my latest claim to fame:

[The Watcher]

spot free program im runnin over here folks. nothing will be over looked. no excuses will be made.
this is my latest claim to fame that many breeders dont see the need for. yea, there wasnt much need, cosidering my boy has already proven his worthiness. BUT, for those that his size, rather than his heart seems to be more important ~
eat ur heart out.
http://www.offa.org/display.html?appnum=1261762#animal
and be4 ya try to tell me what is needed and not needed in regards to this breed, remember this is somethig that I did to keep my record clean. not that I ever doubted my fine animal.

[cheekymunkee]

spot free program im runnin over here folks. nothing will be over looked. no excuses will be made.
this is my latest claim to fame that many breeders dont see the need for. yea, there wasnt much need, cosidering my boy is already proven his worthiness. BUT, for those that his size, rather than his heart seems to be more important ~
eat ur heart out.
http://www.offa.org/display.html?appnum=1261762#animal
and be4 ya try to tell me what is needed and not needed in regards to this breed, remember this is somethig that I did to keep my record clean. not that I ever doubted my fine animal.
Congratulations!! Good job!! I wish more people saw the need for these tests.

[dogged]

Congrats! You should be proud!

I wish more people saw the need for these tests.
Me too, Deb.

[The Watcher]

thanks, all in my quest to produce the best GAME dogs possible.

[jaystreetsA4]

awesome! u on a freaking roll 50 :D

[Michele]

thanks, all in my quest to produce the best GAME dogs possible.
and those pups.........perfection....just perfection

[The Watcher]

thank you.


edit: ya know, it was like getting a heartworm test or even a STD test. the whole time your walkin around your like "naw... cant be me" the when you submit the test ya get all nervous!!
but, DAMMIT MANG.. the feeling ya get when it comes back for the better!

I would do it again if need be. point is, the paper talks. bullshit walks......

[ChiaPit]

Very nice...Congratulations!

I noticed very few dogs were rated excellent...I'm sure it feels good to have your pup be part of that select few :)

[The Watcher]

the feeling ya get when ya realize that he is in TWO OF THE SELECTED FEW GROUPS. ;)
OFA radial graph: $90. > MASTERCARD
gamedog & lil blue paper that says excellent: priceless

[jaystreetsA4]

word. now u can shut up all them people who talk shat about game-dogs having more HD since they not tested. lol paper should shut them up.

[The Watcher]

thats honestly why I did it. and I have a feeling it will prove to be worth every penny.
Death to the Haters.
;)

[jaystreetsA4]

word. haters suck.:mad:

good breeders and the truth rock:D

[The Watcher]

then call me Kid Rock. im over here all "Ba-Wit-a- Ba" and shi.

:D

Bawitaba-da-bang-da-dang-diggy-diggy-diggy-said-the boogie-said-up-jump-the-boogie

[jaystreetsA4]

lol good one 50:D how them pups doing?

[The Watcher]

awesome actually at the vet as we speak. shipping out this weekend.
2 folks off the board got some.

[jaystreetsA4]

thats kool. hope they post pics watch them grow up.:D

[Michele]

well, if i ever am ready for one, i know where i'm going to get it......

[jeeperino]

Hmmmm. I dont know quite how I feel about it. On one hand I guess its good to have the hips tested for a few reasons. On the other hand I didnt think there would be much need to test a bulldog. I would think a cardio test would be of more value to a bulldog breeder.

Watcher, Is there a specific reason why you tested him?? Were you worried about his hips or just for piece of mind??

[bahamutt99]

Hey, congrats! I was actually browsing the OFA site last night, and noticed that you don't see a lot of Excellents nowadays. Bring those numbers up! :) All mine will be OFAed from here on out.

[Suki]

thanks, all in my quest to produce the best GAME dogs possible.

as it should be! ;)
congrats on your "Excellent". :cool:

[Chef-Kergin]

if only every breeder was as dedicated to their stock as you are 50, then the world would be a much better place.

glad he's got a good bill of health for them hips of his.

[Turner]

Congrats!! Ya do what cha do and ya do it well!! And that would be breeding bulldogs. Good job 50!!

[pennsooner]

Way to go. Great to see the results came back so good. I only know of 2 gamebred dogs that have been OFA's, yours and Longs Uno, both came back excellent.

[Old Timer]

congrats watcher.i do the same here i test hips,eyes,and elbows.to me it is a very much needed test because like you said it is just one more thing in your favor for producing the best bulldogs as you can.more than likely you will never have a bad result i know in my case i never have but i like to know 100%.

[miakoda]

That's awesome Fifty! I rarely see an "excellent" even in those my-showdogs-are-better-than-your-scrawny-dogs types who think breeding a dog with fair hips is a great idea.

[MoEttaWinnyMOM]

muy excelente

[CrazyK9]

Hmmmm. I dont know quite how I feel about it. On one hand I guess its good to have the hips tested for a few reasons. On the other hand I didnt think there would be much need to test a bulldog. I would think a cardio test would be of more value to a bulldog breeder.

Watcher, Is there a specific reason why you tested him?? Were you worried about his hips or just for piece of mind??
I think he already answered all that. We all say bulldogs don't need to be tested, but never prove it... 50 just did. Wave that "excellent" in their faces man! :D So not only is he proving people wrong, he is also reassuring himself he is breeding some damn healthy dogs.

What reason is there to not be proud of and excited for the guy? The testing may not be neccessary in many people's opinions, but there aren't any negatives to this being done, only positives. It's his money and he feels it was well worth it so what's left to question?

(Also, he didn't say what else he may have tested for, so don't assume he didn't get other things checked out or that only Bob got tested. That may be the case, but we don't know that for sure.)


Congrats on the results, Watcher, and I'm proud that you went above the typical breeder's responsibility. Just another reason I look forward to gettin a pup from you in the future. I hope I can make a trip out there sometime and see those amazing animals and their superb breeder/owner/handler in person. ;)

[mansch]

nice, i am getting my girls hips done& elbows done this may. :D

[jeeperino]

I think he already answered all that. We all say bulldogs don't need to be tested, but never prove it... 50 just did. Wave that "excellent" in their faces man! :D So not only is he proving people wrong, he is also reassuring himself he is breeding some damn healthy dogs.

What reason is there to not be proud of and excited for the guy? The testing may not be neccessary in many people's opinions, but there aren't any negatives to this being done, only positives. It's his money and he feels it was well worth it so what's left to question?

(Also, he didn't say what else he may have tested for, so don't assume he didn't get other things checked out or that only Bob got tested. That may be the case, but we don't know that for sure.)


Congrats on the results, Watcher, and I'm proud that you went above the typical breeder's responsibility. Just another reason I look forward to gettin a pup from you in the future. I hope I can make a trip out there sometime and see those amazing animals and their superb breeder/owner/handler in person. ;)
I see where u are coming from. That is the first time I ever heard of someone getting hips tested on a gamedog. I guess no bad can come from it.

I was just wondering if maybe he noticed something about the dog or his parents that made him do it.

[The Watcher]

Ive stated several reason that I did it Jepp. read back thru.....
you may not, But I treat my animals just as the Army treats their professional killers.
any idea how many tests (physical and mental) a Marine goes thru. I mean when your on my level game dogs are not rare. Im diggin deeper into the well sort of speak. hope this releves your concern and answers your questions. by the way, I understand you dont see the need.
but here is the difference between me and you.
you dont think your dogs have problems. I know.

PS- I also due a regular CBC, PCV and chemistry on all my animals.
heart, lungs, kidneys etc. also due some temperment test.
come on brotha, get on my level-

[MinorThreat]

what temperment tests do you do?

I always read your posts, you have some different ideas

good luck with your dogs

[bahamutt99]

Watcher, I have mad respect for you for taking that step, whether there's a need or not. There have been discussions about things like this on other boards, and many have stated that they'd love to own a performance-bred dog, but are uncomfortable going to someone who doesn't health-test. A lot of people are coming to expect those things now. And for the most part, you can't get both. (I'm not trying to turn this into a discussion about selling dogs or anything like that. Just sharing. :) )

[The Watcher]

what temperment tests do you do?
I always read your posts, you have some different ideas
good luck with your dogsI dont use the word "luck" Minor. but, preciate it.
I do several things tp test temperment of my dogs. not othadox. just me.
ie.. kids pullin tails, kids walkin up to chain spots, rides in the car, stragers at the park, knocks on the front door just to name a few that I came up with.
nothin fancy. just need to know how MY dogs react in a variety os situations.
Watcher, I have mad respect for you :) )thanks. got my mind made up and I do it my way.
I also have respect for you and the hard work you put in.

[jeeperino]

Ive stated several reason that I did it Jepp. read back thru.....
you may not, But I treat my animals just as the Army treats their professional killers.
any idea how many tests (physical and mental) a Marine goes thru. I mean when your on my level game dogs are not rare. Im diggin deeper into the well sort of speak. hope this releves your concern and answers your questions. by the way, I understand you dont see the need.
but here is the difference between me and you.
you dont think your dogs have problems. I know.

PS- I also due a regular CBC, PCV and chemistry on all my animals.
heart, lungs, kidneys etc. also due some temperment test.
come on brotha, get on my level-

All that stuff is great. Im glad u have the dogs BEST interest in mind.

Dont think im givin u a hard time about it. I just NEVER heard of anyone doing all that stuff to gamedogs. It seems a lot of extra to put in a dog that you might have to leave on the floor.

[The Watcher]

"I just NEVER heard of anyone doing all that stuff to gamedogs."
glad I could be the one to open your eyes to something new.
its like Im already good with my right. Im just workin on my left.
"It seems a lot of extra to put in a dog that you might have to leave on the floor."
it cost $90. for the x-ray. thats not extra round here. what about that one with a bad kidney that got culled and called a cur???????
hmmmm, makes ya think.
seems like the way the folks are on YOU overthere, if you had a stack of paperwork like I do, you might be a lil better off huh?



here is the ped:
http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=157296

[jeeperino]

"I just NEVER heard of anyone doing all that stuff to gamedogs."
glad I could be the one to open your eyes to something new.
its like Im already good with my right. Im just workin on my left.
"It seems a lot of extra to put in a dog that you might have to leave on the floor."
it cost $90. for the x-ray. thats not extra round here. what about that one with a bad kidney that got culled and called a cur???????
hmmmm, makes ya think.
seems like the way the folks are on YOU overthere, if you had a stack of paperwork like I do, you might be a lil better off huh?



here is the ped:
http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=157296

You got all the angles covered. Do what u do. You have opened my eyes to something new.

seems like the way the folks are on YOU overthere, if you had a stack of paperwork like I do, you might be a lil better off huh?

Im not really getting what u r saying. Bob has a nice ped and im sure is a 1st class dog. As far as me being a lil better off, once I get my problems ironed out with the Twp. Ill be lookin for a few more good dogs.

[cheekymunkee]

Ive stated several reason that I did it Jepp. read back thru.....
you may not, But I treat my animals just as the Army treats their professional killers.
any idea how many tests (physical and mental) a Marine goes thru. I mean when your on my level game dogs are not rare. Im diggin deeper into the well sort of speak. hope this releves your concern and answers your questions. by the way, I understand you dont see the need.
but here is the difference between me and you.
you dont think your dogs have problems. I know.

PS- I also due a regular CBC, PCV and chemistry on all my animals.
heart, lungs, kidneys etc. also due some temperment test.
come on brotha, get on my level-
You are a RARE one 50!! And really, that is too bad. Too bad that more peopel don't put the care, the time & the money into what they are breeding. At least when YOU say you have the best, you can prove it in more ways than one. Again, congrats to you & keep up the good work!

[CrazyK9]

here is the ped:
http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=157296
You sure do like those Big Pun dogs. :p

[GSDbulldog]

50, I just want to say THANK YOU for the time and effort you are putting into your dogs. You're one of the few that's paving the way, & I have nothing but the upmost respect for you and your program. Keep doing what you're doing, 'cause you got things right.

-Michelle

[jadedpitgirl]

50, after seeing Bob's test results and another dog (WP) from a different board, I have decided to get mine done. I had plans to breed one of my girls when she Ch out to a real nice, correct male who is in the same show circuit. I have changed my mind. When she turns 2 (in Dec) I will have her hips/elbows done. I will also do her CERF and Cardiac tests as well. Thank you for taking the first step in your own yard and changing my mind about bettering my own.


You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to The Watcher again.

[Michele]

You are a RARE one 50!! And really, that is too bad. Too bad that more peopel don't put the care, the time & the money into what they are breeding. At least when YOU say you have the best, you can prove it in more ways than one. Again, congrats to you & keep up the good work!
ditto to this post.....

[concreterose]

I just saw this thread, and I have to tell you 50 that I REALLY admire what you are doing. Raising the standard and taking things to a whole new level...anybody that wants to be on top of their game will (hopefully) follow suit.

I hope you are still doing your thing and that I am worthy of one of your fine dogs when I decide to get a dog from a breeder.

[purplepig]

then call me Kid Rock. im over here all "Ba-Wit-a- Ba" and shi.

:D

Bawitaba-da-bang-da-dang-diggy-diggy-diggy-said-the boogie-said-up-jump-the-boogieTo the rythem of da boogie da beat! Said my name's wondermike and I'd like to say hello. To the black to the white the red and the brown, the purple and yellow!

[Big Game]

How the hell could anyone advise against doing these test? Damn the negitive comments. 50 thay are mad because there programs are second class. Way to raise the bar. Leading by example!. Best of luck with youre program.

[Ella]

Congrats on your results! My dog also got an excellent, it's great when you see the "excellent" on the paper!

And just my 2 cents of thought: Gamedogs & bulldogs have very strong rear musculation so hip problems won't be noticed in a lot of cases and people just assume the dog has great hips. Testing is the only way to be sure.

[Envy's Mom]

Watcher... You are stepping up the game. I have to say I am proud of you for doing your thing. It will deffinately help better our breed. I hope you do your thing for a long time. When I am ready for another prospect; you will be at the top of my list. Hell if the rest dont follow suit you may be my entire list.