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Lethalpits
04-30-2007, 02:11 AM
Well, my pup fever's been cured. Been waitin for a while now. Much thanks to ole' man Cobra for this fine bulldog. She definately got my attention! She's still warmin up to us at the house but she'll come around. Boudreaux/Nigerino/Chinaman dog with a lil Bolio.

Decided to call her my Dark Angel for now. Will probably just call her Angel.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k106/lethalceo/darkangel.jpg

Still a lil shady
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k106/lethalceo/angelstand.jpg


http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=179119




CrazyK9
04-30-2007, 03:27 AM
Maybe I'm wrong but isn't there as much, if not more, Alligator in that dog than Bolio?

Congrats. So... does this mean you are moving on to gamedogs now instead of breeding your Staff? Or is that still in your plans?

Scotsman
04-30-2007, 04:32 AM
I was looking at those pups too they are bred really nice. The Bolio is through Frisco so that doesn't count, since Frisco was a Chinaman/Bolio cross.

Lethalpits
04-30-2007, 10:46 AM
Crazy- I'm probably sticking to game dogs. I'm meeting too many good people and dogman that have changed my perspective to turn back now. My show dogs will probably just stay that, my show dogs.I like my original dogs no doubt. I'll probably just use Maximus and my other female to EDIT: 'teach other the younger dogs how to work' with.

Scotsman- That Vince's T-Bone dog in the 4th is 3/4 Bolio 1/4 Chinaman dog.

I'm not really a big fan on Frisco or Budweiser, but the guy I got her from said Garner's Simba was a game dog and Budweiser is a producer. But I love the top side. This was a repeat breeding I inquired about the first one but that was over a year ago. Then I got a call! Ole man is a good guy. If she turns out right we'll be doing more business.

jeeperino
04-30-2007, 10:59 AM
Bolio and Alligator?? There is a lil bit of bolio in there, Ill give u that. A lil Alligator too. But, in all honesty you are looking too far back and too deep. <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=1><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=center align=middle>PEDIGREE STATISTICS
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Chef-Kergin
04-30-2007, 11:11 AM
Crazy- I'm probably sticking to game dogs. I'm meeting too many good people and dogman that have changed my perspective to turn back now. My show dogs will probably just stay that, my show dogs.I like my original dogs no doubt. I'll probably just use Maximus and my other female to school with.
Use them to school what?

Lethalpits
04-30-2007, 11:11 AM
Yea. Really if you look at the bigger picture she's pure Eli dog.

Lethalpits
04-30-2007, 11:14 AM
Use them to school what?
EDITED FOR CONTENT IN CASE SOME ONE GETS THE WRONG IDEA OF MY TERMINOLOGY.

Chef-Kergin
04-30-2007, 11:16 AM
My ole' blue might be a scatterbred but he showed me and some other kennel buds that he's still got bulldog in him. Like I said I'll just him in gettin the younger ones started.
i hope that works out well for you. do you plan on snippin his balls off now that he won't be bred?

good luck with your new pup. hopefully she warms up to you quickly.

purplepig
04-30-2007, 11:49 AM
My ole' blue might be a scatterbred but he showed me and some other kennel buds that he's still got bulldog in him. Like I said I'll just him in gettin the younger ones started.
Congatulations on the pup... But this statement put a sick feeling into my stomach as it reeks with ignorance. Maybe you should go to school before you try and take a pup to school. Blind leading the blind ya know? Sad thing is, that pup knows more about what she needs than you do at this point. Not saying you dont have the capacity to learn, but the fact is you need to learn before you can do.

Lethalpits
04-30-2007, 12:34 PM
Another picture! Finally got her to eat and drink, but still ain't seen her empty out(unless she did it in the house).

She's very shy and curious. I've tried toys, treats and another puppy but she looks at me like I'm crazy. Any tips?

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k106/lethalceo/Darkangelstand.jpg

Lethalpits
04-30-2007, 12:39 PM
Congatulations on the pup... But this statement put a sick feeling into my stomach as it reeks with ignorance. Maybe you should go to school before you try and take a pup to school. Blind leading the blind ya know? Sad thing is, that pup knows more about what she needs than you do at this point. Not saying you dont have the capacity to learn, but the fact is you need to learn before you can do.I was speaking from a future standpoint. I hope ya'll don't think I plan on doing that to this little girl here.

I have people working with me to fill me in on what to do and what I'm doing wrong, but as far as me saying using Max for a EDIT: teacher that is for future use if I start up a real yard. In fact Pig when I said that statement to another man I was corrected but he got what I'm saying. EDIT

EDIT: She is teaching me more than I can ever teach her. This girl was given to me as a learning experience.

EDIT: Not to mention I was advised to wait at least 18 months with these particular bred dogs.

ABK
04-30-2007, 12:39 PM
Just let her get used to you. I have found that some Eli dogs can be very shy.

If may help if you keep her on lead ion the house, that way she knows who's boss & can't run off & hide. Also, any time she comes near you, you might want to gently & quietly offer her a tasty treat so she associates your presence w/ positive things.

Good luck!

Lethalpits
04-30-2007, 12:44 PM
i hope that works out well for you. do you plan on snippin his balls off now that he won't be bred?

good luck with your new pup. hopefully she warms up to you quickly.
I'm not really into neuturing..

Would you want your nuts clipped because you were told you were inferior to the species? =P

He'll just be on the chain.

Lethalpits
04-30-2007, 12:49 PM
Just let her get used to you. I have found that some Eli dogs can be very shy.

If may help if you keep her on lead ion the house, that way she knows who's boss & can't run off & hide. Also, any time she comes near you, you might want to gently & quietly offer her a tasty treat so she associates your presence w/ positive things.

Good luck!
We're working on her. She does not like a lead nor a collar and she won't move on the lead. I gave her a bath and she stayed in the bed with us, but she's just so shy.

Weird thing is my mother came over and she loves her. I really like this girl, though. She's very curious and peculiar(sp?) and you can tell she is going to be very intelligent.

Lethalpits
04-30-2007, 01:07 PM
...and /cough another picture! I don't know if ya can tell but I'm really syked about this girl!

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k106/lethalceo/darkangelagain.jpg

Chef-Kergin
04-30-2007, 01:16 PM
I'm not really into neuturing..

Would you want your nuts clipped because you were told you were inferior to the species? =P

He'll just be on the chain.
I figured you wouldn't want any accidents and have the gene pool on your yard infected with an inferior specimen. You can still use him to "school out" your other pups, but at least he won't be reproducing. It'd just help out with the over-population problem by removing one more possibility.

Lethalpits
04-30-2007, 01:39 PM
I figured you wouldn't want any accidents and have the gene pool on your yard infected with an inferior specimen. You can still use him to "school out" your other pups, but at least he won't be reproducing. It'd just help out with the over-population problem by removing one more possibility.

Nuteuring= Man's lazy way of keep two dogs seperated.

It's really not that hard to put a bitch in heat up away from the males. Of course, she could have a silent heat, but even then they would still be seperated on their chains.

440rider
04-30-2007, 02:04 PM
I have people working with me to fill me in on what to do and what I'm doing wrong, but as far as me saying using Max for a schooler that is for future use if I start up a real yard.


here's some fillin in .....don't list what you plan to do with your animals on a public forum..in the future you may have no yard at all!

ABK
04-30-2007, 02:16 PM
Good point 440 rider. Lethal he is right. Not only might you lose your yard, you also might find yourself in a 8 x 8 w/ Bubba for intent!

As for neutering being the lazy man's way out, I beg to differ. It's the responsible man's way out. Look at Miss Conduct. Even on the best kept yards accidents happen ...

CrazyK9
04-30-2007, 02:32 PM
here's some fillin in .....don't list what you plan to do with your animals on a public forum..in the future you may have no yard at all!
I was thinking the same thing... careful man.

I'm glad you decided not to breed Max. It's definitely for the best. Since you're not too keen on neutering him, please make sure to check your chain hardware daily! You can say s/n is the lazy way out but I say better safe than sorry...

Well, I wish you luck. Just learn as much as you can before you decide to do any kind of work or breeding with these dogs. I know how exciting this is for you but I think you're jumping a little bit ahead of yourself. It's easy to do, I know, but try to take things in small steps instead.


BTW, Jeeperino, I was just commenting that I see as much Alligator as I do Bolio so I wasn't sure why he even included it. I wouldn't label the dog either of them. ;)

GSDbulldog
04-30-2007, 02:43 PM
Best of luck, Lethal. Do good for the dog and he'll do good for you.

Chef-Kergin
04-30-2007, 02:45 PM
As for neutering being the lazy man's way out, I beg to differ. It's the responsible man's way out. Look at Miss Conduct. Even on the best kept yards accidents happen ...
Glad a woman told him this. Maybe he'll listen.

ABK
04-30-2007, 03:01 PM
Glad a woman told him this. Maybe he'll listen.I doubt it. We women are all looked at as "the enemy" when it comes to s/n so doubt this time will be any different.

dogged
04-30-2007, 03:04 PM
She sure it a pretty little thing. Good luck with her.

Miss Conduct
04-30-2007, 03:33 PM
Good point 440 rider. Lethal he is right. Not only might you lose your yard, you also might find yourself in a 8 x 8 w/ Bubba for intent!

As for neutering being the lazy man's way out, I beg to differ. It's the responsible man's way out. Look at Miss Conduct. Even on the best kept yards accidents happen ...EXACTLY RIGHT! Didnt think twice about when my bitch went in heat. The male that hooked her has never in 7 years escaped, or even tried... and there has been females in heat by him many times before. Guess what? It only takes once. Same with yard accidents. ALWAYS BE PREPARED AND A STEP AHEAD OF THE UNEXPECTED!! :cool:

And also, i wouldnt ever advertise your plans. You might as well say i have a 45 pounder open to the world, come take a look at 123 Jailbird Avenue.... Whether you are just talking or serious, talking about illegal activities will get you no where but trouble

bahamutt99
04-30-2007, 03:42 PM
I would like to thank others for commenting on how freely the OP talked about what he plans on doing with his dogs. God knows if I'd mentioned it, somebody would be in here screaming "narc." :rolleyes: Lethal, good luck with your puppy.

simms
04-30-2007, 03:46 PM
My ole' blue might be a scatterbred but he showed me and some other kennel buds that he's still got bulldog in him. Like I said I'll just him in gettin the younger ones started.
*shaking head*

chloesredboy
04-30-2007, 03:52 PM
Another picture! Finally got her to eat and drink, but still ain't seen her empty out(unless she did it in the house).

She's very shy and curious. I've tried toys, treats and another puppy but she looks at me like I'm crazy. Any tips?

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k106/lethalceo/Darkangelstand.jpgjust give her time,she'll get comfortable and come around.I've always thought new pups act shy and are so well behaved untill thy're sure you are going to keep them .Once they feel confident that they arent going anywhere they start acting up and showing their asses!`

ABK
04-30-2007, 04:09 PM
Whether you are just talking or serious, talking about illegal activities will get you no where but troubleThis is very true. They have a name for it. It is called "intent to dogfight." You don't even have to have ever had the dog touched, but if they come to the conclusion you were intending to, they can charge you w/ intent to dogfight & all your dogs will be gone & your a.. will be in jail.

Loose lips sink ships guys. Let's use a little common sense here.

jadedpitgirl
04-30-2007, 04:10 PM
Nuteuring= Man's lazy way of keep two dogs seperated.

It's really not that hard to put a bitch in heat up away from the males. Of course, she could have a silent heat, but even then they would still be seperated on their chains.
This statement here makes ME want to kick YOU in the balls. A dog no more misses his balls than he does his wolf ancestors. Your ignorance shows in all of your posts on this thread. I hope, for your pup's sake, that you learn a whole helluva lot before she is of breeding age:(

ABK
04-30-2007, 04:19 PM
I always thought having a dog neutered was actually a kindness to the dog. After all, they can smell a bitch in heat for up to 3 miles away. Plus, if anyone has had a yard, they'll tell you all the females tend to come in right after one another.

So why keep your dog in a perpetual state to blue balls? To me THAT is cruel. If you ain't gonna use 'em, chuck 'em. The dog is happier, healthier & there is no way for any "oops" litters to happen.

But some guys don't get that. They look at neutering as an attack both their & their dogs "manhood." (Of course dogs don't have "manhood" but that seems to get overlooked.:rolleyes: )

But let's not get off on a tanget. We have covered s/n a thousand times & the conclusion was reached long ago that if a guy is so insecure in himself that he won't get his dog snipped, nothing we say will change it. That's a issue he has to come to grips w/ on his own.

Pitbull219
04-30-2007, 04:36 PM
I've spoke my mind before on some of the open discussion of things that shouldn't be openly discussed in public before, so I won't go there on this thread. The only reason to keep that dog intact is if you plan on breeding him. Is this dog a show dog? If so, that's fine, just don't breed him to a game-bred bitch and water down good blood. If you don't get him fixed and he gets to one of your bitches, I just hope you're responsible enough to keep 'em or cull 'em....

Lethalpits
04-30-2007, 06:58 PM
Please don't jump the gun here.

When I speak of 'schooling', that term to me and some others is used as it is. One dog showing another dog how to do something. I've had to use Max to show my other dogs and a friend's dog how a spring pole is suppose to be used instead of dog's just sitting there tugging a bit on it or licking the hide.

I've also used him to show my other dogs how to chase after the flirt, weight pull, treadmill. Some dogs jump on these activities immedietely; some do not understand the concept and will not want to do it till they see another dog do it.

Starting a pup is the same thing.

In can also apply to the older usage of the term 'schooling'.

I never openly spoke about fighting any dogs, but bringing it to the light from my terminology is about the same as somethin else.


Anyway, like I said before, please don't assume that is what this girl is headed for a life of.

As for the nutering, it will be a never ending argument so I choose not to engage in it. There are plenty of people on this board that also choose not to nuter animals that have no purpose of breeding. It has nothing to with my manhood as my dog's jewels are not my jewels, it's just not what I prefer.
No reason to lash out at me for my decision.

Not to mention I'm still letting Max prove his worthiness in other areas of his expertise. Such as weightulling, conformation and fun activities like hangtime. Maybe one day he will be worthy of breeding.

219, I definately do not intend to mix bloods and see what I get. There's enough of the Turpin's x game blood going around to even attempt something similar.

Lethalpits
04-30-2007, 07:06 PM
Also, I do apologize for using a word that is more commonly used in an illegal manner, but I feel like I was also 'agged' on to go more into detail from my original use in my post.

Anyway, thank for the input and comments. Do wish us luck in our venture with these dogs. Listening to me over this computer, I tend to ramble on and on.

I do hope this girl excels in all aspects of the ultimate bulldog. (Don't jump on me; I'm referring to WP, mill, etc.)

mansch
04-30-2007, 07:28 PM
I thought this thread was about the mans pup? Why does everyone always feel the need to critique someone else? Oh, nice pup you got!

jaystreetsA4
04-30-2007, 07:57 PM
I like your dog man! pretty :) im sure she will come round fast with some attention. Good luck with her and keep us updated with pics and stuff man. dont be a stranger.:D

jadedpitgirl
04-30-2007, 09:24 PM
I thought this thread was about the mans pup? Why does everyone always feel the need to critique someone else? Oh, nice pup you got!
You're right.....Lethal, the pup is very nice. She looks good and I hope she turns out the way you expect. Sorry for my rant:o

ABK
04-30-2007, 09:55 PM
I thought this thread was about the mans pup? Why does everyone always feel the need to critique someone else? Oh, nice pup you got!It started out about his pup. But once he brought up "schooling" that is a whole different ball game.

And I don't think anyone here "critiques." It's called education man. If someone here is in error you can believe someone here will point that out & try their best to educate them.

IMO that's one of the best points of this whole board. There are a lot of experinced ppl here & a lot of knowledge to be had if you will lower your defenses & open your mind. :)

Turner
04-30-2007, 10:16 PM
Nice pup. Watch them words. PETA has eyes and ears everywhere. Good luck with her!! She is very pretty :)

Lethalpits
04-30-2007, 10:18 PM
Yea, it did start with me speaking of schooling. Then someone spoke up about it and I took it to PMs. Since one person says something, everyone else feels obligated to do the same and blow the whole thing out of proportion. Then it turns into a hypocritical thread of people saying this can't be said and that, but by not taking to it PMs themselves they are just agging it on.

Also, someone likes start the fire by catching me in my words, and then asking me to 'eloborate' on my terminology, i.e. the word schooling.

Then another log thrown to the fire by suggesting I neuter another one of my other dogs whom clearly had nothing to do with this thread in the first place. So it turned into an argument of why I should neuter one of my animals.

As much as I respect and listen to a few of the people on this forum, this message board really turned into something else. It's like a wolf in sheep's clothing forum.

It's suppose to be a GAME-DOG.COM, but we're suppose to run around acting like petbull owners. An educational forum of the original APBT, but when a discussion of GAME DOGS comes up, people start correcting everyone and slapping on the wrist and 'you should know better than that' but no real education is given.

Yea, it's a different ball game when we start talking in dog lingo, but instead of educating on what we were actually discussing about the real APBT let's just PLASTER THE PERSON'S FAULT IN WORDS AND MAKE IT LOOK EVEN WORSE AND BOLDER FOR PETA OF WHAT THE WORDS REALLY MEAN BY POINTING IT OUT. Then, after that, let's bash the rest of the person's yard and instead of discussing what he plans for his dogs, let's just tell him what he should do and 'kick him in the balls'.

Anyway, props to the one man that contradicted me first, BUT actually took the time to discuss with me in PMs rather than bash out in another public post and eloborate even more on the lingo in plain English.


Sorry, trying to point somebody out as a fool as a means of education is in no way something I'd like be a part of.

Holla.

Lethalpits
04-30-2007, 10:21 PM
and I'm already sorry. Anyway God bless.

short1
05-01-2007, 03:24 AM
and I'm already sorry. Anyway God bless. I like your pup wanted to mention that I acuired dewitts little girl right after she had the simba litter she was a very sweet girl and a decent producer

sedaliapitbulls
05-01-2007, 06:15 AM
Well maby he dosn,t want to cut his dogs balls of and why give him shit about it. I sure and the hell am not going to cut my dogs balls and He,ll keep them till the day he dies. That dosn,t make me any less of a responsable owner. It all involves keeping your dogs conatained when another bitch is in heat. That is a responsable owner not who can run to the clinic the quickest to cut on your dog.



This statement here makes ME want to kick YOU in the balls. A dog no more misses his balls than he does his wolf ancestors. Your ignorance shows in all of your posts on this thread. I hope, for your pup's sake, that you learn a whole helluva lot before she is of breeding age:(

simms
05-01-2007, 07:28 AM
Well maby he dosn,t want to cut his dogs balls of and why give him shit about it. I sure and the hell am not going to cut my dogs balls and He,ll keep them till the day he dies. That dosn,t make me any less of a responsable owner. It all involves keeping your dogs conatained when another bitch is in heat. That is a responsable owner not who can run to the clinic the quickest to cut on your dog.
I'm pro spay and nueter.....esp to those that shouldnt be breeding theses dogs.

I'de be willing to bet you breed questionable stock!

dogged
05-01-2007, 08:32 AM
I'm glad you clarified what you meant, Lethal. :) All it takes is a little wild imagination...


It's suppose to be a GAME-DOG.COM, but we're suppose to run around acting like petbull owners. An educational forum of the original APBT, but when a discussion of GAME DOGS comes up, people start correcting everyone and slapping on the wrist and 'you should know better than that' but no real education is given.

I know this is OT but I feel it needs to be said. My personal dogs would fall under the term "petbull," my three rescued girls. I have no illusions that they're gamebred or even well bred (which is why they're all spayed ;) ). Nevertheless, being a "petbull" owner at this time in my life (these are my first pit bulls) doesn't make me any less interested in learning as much as I can about game dogs and bulldog history. Heck, it's one of my biggest passions. :) So give folks a little credit, Lethal.

Game dog owner or "petbull" (I really dislike that word) owner, all PIT BULL owners have to be careful about what we say and do. We're under a microscope, weather we like it or not.

Anyways, that's enough of my early morning rambling...good luck with your dog. Please keep us updated on how she's doing (and pics!).

ABK
05-01-2007, 08:33 AM
Lethal: I'm sorry you got your feelings hurt, but this is not a site for the faint of heart. You know we are a straight up bunch here. This isn't the fairies & unicorn crowd you find at other boards. And while the comments of some might sting, it is usually not done out of meanness & most of us here are still friends once we get over our mad spell.

Further, I don't think anyone was making you out to be a fool. We do that ourselves by the things we do & say. Trust me, if no one had said a mumbling word, you still would have looked quite the fool simply by what you had said. Just like I made myself look quite the fool by letting my dog eat an ice cream box!

Nor do I believe anyone is acting like a wolf in sheep's clothing. They were simply correcting you & you should be happy they cared a damn to have even done it. They could have sat back & said "Let's watch this newb blather on until he gets busted." So which is more like a wolf in sheep's clothing? Them openly correcting you or them saying nothing to you & laughing at you while watching you get hauled off to jail & your dogs get euthed?

sedalia: I hate to break it to you bud, but keeping your non-show stock intact DOES make you an irresponsible owner. Even if you keep your dog up, you are still putting your dog's health, happiness & welfare at risk. How? Let me break it down for you:

Health: Testicular tumors are the #1 tumor in male dogs. No testicles, no tumors.

Happiness: An intact male can smell a female in heat up to 3 miles away & again if anyone who has had a yard will tell you the females often come in heat one right after another. Can you say "blue balls?" (BTW, call me crazy, but I've never heard any male say blue balls made him happy.)

Welfare: No one is going to steal a neutered dog. Thus a neutered dog is safer. Further, neutered dogs have a decreased desire to roam, keeping them safely off the streets.

And as much as you want to fool yourself into being able to keep your dogs up, don't. Almost every person has had an incident where a dog gets loose. Heck, look at Miss Conduct. She said the dog who bred her female hadn't gotten loose in 7 years. Then one day ... well, we all know the story.

But you go ahead & do your thing. As I said before, there is nothing that can be said to your type to change your mind. Keep your dog intact if you wish. But please do not insult the intellence of those of us who know better by saying you're a responsible owner.

MinorThreat
05-01-2007, 02:01 PM
the women of the board are all over you Lethal, run for the hills

Michele
05-01-2007, 02:04 PM
Lethal: I'm sorry you got your feelings hurt, but this is not a site for the faint of heart. You know we are a straight up bunch here. This isn't the fairies & unicorn crowd you find at other boards. And while the comments of some might sting, it is usually not done out of meanness & most of us here are still friends once we get over our mad spell.

Further, I don't think anyone was making you out to be a fool. We do that ourselves by the things we do & say. Trust me, if no one had said a mumbling word, you still would have looked quite the fool simply by what you had said. Just like I made myself look quite the fool by letting my dog eat an ice cream box!

Nor do I believe anyone is acting like a wolf in sheep's clothing. They were simply correcting you & you should be happy they cared a damn to have even done it. They could have sat back & said "Let's watch this newb blather on until he gets busted." So which is more like a wolf in sheep's clothing? Them openly correcting you or them saying nothing to you & laughing at you while watching you get hauled off to jail & your dogs get euthed?

sedalia: I hate to break it to you bud, but keeping your non-show stock intact DOES make you an irresponsible owner. Even if you keep your dog up, you are still putting your dog's health, happiness & welfare at risk. How? Let me break it down for you:

Health: Testicular tumors are the #1 tumor in male dogs. No testicles, no tumors.

Happiness: An intact male can smell a female in heat up to 3 miles away & again if anyone who has had a yard will tell you the females often come in heat one right after another. Can you say "blue balls?" (BTW, call me crazy, but I've never heard any male say blue balls made him happy.)

Welfare: No one is going to steal a neutered dog. Thus a neutered dog is safer. Further, neutered dogs have a decreased desire to roam, keeping them safely off the streets.

And as much as you want to fool yourself into being able to keep your dogs up, don't. Almost every person has had an incident where a dog gets loose. Heck, look at Miss Conduct. She said the dog who bred her female hadn't gotten loose in 7 years. Then one day ... well, we all know the story.

But you go ahead & do your thing. As I said before, there is nothing that can be said to your type to change your mind. Keep your dog intact if you wish. But please do not insult the intellence of those of us who know better by saying you're a responsible owner.
you must spread some reputation before giving it to ABK....excellent post!

MinorThreat
05-01-2007, 02:05 PM
what blood do you feed Michele?

ABK
05-01-2007, 02:05 PM
ABK, If he said he's planning on schooling this dog why are you hammering him on the nuetering situation? What if it turns out to be worthy of his first match dog?Minor, if you will read his posts, he never said he was going to school that dog. He said he was going to use that dog to school OTHER dogs.

(Schooling in this sense meaning training for flirt pole, hide work, etc.)

cheekymunkee
05-01-2007, 02:12 PM
what blood do you feed Michele?
would you please SHUT THE HELL UP??????? WHY do you have to run around acting like a little bitch all of the damn time??? NO ONE gives a rats ass what YOU think of ANY one on this board. Got it?

Chef-Kergin
05-01-2007, 02:16 PM
guys (and ladies ;) ) the OP has had a chance to see several members opinions on certain topics, as well as gotten many compliments on his new pup, which was the original topic.

can we keep the bashing out? please?

i can understand some ppl have quarrels and whatnot, but there's no need to start picking out of nowhere.

now this thread'll probably be closed by tonight, unless you can keep your opinions on others to yourselves or in a pm.

cheekymunkee
05-01-2007, 02:19 PM
sorry about that, I just get tired of seeing that little boy whine all the time.

jeeperino
05-01-2007, 02:22 PM
If the dog has been determined not worthy of breeding and is not a performance animal I wouldnt spay/neuter the dog either. Id give em a good ol dose of cur medicine and handle the problem forever.

Michele
05-01-2007, 02:31 PM
Can someone tell me what "schooling" is? Thanks in advance......

ABK
05-01-2007, 02:31 PM
Minor, you'd better check yourself. Michele runs the ultra vicious cat killa bloodline!!!! (see vid)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srdn_neUfl4&mode=related&search=

coolhandjean
05-01-2007, 02:33 PM
Minor, you'd better check yourself. Michele runs the ultra vicious cat killa bloodline!!!! (see vid)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srdn_neUfl4&mode=related&search=Aww, that is really sad. lol...

MinorThreat
05-01-2007, 02:33 PM
Debby, The board would be much better if you put your bon bons down and fixed us some turkey pot pies

Michele
05-01-2007, 02:39 PM
come on...let's get back on topic. Someone explain to me about 'schooling' and what it is....thanks.....

ABK
05-01-2007, 02:40 PM
Debby, The board would be much better if you put your bon bons down and fixed us some turkey pot pies
Minor, you got the last thread you were involved in locked b/c you were being so difficult. If you want to the board to be better, why don't you man up & start acting a little more mature. In fact, the way you act & talk, I'm beginning to think you are nothing but a lonely teenage kid just trolling the board.

cheekymunkee
05-01-2007, 02:41 PM
Minor, you got the last thread you were involved in locked b/c you were being so difficult. If you want to the board to be better, why don't you man up & start acting a little more mature. In fact, the way you act & talk, I'm beginning to think you are nothing but a lonely teenage kid just trolling the board.


Thank you!

And Minor, I ain't your moma, you want something to eat, call her up & ask her to feed you.

ABK
05-01-2007, 02:44 PM
Thank you!

And Minor, I ain't your moma, you want something to eat, call her up & ask her to feed you.He probably doesn't have to call her, she's probably sitting in the other room! bwahahahahahaha!!

OK, I'm sorry, that was a little immature of me, but I couldn't help myself! ;)

But back on topic: Michele I am going to sent you a PM that should answer your question.

Michele
05-01-2007, 02:45 PM
thanks ABK......

48lawsofpower
05-01-2007, 02:47 PM
put me down for one of those pot pies

coolhandjean
05-01-2007, 02:49 PM
put me down for one of those pot piesyeah, I'm pretty hungry. lol.

cheekymunkee
05-01-2007, 02:51 PM
Bad kitty! MY pot pie!!

dogged
05-01-2007, 02:54 PM
Deb, get your boyfriend to make us some pies when he's done with that car of yours :D

cheekymunkee
05-01-2007, 02:55 PM
He better leave my damn cat alone!!! That ain't the pus..........never mind.

ABK
05-01-2007, 02:59 PM
Super bad kitty cat!!!!!! (see link)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM1XXpn-UBI

Chef-Kergin
05-01-2007, 03:03 PM
the only things to redeem the abbove video are the ninja kitty, sniper kitty, and assualt rifle kitty. without those i would have felt dumber after wathcing it.

ABK
05-01-2007, 03:07 PM
Hey, most of the things in life that make us laugh are dumb! :p

(BTW, I have to agree, I really liked assult rifle kitty.)

CrazyK9
05-01-2007, 03:17 PM
http://geocities.com/gtaiiikilla/mypotpie.mp3

Marty
05-01-2007, 03:25 PM
what blood do you feed Michele?Enjoy your time off! and when you get back one more smart remark will you get banned permanently.

CrazyK9
05-01-2007, 03:32 PM
Thank you Marty! I have been wondering how long it would be before he was banned (temporarily or permanently) with all the trash he has been talking, especially toward Michele.

cheekymunkee
05-01-2007, 03:35 PM
Thanks Marty!


And now that we have made a total wreck of this thread.........that puppy is CUTE as hell!!

Marty
05-01-2007, 03:35 PM
He's banned for 3 days... but I'm sure he'll be back with more smart a$$ replys.

Pitbull219
05-01-2007, 03:40 PM
I think Cheeky needs a little time off for that horrible image she exposed us all to, lmao!!

cheekymunkee
05-01-2007, 03:44 PM
I think Cheeky needs a little time off for that horrible image she exposed us all to, lmao!!
Don't you think he is HOT?!?!?!?! ;)

Marty
05-01-2007, 03:53 PM
Don't you think he is HOT?!?!?!?! ;)Cheeky you know I can't allow it here ;) I deleted your post.

cheekymunkee
05-01-2007, 03:56 PM
Cheeky you know I can't allow it here ;) I deleted your post.
That's ok Marty, I knew he wouldn't last. :)

purplepig
05-01-2007, 05:31 PM
If the dog has been determined not worthy of breeding and is not a performance animal I wouldnt spay/neuter the dog either. Id give em a good ol dose of cur medicine and handle the problem forever.
Jeep, you took the words right out of my mouth!! Rep to ya!

Lethalpits
05-02-2007, 12:58 AM
If you cull a 10 month old pup that has potential, you might need to check a new hobby.

I like to let a dog show all aspects of his abilities within a good 2 year time frame.

If the ole' boy don't turn out to be nothin more than a pet, then yea I can understand maybe gettin em neutered, but the only way I'm gettin a dog neutered is if it's getting a new home and I don't want any ties to the breeding of that dog. But if it remains on my yard then he is allowed to be in his natural state.

miakoda
05-02-2007, 08:40 AM
Enough. This thread took a wrong turn from the very first post.