Has this ever happened to you?

[215pitts]

During feeding time this morning, a car comes up our drive way and two people come out. I've never seen these people in my damn life and they start talking to me about dogs. Than they asked if I had any dogs for sale, I cutt them short and told them I don't have anything for sale and to leave because if you weren't invited to the house your not invited at all. So one of the guys says that a friend of his, who bought a pup from me a few years ago informed him to come see me. Again I told them, I don't breed or sale to the public and to leave. At this point I'm pissed off, my dogs are going crazy trying to get through their kennels and the two females I have chained up in the yard are jumping up and down. So, one of the guys gets upset raising his fagget ass voice and demands for my pup. Than I got upset and reached behind my shirt grab my 9mm which I carry every now and than. The guys see me reaching for something and they said "Aight YO, we leaving. We didn't want to cause trouble" Than they got in their car and took off.

Who in there right mind thinks they are that "GANGSTA" to come up to a person's house in the country side asking about dogs, raising their voice and demanding a dog? You have to be out your mind to do something like that. What they didn't know is, I spent more than 21 years of my life in the heart of Philadelphia and they thought I didn't know what was going to go down. These guys are a bunch of ROOKIES!

Side note "If your not invited don't think about stepping a foot on the property".

[BoogiemanBlood]

During feeding time this morning, a car comes up our drive way and two people come out. I've never seen these people in my damn life and they start talking to me about dogs. Than they asked if I had any dogs for sale, I cutt them short and told them I don't have anything for sale and to leave because if you weren't invited to the house your not invited at all. So one of the guys says that a friend of his, who bought a pup from me a few years ago informed him to come see me. Again I told them, I don't breed or sale to the public and to leave. At this point I'm pissed off, my dogs are going crazy trying to get through their kennels and the two females I have chained up in the yard are jumping up and down. So, one of the guys gets upset raising his fagget ass voice and demands for my pup. Than I got upset and reached behind my shirt grab my 9mm which I carry every now and than. The guys see me reaching for something and they said "Aight YO, we leaving. We didn't want to cause trouble" Than they got in their car and took off.

Who in there right mind thinks they are that "GANGSTA" to come up to a person's house in the country side asking about dogs, raising their voice and demanding a dog? You have to be out your mind to do something like that. What they didn't know is, I spent more than 21 years of my life in the heart of Philadelphia and they thought I didn't know what was going to go down. These guys are a bunch of ROOKIES!

Side note "If your not invited don't think about stepping a foot on the property".good for u! fuck the trash ass thiefs!

[chloesredboy]

man that scary,guess you'll be sleeping on the porch with a loaded gun !

[Searcy Jeff]

During feeding time this morning, a car comes up our drive way and two people come out. I've never seen these people in my damn life and they start talking to me about dogs. Than they asked if I had any dogs for sale, I cutt them short and told them I don't have anything for sale and to leave because if you weren't invited to the house your not invited at all. So one of the guys says that a friend of his, who bought a pup from me a few years ago informed him to come see me. Again I told them, I don't breed or sale to the public and to leave. At this point I'm pissed off, my dogs are going crazy trying to get through their kennels and the two females I have chained up in the yard are jumping up and down. So, one of the guys gets upset raising his fagget ass voice and demands for my pup. Than I got upset and reached behind my shirt grab my 9mm which I carry every now and than. The guys see me reaching for something and they said "Aight YO, we leaving. We didn't want to cause trouble" Than they got in their car and took off.

Who in there right mind thinks they are that "GANGSTA" to come up to a person's house in the country side asking about dogs, raising their voice and demanding a dog? You have to be out your mind to do something like that. What they didn't know is, I spent more than 21 years of my life in the heart of Philadelphia and they thought I didn't know what was going to go down. These guys are a bunch of ROOKIES!

Side note "If your not invited don't think about stepping a foot on the property".I would have done the exact same thing. I would still keep an eye out. It doesn't sound right to me. Just be alert.

[ABK]

Yup, keep an eye out. They'll be back when they think you're not home. You can bet the house on that.

[simms]

Yup, keep an eye out. They'll be back when they think you're not home. You can bet the house on that.
I agree.....

[Chef-Kergin]

Glad to hear there was no trouble.

Like to see someone else excercising their rights with a CCW ;) (Glock 19/9mm is my preferred biscuit to carry)

You might want to go to your local superstore and invest in a CCTV setup.

It'd be worth your time to set up a camera, and get a vcr hooked up to the tv so you can record while you're gone. Make sure it has a good view of the front of your property and your drive way, incase they park down the road and walk up. Also might want to have one trained on your dog's chain spot. A motion sensor light might be a headache at first, but if your dogs outside are inactive at night, that'd be WELL worth your $$$. It's a great deterrant.

If someone wants a dog of yours or something inside, chances ar they're going to get it if you're not home. But if you are home, shoot first, do the drywall work later.

Hope you don't have to cross their path again.

[215pitts]

I was currently laid off from working in Philadelphia so I'm not too worried about anyone coming to the house. I think it's time to invest in a fence shocker so the dogs can run around free.l

[BoiBoi]

damn man thats rough, next time let them fools know u will use ur rights and lay them bustas out flat. Keep an eye out, once a hoodrat always a hoodrat, they might try some shady stuff

[screamin'eagle]

Than I got upset and reached behind my shirt grab my 9mm which I carry every now and than. The guys see me reaching for something and they said "Aight YO, we leaving. We didn't want to cause trouble" Than they got in their car and took off.

Hopefully it's all over, but more than likely they'll be back. Time to upgrade from a 9mm to something with more stopping power.

[EDOGZ818]

Thats why I like Pa. They won't be back unless they really want to buy a pup. (Which they probably just wanted to do anyway, but didn't know how to go about it.) Who's gonna mess with a certified heat holder?

[Chef-Kergin]

Who's gonna mess with a certified heat holder?
you'd be surprised.

They might not be certified, but they're as unsure if you'll dischrage (if they know you carry) as you are if they will.

Me, I personally don't want to ever have to fire a weapon (withholding paintball guns) at another human. One, the cops take the firearm, two, you might've been operating within the law, but three, you're almost garuanteed to lose the civil case to the family of the departed.

Just make sure you operate within the law, and that you can recover and sight your target accurately without closing one eye to aim. ;) A lot of folks don't realize when the adrenaline's pumping, your eyes won't blink as a reflex, and it's near impossible to keep one eye closed to line your sights.

[fitzpit]

get yourself a mossburg pistol-grip pump 12ga.

you'll never have to fire it - just let it be seen :D

[Chef-Kergin]

get yourself a mossburg pistol-grip pump 12ga.

you'll never have to fire it - just let it be seen :D
A shotgun being cocked is an international language that everyone speaks. They definitely know what you mean.

[fitzpit]

A shotgun being cocked is an international language that everyone speaks. They definitely know what you mean.

the 500 model holds 8 rounds...make the first couple blanks,you might get a heartattack out of em before a wound.

[NOLEFAN]

man you guys are amatuers...lol I suggest a barrett AR15...., keep the nine as a back up

[MajorPain]

I don’t know what I would do if someone came to my house like that. I don’t own a gun but I think its time to buy one.

[BoiBoi]

man you guys are amatuers...lol I suggest a barrett AR15...., keep the nine as a back up
damn bro he aint trying to go to war, shoot a 22 will do the job just fine, its all a matter of where u aim

[215pitts]

get yourself a mossburg pistol-grip pump 12ga.

you'll never have to fire it - just let it be seen :DI already have 2 12g shot guns that was a gift from my dad awhile back, I just cleaned them last night and ready to use. If these guys come back they "definitely" want to go shot at. The law, I'm not worried because my uncle is a cop and his brother my other uncle is a lawyer. Legal issue, I'm not worried.

[fitzpit]

ar15? kinda heavy isnt it?

you trying to hit em from a mile away? lol

my personal favorite to keep by the door is a ruger 10/22...yeah i know its a 22 but its also got a 50 round banana clip:)

[coolhandjean]

Stinks that these punks felt they could just walk up and demand your dog...But like others have said, keep an eye out. This time they tried muscle to get a dog. Next time they might try to sneak and get one.

[jaystreetsA4]

just get a gun turrent on the roof. 50 caliber

[Michele]

Please be careful. Keep your dogs safe.

[screamin'eagle]

just get a gun turrent on the roof. 50 caliber
that's what I was referring to, but trying to be subtle...a barret's .50 cal sniper rifle. It will cost a few grand, but you can stop their asses from 3,000 meters. lol.

BTW, cocking a shotgun sends a clear signal, but readying a M2 (military nomenclature for .50 cal) is unmistakeable as you mean business.

[jaystreetsA4]

stop them? lol more like blow a piece off them and send them flying lol

[screamin'eagle]

stop them? lol more like blow a piece off them and send them flying lol
lol...stop them, and the vehicle they're traveling in...too funny.

[NOLEFAN]

just get a gun turrent on the roof. 50 caliber


now your talkin....lol

[NOLEFAN]

ar15? kinda heavy isnt it?

you trying to hit em from a mile away? lol

my personal favorite to keep by the door is a ruger 10/22...yeah i know its a 22 but its also got a 50 round banana clip:)

I fully subscribe to shock and awe......kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out!

I actually carry a 40cal Baby Eagle, i generally hold of on the heavy equipment, depending on the threat

[14rock]

Reminds me of the horrible remake, of Gone in 60 seconds with Nicholas Cage. They are boosting some cars, just get another one to load up in the truck, when some punk pulls a gun on them and tries a hi-jacking (in a car that isn't even theirs). The older guy beats the hell out of him, takes his gun, and says something along the lines of "You immature, no brained idiot. You wouldn't know the first thing about stealing a car!". When he walks away "Boy, you need a role model!"

LOL

[MajorPain]

Reminds me of the horrible remake, of Gone in 60 seconds with Nicholas Cage. They are boosting some cars, just get another one to load up in the truck, when some punk pulls a gun on them and tries a hi-jacking (in a car that isn't even theirs). The older guy beats the hell out of him, takes his gun, and says something along the lines of "You immature, no brained idiot. You wouldn't know the first thing about stealing a car!". When he walks away "Boy, you need a role model!"

LOL
You thought it was a horrible remake? I didn’t think it was the best movie but I wouldn’t call it horrible.

[14rock]

Good movie, but "horrible" remake. It's hard to beat the original, and this one just didn't come close. With a different name, and story line, it could of been great. I bought it as a remake, and judged it next to it's predecesor. Computer Generated Graphics, and trick camera shots just don't quite make up for the real driving skill, and nostalgia cars in the original. Have you seen it? The number of cars they actually destroy, is astronomical. The last 45 minutes of the movie, is a multi-city chase, with some of the best driving you'll ever see. No gimicks, just a ballsy stuntman and cars tough enough to pull through!

I'll be the first to admit, the acting in the original is horrible. But, it's a car movie.

Hollywood made it a real movie, type movie, with a better plot, big name actors, and lots of special effects. Sold alot more tickets, and intrigued a much bigger demographic, but it took away from the integrity of the original with the cliche' role casting. The "villian" and the last minute replacement who doesn't talk, are perfect examples of what I didn't like about the movie.


Pretty decent movie, had it not used the Gone in 60 seconds name imo.

[MajorPain]

Good movie, but "horrible" remake. It's hard to beat the original, and this one just didn't come close. With a different name, and story line, it could of been great. I bought it as a remake, and judged it next to it's predecesor. Computer Generated Graphics, and trick camera shots just don't quite make up for the real driving skill, and nostalgia cars in the original. Have you seen it? The number of cars they actually destroy, is astronomical. The last 45 minutes of the movie, is a multi-city chase, with some of the best driving you'll ever see. No gimicks, just a ballsy stuntman and cars tough enough to pull through!

I'll be the first to admit, the acting in the original is horrible. But, it's a car movie.

Hollywood made it a real movie, type movie, with a better plot, big name actors, and lots of special effects. Sold alot more tickets, and intrigued a much bigger demographic, but it took away from the integrity of the original with the cliche' role casting. The "villian" and the last minute replacement who doesn't talk, are perfect examples of what I didn't like about the movie.


Pretty decent movie, had it not used the Gone in 60 seconds name imo.


No I haven’t seen the original. I have that blockbuster all access and I am running out of movies I haven’t seen so I will have to order it. I would like to see a movie were there was actual skill involved. I do drag and autocross in my car.

[SouthernDixie]

Oh man I'm glad you got the situtation taken care of at that moment, but I agree with everyone else as to keep an eye out for a while.

I've got a relative who has had one bitch stolen twice, both times recovered - both by the same person who was refused a pup.

[lockjaw]

go to a sporting goods store buy a flare gun..no bullets so no bullistics..can break it with a hammer so no weapon..fire it into a car ..shoots a mile to a mile and a half...at point blank in the mouth...wha-la jack-o-lantern......most important shoot first ...ask questions last:cool: ...and rule #1 never pull a gun out unless you plan on using it..

[440rider]

Serbu Super-Shorty 12ga

[Searcy Jeff]

I'm sure he appreciates all of our inputs, but its not like he's in Iraq. No need to lay on his rooftop manning the .50 Cal or behind a turret. LOL. I'm sure his shotgun and 9mm will do just fine.

[screamin'eagle]

I'm sure he appreciates all of our inputs, but its not like he's in Iraq.
LOL...I loose track of that from time to time. I was only half kidding though. People knew that a soldier raising a m4 carbine meant he was probably not going to fire. On the flip side...they didn't want to see whether he was bluffing or not with the M2. Actually, just turning the gunner's turret was enough to clear a path.

On the serious side...I'd still bump that 9mm up to atleast a 45. The 9mm might not stop a 200lb man at 25 meters...I have little doubt that a 45 would.

[BoiBoi]

LOL...I loose track of that from time to time. I was only half kidding though. People knew that a soldier raising a m4 carbine meant he was probably not going to fire. On the flip side...they didn't want to see whether he was bluffing or not with the M2. Actually, just turning the gunner's turret was enough to clear a path.

On the serious side...I'd still bump that 9mm up to atleast a 45. The 9mm might not stop a 200lb man at 25 meters...I have little doubt that a 45 would.
u really don't think so, comeon man if i was shot with a damn 22 i'd stop in my tracks not a damn 9, plus if the one don't stop the guy keep pulling the hammer, theres at least 10 more were that came from

[screamin'eagle]

u really don't think so, comeon man if i was shot with a damn 22 i'd stop in my tracks not a damn 9, plus if the one don't stop the guy keep pulling the hammer, theres at least 10 more were that came fromI guess this is headed off topic quickly, but I was saying that the 9mm is not reliable to stop sh!t. If I did use a 9mm it would be a MP5 (fully auto). Also with a .22 the higher the velocity the less likely it will put a man down in one or two shots. For example, a Nato .556 round (fired from M-16, M4, or civilian Ar15) usually will travel through a man too quickly. If he's medium to large sized (with adrenaline pumping) and has to cover less than the length of a room he will reach you before you stop him. (barring you put one between his eyes. Also unlikely given adrenaline, it's probably night, you probably don't have optics sights on that handgun, and the average joe doesn't fire enough to shoot that well). I have experienced a man get shot 6 times (with a 9mm) in the midsection, one round rupturing his scrotum, and he walked to me bleeding to get medical treatment. He was not stopped by that shit. He lost his thumb, but lived another day.

You are right though keep shooting...it will take alot. Those are the realities from close quarters combat, and not what is perpetrated by hollywood. Men usually don't fly backward when shot and die immediately like in the movies. I understand a little about weapons, and to be better safe than sorry more than a 9mm is needed to reliably stop someone.

[jaystreetsA4]

so a 50 cal shot from a turrent gun doesnt send people flying? not to sound like an idiot but i thought tht it was tht powerful of a shot

[dunlap]

During feeding time this morning, a car comes up our drive way and two people come out. I've never seen these people in my damn life and they start talking to me about dogs. Than they asked if I had any dogs for sale, I cutt them short and told them I don't have anything for sale and to leave because if you weren't invited to the house your not invited at all. So one of the guys says that a friend of his, who bought a pup from me a few years ago informed him to come see me. Again I told them, I don't breed or sale to the public and to leave. At this point I'm pissed off, my dogs are going crazy trying to get through their kennels and the two females I have chained up in the yard are jumping up and down. So, one of the guys gets upset raising his fagget ass voice and demands for my pup. Than I got upset and reached behind my shirt grab my 9mm which I carry every now and than. The guys see me reaching for something and they said "Aight YO, we leaving. We didn't want to cause trouble" Than they got in their car and took off.

Who in there right mind thinks they are that "GANGSTA" to come up to a person's house in the country side asking about dogs, raising their voice and demanding a dog? You have to be out your mind to do something like that. What they didn't know is, I spent more than 21 years of my life in the heart of Philadelphia and they thought I didn't know what was going to go down. These guys are a bunch of ROOKIES!

Side note "If your not invited don't think about stepping a foot on the property".

Sounds like they were just "scoping" things out, they'll be back I'm sure... I've had a few people try that with me but most everyone around here knows that they'll be shot for trying to steal from me/us again. I think you can get a $40.00 security camera from Lowes but you'll need a light outside for night time. That or maybe a "game camera" that is motion activated, my brother-in-law got one not too long ago do to worthless thieves :/

[chloesredboy]

get yourself a mossburg pistol-grip pump 12ga.

you'll never have to fire it - just let it be seen :DNothing beats a good 'ol Mossburg!

[Chef-Kergin]

I have a mossberg persuader that I keep in the closet, incase I need to do some drywall work.

But, depending on where I travel, I have been known to bring this one along with me, besides the glock 19.

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee102/kergin/45.jpg

Sometimes you do need more stopping power than a 9 ;) ".45" is the #1 name in home security for a reason. And the hollow points help, too.

[Sid Finster]

n.b. Having a uncle who is a lawyer isn't going to help you much in defending a civil case. In fact, representing you would probably be an ethical violation. Anyway, you can bet that the plaintiff will have a lawyer too.

In a similar vein, I personally would forget the flare guns, blanks, paintballs, etc.. If you are going to shoot someone, you'd be best advised to do it and not threaten.

Yes, these jackasses will be back again. Be prepared to defend your yard, to the extent that the law of Pennsylvania allows.

To my readers: this is not intended as legal advice and should not be construed as such.

[COLDSTEEL APBT]

:D Yes ! This happens to me every 1st & 15th of the month. Only instead of two foo's it's always 3 white guys asking to buy a pup with food stamps.

[215pitts]

n.b. Having a uncle who is a lawyer isn't going to help you much in defending a civil case. In fact, representing you would probably be an ethical violation. Anyway, you can bet that the plaintiff will have a lawyer too.

In a similar vein, I personally would forget the flare guns, blanks, paintballs, etc.. If you are going to shoot someone, you'd be best advised to do it and not threaten.

Yes, these jackasses will be back again. Be prepared to defend your yard, to the extent that the law of Pennsylvania allows.

To my readers: this is not intended as legal advice and should not be construed as such.Agreed but it's always great to get advice form them. I mean free services, why not? :) Anyhow, this doesn't scare me it's nothing to where I was held at gun point while going to HS a long time ago and getting jumped while back in Philly. I never would of thought people would be so serious about dogs! I mean is it that serious where you have to rob,steal,shoot people just to get a dog that doesn't belong to you? People here have no common.