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maryellen1
04-27-2007, 08:22 AM
MORE RECALLS AGAIN:

Oh, and Chicken soup for the dog lover's soul AND Diamond
http://www.itchmo.com/read/breaking-news-diamond-and-chicken-soup-for-the-pet-lovers-soul-recalled_20070426

and Costco

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/4/26/174253/489

ooops, more on kirkland (costco)
http://www.petconnection.com/blog/




sedaliapitbulls
04-27-2007, 08:39 AM
ok this is getting a little to close to home. I feed diamond Maintence and diamond origional dry food I really hope these foods dont appear on the recall list.

BoiBoi
04-27-2007, 09:01 AM
I haven't been keeping track, but are all the recalls only for canned food or is it for some dry foods too?

Suki
04-27-2007, 09:17 AM
I haven't been keeping track, but are all the recalls only for canned food or is it for some dry foods too?

it's dry too, BoiBoi, so heads up bro!

BoiBoi
04-27-2007, 09:47 AM
well damn, im feeding canidae right now and i really hope they don't get affected by the recall because i know a lot of people will be scrambling for a new feed if that happens

wally81
04-27-2007, 09:53 AM
I think i am going to start feeding ol' roy... i mean this is getting out of hand....well at least they want die from this junk thats in it...

miakoda
04-27-2007, 10:13 AM
Wally, Ol Roy wet & dry food & several of their types of treats were included in the very first recall. ;) So you'd be s.o.l. there.

I had an inkling that Diamond foods would be recalled after learning that DVP's NB makes some of their food in Diamond plants. Put 2 & 2 together & whatdoya get?

I too switched back to Canidae after having my 800lbs of NB go bye-bye with the UPS guy. Although it's far from my favorite food & my dogs don't necessarily look the best on it, it's the safest right now IMO as it supposedly all ingredients are U.S. grown & they have their own manufacturing plants/processors that deal only with their food. I am also supplementing with raw (beef, venison, bison, & rabbit).

Although I do want to mention to raw feeders & those thinking of going raw, it is actually against the law (USDA law/regulations) for butchers & whatnot to give you the scraps. They are cracking down on this & those found guilty of violating the law will be put out of business. The butcher than I normally get my stuff from (a local meat market that we also buy our meat at), talked to me about it & was upset that he had to stop helping me out. I talked to many, many different people about this & it's true. So getting raw isn't the easiest thing right now unless you find someone willing to violate their governing laws.

Zane-insane
04-27-2007, 10:38 AM
Im soo sick of this shit.Im getting closer and closer to just setting out a couple extra plates at the friggin dinner table.

sedaliapitbulls
04-27-2007, 10:40 AM
so I need to know are they going to recall diamond maintence or diomand origional in dry food.

Phebes
04-27-2007, 10:41 AM
I feed Kirkland chicken rice & vegtable formula. I just called the number on the back of the bag. It is Diamond foods. They have a vet's announcement pertaining to the recall. Here is the number 1-800-797-9607
They claim as of 4-26-07 they have no recalls on any of their dry foods. They do have a recall on some canned foods.

maryellen1
04-27-2007, 11:05 AM
<TABLE class=forumline cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=row2 vAlign=top width="100%" height=28><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=2>Some of these were being recalled AS THE FDA was giving a press conference claiming they knew nothing about any more recalls. Not sure what's scarier, that they are so stupid and ill informed they really didn't know or they are lying to the consumers. I don't think anger is an accurate description of how I feel.


There are going to be more, with the announcement yesterday of American Nutrition's involvement in receiving the rice protein but WORSE is that they put it in some of the products they made for these companies without informing them - so it's not even on the label if you were being diligent about trying to avoid rice protein.

Diamond Pet Foods has announced it is withdrawing a limited number of canned products manufactured by American Nutrition. This action is limited to three specific canned products: Chicken Soup for the Pet Lover’s Soul Kitten Formula 5.5 oz. cans, and Chicken Soup for the Pet Lover’s Soul Puppy Formula 13 oz. cans, and Diamond Lamb & Rice Formula for Dogs 13 oz. cans.

Diamond Pet Foods has not received any indication of quality or safety issues, including pet illness, with the three withdrawn products. However, because American Nutrition informed the company that these three specific products may include rice protein concentrate, Diamond Pet Foods felt this action was necessary for the protection of its customers and their pets.

Customers with these products should stop feeding them immediately and return them to their retailer for a full refund.

Chicken Soup for the Pet Lover’s Soul dry pet food and dog treats ARE NOT part of any pet food or treat recall.

And STILL MORE, from Natural Balance:
Our canned manufacturer, American Nutrition, from Ogden Utah just informed us that they are recalling all canned products made in their plant that contain rice protein concentrate. American Nutrition continued by telling us that they added this ingredient to four of our canned products without informing us. The four products involved are:

Chicken Formula Canned Dog Food 13 oz
Lamb Formula Canned Dog Food 13 oz
Beef Formula Canned Dog Food 13 oz
Ocean Fish Formula Canned Cat Food 3 oz & 6 oz

And more - Costco's


We’ve just confirmed with Costo by phone as well.

Kirkland Signature Super Premium Canned Food, item # 38436, best buy dates of Aug. 21 08 to April 15 of 09, has been voluntarilly recalled. We don’t yet know more than that.

But it gets more interesting because while Costco recalled this food yesterday after 3 p.m. east coast press conference ended, the FDA had already tested this food and found the Melamine - so they knew that there would be more recalls yet said they didn't.


Wilson stressed that Costco acted with caution to prevent harm to any pets who might eat the food. They believed their food was safe, and American Nutrition’s own tests did not detect melamine in the food. It was FDA testing that detected the contamination. Wilson said that American Nutrition is working with the FDA, and that “many” other brands are involved, “not just Costco.”

and by no means is the end, but Blue Buffalo - carried at Petsmart - is recalling ALL of it's canned foods and biscuits. All of them. ANI again put the rice protein in them without notifying them nor labeling it.


We at the Blue Buffalo Company have just learned that American Nutrition Inc. (ANI), the manufacturer of all our cans and biscuits, has been adding rice protein concentrate to our can formulas without our knowledge and without our approval. This is product tampering, and it apparently has been going on for some time. The can formulas that we developed, and trusted them to produce, never contained any rice protein concentrate. It appears that only an FDA investigation of ANI’s rice protein concentrate supplies forced them to reveal this product tampering to us.

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maryellen1
04-27-2007, 11:05 AM
Here's from Bliue Buffalo's website...

The obvious question is “how could Blue Buffalo not know that ANI was putting rice protein concentrate into our canned food?” The answer is we trusted them. In business and in life, we all trust our partners to deal with us honestly. When we buy produce from our local grocery store, we are trusting growers, shippers and a series of handlers to have delivered a product that is safe and nutritious for our family. If any one of these parties betrays our trust, contaminated products can make their way to our dinner table.

And while we test for known toxins and contaminants, we don’t test for protein sources, like rice protein concentrate, especially when we did not formulate our products to contain them.

In the end, this all comes down to an issue of integrity, and ANI has not been honest with us and with the pet parents who buy our products. We will not put any product made by ANI on the shelf, and are temporarily withdrawing an important part of our business in order to be true to our pet parents.

I do like that they are not going to use ANI in the future.

I agree that I would definitely stay away from anything made by Menu Foods - their role in this disaster is far from over....from Itchmo.com:

ChemNutra Says Menu Foods Got More Wheat Gluten Elsewhere
Itchmo has learned that ChemNutra, the US importer of tainted wheat gluten, was searched by the FDA. The most shocking part of this release is that ChemNutra says: “Menu Foods used significantly more wheat gluten monthly than we supplied to them, so we hope that Menu Foods will disclose its other sources to the FDA.”

We’ll let that sink in a little. Just to let you know, Menu Foods sued ChemNutra earlier in the day.

maryellen1
04-27-2007, 11:06 AM
i wouldnt feed any kibble that comes from the recalled companies as a precaution.. for those that dont follow it, you should.. you can sign up at
We wanted to update you on the latest pet food recalls. Today the FDA has added two more brands to the tainted pet food list. (See Below) The National Pet Foundation will notify you within an hour each time a new brand is recalled. If you want to add a family member or a friend to our 'Recall Update' email list please visit: http://nationalpetfoundation.com/pet-food-recall.html (http://nationalpetfoundation.com/pet-food-recall.html)

48lawsofpower
04-27-2007, 11:09 AM
from Diamonds website:



<b><big>Diamond Pet Food Withdraws Products in Response to
American Nutrition Inc. Pet Food Recall</big></b>

META, MO (April 27, 2007) — Because of the canned pet food recall initiated by American Nutrition Inc., Diamond Pet Foods has announced it is withdrawing a limited number of canned products manufactured by American Nutrition. This action is limited to three specific canned products: Diamond Lamb & Rice Formula for Dogs 13 oz. cans, Chicken Soup for the Pet Lover’s Soul Kitten Formula 5.5 oz. cans, and Chicken Soup for the Pet Lover’s Soul Puppy Formula 13 oz. cans. Please click on the press release icon to the right for the full release.

<b><big>Diamond Pet Foods Manufactures All of Our Own DRY PET FOODS</big></b>

maximusflys
04-27-2007, 11:32 AM
i wouldnt feed any kibble that comes from the recalled companies as a precaution.. for those that dont follow it, you should.. you can sign up at
We wanted to update you on the latest pet food recalls. Today the FDA has added two more brands to the tainted pet food list. (See Below) The National Pet Foundation will notify you within an hour each time a new brand is recalled. If you want to add a family member or a friend to our 'Recall Update' email list please visit: http://nationalpetfoundation.com/pet-food-recall.html (http://nationalpetfoundation.com/pet-food-recall.html)




Same here!!! I wouldn't touch any food from a company that has had some of their foods recalled. Some of these companies don't even know what's in their own food and some are probably holding out until last minute like some already have. These companies would never get my business ever even after this whole ordeal is over with. Especially Diamond's as this being their second recall, why risk the chance of feeding this food because it's the best bang for your buck is just ridiclous.

48lawsofpower
04-27-2007, 11:54 AM
I wouldn't say it is ridiculous, the recall this time is as a precaution. The canned products don't even have the ingredients that caused the recall. It is purely a saftey measure.

also Diamonds first recall was for only foods with corn in them.


Diamonds Naturals has no corn or wheat gluten.

so actually the Diamond Natural kibble has NEVER been affected by a recall.

Michele
04-27-2007, 12:05 PM
I am feeding JC Chicken soup...SHIT!!!!.....no more.......

maryellen1
04-27-2007, 12:37 PM
me personally, if a company has a dog/cat food recall, i wont use their products anymore.. this is diamonds second recall, so i am done with them. whether its the naturals or the regular diamond, the company has had 2 recalls, and they made the food for others which is involved. i wont play with my dogs lives. all 3 of mine are now on raw. i have a half a bag of canidae that i am not even going to give them for now ... too scary that more and more food is being recalled...

Michele
04-27-2007, 12:40 PM
Chicken Soup for the Pet Lover’s Soul dry pet food and dog treats ARE NOT part of any pet food or treat recall.
yea, for now.....screw them...i'm done with it

sedaliapitbulls
04-27-2007, 12:47 PM
I am still happy with the diamond brand being that said I,m going to stick with them until their is a recall on the brand I use. If their is a recall I will switch. I,m not considering i am playing with my dogs lives, but Who els are you going to go to it seems numerous companys are recalling their product. Right now I would know who I would want to switch to so we,ll see how it goes

FearlessKnight
04-27-2007, 01:04 PM
me personally, if a company has a dog/cat food recall, i wont use their products anymore.. this is diamonds second recall, so i am done with them. whether its the naturals or the regular diamond, the company has had 2 recalls, and they made the food for others which is involved. i wont play with my dogs lives. all 3 of mine are now on raw. i have a half a bag of canidae that i am not even going to give them for now ... too scary that more and more food is being recalled...I feel the same way here....once is scaary enough....no way in hell I would go for it after 2 times. But people will still feed it, and dogs will still die. And what isn't/hasn't been in recall will eventually make its way through....and all of those people that said....well it isn't what I feed, will soon get theirs....and for that I am truly sorry for the poor dogs.

Michele
04-27-2007, 01:10 PM
I just threw out all of the Chicken Soup. Even though it's dry food, I don't care because sooner or later that's going to be recalled too.

maximusflys
04-27-2007, 01:36 PM
I feel the same way here....once is scaary enough....no way in hell I would go for it after 2 times. But people will still feed it, and dogs will still die. And what isn't/hasn't been in recall will eventually make its way through....and all of those people that said....well it isn't what I feed, will soon get theirs....and for that I am truly sorry for the poor dogs.
It's definitely the dogs I feel bad for.

Michele-good for you, don't take the chance that it will later be recalled and don't ever go back to them either. I didn't know CS was manufactured by diamonds as well. Diamond's sure has a good reputaion for food being recalled and it is one the most recommended foods on this site. I hope all the dogs are OK after all this.

IMO, once you have a recall on a food you might as well go out of business becasue there is no way I will by anything from them again.

cheekymunkee
04-27-2007, 02:29 PM
And now do you see why I REFUSE to feed commercial dog food??? It was well worth it to me to research RAW, learn how to make a proper diet & feed it to my dogs. it is not that hard, all you have to do is research & learn. There is no great mystery. No matter WHAT the dog food companies tell you, if you can feed your kids & not kill them, you CAN feed your dogs. ;) Raw on it's worst day is still better than 99.9% of the commercial dog food out there.

cheekymunkee
04-27-2007, 02:37 PM
Wally, Ol Roy wet & dry food & several of their types of treats were included in the very first recall. ;) So you'd be s.o.l. there.

I had an inkling that Diamond foods would be recalled after learning that DVP's NB makes some of their food in Diamond plants. Put 2 & 2 together & whatdoya get?

I too switched back to Canidae after having my 800lbs of NB go bye-bye with the UPS guy. Although it's far from my favorite food & my dogs don't necessarily look the best on it, it's the safest right now IMO as it supposedly all ingredients are U.S. grown & they have their own manufacturing plants/processors that deal only with their food. I am also supplementing with raw (beef, venison, bison, & rabbit).

Although I do want to mention to raw feeders & those thinking of going raw, it is actually against the law (USDA law/regulations) for butchers & whatnot to give you the scraps. They are cracking down on this & those found guilty of violating the law will be put out of business. The butcher than I normally get my stuff from (a local meat market that we also buy our meat at), talked to me about it & was upset that he had to stop helping me out. I talked to many, many different people about this & it's true. So getting raw isn't the easiest thing right now unless you find someone willing to violate their governing laws.
Wow, I didn't know that. I buy my dog's meat but I do know some people that get scraps from the butcher.

maryellen1
04-27-2007, 02:41 PM
if the recalled companies cant control what goes in the canned food, how the heck can they control what goes in the dry food?? no need for chances there thats for sure...

i am doing raw now, and i have to say even my allergic gsd is doing pretty good on raw, its been a few weeks, and so far her ears are holding their own..

48lawsofpower
04-27-2007, 03:27 PM
if the recalled companies cant control what goes in the canned food, how the heck can they control what goes in the dry food?? no need for chances there thats for sure...

i am doing raw now, and i have to say even my allergic gsd is doing pretty good on raw, its been a few weeks, and so far her ears are holding their own..
because Diamond manufactures their own dry food that is why.they outsource the canned.







04/26/07FAQ About the Pet Food Recall


Q: What’s the current situation?
A: Because of the canned pet food recall initiated by American Nutrition Inc., Diamond Pet Foods has announced it is withdrawing a limited number of canned products manufactured by American Nutrition.

Q: Which products are affected?
A: There are only 3 canned products affected, Diamond Lamb & Rice Formula for Dogs 13 oz cans, Chicken Soup for the Kitten Lover’s Soul Kitten Formula 5.5 oz cans, and Chicken Soup for the Puppy Lover’s Soul Puppy Formula 13 oz cans.

Q: What “Best By” dates should I look for?
A: The products affected by the recall have “best by” dates as follows:

• Chicken Soup for the Pet Lover’s Soul Kitten Formula 5.5 oz. cans: Aug. 15, 2008 to April 15, 2009
• Chicken Soup for the Pet Lover’s Soul Puppy Formula 13 oz. cans: Aug. 21, 2008 to April 15, 2009
• Diamond Lamb & Rice Formula for Dogs 13 oz. cans: Aug. 21, 2009 to April 15, 2010

Q: What caused Diamond to take this action?
A: Diamond Pet Foods is taking this voluntary action after learning the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) confirmed rice protein concentrate used by American Nutrition contained melamine, a substance not approved for use in food.

Q: Are any Diamond brand dry pet foods being recalled?
A: None of our Diamond, Diamond Naturals, Chicken Soup for the Pet Lover’s Soul, Premium Edge, Professional, Nutra Nuggets dry pet foods are being recalled. None of the dry pet food products that we manufacture for Solid Gold or Kirkland Signature are being recalled. Natural Balance did recall 2 formulas that we manufactured for them – Natural Balance Venison & Brown Rice dry dog food and Natural Balance Venison & Green Pea dry cat food.

Q: How can I contact a veterinarian at Diamond Pet Foods about the recall?
A: We have a call center that is taking calls at 1-866-214-6945. The hours are 7 am to 7 pm Central Standard Time, Monday through Friday and 7 am to 5 pm Central Standard Time, Saturday and Sunday.

Q: Rice protein concentrate is not on the label. Why is it in the food?
A: We’re working with the FDA to determine this. Diamond Pet Foods did not formulate or label these 3 formulas to contain rice protein concentrate. While the FDA is investigating this, current information indicates this error is a result of a manufacturing deviation by American Nutrition.

Q: What are the symptoms of illness associated with eating this product?
A: We would like to emphasize that none of the samples of these products have tested positive for melamine or any other contaminants. We have not received any reports of illness associated with these products. It has been widely reported that pets that ingest the foods tainted with melamine may develop kidney problems. Typically they will vomit the food shortly after eating. However, vomiting is not uncommon in dogs or cats and one episode of vomiting should not be a cause for alarm in the absence of other symptoms. These pets usually will drink a lot of water, will act very sleepy, and will vomit. These symptoms develop very rapidly after consuming the tainted food.

Q: My pet ate one of the withdrawn foods. Should I take him to the vet?
A: At this time, we have no reason to believe that the withdrawn foods contain melamine. If your pet is ill, no matter what the cause, you should contact your veterinarian.

Q: Will Diamond Pet Foods pay my vet bill?
A: We will make a decision on a case by case basis regarding reimbursement for veterinary expenses.

Q: What should I do if I am feeding one of these products?
A: You should quit feeding the product and return any unused cans to your retailer for a full refund.

Q: Is the rice in your products safe?
A: Yes - our white rice, brown rice, rice bran, rice flour, and brewers rice that we use in various formulas are all safe and free from melamine contamination.

Q: How do you know that the rice protein concentrate did not contaminate other dry or canned foods?
A: We have procedures for cleaning out our equipment between batches, to avoid cross contamination. We were recently audited by Silliker Labs, a company that evaluates human grade manufacturing facilities. We scored 100% for prevention of cross contamination, something we are very proud of. The FDA tested our other canned products that were manufactured by American Nutrition and no other products contain rice protein concentrate.

Q: What is rice protein concentrate?
A: Rice protein concentrate is a by-product of the rice syrup industry. Unlike other rice ingredients, it is very high in protein. It is not the same ingredient as white rice, brown rice, brewers rice, rice bran or rice flour.

Q: Do you use wheat gluten or rice protein concentrate in your foods?
A: These ingredients are used in canned products as thickening agents for gravy or as low-ash protein sources. They are also used as protein sources in dry foods. We do not use any wheat gluten and we used rice protein concentrate only in the 2 Natural Balance formulas that were recalled – Natural Balance Venison & Brown Rice dry dog food and Venison & Green Pea dry cat food.

Q: Why does American Nutrition manufacture your canned food?
A: Manufacturing canned pet food is very different from the manufacturing of dry pet food, requiring different equipment. Diamond Pet Foods does not have a canning facility.

Q: How can you be certain that more canned foods won’t be recalled?
A: We are working closely with the FDA to ensure that no additional manufacturing deviation occurs with our canned products. The FDA did investigate our other canned formulas in both the Diamond brand and the Chicken Soup for the Pet Lover’s Soul brand and found that rice protein concentrate was not included in any other formulas.

Q: Please explain the situation with the pet food that was sold to the hog farmers.
A: It is common regulated practice for animal food facilities to provide salvage product to farms with non-ruminant animals. This regulated practice is mindful of the environment as it does not waste energy (food) and saves valuable landfill space. All of the salvage food was sold prior to Diamond Pet Foods being notified of the contamination in rice protein concentrate.

Q: What is salvage pet food?
A: Salvage pet food is product that comes off the equipment at the very beginning of a run of food. It is high in moisture and thus can’t be bagged.

Q: If your dry foods are not being recalled, how did the salvage food get contaminated?
A: We did manufacture two formulas for Natural Balance that were recalled – Natural Balance Venison & Brown Rice dry dog food and Natural Balance Venison & Green Pea dry cat food – and it was the beginning portions of these runs of food that ended up in the salvage food that was sold.

Michele
04-27-2007, 03:47 PM
I'm going to feed home cooked with a supplement.

Michele
04-27-2007, 03:49 PM
Q: Are any Diamond brand dry pet foods being recalled?
A: None of our Diamond, Diamond Naturals, Chicken Soup for the Pet Lover’s Soul, Premium Edge, Professional, Nutra Nuggets dry pet foods are being recalled. None of the dry pet food products that we manufacture for Solid Gold or Kirkland Signature are being recalled. Natural Balance did recall 2 formulas that we manufactured for them – Natural Balance Venison & Brown Rice dry dog food and Natural Balance Venison & Green Pea dry cat food.

I don't know about you, but for me, i would never take the chance. Because tomorrow, this food could be recalled. Someone wants our dogs and cats dead.

FearlessKnight
04-27-2007, 03:58 PM
I don't know about you, but for me, i would never take the chance. Because tomorrow, this food could be recalled. Someone wants our dogs and cats dead.That is a FACT! I think we both (all) know who that is!

MIKA
04-27-2007, 06:20 PM
so I need to know are they going to recall diamond maintence or diomand origional in dry food.I just got off the phone with a Diamond rep. He said no dry foods were affected just canned. I feed chicken soup adult canned mixed with canidae but he said the chicken soup puppy & kitten canned were being recalled. I am nervous about this whole mess. We need to bomb the shit out of china in my opinion!!
He said that Canidae was not on the list at all. The chicken soup dry and chicken soup adult formula canned are not on it either.

chloesredboy
04-27-2007, 06:36 PM
I think its retarded that these companies claim one formula like lamb and rice is okay,but another formula thats made in the exact same factory is bad.Or how the canned is bad but the dry is okay.What a load of shit.I think they're claiming certain foods are okay only because they have'nt had any complaints about that particular formula yet.Bottom line is if one diamond formula or ol'roy formula is being recalled ,its all bad.Its not as though each formula is made in seperate factories with all different ingredients.That being said ,has anyone heard of pedigree being recalled?I dont think it has but im not sure.

FearlessKnight
04-27-2007, 07:00 PM
That being said ,has anyone heard of pedigree being recalled?I dont think it has but im not sure.No, but it should be....have you seen those ingredients? :eek:

chloesredboy
04-27-2007, 07:10 PM
No, but it should be....have you seen those ingredients? :eek:LOL!,yeah i looked at the ingredients ,but hell what can you do?bad as it may be at least it wont kill them.

cheekymunkee
04-27-2007, 07:29 PM
LOL!,yeah i looked at the ingredients ,but hell what can you do?bad as it may be at least it wont kill them.
I wouldn't be too sure about that. It may not be on the recall list but it has almost 0 nutrition. May as well just feed your dog corn meal mush for all pedigree is worth.

FearlessKnight
04-27-2007, 07:39 PM
LOL!,yeah i looked at the ingredients ,but hell what can you do?bad as it may be at least it wont kill them.Well I don't know...it might! LOL

CynthiaATL
04-27-2007, 08:51 PM
LOL!,yeah i looked at the ingredients ,but hell what can you do?bad as it may be at least it wont kill them.The Vet I work for said all the cases of Pre-eclampsia he has seen was on Ol Roy. My Scrappy was on it when I was in school and he started losing hair. I will never feed it again.

iron_dusty
04-27-2007, 09:20 PM
and we think the food we buy at the grocery store for ourselves is any better??

jaystreetsA4
04-27-2007, 09:48 PM
can anyone tell me what kirklands food ahs been recalled? is aw someone mention it but havent seen it anywhere.

jaystreetsA4
04-28-2007, 01:57 PM
*Bump Up* :D

cheekymunkee
04-28-2007, 03:17 PM
can anyone tell me what kirklands food ahs been recalled? is aw someone mention it but havent seen it anywhere.

Kirkland Signature Premium Dog 2-Flavor Variety Pack 14oz (24-pack) AUG 21 08 APR 15 09

jadedpitgirl
04-28-2007, 04:08 PM
That is a FACT! I think we both (all) know who that is!
So, now PeTA is infiltrating all of our dog food companies???? What the hell, are they trying to kill all of America's pets or just the APBTs?

I can't stand the PeTA humaniacs, but I seriously doubt we have to worry about them in the food business. If they do anything it'll be blowing up the dog food factories...

cheekymunkee
04-28-2007, 05:12 PM
So, now PeTA is infiltrating all of our dog food companies???? What the hell, are they trying to kill all of America's pets or just the APBTs?

I can't stand the PeTA humaniacs, but I seriously doubt we have to worry about them in the food business. If they do anything it'll be blowing up the dog food factories...
There is NO PROOF of that at all. While I would not put it past them, there is NO proof at this time that Peta had anything to do with this.

Michele
04-28-2007, 06:07 PM
I dont remember if someone mentioned it here on on another site but remember last year when China was killing all the dogs because of rabies? And then the US got involved and the US was not nice about it. Well, maybe it's payback time, eh?......Just a thought.....

Iverson's Pits
04-28-2007, 06:36 PM
I think its retarded that these companies claim one formula like lamb and rice is okay,but another formula thats made in the exact same factory is bad.Or how the canned is bad but the dry is okay.What a load of shit.I think they're claiming certain foods are okay only because they have'nt had any complaints about that particular formula yet.Bottom line is if one diamond formula or ol'roy formula is being recalled ,its all bad.Its not as though each formula is made in seperate factories with all different ingredients.That being said ,has anyone heard of pedigree being recalled?I dont think it has but im not sure.
Well, consider this: Wheat Gluten (the ingredient in question) is used as a "binder" in most wet, or "paste", dog/cat foods. Wheat gluten can also be used in dry foods as an extremely cheap source of protein.

Take Eukanuba for example. They use it in their canned foods, but you wont find it as a protein source in their dry foods. Both foods are made at the same plant, by the same company, even the same flavor/formula. But you wont find wheat gluten in Eukanubas dry foods.

Oh, and by the way....I'd suggest switching off of Pedigree anyways - recall or no recall.

Have a nice day.

purplepig
04-28-2007, 07:27 PM
If you dont think them fanatical peta folks would infiltrate the dog food industry, I got some beech front property to sale you in Arizona! Them folks would rape their own mama just to have the opportunity to kill a dog! Animal rights. Yea, right! Their motto is that "a domesticated animal has the right to die!, by any means we deem to be fit!"
I say bring them to me and I'll lay hands on them suddenly! A wise man said once to the question of why he was so rough with folks he prayed for, "Well, ya see, sometimes you have knock the devil out of some folks!"

chloesredboy
04-29-2007, 02:12 AM
Well, consider this: Wheat Gluten (the ingredient in question) is used as a "binder" in most wet, or "paste", dog/cat foods. Wheat gluten can also be used in dry foods as an extremely cheap source of protein.

Take Eukanuba for example. They use it in their canned foods, but you wont find it as a protein source in their dry foods. Both foods are made at the same plant, by the same company, even the same flavor/formula. But you wont find wheat gluten in Eukanubas dry foods.

Oh, and by the way....I'd suggest switching off of Pedigree anyways - recall or no recall.

Have a nice day.oh i dont feed pedigree ,i was just curious because most my family feeds pedigree.And thanks for the explanation it makes sense im just so paranoid about this nonsense!

sedaliapitbulls
04-29-2007, 06:29 PM
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to purplepig again.

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jadedpitgirl
04-29-2007, 08:21 PM
If you dont think them fanatical peta folks would infiltrate the dog food industry, I got some beech front property to sale you in Arizona! Them folks would rape their own mama just to have the opportunity to kill a dog! Animal rights. Yea, right! Their motto is that "a domesticated animal has the right to die!, by any means we deem to be fit!"
I say bring them to me and I'll lay hands on them suddenly! A wise man said once to the question of why he was so rough with folks he prayed for, "Well, ya see, sometimes you have knock the devil out of some folks!"
PP, I understand what you are saying, but I really doubt this is the case at the current time.

14rock
04-29-2007, 10:07 PM
It's just a matter of time before the rest of the recalls come to light-don't be naieve and wait too long! The only seemingly safe food companies at the moment, are made in private factories, with American-made ingredients. Unfortunately for some of you folks, 10 dollars for a 50 lb. bag of dog food will no longer cut it!