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[Scratchy]

My neighbor and I have been talking about going to the lake alot to condition our dogs but there is no open water in close proximity. So to make things easier, we(more like I) am wondering if buying a poly tank would be considered safe and a good idea as long as the dog is under supervision of course?

Here's a 100gallon one, but I may go with a 50g if it would be enough, not sure:

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h233/sdbhonest/polytank.jpg

[sedaliapitbulls]

it sounds like a good ideal. I,m going to wait to see what kind of replys this thread gets to if I,m going to try that.

[Scratchy]

it sounds like a good ideal. I,m going to wait to see what kind of replys this thread gets to if I,m going to try that.
My neighbor said he's gonna get one sometime this weekend and I want to see how they work in it. I'm sure at first you gotta coax them into it or do what he says he gonna do: just throw them in and watch'em go............lol

[sedaliapitbulls]

let me know because I was thinking of purchacing a treadmill and if it works I would go that route. Also I got a friend that is going to be making me a jimmy where I can work 4 dogs at once.

[clutch billups]

well i really dont see how a dog is gunna benifit from this except to cool down on a hot day i just really dont think they are gunna be able to "swim in place" but ive never tried or seen so i guess ya never know ...

on that note what i have seen work is one of those back yard pools its just a outside with a plastic liner and surprisingly enough they are affordable there is a little bit of set up but its not bad ....dig the perimiter of the pool set the out side and then lay the plastic... but this is just my opinion someone else may no more about your idea i just dont see it working .... now if im wrong please keep me posted on how it does work....


one more thing the pool i did see with a dog set up was about three feet deep and the dude used a flirt pole to keep the dog going and the dog LOVED IT so again good luck ...

[Scratchy]

well i really dont see how a dog is gunna benifit from this except to cool down on a hot day i just really dont think they are gunna be able to "swim in place" but ive never tried or seen so i guess ya never know ...

on that note what i have seen work is one of those back yard pools its just a outside with a plastic liner and surprisingly enough they are affordable there is a little bit of set up but its not bad ....dig the perimiter of the pool set the out side and then lay the plastic... but this is just my opinion someone else may no more about your idea i just dont see it working .... now if im wrong please keep me posted on how it does work....The purpose is for it to work like a treadmill, only there is no bottom for them to touch down on, so yes they're supposed to swim in place or hell they can try to do turn arounds if they wish. They sell them big enough so the dog can't get out but the dog has room to move around, that's what I like about them. Those little pools I think you're talking about are easy for the dogs to get out of unless you'e speaking of something I don't know about. Oh and yes it will also cool them down while working them out. Like I said though they make them pretty big and it's cheaper and easier and a better workout than a mill, IMO.

[chinasmom]

Heck, I use those to bath and dip my dogs in. Not much swimming room there.;)

[Scratchy]

I think that tank would be too small to be of any use. I think if you buy one of those little backyard pools you might benefit more.

Or, build a pool.....Hopscotch loves the pool!

http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/2/6/6/3/June52005002resized.jpg
Build a pool? When I buy a house, not ready though. I guess you would have to see the tanks in person to know they can fit 2 dogs in there. They have different sizes ya know?

[clutch billups]

The purpose is for it to work like a treadmill, only there is no bottom for them to touch down on, so yes they're supposed to swim in place or hell they can try to do turn arounds if they wish. They sell them big enough so the dog can't get out but the dog has room to move around, that's what I like about them. Those little pools I think you're talking about are easy for the dogs to get out of unless you'e speaking of something I don't know about. Oh and yes it will also cool them down while working them out. Like I said though they make them pretty big and it's cheaper and easier and a better workout than a mill, IMO.

now again this is just my opinion but i think unless you put the dog in there as a puppy his main goal would be to try and get out and if hes forced to stay and swim in there i think it would create a bad experince for the dog and then he would relate that tank to something bad

i just really dont think the dog will be able to figure out why the heck hes in this little tank ... now a pool well theres swim room so thats play time for the dog where as a little tank (unless used for bathing) is just to closed in and i really think it would freak the dog out cause he couldnt touch bottom and everytime he tried to get out he was pushed back in because your thinking of "working him" now i dont know if this was your plan its just how i "pictured it"

as far as those pools well the guy i saw use one always had to pull the dog out so i dont think there would be any fear of him getting out untill playtime is over

now again IM NOT JUDGING just trying to help this is all JMHO

[Scratchy]

now again this is just my opinion but i think unless you put the dog in there as a puppy his main goal would be to try and get out and if hes forced to stay and swim in there i think it would create a bad experince for the dog and then he would relate that tank to something bad

i just really dont think the dog will be able to figure out why the heck hes in this little tank ... now a pool well theres swim room so thats play time for the dog where as a little tank (unless used for bathing) is just to closed in and i really think it would freak the dog out cause he couldnt touch bottom and everytime he tried to get out he was pushed back in because your thinking of "working him" now i dont know if this was your plan its just how i "pictured it"

as far as those pools well the guy i saw use one always had to pull the dog out so i dont think there would be any fear of him getting out untill playtime is over

now again IM NOT JUDGING just trying to help this is all JMHO
Well I wouldnt recommend using this type of conditioning measures on a pup in the first place. How could this any different from securing a dog to a mill and enticing it to run? That's why I said it needs to be supervised. Pushed back in? That sounds harsh. Hold your dogs favorite toy or treat in front of him/her just like if they were on a mill and time them. 15 minutes. The methods are the same, but like I said swimming, IMO, is a better way to condition.
Like I've said I've seen them before at the feed store but never thought or even knew the real purpose of them and still don't but I see now what they could used for towards excercising. I like the idea personally and will et you guys know how it goes.

[Attila]

I use a two hundred gallon one. drive to post in the ground and nale a post across to hook a harness in place just like a tred mill. Never leave the dog alone, watch it every second. Don't let it become exhausted and asparate on water. Works great. the smaller ones let the feet touch the bottom and are not really wide enough or long enough. Get them at a tractor supply or feed supply. those rubber made ones are five times the price of a regular one. And the regular ones last lots longer.

[clutch billups]

Well I wouldnt recommend using this type of conditioning measures on a pup in the first place. How could this any different from securing a dog to a mill and enticing it to run? That's why I said it needs to be supervised. Pushed back in? That sounds harsh. Hold your dogs favorite toy or treat in front of him/her just like if they were on a mill and time them. 15 minutes. The methods are the same, but like I said swimming, IMO, is a better way to condition.
Like I've said I've seen them before at the feed store but never thought or even knew the real purpose of them and still don't but I see now what they could used for towards excercising. I like the idea personally and will et you guys know how it goes.
alright but let me say one thing .... i would only put a pup in to get him used to the whole idea of it in no way would i condition a pup like that (ie..) bath the pup in there, play with the pup in there, put the pup in there and let him cool off on a hot day... just thought id clear that up ....

and good luck let me know how it works its kinda hard to get the whole point of your idea with out seeing it first hand maybe then i would agree a lil more http://www.game-dog.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Scratchy]

I use a two hundred gallon one. drive to post in the ground and nale a post across to hook a harness in place just like a tred mill. Never leave the dog alone, watch it every second. Don't let it become exhausted and asparate on water. Works great. the smaller ones let the feet touch the bottom and are not really wide enough or long enough. Get them at a tractor supply or feed supply. those rubber made ones are five times the price of a regular one. And the regular ones last lots longer.
My neighbor was talking about getting the metal one, but I like this one since you can easily drain the water. I didn't see that on the other ones. Of course there will be supervision, my dogs are my kids, know what I mean. Thanks for the good feedback!

[Attila]

alright but let me say one thing .... i would only put a pup in to get him used to the whole idea of it in no way would i condition a pup like that (ie..) bath the pup in there, play with the pup in there, put the pup in there and let him cool off on a hot day... just thought id clear that up ....

and good luck let me know how it works its kinda hard to get the whole point of your idea with out seeing it first hand maybe then i would agree a lil more http://www.game-dog.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif
I wouldn't condition a little pup in a tank but starting about 5-6 months I would start getting it warmed up to it. Then start hitting it stronger at a year and full out at about 18-24 months.

[Scratchy]

alright but let me say one thing .... i would only put a pup in to get him used to the whole idea of it in no way would i condition a pup like that (ie..) bath the pup in there, play with the pup in there, put the pup in there and let him cool off on a hot day... just thought id clear that up ....

and good luck let me know how it works its kinda hard to get the whole point of your idea with out seeing it first hand maybe then i would agree a lil more http://www.game-dog.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif
Expand your mind in the sense as if it's a treadmill, only it has water and the dog is using more of its' muscles. Just like that, see!

[clutch billups]

I use a two hundred gallon one. drive to post in the ground and nale a post across to hook a harness in place just like a tred mill. Never leave the dog alone, watch it every second. Don't let it become exhausted and asparate on water. Works great. the smaller ones let the feet touch the bottom and are not really wide enough or long enough. Get them at a tractor supply or feed supply. those rubber made ones are five times the price of a regular one. And the regular ones last lots longer.
NOW it makes sense ... it took me a min but i got it .... just out of curiosity what are the demensions attila ??

[Scratchy]

NOW it makes sense ... it took me a min but i got it .... just out of curiosity what are the demensions attila ??
That is too funny. All it took was a reputable member and BOOM........ you understand. He said the same thing I had been telling you but maybe you didn't want to hear what I was saying. It must be that selective listening, we all have it, don't we. I can't hear you.

[BoogiemanBlood]

let me know because I was thinking of purchacing a treadmill and if it works I would go that route. Also I got a friend that is going to be making me a jimmy where I can work 4 dogs at once.what's a jimmy?

[FearlessKnight]

That is too funny. All it took was a reputable member and BOOM........ you understand. He said the same thing I had been telling you but maybe you didn't want to hear what I was saying. It must be that selective listening, we all have it, don't we. I can't hear you.
Yes, but the difference is Attila is using one twice as big! ;) A little bit different!

BoogiemanBlood:
I think he meant a Jenny! :D

[Scratchy]

Yes, but the difference is Attila is using one twice as big! ;) A little bit different!

BoogiemanBlood:
I think he meant a Jenny! :DI said they come in different sizes too! Attila is actually just using one that is 100g more.
This isn't the first time I see people jump on the band wagon here. I'm not mad at'em though. Like I said, I think it's funny.

[clutch billups]

That is too funny. All it took was a reputable member and BOOM........ you understand. He said the same thing I had been telling you but maybe you didn't want to hear what I was saying. It must be that selective listening, we all have it, don't we. I can't hear you.

thats great someone dissagrees with him cause he cant explain himself and hes the first one to try and start crap lmfao ..... wow i support human culling

[Attila]

My neighbor was talking about getting the metal one, but I like this one since you can easily drain the water. I didn't see that on the other ones. Of course there will be supervision, my dogs are my kids, know what I mean. Thanks for the good feedback!
Mine are pvc as well, black and with a drain plug. not metal. However the metal ones of that size have a drain too. I just don't like dealing with the folds and rust issues. That galvanizing doesn't last forever and I have worked with galvanized metal. it is a toxic substance and I just don't trust it as the animals do drink that water sometimes.

[Attila]

NOW it makes sense ... it took me a min but i got it .... just out of curiosity what are the demensions attila ??
3'x5'x3'......

[Attila]

what's a jimmy?
that is Sedalia's way of saying Genny.

[MoEttaWinnyMOM]

MY alternative solution (i hope). i just ordered a small above ground pool for my girl with leg problems. it is about 7.5 feet by 5 feet and 2.2 feet deep. i got her a life vest so she isnt paddling like crazy and can swim at a nice pace for a longer time. i am gunna have hubby make a bungie device to attach to the vest from both sides of the pool so she can swim and have some wiggle room but not much and of course i will closely supervise--kinda like a poor mans endless pool. lol. this one was one hundred plus 50 pics for the filter. a filter is nice because it wont get yucky as quick! i will prob try my boy (the one that doesnt hate water) in it as well.


http://www.redspools.com/Playapincho56041_small.JPG

[clutch billups]

3'x5'x3'......

well that makes a little more sense ... from what i could tell that wash tub dude was talking about just didnt seem like it would cut the mustard ... also rigging up something to hook a harness too made the whole thing come together in my mind .... thanx for being such a reputable member attila i guess that gives you the power to explain things properly or maybe im just crazy .... who knows....

[Attila]

That is too funny. All it took was a reputable member and BOOM........ you understand. He said the same thing I had been telling you but maybe you didn't want to hear what I was saying. It must be that selective listening, we all have it, don't we. I can't hear you.
I am just a member. Older and have been in the breed for a great many years, but joined just like you on this site. In time, all in time my brother. I don't think there is anything special about me or anything less special about others. I hope that makes you feel better.

going with the larger tank makes it a whole lot easier and more effective. Plus you can use the tanks for many more things too. Dipping, bathing, filling with ice, beer and cokes. even fill it with water and sit it on the deck and catch a nap in it on a hot day. lol I have a smaller one I used for the sheep before I got rid of them. Oh and I also use it for welping pups. Easy to clean and sanitize. pups can't get out and wander all over the house pooping and peeing. They are great. I think I paid $49 for the big one and $32 for the smaller one. I think the smaller is a 110 gallon one. It was too small for the swimming as the dogs could get a paw up on the side and touch bottom. They stop then. It is a good way to water the lawn. lol

[Scratchy]

thats great someone dissagrees with him cause he cant explain himself and hes the first one to try and start crap lmfao ..... wow i support human culling
I just thought it was funny that I explained how it would work like a treadmill and went into details for you, but you didn't get it until someone more familiar came along. I wasn't starting crap. Well, then again I was having my own laugh at you, so maybe you could consider that starting crap, it was all in fun for me(still is). Sorry you're so sensitive!

[Scratchy]

MY alternative solution (i hope). i just ordered a small above ground pool for my girl with leg problems. it is about 7.5 feet by 5 feet and 2.2 feet deep. i got her a life vest so she isnt paddling like crazy and can swim at a nice pace for a longer time. i am gunna have hubby make a bungie device to attach to the vest from both sides of the pool so she can swim and have some wiggle room but not much and of course i will closely supervise--kinda like a poor mans endless pool. lol. this one was one hundred plus 50 pics for the filter. a filter is nice because it wont get yucky as quick! i will prob try my boy (the one that doesnt hate water) in it as well.
I like the life vest idea, it only makes sense too.


http://www.redspools.com/Playapincho56041_small.JPG

[Attila]

well that makes a little more sense ... from what i could tell that wash tub dude was talking about just didnt seem like it would cut the mustard ... also rigging up something to hook a harness too made the whole thing come together in my mind .... thanx for being such a reputable member attila i guess that gives you the power to explain things properly or maybe im just crazy .... who knows....
Thanks.

Hey what is the weather like now up there? any sight of some warmer weather trolling along? I hope so.

[MoEttaWinnyMOM]

I like the life vest idea, it only makes sense too.


http://www.redspools.com/Playapincho56041_small.JPGill keep you all posted in the next few weeks when the pool arrives and we get the set up as to weather my hair brained scheme works or not! hoping to do some video. will be great for my girls leg and i think just great conditioning with that vest so they can keep a nice long pace.

[clutch billups]

I just thought it was funny that I explained how it would work like a treadmill and went into details for you, but you didn't get it until someone more familiar came along. I wasn't starting crap. Well, then again I was having my own laugh at you, so maybe you could consider that starting crap, it was all in fun for me(still is). Sorry you're so sensitive!
thin skin what can i say .... i guess i let my emotions get the best of me... i was all broken up about it i mean its not every day someone on the internet starts crap with me my god i just really wish we could all get along it breaks my fragile little heart when someone cant explain them selves or what they are talking about, seems to happen all the time.... now i guess ill quit being such a smart ass and tell you in my opinion where you went wrong in explaining the whole process to me

first IMO your tank was way too small that was your first problem

second... you never once mentioned using a harness rigg so the entire time im picturing this dog in the wash tub all flayling around trying to get out...

and then this reputable members decided to help you out and BOOM i jumped on the band wagon ...funny how that worked out really seems to me you wanted me to get your point and when i did you jumped my shit ... was it because you couldnt properly explain it .... or are you just that type of person either way i really could care less im glad your a good dog owner and as far as im concerned were both wasting time doing anything except trying to help each other out..... witch is (if you dont remember) exsactly what i was trying to do....

ps.. ive got a 400gall tank if your interested cause i think that might work out a little better for ya.... just a suggestion

[clutch billups]

Thanks.

Hey what is the weather like now up there? any sight of some warmer weather trolling along? I hope so.

well it snowed the other day but it melted as of today... thank god and the warmer weather is still about a week or so away... maybe longer i just cant wait till i can walk around in a tee and some shorts man im sick of this winter crap but there seems to be some good weather in sight so i guess thank god for that .... then again i could live in AZ and not have to worry to much about scraping windows, shovling 3 or more feet of snow, defrosting windows on cars, praying my rods dont snap when i start my car on a -18 below morning , you know the typical michigan crap but it comes with the territory .... and again good weather is coming ....

[Attila]

well it snowed the other day but it melted as of today... thank god and the warmer weather is still about a week or so away... maybe longer i just cant wait till i can walk around in a tee and some shorts man im sick of this winter crap but there seems to be some good weather in sight so i guess thank god for that .... then again i could live in AZ and not have to worry to much about scraping windows, shovling 3 or more feet of snow, defrosting windows on cars, praying my rods dont snap when i start my car on a -18 below morning , you know the typical michigan crap but it comes with the territory .... and again good weather is coming ....
Well when it shows up I will roll up. I may come strait up to your place. If I can drive that long that is. That is a very long trip from here. I do want to go see the falls and do some fishing if I can.

[clutch billups]

Well when it shows up I will roll up. I may come strait up to your place. If I can drive that long that is. That is a very long trip from here. I do want to go see the falls and do some fishing if I can.

im tellin ya bring your tackle box ive got a real sweet "honey hole" chucked full of fish on boney falls? you ever been? any way i see some beer , fish and some good laughs comin our way... and you cant forget the "shop talk" anyway i look forward to it ...

[Attila]

im tellin ya bring your tackle box ive got a real sweet "honey hole" chucked full of fish on boney falls? you ever been? any way i see some beer , fish and some good laughs comin our way... and you cant forget the "shop talk" anyway i look forward to it ...
yup sure have. have to bring a small grill to pan fry some. Beer and talking shop is my favorite thing to do. lol