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[chloesredboy]

Today my foster dog Bruiser was killed.He was living with my brother and while evryone was at work his neighbors boxer dug under the fence came into the yard and got into a fight with bruiser.The P.O.S. cow next door called animal control and said that Bruiser had stuck his head through the hole in the fence and drug her dog into my brothers backyard and mauled it.Nevermind my brothers other dog who wasnt hurt was allready back ther with him if he really wanted to maul another dog he could have gotten him much easier.When my brother gets home there is a note on his door from animla control saying Bruiser is being taken to the Animal shelter,of course by the time he gets down ther it is too late for my poor Bruiser.The boxers havea history of attacking each other ,they are known vicious dogs.But,of course none of this was brought out untill it was too late.Animal control responded to her call ,decided it was the killer Pit bull's fault and it was done.How can this happen when her dog came onto their property?I just cant get over this shit its so fucked up.Then she actually had the nerve to demand my brother pay for her vet bills!When my brither asked how she got Bruiser off her dog she said she just yelled at him and he stoped.WTF?The whole story was a complete load of shit but they bought it just because it was a pit bull involved.I'm so sick over this shit.These hysterical witch hunt has got to end.:( :mad:

[El Morro Kennels]

Today my foster dog Bruiser was killed.He was living with my brother and while evryone was at work his neighbors boxer dug under the fence came into the yard and got into a fight with bruiser.The P.O.S. cow next door called animal control and said that Bruiser had stuck his head through the hole in the fence and drug her dog into my brothers backyard and mauled it.Nevermind my brothers other dog who wasnt hurt was allready back ther with him if he really wanted to maul another dog he could have gotten him much easier.When my brother gets home there is a note on his door from animla control saying Bruiser is being taken to the Animal shelter,of course by the time he gets down ther it is too late for my poor Bruiser.The boxers havea history of attacking each other ,they are known vicious dogs.But,of course none of this was brought out untill it was too late.Animal control responded to her call ,decided it was the killer Pit bull's fault and it was done.How can this happen when her dog came onto their property?I just cant get over this shit its so fucked up.Then she actually had the nerve to demand my brother pay for her vet bills!When my brither asked how she got Bruiser off her dog she said she just yelled at him and he stoped.WTF?The whole story was a complete load of shit but they bought it just because it was a pit bull involved.I'm so sick over this shit.These hysterical witch hunt has got to end.:( :mad:
I can't get to into this thread for health reasons. I'm gonna pop a vein in my forhead this kind of shit pisses me off so fuc### much. Sorry man really. I feel ya.

[chloesredboy]

I can't get to into this thread for health reasons. I'm gonna pop a vein in my forhead this kind of shit pisses me off so fuc### much. Sorry man really. I feel ya.Thanks,It is fucked up and I'm sure I'll be more pissed off once I'm done crying.

[twiztidpitz]

I had something similar happen with a rescue we had. She was on a leash and grabed a stray cat. Our neighbors, which is family, took it to the vet. I was at work when my husband came in with her collar and told me they had to put her down b/c she was "vicious". OK she killed a stray cat that no one wanted. All they would do to it was kill it too! So, I know how you feel about it. Sorry it had to happen to a good person & dog!

[Bullyson]

Im sorry to hear about your loss. I would call a lawyer and see about a few things if I were you. The whole thing sounds like a bunch of BS to me. People will always find a way to make YOU seem like the one in the wrong if there is a Pit Bull involved.. F**k em and feed em fish guts. Sorry again :(

[chloesredboy]

Im sorry to hear about your loss. I would call a lawyer and see about a few things if I were you. The whole thing sounds like a bunch of BS to me. People will always find a way to make YOU seem like the one in the wrong if there is an APBT involved and he/she belongs to you... F**k em and feed em fish guts. Sorry again :(Well my brother's a painter and one of his clients is a lawyer and he's going to talk to him on monday,the city has actually been sued over shit like this before(putting dogs down before the time limit is up)But It still wont bring my poor boy back ya know?And I will be feeding them something......It takes alot to piss me off but messing with my dogs is one sure way to do it.I'm really just confused and angry about the whole mess.I'm still in shock a little too,I just cant believe they just took her story so full of obvious bullshit all because of what he was?Just blows my mind.

[simms]

Cant save the world. That dogs fate is nolonger one of uncertanty. So was the niebors dog in your brothers yard when animal control showed up? I would demand a copy of the written report.

[ghost 1]

Cant save the world. That dogs fate is nolonger one of uncertanty. So was the niebors dog in your brothers yard when animal control showed up? I would demand a copy of the written report.
i'm sorry but i'm not as free hearted,,, they'd feel my pain,,, they'd wake up to bury there's,,, thats a promise,,,

i'm really a nice guy but there's a few places i draw a stiff line and draw it clearly in the sand,,,cross it and suffer



SORRY FOR YOUR LOSE

[ghost 1]

Today my foster dog Bruiser was killed.He was living with my brother and while evryone was at work his neighbors boxer dug under the fence came into the yard and got into a fight with bruiser.The P.O.S. cow next door called animal control and said that Bruiser had stuck his head through the hole in the fence and drug her dog into my brothers backyard and mauled it.Nevermind my brothers other dog who wasnt hurt was allready back ther with him if he really wanted to maul another dog he could have gotten him much easier.When my brother gets home there is a note on his door from animla control saying Bruiser is being taken to the Animal shelter,of course by the time he gets down ther it is too late for my poor Bruiser.The boxers havea history of attacking each other ,they are known vicious dogs.But,of course none of this was brought out untill it was too late.Animal control responded to her call ,decided it was the killer Pit bull's fault and it was done.How can this happen when her dog came onto their property?I just cant get over this shit its so fucked up.Then she actually had the nerve to demand my brother pay for her vet bills!When my brither asked how she got Bruiser off her dog she said she just yelled at him and he stoped.WTF?The whole story was a complete load of shit but they bought it just because it was a pit bull involved.I'm so sick over this shit.These hysterical witch hunt has got to end.:( :mad:
THESE WITCH HUNTS WON'T EVER STOP BUT YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHICH BATTLES TO FIGHT ANFD THIS ONE IS SIMPLE,,, THE LAW WILL NOT STAND BEHIND YOU THATS ALREADY CLEAR,,,

BRING ON THE PAIN ,,,,, I'M SORRY I WAS JUST RAISED LIKE THIS,,,

[simms]

i'm sorry but i'm not as free hearted,,, they'd feel my pain,,, they'd wake up to bury there's,,, thats a promise,,,

i'm really a nice guy but there's a few places i draw a stiff line and draw it clearly in the sand,,,cross it and suffer



SORRY FOR YOUR LOSEFree hearted...LOL I'm not going to encourage anyone to breake the law in an open forum.

[ghost 1]

Free hearted...LOL I'm not going to encourage anyone to breake the law in an open forum.

LMAO SIMMS,,

I KNOW I JUST COULDN'T HELP MYSELF,,,

[chloesredboy]

Cant save the world. That dogs fate is nolonger one of uncertanty. So was the niebors dog in your brothers yard when animal control showed up? I would demand a copy of the written report.yeah it was back there and We're going to call A.C. tomorrow and my husbands a sheriff so we will be doing some researching of laws pertaining to this kind of thing.And I know You cant save them all,but I've had this dog for five months and have grown very attached to him.Also it's the princible of the whole thing.If the dog had done something wrong and outwardly vicious then It wouldnt be a problem,but the whole story is just BullShit.How on earth would the dog dig a hole,go into the neighbors yard,grab the boxer drag it through the hole and drag it into my brothers yard to maul it?I mean really.These people are BYB,this particular dog has killed another one of their dogs and a couple of it's own pups.The people who used to live next door on the otherside of them tried to poison the dogs before because they were afraid of them and A.C. wouldnt do anything about it,Their piece of shit cur came onto someone elses property ,picked a fight and got fucked up and they're acting like victims.Bruiser was just protecting his territory.This dog was such a wuss I had to give him to my brother because my 30lb female was whippin his ass all the time,he would just roll over and give up.At any given time you can hear those dogs next door tearing the shit out of each other.The people have too many and they dont know how to handle them.It's just disgusting,playing poor innocent little victim just so you dont have to pay for the vet bills.The bitch never said she wanted to prosecute untill the A.C. officer made her take the dog to the vet.All she cared about was money.The goddamn dog had just killed it's two day old pups the night before!But our dog was the vicious one just because he was A"pit bull".That one A.C. officer took it upon herself to be the judge which is crap because here you are supposed to be allowed a hearing before a judge to see if the dog should be decalred vicious.It's all just a fucked up situation and that bitch is going to pay for that shit one way or another.

[simms]

LMAO SIMMS,,

I KNOW I JUST COULDN'T HELP MYSELF,,,
LOL........:)

[ghost 1]

Actually,,, Give It A Day Or Two And Cool Off Then Make Your Decisions On The Actions That Need To Be Takin

[Searcy Jeff]

I am sorry for your loss. I'm speechless. I don't know where to begin. :(

[simms]

yeah it was back there and We're going to call A.C. tomorrow and my husbands a sheriff so we will be doing some researching of laws pertaining to this kind of thing.And I know You cant save them all,but I've had this dog for five months and have grown very attached to him.Also it's the princible of the whole thing.If the dog had done something wrong and outwardly vicious then It wouldnt be a problem,but the whole story is just BullShit.How on earth would the dog dig a hole,go into the neighbors yard,grab the boxer drag it through the hole and drag it into my brothers yard to maul it?I mean really.These people are BYB,this particular dog has killed another one of their dogs and a couple of it's own pups.The people who used to live next door on the otherside of them tried to poison the dogs before because they were afraid of them and A.C. wouldnt do anything about it,Their piece of shit cur came onto someone elses property ,picked a fight and got fucked up and they're acting like victims.Bruiser was just protecting his territory.This dog was such a wuss I had to give him to my brother because my 30lb female was whippin his ass all the time,he would just roll over and give up.At any given time you can hear those dogs next door tearing the shit out of each other.The people have too many and they dont know how to handle them.It's just disgusting,playing poor innocent little victim just so you dont have to pay for the vet bills.The bitch never said she wanted to prosecute untill the A.C. officer made her take the dog to the vet.All she cared about was money.The goddamn dog had just killed it's two day old pups the night before!But our dog was the vicious one just because he was A"pit bull".That one A.C. officer took it upon herself to be the judge which is crap because here you are supposed to be allowed a hearing before a judge to see if the dog should be decalred vicious.It's all just a fucked up situation and that bitch is going to pay for that shit one way or another.
Sounds like you have a law suit.....

[chloesredboy]

Sounds like you have a law suit.....I hope so,nothing gets me going like injustice.Even if they get a slap on the hand I just want them to know they cant get away with the shit and hopefully get rid of trhose mongrels before something else happens.Self righteous pieces of shit.Sorry for going on so much ,just before I was just sad,now i'm getting pissed.

[ghost 1]

I hope so,nothing gets me going like injustice.Even if they get a slap on the hand I just want them to know they cant get away with the shit and hopefully get rid of trhose mongrels before something else happens.Self righteous pieces of shit.Sorry for going on so much ,just before I was just sad,now i'm getting pissed.it helps to vent ,,, and get it out,,, I have to agree the worst thing in the world is the injuustice brought about just cause (its a pit bull),,, my dogs are like family the ones i chose to keep around

[Beastmaster]

Today my foster dog Bruiser was killed.He was living with my brother and while evryone was at work his neighbors boxer dug under the fence came into the yard and got into a fight with bruiser.The P.O.S. cow next door called animal control and said that Bruiser had stuck his head through the hole in the fence and drug her dog into my brothers backyard and mauled it.Nevermind my brothers other dog who wasnt hurt was allready back ther with him if he really wanted to maul another dog he could have gotten him much easier.When my brother gets home there is a note on his door from animla control saying Bruiser is being taken to the Animal shelter,of course by the time he gets down ther it is too late for my poor Bruiser.The boxers havea history of attacking each other ,they are known vicious dogs.But,of course none of this was brought out untill it was too late.Animal control responded to her call ,decided it was the killer Pit bull's fault and it was done.How can this happen when her dog came onto their property?I just cant get over this shit its so fucked up.Then she actually had the nerve to demand my brother pay for her vet bills!When my brither asked how she got Bruiser off her dog she said she just yelled at him and he stoped.WTF?The whole story was a complete load of shit but they bought it just because it was a pit bull involved.I'm so sick over this shit.These hysterical witch hunt has got to end.:( :mad:sorry for the lost. the way things sound it seems like you might have you three lawsuits. against A.C>, the officer < and your neighbors for lying. hope you don't let it go without doing anything. thats the least you can do for yourself and your dog

[rocco]

hmmmm all i can say is anti-freeze.........

[ABK]

OK, questions here ... everyone was supposedly at work. So who knows what really happened?? Who's to say what the lady said wasn't true? Maybe the pit bull (or the boxer) did stick their head through a hole in the fence & the boxer got pulled into the yard & mauled.

As for the PB having another dog he could get to, so what?? I know of many PBs who will tolorate their housemate, but will attack a strange dog at a drop of a hat. So if the boxer poked it's head through, it is very possible the PB could have attacked it & drug it though as stated.

Or on the other hand, if the PB poked his head through the hole like she said it did, the boxer may have bitten it, a fence fight ensued & the PB dragged the boxer through the fence to finish the job.

But even if that is the case, you can't blame the boxer, as most dogs will defend their property. So I would not find it unsual for a dog to bite the face of a strange dog who pokes it's head through the fence.

Furthermore, where did this idea that boxers are "vicious" come from??? That's the biggest load of baloney I have ever heard. I have met many boxers & all of them were very nice dogs to both ppl & animals. I did meet one that was a little over protective of his family, but I would no way call him "vicious."

As for the boxer eating her pups, again, that does NOT make her vicious. It is not unsual for a bitch to eat her pups if the pup is sick or she is nervous. In fact I have heard of many, many more cases of PBs eating pups than I have any other breed & we all know the average PB is NOT vicious.

I think there is more here than meets the eye. Just as all the PB haters like to automatically assume we are all guilty, we on the other hand as PB lovers like to assume all our dogs are spotless little angels who could do no wrong.

I hate to break your bubble folks but this is not the case. As I heard it said once, no matter how flat you make a pancake, there are ALWAYS two sides ...

JMHO ...

[PirbulBongo]

Sorry for your loss, im sure someday they'll pay for all this. Be sure they'll pay....

[dogged]

I am so sorry for your loss. My heart goes out to you. Your neighbor is real piece of work, I hope she gets what's coming to her one way or another. Karma's a bitch.

[lockjaw]

sorry for your loss.

[Grim]

Sorry to hear about that. This is why I keep my dogs inside when I am gone and all kenneled up. You can't trust anyone. Anyone can also just toss some poisoned food for your dogs because they know it's a pit bull. luckily animal enforcement in my area openly states on their web site that breed discrimination is not allowed in my county. They also have told me personally if my dogs tear apart the neighbors cats that I will not be held liable for anything. The way I see it if a cat or dog comes onto your property your dogs are not responsible for what happens to them. Last I checked there are no laws saying a dog can not defend itself on its property. I also would like to know who gave them permission tot ake the dog usually they must give you 24 hours assuming the dog was safely confined. It all sounds messed up I think you can get justice take pictures of the fence of which direction the hole started and gather any evidence to back you up.

[AMJULIETTE]

[QUOTE=rocco]hmmmm all i can say is anti-freeze.........[/Q

Sorry about your loss and even more sorry your brother has a bitch for
a neighbor!
And maybe the pit did pull the boxer through the fence, but still no matter
what happened they had no right to take the dog and put it to sleep
before there was proof. I would look into it as well.
You said the boxer had just eaten pups, did she still have some alive and
maybe she had them close to the fence and was trying to be a defensive mother, still no excusevor her to be own your bro property but maybe she did go thru and the pit was protecting its property as well.
You never know but I would not just take it without finding out because if
we lay down they will use whatever they can against us to kill our babies.

[simms]

[QUOTE=rocco]hmmmm all i can say is anti-freeze.........[/Q



Yeah to the neighbor!! Stupid people should be shot!!!
I would try and make her life hell.

Sorry about your loss and even more sorry your brother has a bitch for
a neighbor!

I wouldnt encourage ppl in an open forum to go around poisoning ppls animals. Not to mention that antifreeze is a slow and painful death. There are other methods to rid of vermon.

The Op stated that this is a dog that she placed the dog was not in her care. Granted the dog was placed with someone that is trusted...but should that APBT been allowed to run a fenced back yard? With a little deductive reasoning ....your answer should be NO!

The intentions were meant well......but this situation provided for this animal was set up to fail. I hope that this is a lesson learned for the OP and for those that read this thread and chime in on it.

It sucks!

[Lethalpits]

Just wanted to chime in and say sorry for your loss..

Also, would never recommend anyone to antifreeze an animal. That may be the worst way I've seen a dog die. My oldest female (Hollywood) was poisoned with anti freeze about a month ago. Never ever ever ever poison a dog like that!

BTW we also had a problem with our neighbors because their chihuahua mix got into our yard and got mauled. They wanted to say it was our fault but the hole in the fence was only big enough for a small dog to get through. Wrong yard for that thing. Now one of my females is dead, though. So... we haven't confronted them yet but I think their son hates my dogs.

[CynthiaATL]

I am so sorry for your loss. I would talk to a lawyer. Also ABK I HAVE met a quite a few very vicious Boxers in my dealings with them. I have also met sweet ones. So just like most breeds you can have either or.

[Suki]

VERY sorry to be reading about this. and i agree, i have handled some pretty nasty boxers in my time. ANY breed has the propensity to be dangerous/violent.

that being said, i'm sad about your loss, and i all can hope for is the truth to be exposed and the rightful justice served.
i would contact a lawyer as well~doesn't hurt to see exactly what your rights are.
BEST of luck to you.
and again, VERY sorry.

[jaystreetsA4]

sorry to hear bout this. sucks. :(

[chloesredboy]

OK, questions here ... everyone was supposedly at work. So who knows what really happened?? Who's to say what the lady said wasn't true? Maybe the pit bull (or the boxer) did stick their head through a hole in the fence & the boxer got pulled into the yard & mauled.

As for the PB having another dog he could get to, so what?? I know of many PBs who will tolorate their housemate, but will attack a strange dog at a drop of a hat. So if the boxer poked it's head through, it is very possible the PB could have attacked it & drug it though as stated.

Or on the other hand, if the PB poked his head through the hole like she said it did, the boxer may have bitten it, a fence fight ensued & the PB dragged the boxer through the fence to finish the job.

But even if that is the case, you can't blame the boxer, as most dogs will defend their property. So I would not find it unsual for a dog to bite the face of a strange dog who pokes it's head through the fence.

Furthermore, where did this idea that boxers are "vicious" come from??? That's the biggest load of baloney I have ever heard. I have met many boxers & all of them were very nice dogs to both ppl & animals. I did meet one that was a little over protective of his family, but I would no way call him "vicious."

As for the boxer eating her pups, again, that does NOT make her vicious. It is not unsual for a bitch to eat her pups if the pup is sick or she is nervous. In fact I have heard of many, many more cases of PBs eating pups than I have any other breed & we all know the average PB is NOT vicious.

I think there is more here than meets the eye. Just as all the PB haters like to automatically assume we are all guilty, we on the other hand as PB lovers like to assume all our dogs are spotless little angels who could do no wrong.

I hate to break your bubble folks but this is not the case. As I heard it said once, no matter how flat you make a pancake, there are ALWAYS two sides ...

JMHO ...You know what ,I will probably get banned for this shit but I just dont give a fuck.How dare you .You dont know what the fuck you are talking about."The hole was not even big enough for Bruiser to fit through much less two dogs at once.I never said boxers as a breed are vicious ,just these ones.And i'ts not so much the dog fight as it is the fact that they found my dog guilty based on one crazy bitch's lies.The point is ,the dog should not have been put down without a trial first.That is the law here.I never said my dog was an angel ,he may have tore that other dog up,but the point is It was on his property.That is the fucked up part of the whole mess,the neighbor admitted her dog went into the yard,animal control found her dog in the yard.But instead of taking both dogs in they just assume it was the pit bull take him ,kill him and it's done.The dog did not drag the dog into it's yard that is the stupidest shit I've evr heard,Also ,these particular neighbors are so paranoid they have cameras all around their house,but miraculously when my brother went over there this morning to ask her about any recording of the fight,that particular camera was broken.Yeah fucking right.So you know what my fucking dog just got killed for no reason and you are here talking shit very nice.Why dont you take your "baloney" and shove it in your fucking mouth so we dont have to listen to it!

[chloesredboy]

Sorry to hear about that. This is why I keep my dogs inside when I am gone and all kenneled up. You can't trust anyone. Anyone can also just toss some poisoned food for your dogs because they know it's a pit bull. luckily animal enforcement in my area openly states on their web site that breed discrimination is not allowed in my county. They also have told me personally if my dogs tear apart the neighbors cats that I will not be held liable for anything. The way I see it if a cat or dog comes onto your property your dogs are not responsible for what happens to them. Last I checked there are no laws saying a dog can not defend itself on its property. I also would like to know who gave them permission tot ake the dog usually they must give you 24 hours assuming the dog was safely confined. It all sounds messed up I think you can get justice take pictures of the fence of which direction the hole started and gather any evidence to back you up.They do have the right to seize a an animla they might think is dangerous,but ,they are suppposed to hold the animal for 72 hours before ant action is taken to give the owner time to claim it.They are using the whole bit about Bruiser digging under the fence and pulling the dog through into his yard then mauling it.That is about the stupidest shit I've ever heard.There werre four other dogs back there too ,why would he have just grabed one and taken it back into his yard the whole thing is ludacris especially considering the size of the hole.We will be talking to a lawyer on monday.We really arent trying to go after the neighbor so much as A.C. due to the fact they killed him as soon as they got back to the shelter with him.They have been sued over this exact thing before ,so we'll see what happens.

[Suki]

exactly what i was thinking=there should have been a hold time....

[DryCreek]

chloesredboy

Do you have a camera? Is the hole still there?

When a dog digs, it throws the dirt behind it so if there is a pile of loose dirt on the neighbors side of the fence it shows her dog dug the hole. If it's on your brothers yard, Bruiser did the digging.

It would help your case if you could have pictures proving who's dog did the digging....

Just an added thought. A dog that is chained away from a fence can't be blamed for anything.....

[chloesredboy]

exactly what i was thinking=there should have been a hold time....They have been known to do this fairly often.A couple summeers ago A man brought a law suit against the city because they picked up his 12 year old lab while he was at work.Just like with us,he got home that same day and found a note on his door,when he went to get his dog it was too late.It was really sad to see this grown man on t.v. crying over his dog.There was a big outrage about it and he did win his law suit ,but all he got was the 500$ he paid for his dog.In the end he donated the money to the Humane society(different org than the A.C. here).

[chloesredboy]

chloesredboy

Do you have a camera? Is the hole still there?

When a dog digs, it throws the dirt behind it so if there is a pile of loose dirt on the neighbors side of the fence it shows her dog dug the hole. If it's on your brothers yard, Bruiser did the digging.

It would help your case if you could have pictures proving who's dog did the digging....

Just an added thought. A dog that is chained away from a fence can't be blamed for anything.....They were both digging.Thats why it's so fucked up,this is not a case of innocent dog attacked by vicious pit bull.It is two dogs got into a fight and the owner didnt want to take responsiblitie for her dog .So they got into a fight,dogs do that.If they had to take my dog for quarantine,fine.But,they should have taken both dogs.Both fought,both were guilty.It just so happens one dog is pit bull so they dont give a damn about the truth and just assume it was all the pit bulls doing.And that Bitch kknows damn well her dog was just as guilty but instead of taking resposabilitie she makes up some ridiculous story to save her owm ass from having to pay for her dogs vet bills.If she would havr just told the truth I would have taken her dog to my clinic along with Bruiser and got them both fixed up.Dogs fight,shit happens,and a lesson is learned by all.Both parties would be more carefull about their dogs in the future.But she saw a pit bull and a chance to play a dramatic victim role.

[simms]

chloesredboy

Do you have a camera? Is the hole still there?

When a dog digs, it throws the dirt behind it so if there is a pile of loose dirt on the neighbors side of the fence it shows her dog dug the hole. If it's on your brothers yard, Bruiser did the digging.

It would help your case if you could have pictures proving who's dog did the digging....

Just an added thought. A dog that is chained away from a fence can't be blamed for anything.....

Just an added thought. A dog that is chained away from a fence can't be blamed for anything..... ..............

[ABK]

Chloe: How dare I what? How dare I bring up legitimate questions instead of kissing your butt w/ "Oh, poor you" condolances?

The fact of the matter is, if Bruiser was chained or kenneled this would have never happened. As a previous poster said, leaving a PB free in a backyard is just inviting trouble b/c even if another dog comes into the yard, the PB will be blamed - just like it has been here.

But a dog securely contained - i.e. chained or kenneld in a fenced backyard - is not likely to be blamed.

Some poeple look at me like I am crazy but my guys are in a privacy fenced back yard, in kennels & on chains IN those kennels! That way:

1. they are not going to escape

&

2. I am going to get blamed for any mess.

But where was Bruiser?? Not on a chain. Not in a kennel. From what I understand of your posts, he was loose in the backyard left to get into trouble, which is exactly what he did. And from what I understand of your posts he was running loose w/ 4 other dogs?? That is asking for double helping of trouble.

And speaking of the other dogs, again, that means little. I have seen & even owned PBs who will live pleasantly w/ a housemate but fight a strange dog. So the fact that Bruiser had other dogs in the yard w/ him carries zero weight w/ me.

Now I don't know exactly what went down as I was not there, but I have seen PBs drag other dogs through holes so small I wouldn't have believed it had I not seen it.

Then when a fight breaks out one dog will get on another then the other dogs who are in the yard join in & get on the down dog.

But anyway ... as a previous poster has said - has the hole been examined? How about the fence? Both will show who dug where.

As for the boxer comment, you were right, I misread what you wrote. I thought you said "boxers have a history of attacking each other" not "THE boxers have a hisotry of attacking each other." For that I apologize.

Now I do agree there should have been a holding time as well as a hearing to see what exactly went down. But the fact is - & we all know this - as PB owners we are guilty until proven innocent. Bruiser should have been more securely kept. He wasn't & he was killed as a result. Bad? Yes. By all means. But we should not be all squalling "poor me" when this could have been prevented. :(

And BTW, I hope your bro DOES sue the AC office. They need to learn a lesson too!

Cynthia & Suki: I am sure there ARE some mean boxers out there. But as you noted there are mean dogs in every breed. But as a whole I would not call the boxer breed "vicious."

JMHO ...

[CynthiaATL]

Furthermore, where did this idea that boxers are "vicious" come from??? That's the biggest load of baloney I have ever heard. I have met many boxers & all of them were very nice dogs to both ppl & animals. I did meet one that was a little over protective of his family, but I would no way call him "vicious."
I was responding to the way you worded this phrase. The way it came across to me was that Boxers are never vicious. If I took it wrong I aplogize. I was just pointing out that I have dealt with probably 100s of boxers in and out of work and I have dealt with ALOT if HA ones. And honestly I would say it is about a 60/40 split that 60% were friendly and the rest were HA. That is just my experience.

Now as far as the situation in a whole. Yes mistakes were made on both parts. But AC should not have euth a dog off top. That is the problem I have. 2 dogs got in a fight. Dogs no human was hurt (from what I read). That is not a reason to euth a dog.

[ABK]

Cynthia - it may be too that we are in different parts of the country. I have noticed for whatever reason that in some areas of the country some dogs are more over bred than others & thus more substandard dogs can be put out.

In Ohio where I grew up I never, ever met a "vicious" boxer. As mentioned before I did meet one who would bite you on the rear end if we played too rough, but I would hardly consider him vicious.

I have not worked in a vet office, but I did work at a boarding kennel & during my time here in Mississippi I have met a few boxers & not a one of them was mean. In fact, they were all sweethearts. I guess I have just been lucky! ;)

As for the OP, I agree the dog should not have been PTS, at least not w/o an invesitgation to see what went on. Like I said before, I hope her bro sues as that AC needs to be taught a lesson! :mad:

[chloesredboy]

Chloe: How dare I what? How dare I bring up legitimate questions instead of kissing your butt w/ "Oh, poor you" condolances?

The fact of the matter is, if Bruiser was chained or kenneled this would have never happened. As a previous poster said, leaving a PB free in a backyard is just inviting trouble b/c even if another dog comes into the yard, the PB will be blamed - just like it has been here.

But a dog securely contained - i.e. chained or kenneld in a fenced backyard - is not likely to be blamed.

Some poeple look at me like I am crazy but my guys are in a privacy fenced back yard, in kennels & on chains IN those kennels! That way:

1. they are not going to escape

&

2. I am going to get blamed for any mess.

But where was Bruiser?? Not on a chain. Not in a kennel. From what I understand of your posts, he was loose in the backyard left to get into trouble, which is exactly what he did. And from what I understand of your posts he was running loose w/ 4 other dogs?? That is asking for double helping of trouble.

And speaking of the other dogs, again, that means little. I have seen & even owned PBs who will live pleasantly w/ a housemate but fight a strange dog. So the fact that Bruiser had other dogs in the yard w/ him carries zero weight w/ me.

Now I don't know exactly what went down as I was not there, but I have seen PBs drag other dogs through holes so small I wouldn't have believed it had I not seen it.

Then when a fight breaks out one dog will get on another then the other dogs who are in the yard join in & get on the down dog.

But anyway ... as a previous poster has said - has the hole been examined? How about the fence? Both will show who dug where.

As for the boxer comment, you were right, I misread what you wrote. I thought you said "boxers have a history of attacking each other" not "THE boxers have a hisotry of attacking each other." For that I apologize.

Now I do agree there should have been a holding time as well as a hearing to see what exactly went down. But the fact is - & we all know this - as PB owners we are guilty until proven innocent. Bruiser should have been more securely kept. He wasn't & he was killed as a result. Bad? Yes. By all means. But we should not be all squalling "poor me" when this could have been prevented. :(

And BTW, I hope your bro DOES sue the AC office. They need to learn a lesson too!

Cynthia & Suki: I am sure there ARE some mean boxers out there. But as you noted there are mean dogs in every breed. But as a whole I would not call the boxer breed "vicious."

JMHO ... no I dont want anyone to feel sorry for me,It's the poor dog that got the shitty end of the deal.And their were four dogs in the other backyard,four other boxers.And yes we are partially to blame for the whole thing,just as the people next door are.My dog is jusr as guilty as theirs ,I'm not mad about the fight,I'm mad that they took my dog and killed it over a fucking dog fight!I'm mad that my dog was guilty and condemned to die.You cant tell me that if a dog came into your yard,got eaten,and your dog got blamed for the whole situation and killed ,while the other dog was treated as a poor victim of a vicious killer monster,even though the other dog had just as much guilt in the situation ,you wouldn't be outraged?BOTH dogs were guilty,BOTH fought but,they just assume it was all the pit bulls doing it's just fucking sick!Bruiser should have been on chain,but,then again their dog should have too and their just getting off scott free playing the victims of the killer pit bull bullshit.It is shit like this that makes people afraid of pit bulls and gets all this bsl shit going,nevermind the boxer came onto our property and got into a fight,all that matters is that it was a pit bull involved and that makes him guilty just because of what he is?And it is LAW here that a dog must be declared vicious by a judge and even then,It's not an automatic death sentance,you just have to follow dangerous dog guidlines from then on,which I woul have done without a problem.I just dont understand how peole can get away with shit like this,even if we do file a lawsuit againsr the city,it wont bring my dog back.And if they must kill my dog why dont they kill the other one ?It was the one who came onto our property.And I know,Iknow this is how it always is with our dogs but the shit just kills me.It's like a witch hunt out of control and I just wonder how many innocent animals are going to be destroyed before it stops.

[ABK]

Oh, yeah, if a dog came into my yard & got killed & they took my dog & killed it, I'd be furious. There is no doubt about that, esp. if the person w/ the loose dog off scot free. That is why I said I hope your bro sues the AC office for every red cent they have!!!!!

I had just got the impression by your first few posts that you were blaming everybody else, when everyone (to include your brother) had a hand in the matter. That's the only thing I was pointing out.

And I was wondering how you came to the conclusion of what happened since you said everyone was at work. I would assume the there was no one there to see what happened? Or was the neighbor home?

But if they did to my dog what they did to your brother's, I'd be calling a lawyer pronto!

Oh & if it makes you feel any better, it's not always a pit bull thing - years ago a cat went into our yard & my Chow/Lab mix killed it. The AC deemed him "vicious" as well. Luckily they had the "one free bite" rule so they didn't take him away, but my mom ended up having to pay a special permit just to keep him all b/c he killed a trespassing stray cat. :(

[chloesredboy]

Cynthia - it may be too that we are in different parts of the country. I have noticed for whatever reason that in some areas of the country some dogs are more over bred than others & thus more substandard dogs can be put out.

In Ohio where I grew up & never, ever met a "vicious" boxer. As mentioned before I did meet one who would bite you on the rear end if we played too rough, but I would hardly consider him vicious.

I have not worked in a vet office, but I did work at a boarding kennel & during my time here in Mississippi I have met a few boxers & not a one of them was mean. In fact, they were all sweethearts. I guess I have just been lucky! ;)

As for the OP, I agree the dog should not have been PTS, at least not w/o an invesitgation to see what went on. Like I said before, I hope her bro sues as that AC needs to be taught a lesson! :mad:Thes particular dogs are very aggressive and they breed them like crazy,Pretty much evryone in the neighborhood has one of their pups.And yes they are sub par animals,bred by puppy peddlars for money.They are not good dogs and certainly not dogs you would want passed on as example's of good boxers.If you walk by their fence or even in my bro backyard and they see or hear you they eill liunge against the fence then turn on each other till the owners have to come out and s[pray them with those hose.They are just unsocialized aggressinve dogs that are made to breed constantly.like a damn puppy mill,they never come out of their backyard ever.When people come to look at pups the adult dogs have to be locked down because they will bite.They have to take the pups away from the one dog asap so she wont kill them.And this isnt just getting rid of newborns like some dogs do,she killed two of her last litter over food when the pups were about eight weeks old.So you see,these damn dogs are just as viciuos as any "pit bull" and thats part of the reason I'm so irate about the whole thing.The pot calling the kettle black.

[chloesredboy]

Oh, yeah, if a dog came into my yard & got killed & they took my dog & killed it, I'd be furious. There is no doubt about that, esp. if the person w/ the loose dog off scot free. That is why I said I hope your bro sues the AC office for every red cent they have!!!!!

I had just got the impression by your first few posts that you were blaming everybody else, when everyone (to include your brother) had a hand in the matter. That's the only thing I was pointing out.

And I was wondering how you came to the conclusion of what happened since you said everyone was at work. I would assume the there was no one there to see what happened? Or was the neighbor home?

But if they did to my dog what they did to your brother's, I'd be calling a lawyer pronto!

Oh & if it makes you feel any better, it's not always a pit bull thing - years ago a cat went into our yard & my Chow/Lab mix killed it. The AC deemed him "vicious" as well. Luckily they had the "one free bite" rule so they didn't take him away, but my mom ended up having to pay a special permit just to keep him all b/c he killed a trespassing stray cat. :(They were pulling up and heard the noise of the dogs fighting,and she just decided that Bruiser had drug her dog through the hole cuz there was no way her innocent dog had willingly got into a fight,so she didnt see waht happened just drew her own conclusions that kept her out of trouble and she just got to talk to A.C. first.And that shit about the cat is just insane to say the least.Dogs killing cats is vicious:rolleyes: My moms lab has eaten a million cats that have had the misfortune of coming into her yard.And here ,chows get the same treatment as pit bulls ,so i'm not surprised.

[ABK]

How horrible. But like my daddy said "if you give someone enough rope, they'll hang themselves." It will only be a matter of time before one of those dogs hurts them or someone else & then they'll be feeling the bite.

[chloesredboy]

How horrible. But like my daddy said "if you give someone enough rope, they'll hang themselves." It will only be a matter of time before one of those dogs hurts them or someone else & then they'll be feeling the bite.yeah,I'ts just a matter of time before they get out again and their next encounter might not be with a pit bull who can defend its self.Next time it might be the chow chow back there and ther is no doubt the dog would die.

[ABK]

Or it might get back into your bro's yard while he is there & he might have to shoot the dog in self-defense. Just make sure he shoots it in the front of the head, not the back! lol. ;)

[concreterose]

I am so sorry for your loss:(

[Suki]

Granted filing a suit won't bring your dog back (yup, THAT does suck) but!

you just may help to pave the way for the next owner this may happen to~as, it'll all be 'on the books', and your particular case could be used as a reference point, so, think of it in terms of helping the next "pit bull" owner, who shouldn't have to be going thru this shit. Trust me, I feel for you. I would be SOOOO past the point of irrate right now, if i were you, and i'll probably ask someone to lock me up, cuz i'd just be plain crazed!!!!!
and
was wondering, does your dog have any history that can used against it? i.e.was he ever deemed to be "danerous" or have a past history of any sort?
j/c
could also work in your favor, if none.
again, sorry.....

[ghost 1]

Chloe: How dare I what? How dare I bring up legitimate questions instead of kissing your butt w/ "Oh, poor you" condolances?

The fact of the matter is, if Bruiser was chained or kenneled this would have never happened. As a previous poster said, leaving a PB free in a backyard is just inviting trouble b/c even if another dog comes into the yard, the PB will be blamed - just like it has been here.

But a dog securely contained - i.e. chained or kenneld in a fenced backyard - is not likely to be blamed.

Some poeple look at me like I am crazy but my guys are in a privacy fenced back yard, in kennels & on chains IN those kennels! That way:

1. they are not going to escape

&

2. I am going to get blamed for any mess.

But where was Bruiser?? Not on a chain. Not in a kennel. From what I understand of your posts, he was loose in the backyard left to get into trouble, which is exactly what he did. And from what I understand of your posts he was running loose w/ 4 other dogs?? That is asking for double helping of trouble.

And speaking of the other dogs, again, that means little. I have seen & even owned PBs who will live pleasantly w/ a housemate but fight a strange dog. So the fact that Bruiser had other dogs in the yard w/ him carries zero weight w/ me.

Now I don't know exactly what went down as I was not there, but I have seen PBs drag other dogs through holes so small I wouldn't have believed it had I not seen it.

Then when a fight breaks out one dog will get on another then the other dogs who are in the yard join in & get on the down dog.

But anyway ... as a previous poster has said - has the hole been examined? How about the fence? Both will show who dug where.

As for the boxer comment, you were right, I misread what you wrote. I thought you said "boxers have a history of attacking each other" not "THE boxers have a hisotry of attacking each other." For that I apologize.

Now I do agree there should have been a holding time as well as a hearing to see what exactly went down. But the fact is - & we all know this - as PB owners we are guilty until proven innocent. Bruiser should have been more securely kept. He wasn't & he was killed as a result. Bad? Yes. By all means. But we should not be all squalling "poor me" when this could have been prevented. :(

And BTW, I hope your bro DOES sue the AC office. They need to learn a lesson too!

Cynthia & Suki: I am sure there ARE some mean boxers out there. But as you noted there are mean dogs in every breed. But as a whole I would not call the boxer breed "vicious."

JMHO ...
now ABK if i come home and my dog was in his pen and another dog was in it dead then it was in the wrong place,,
not at fault of my dogs,, much less putting mine down for killing it,,,
in my opinion i'd fix it,,,
i don't care how you look at it or how the other dog got there if it was on my property then they are at fault,,,

pitbull or not,,, i can't help other ppl not secureing there dogs but i know mine are secure and won't get out,,,

[chloesredboy]

Granted filing a suit won't bring your dog back (yup, THAT does suck) but!

you just may help to pave the way for the next owner this may happen to~as, it'll all be 'on the books', and your particular case could be used as a reference point, so, think of it in terms of helping the next "pit bull" owner, who shouldn't have to be going thru this shit. Trust me, I feel for you. I would be SOOOO past the point of irrate right now, if i were you, and i'll probably ask someone to lock me up, cuz i'd just be plain crazed!!!!!
and
was wondering, does your dog have any history that can used against it? i.e.was he ever deemed to be "danerous" or have a past history of any sort?
j/c
could also work in your favor, if none.
again, sorry.....Well thats a good way to look at it and since it's happened before maybe something will be done about it this time.And no,he never had a past of being agressive or anything negative about him so I'll see what happens monday when we can talk to a lawyer.LOL,believe me if it werent for some little yellow pills I probably would be crazed by now.

[ghost 1]

women are crazy anyway,,,,,lmao ,,,lmao,lmao

and ppl wonder why men are the way they are,,,:D :D

[chloesredboy]

women are crazy anyway,,,,,lmao ,,,lmao,lmao

and ppl wonder why men are the way they are,,,:D :DLOL,yeah right,men make us crazy,and just for the record we dont wonder why men are the way they are,We allready know that,much like everything else in the world!

[ghost 1]

LOL,yeah right,men make us crazy,and just for the record we dont wonder why men are the way they are,We allready know that,much like everything else in the world!
lmao,,, see ya'll think ya'll know what we think,,, only if ya'll really knew,,, ya might be surprized,,, don't get me wrong we might ocassionally have a bad thought,,,lmao,,, maybe one or two,,;) :D

[realonebulldog]

I can't get to into this thread for health reasons. I'm gonna pop a vein in my forhead this kind of shit pisses me off so fuc### much. Sorry man really. I feel ya. Exactly my thougts. That s h i t makes me sick. If 2 dogs fight they will kill ouer choice of dogs. However, many dogs are extremely aggressive but this is no matter ... our dogs they are always those which ones are killed. Pays attention to your dogs, we are surrounded by foolishness!!!