken. Where are you? if your close by I'll give you some.

[screamin'eagle]

Where are you? if your close by I'll give you some.
By his profile he's in the phillipines lol.

[frenchie1936]

actually if you were going to feed your dog raw meat chicken is a pretty good choice as it isn't high in cholesterol. now obviously feeding just chicken breast would be ideal for an adult because of the low fat content, but complete nutrition is vitally important for pups. a combo of beef and chicken is what i use for my pups until they are about seven months. i also supplement with nuvet. it works wonderfully and has always produced very healthy dogs. but i would say the most important person to ask would be your vet as he has the personal knowledge of your dogs health status.

[FearlessKnight]

Althought we dont feed raw..I do know a little but about it.I would thinkt hat for a puppy it would be a little too high in protein, given the fact that it is a pup that does not work that much....and as was stated before....feeding RAW is more than handing out chicken Pieces....it should be studied and researched before feeding....
I would think a good quality kibble for the next 6 months and research would be best!

[Rocky H. Balboa]

Yes, you can feed raw chicken every day. That said, if you do, it should not be the only thing you feed every day. Like with any living organism, a balanced diet is the way to a balanced body. Your chicken parts should be used as a complement to your base kibble feed.

I also want to point out that for dogs and specially pups, fat is good but too much protein can lead to expedited growth which may lead to bone/joint issues.

So, if you are feeding a good quality kibble, quantity of necks and hearts will depend on size and age of dog. I would say that two or three necks and three or four whole chicken heart should be enough to complement a kibble with little animal protein.

Regards,


Rocky H. Balboa

[Big Rod]

So, if you are feeding a good quality kibble, quantity of necks and hearts will depend on size and age of dog. I would say that two or three necks and three or four whole chicken heart should be enough to complement a kibble with little animal protein.

Hey Rock, you mean enough to complement for a week right? Just have to make it clear so ppl dont go out and feed that in one day :eek:

[hrdeluxe]

Although there is some benefit to feeding raw.....I am a firm believer that us humans have created better kibble for dogs than any "natural" diet can achieve. I honestly don't think that a wild wolf's diet is better than a Timberwolf Organic or other high-end kibble. There are too many necessary vitamins, minerals, and other items dogs need that are not found in raw chicken alone. Also, the chemicals that these chicken get injected with prior to slaughter cannot be good for humans or animals.

My suggestion is find a high-quality organic kibble for your pups. There are plenty out there and many are at very reasonable prices.

[FearlessKnight]

Although there is some benefit to feeding raw.....I am a firm believer that us humans have created better kibble for dogs than any "natural" diet can achieve. I honestly don't think that a wild wolf's diet is better than a Timberwolf Organic or other high-end kibble. There are too many necessary vitamins, minerals, and other items dogs need that are not found in raw chicken alone. Also, the chemicals that these chicken get injected with prior to slaughter cannot be good for humans or animals.

My suggestion is find a high-quality organic kibble for your pups. There are plenty out there and many are at very reasonable prices. The highlighted part of what you say is true....but youa re able to feed RAW organics....
And being I have nver tried it, I would not go as far to say Timberwolf is better than RAW done right...
TW is propbably one of the best kibbles out there, but thats for kibbles!

My beef with meat sources..is that they are being injected with hormones...and that alone os not good for humans nor dogs...

[pitX]

i give him a high protein puppy dogfood (about 32% protein) 2x a day, 1 and 1/2 cup per meal.... and 1 chicken neck at night... I plan on giving him a slice of pig heart every other day, probably in place of the chicken neck... is this ok?
tnx

[Rocky H. Balboa]

Although there is some benefit to feeding raw.....I am a firm believer that us humans have created better kibble for dogs than any "natural" diet can achieve.
I guess the word FRESH ingredients means nada to you?

Yes, there is very good quality dog kibble on the market. Yet, people are attracted to it because of serving simplicity. Under a kibble diet, there is no need to retain feeding diaries, an array of measuring tools, and other feeding micromanaging. Under a kibble diet, all you need is a measuring cup and serve as per chart on dog bag. Simplicity of serving is what makes kibble so popular for the public. Conversely, a raw (BARF) diet is appealing because quality, palate, freshness, and digestibility of its ingredients.

If you are a FIRM believer of your above statement, would you care to elaborate on your stance?

I honestly don't think that a wild wolf's diet is better than a Timberwolf Organic or other high-end kibble. There are too many necessary vitamins, minerals, and other items dogs need that are not found in raw chicken alone.
I will agree with you that today's wolf is not in as good a shape as a domestic dog eating "timberwolf organic" or other high-end kibble. That said, that is a fact due to human invasion of their natural habitats which in turn reduced prey numbers, thereafter, starvation level rose. I certainly do not know much about wolves but would be interested to watch one eating Timberwolf Organic kibble. Would it prefer to eat it over seeking a "natural" prey?

Also, the chemicals that these chicken get injected with prior to slaughter cannot be good for humans or animals.
My beef with meat sources..is that they are being injected with hormones...and that alone os not good for humans nor dogs...
Wrong, wrong wrong. You are talking about a misconception. Rather than reading my annoying words, here is a link to the "almighty" Timberwolf Site's explanation:

http://timberwolforganics.com/s.nl/it.I/id.8/.f

Some of you have probably heard numerous claims about pet foods using "human grade", "antibiotic and hormone free" "meat based" etc. and do not know what to believe anymore. Below I will try to address some of the claims that are really half true and that could be construed as being misleading.

First let us say that federal labeling law precludes pet food manufacturers from including "misleading" statements on their bag. For example: Some say that they use only antibiotic and hormone free chicken, lamb etc. That is not exactly true. It is against federal law for chicken to be labeled as hormone free. That's because growers may not use hormones on chickens. To label your chicken as hormone free would imply that your chickens are the only ones that are hormone free when in fact they all are! What happens with other animals used for human consumption is that they must test free of hormones, antibiotics or pesticides before slaughter. It usually takes three to five days to clear their systems of any chemicals. Those animals that are earmarked for slaughter are kept free of chemicals for several days and then butchered. When I think of "antibiotic and hormone free" I think of an animal that has been raised chemical free, not just for a few days. A play on words perhaps but borderlines on fraud. Ask if it is Certified Organic, "pasture grazed only" or imported from a country that restricts the use of chemicals if that is what you want. Of course you will pay a lot more.

My suggestion is find a high-quality organic kibble for your pups. There are plenty out there and many are at very reasonable prices.
agreed. feeding a quality kibble is dummy proof.

i give him a high protein puppy dogfood (about 32% protein) 2x a day, 1 and 1/2 cup per meal.... and 1 chicken neck at night... I plan on giving him a slice of pig heart every other day, probably in place of the chicken neck... is this ok?
tnx

"high protein"? what are the first four ingredients on the list? If it is corn, wheat, rice, or other grains, that is where your protein percentages are coming from. Also, don't jump for joy if you see by-products mixed in there..they are the residual remains of what was animal parts. If your area or country does not have economically feasable (better) alternatives, supplement with raw meats and bones and choose better of bunch by identifying most digestible ingredients.

[FearlessKnight]

I have read it..and we feed it....I know what it says..It says they arent sure what to believe anymore!
Hormones are causing young girls to produce earlier and it is from chicken as well as mentrasting.....at 8 and 9 years old.....

[hrdeluxe]

[QUOTE=Rocky's Human]I guess the word FRESH ingredients means nada to you?

Yes, there is very good quality dog kibble on the market. Yet, people are attracted to it because of serving simplicity. Under a kibble diet, there is no need to retain feeding diaries, an array of measuring tools, and other feeding micromanaging. Under a kibble diet, all you need is a measuring cup and serve as per chart on dog bag. Simplicity of serving is what makes kibble so popular for the public. Conversely, a raw (BARF) diet is appealing because quality, palate, freshness, and digestibility of its ingredients.

Question: If you are a FIRM believer of your above statement, would you care to elaborate on your stance?

Answer: My whole original paragraph was of the same stance. Meaning us humans have made a well-balanced diet in kibble. More balanced than a wolf's diet in the wild and more balanced than a raw chicken diet. The BARF diet is very different than what I was referencing.

Question: I will agree with you that today's wolf is not in as good a shape as a domestic dog eating "timberwolf organic" or other high-end kibble. That said, that is a fact due to human invasion of their natural habitats which in turn reduced prey numbers, thereafter, starvation level rose. I certainly do not know much about wolves but would be interested to watch one eating Timberwolf Organic kibble. Would it prefer to eat it over seeking a "natural" prey?

Answer: You would have to ask the wolf that. Its coat and teeth would surely be shiny and healthy. lol



[Rocky's Human] Wrong, wrong wrong. You are talking about a misconception. Rather than reading my annoying words, here is a link to the "almighty" Timberwolf Site's explanation:

[Hrdeluxe] Poor choice of using the "injected chemical" term....Should have said "exposed"....Like I said in my original post.....Organic kibble.

[215pitts]

I feed my dogs raw chicken only in the evening and during the morning time I feed their dry food. You have to be careful if your going to be feeding raw food especially if there are bones involved. For example, my dogs swallow after one or two bites so I normally have to meat hammer their chicken that has bones before I give it to them. Make sure that the meat is freak as well.

[EDOGZ818]

Now I have no idea about raw feeding, but what about salmenella? I know in the wild, this is not a concern, but it just seems to me that it is. As far as the issue with young girls maturing, there are a lot of drugs pumped into the animals to make them grow larger.Steriods. Any drug is addictive by any name, even the drugs in meat are the same.

[Sid Finster]

I think it was our own PurplePig that did say "A dog will eat things that would make a billygoat gag!" and twas a true and noble statement. A dog was designed to eat and digest some disgusting things - that's why its stomach produces powerful acid and its intestinal tract is designed like a straight pipe.
The acid in a dog's stomach can kill a lot of bacteria, and even if the meat is too rotten for the dog's stomach to handle, the bad food can be either thrown up or pooped out.

The problem with raw chicken and salmonella is cross-contamination. Humans are not nearly so resistant to salmonella and whatnot.

[pitX]

how about pork heart?? is it good to give them heart everyday?? heart is pure muscle... but is it good food???

[concreterose]

I also want to point out that for dogs and specially pups, fat is good but too much protein can lead to expedited growth which may lead to bone/joint issues.



Regards,


Rocky H. BalboaResearch has shown that this is not true.
http://www.b-naturals.com/Nov2005.php
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=0&articleid=1104
http://www.b-naturals.com/Jan2004.php

I would NOT feed chicken exclusively in a raw diet. Different protein sources provide different vitamins and minerals for dogs.
Here is an idea of a raw diet for pups. I refer to this particular site often because the author has been feeding raw for over 20 years.She has bred, raised and shown several generations of rottweilers on a raw diet with awesome results.

She also has a PhD in natural health and has her own line of vitamins that I have used for a couple years now with awesome results.She also backs up her information with research and sources to support what she says, not just hearsay. She does not just push just raw diets either, but advocates premium kibble.

Here are some examples of some diets for puppies. There are several other examples on the web that people have out there, and also books on starting puppies on raw. You can adjust the recipes to meet your needs, and you don't necessarily have to use all the supplements that she recommends.
http://www.b-naturals.com/natural.php
http://www.b-naturals.com/Sep2002.php
http://www.b-naturals.com/Jun2006.php