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lipshipsattitude
04-13-2007, 12:10 PM
I have been intested in the Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog for some time....not to own just in general. I've never seen one in real life but whats the deal with these guys? They really resemble the Olde English Bulldog. Are they a true breed from back in the day or are they a product of modern manipulation for bigger badder bulldogs?
I tried to find some history on these guys so thats why I ask here!




Attila
04-13-2007, 12:14 PM
I don't think they are pure at all.

lipshipsattitude
04-13-2007, 12:19 PM
I don't think they are pure at all.
WellI have no idea either way so any insight would be much appreciated. I'm pretty much looking for facts ya know?

bigcespits
04-13-2007, 12:20 PM
I don't think they are pure at all.

I agree with you 100%

Attila
04-13-2007, 12:23 PM
probably mixes of english and american bull dog.

lipshipsattitude
04-13-2007, 12:46 PM
probably mixes of english and american bull dog.
Any people out there who actually know what they are talking about? Like with resources....ya know facts
I've googled, looked at breeders (not that I want one, just intersted) and there is hardly any info out there

Grizzly
04-13-2007, 12:59 PM
Well I see wher your name, haha

Any people out there who actually know what they are talking about? Like with resources....ya know facts
I've googled, looked at breeders (not that I want one, just intersted) and there is hardly any info out there

Use this link. It will take you to info on the
breed.http://www.moloss.com/001/breed/a/a001/

Roach
04-13-2007, 01:03 PM
The Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog is the result of many years of effort toward rescuing an almost extinct breed, the old timey "plantation dog" of the Alapaha River region of South Georgia. They were very large, males were usually approximately 90 pounds, very protective of their property, that being whatever their master instructed them as theirs to keep guard over. They were very possessive of their "family"; also, highly intelligent and easily trained.

My granddaddy, PaPa Buck Lane, always had an "Otto". Otto looked after family, house estate, and when in the woods at work, he kept watch over that operation.

PaPa Buck Lane was killed December 17, 1943 by a train. Otto was found on many occasions sitting on PaPa buck Lane's grave. How did he know which grave? All we know is that Otto continued his ever faithful duties to his "undying" master. He continued his duties until an untimely death from a broken heart. Otto would only allow family to come to the grave.

One Otto took a wife and moved her in under the maid's quarters. He carried her food from the "Big House". He continued even after the babies were born. As they got older, he would ease them out, one at a time, to show them around and for short "kindergarten guard and obedience" classes. So, see you really don't need professional guard and obedience training.

Meet Henry, Ashburn's Baretta - by Vicki Brown, Staff Reporter of the Wiregrass Farmer. Henry has been getting state-wide attention ever since he prevented a burglary attempt on his residence at the Strickland's Shell Oil Station early last Wednesday morning, August 10.

Henry is a 100-pound bulldog and he is credited with not only stopping an armed robbery attempt by also saving the life of the night attendant, Hubert Nipper.

The attempt occured on Wednesday morning at aobut 3:30a.m. when two men entered the station office with a sawed-off shotgun. Henry was aroused as the men entered and jumped at the first man knocking both to the ground.

Apparently this attack from the huge bulldog was enough to disorient the robbers as they fled the scene without harm to Nipper.

The Strickland brothers own the dog and have kept him most of his life at the station where he has prevented other burglary attempts.

"He once jumped through a plate glass door in the station office in his rush to attack a burglar," one of the brothers said.

Bulldogs were bred to catch bulls. "They hurl themselves at the bull and grab at the nose and flip them over using their weight as leverage."

Henry once did this with a horse and lost a few teeth in his effort. But the teeth he had lef tfor last Wednesday's occurrence and the weight behind those teeth were enough to chase the robbers away for some 30 miles before their apprehension by police.

In overall personality, the almost 11 year old Henry rates a high score. His daily activities around the satation are generally to relax and enjoy the patrons. at times the Strickland brothers even let him have a cigarette.

The story above was printed in the Wiregrass Farmer.

lipshipsattitude
04-13-2007, 01:12 PM
Ooh what a neat story! I just thought they were cool because that is what so many pit bull people strive for nowadays but the overgrown pit bull of today has so many issues with their hips and legs not being proprtionate to their bodies and suffering from to many hip, joint, and bone problems. Oh my....dont let a RE bredder get ahold of one of these.....ouch we'd be in for it, haha. Any news on their origin?

Scotsman
04-13-2007, 01:34 PM
From what I have they supposedly are go back to Pre-Civil War, the problem is I could never find a good source. Then someone told me they popped up in the 1920's with a story going back to plantation times in the South.
I've seen a couple of them and they weren't the nicest dogs.

lipshipsattitude
04-13-2007, 01:45 PM
From what I have they supposedly are go back to Pre-Civil War, the problem is I could never find a good source. Then someone told me they popped up in the 1920's with a story going back to plantation times in the South.
I've seen a couple of them and they weren't the nicest dogs.
HHHmmm. we have a mystery on our hands. I see a huge resemlance to the Old English Bulldog no?
And whats up with those? Are they still real? Still around? I've never seen one of those either, damn I'm on the wrong coast, haha!

Scotsman
04-13-2007, 02:32 PM
I think they come from the same type of breeding as the AB's do. The original bulldog is long dead. I think the Blue Blood's are a cross between several different breeds, boxer, mastiff, APBT, maybe some some English Bulldog.

lipshipsattitude
04-13-2007, 02:34 PM
Wow what a mess

CHATNJACK
04-18-2007, 01:23 AM
A BRIEF ARF HISTORY:
LANA LOU LANE’S ALAPAHA BLUE BLOOD BULLDOGS ©



By Al Walker, ARF Genealogist & Registrar



To All Enthusiasts,

July, 2001, Ms. Lana Lou Lane, 1947-2001, the originator of the breed known as the, ALAPAHA BLUE BLOOD BULLDOG, passed away. However, approximately 15 years prior to her death, she contacted the ARF, and she spoke to its founder, the late Mr. Tom D. Stodghill, in regards to registering and preserving her breed, in perpetuity. In November of 1986, the ARF registered the first of many ALAPAHA BLUE BLOOD BULLDOGS that came from her kennel.

As a businesswoman, Ms. Lane knew that if the world was going to learn of her breed of bulldog, she would have to have a "recognized registry" to register her bulldogs, an advertising plan, and a dog-showing plan. Therefore, she chose the Animal Research Foundation, ARF, to register her dogs, "Dog World Magazine", for national exposure, and, she chose Ms. Jane Otterbein, to show her dogs in rare breed venues. Further, she produced her own video tape [which is still available, from the ARF], and other printed matter, as a means of marketing her breed to prospective buyers.

Further, Ms. Lane created a kennel name for herself, which she referred to as, "Circle L Kennels" / "Circle L Farms". On her Kennel/Farm, she owned, bred and raised a number of breeds of canines, some of which were Rat Terriers, Toy Fox Terriers, American Pit Bull Terriers [a/k/a American Staffordshire Terriers], Catahoulas, American Bulldogs, and an "American Bulldog/Catahoula" cross, known as a "Catahoula Bulldog". However, her number-one-selling dog was her ARF-registered, "old timey plantation dog", which she named the "ALAPAHA BLUE BLOOD BULLDOG", so named for the Alapaha River Region of South Georgia, which passed near her home in Rebecca, Georgia. Therefore, the afore-mentioned bulldog that Ms. Lane saved, to the best of our research, contains canine genes coming from the early "Colonial American Bulldog" [which is the original "American Bulldog" or "Old English White", that was brought to America by the 17th century colonists], and other "Old World Canine Genes", that make up today’s "American Pit Bull" and "Catahoula Leopard". However, it’s the dominate "Colonial American Bulldog" gene that makes this dog so great; but, needless-to-say, it is the recessive gene colors of the "American Pit Bull" and "Catahoula Leopard" that add to the dog’s beauty. You can see these recessive colors appear in her "Blue Merle" & "Silver Dollar" Alapahas".

In Ms. Lane’s early childhood days, she heard her parents, grandparents, relatives, and neighbors, refer to these "old timey" bulldogs by various names, such as "OTTO DOGS", "OLD TIMEY PLANTATION BULLDOGS", "OLD SOUTHERN BULLDOGS", "OLD ENGLISH WHITES", "AMERICAN BULLDOGS", or just plain "BULLDOGS". Since these "old timey bulldogs" were not readily available to the general public, she employed the help of a number of individuals, to help her in her dog selection, training, and "Dog Showing". Some of these individuals included Ms. Jane Otterbein, for "Dog Showing", and Mr. Mike Connors, Mr. Marker Ray Nicholas, and Mr. John Conners, as her dog breeders, handlers, and trainers.

A special note to the reader: On Tuesday morning, April 28, 1992, Ms. Lane was in her home, when it caught fire. As a result of that fire, Ms. Lane’s Foundation sire, "Lana’s Marcelle Lane", ARF Reg. No.: ABBB12M, died, and, Ms. Lane was badly burned [3rd degree burns over 30% of her body]. From that day forward, Ms. Lane was under a doctor’s care, for she suffered a great deal from her burns and disfigurement. To help relieve her pain, her doctor prescribed pain pills, as well as other prescription drugs, that affected her memory and attitude towards others. As a result of her memory loss, she wrote in her last brochure, the following statement: "The Alapaha is not the same dog as American Bulldog and not to be confused with them, or to be cross bred with them." Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldogs, Page 5, Lana Lou Lane. However, this statement contradicts the fact that she purchased a 50-50 "American Bulldog/Pit Bull" cross, from Mr. James McDuffie, and she ARF-registered this dog, which she called, "Marcelle", ARF Reg. No. 1776, on April 15, 1986, eight months prior to renaming the dog "Lana’s Marcelle Lane", with a new Alapaha ARF Reg. Number, being ABBB12M, registered Dec. 12, 1986. Therefore, "Lana’s Marcelle Lane", ARF Reg. No.: ABBB12M, and "Marcelle", ARF. Reg. No.: 1776, are one and the same dog. Further, on January 11, 1997, Ms. Lane notified me of a 100% American Bulldog that she had acquired, and was then using in her breeding program. This dog’s name was "Arnold’s Codi", NKC Reg. No.: C026-602, and was bred by Marvin Arnold. With a copy of "Codi’s" NKC Certificate of Registration, Ms. Lane sent me a note, stating: "Al, Send reg. papers on "Lana’s Codi Arnold", as one of the "litter application". Please call me when you get this so I may explain. Thanks Lana" Again, Ms. Lane did use an "American Bulldog" [an "Old English White"], in her Alapaha breeding program.

When Ms. Lane began sending in her ARF-paperwork, to have her bulldogs registered as "Alapahas", she had very-little-to-no ancestry on the dogs that she registered; therefore, all of her original Alapaha breeding stock was "Merit" registered. The reason being, most of the old farmers of South Georgia did not care if their bulldogs were registered or not. Therefore, if Farmer Brown had a litter of bulldog pups, and, his neighbor, Farmer Jones, wanted one, he gave him one on the condition that when his bulldog had pups, he would get a pup back. So, by this method of trading, bulldog pups were spread over many southern Georgia counties, including other southern states.

In searching for her particular type of bulldog, she knew what she was looking for, so she produced a breed standard that would primarily describe her bulldogs; males weighing 70 to 90 pounds, and females weighing 50 to 70 pounds. Many of today’s American Bulldogs weigh upwards to 130, even to 150 pounds; therefore, the variety of "American Bulldog" that Ms. Lane selected, for her "Alapaha" breeding program, was the "Old English White". But, since she declared a solid white bulldog as being an undesirable color, these were crossed with colored bulldogs, creating a desirable "Blue Merle and White", etc.

The mystery that seems to worry so many people is, "Where did Ms. Lane find her bulldogs?" Most of her dogs were found within 75 to 100 miles of her home; however, Mr. John Conners, of Georgia, helped Ms. Lane to obtain other American Bulldogs, which she used in her breeding program, as well. In the years that Ms. Lane bred and sold her dogs, only a very select few purchased "breedable" Alapahas from her; therefore, if you wanted an Alapaha, you had to purchase it from her, or from Ms. Jane Otterbein, Mr. Joe Shay, Mr. John Conners, Mr. Mike Connors, Mr. Marker Nicholas, or Mr. Carlos Amaral. Later, through the above breeders, other breeders were added to the ARF-Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog Breeders’ List, all having Alapahas coming directly out of Lana Lou Lane’s Circle L Kennels.

(CONTINUED)

CHATNJACK
04-18-2007, 01:26 AM
(PART II)

Since, Ms. Lane’s passing, in 2001, we knew that we would be faced with many challenges, coming from all parts of the USA, and outside; therefore, people like you want to know the future of the ARF-registered Alapaha. Presently, we now file the Alapaha into different categories, which are …



1. Alapahas that have come directly from Ms. Lane, or descendents that have come from Ms. Lane’s Alapahas: All these Alapahas will have ARF registration numbers, beginning with the letters "ABBB". However, a breeder needs to keep in mind, one cannot perpetually keep breeding back to Ms. Lane’s Alapahas, without the dogs becoming very inbred. Therefore, other bloodlines must be introduced to keep the breed strong. This now leads us to the next category, number 2.

2. In regards to the “new” Alapahas, that have not yet been ARF-registered, but still meet the Alapaha Breed Standard: When these “new” Alapahas are ARF-registered, they will be supplied with an ARF registration number, beginning with the number “2”, meaning second generation of Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldogs. Therefore, the ARF registration numbers, for this second generation of “new” Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldogs, will read as follows: “2ABBB_ _ _ _”. However, all first generation Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldogs, descending from Ms. Lana Lou Lane’s kennel, their ARF registration numbers will remain the same, as always, beginning with the letters “ABBB_ _ _ _”.



The next question you might ask, where are these "new" Alapaha additions to come from? Primarily, they can only come from a few sources. The ARF-recommended sources are, from Mr. Joe Shay, Mr. Mike Connors, Mr. John Mims, Mr. James Orr, and Mr. Jesse Kelly. Also, I would like to mention our breeders that have Alapahas, which are descendents from Ms. Lane’s original stock. These ARF breeders are, Mr. Carlos Amaral, Mr. Rick & Linda Daiber, Ms. Jo Hutchison, Mr. Jack & Jo Kemp, and Mr. Daniel Klien. However, in the future, we shall see more and more breeders join our ARF-list of approved breeders, and their names will be added for future Alapaha puppy acquisition.

In closing, we will see and experience inevitable changes, but the breed will still be called "Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldogs", in memory of Lana Lou Lane. Therefore, I trust this "Brief History" will answer many of your questions, in regards to the future continuation of the breed. ARF is now entering its 21st year with the breed, as we celebrate our 60th year of animal husbandy; therefore, we invite you to become an "Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog" enthusiast, by owning one of these great bulldogs.


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CHATNJACK
04-18-2007, 01:31 AM
Here's some more info for you...

IMPORTANT INFORMATION
ON THE
ALAPAHA BLUE BLOOD BULLDOG©



By Al Walker, ARF Genealogist & Registrar

More and more, we are receiving requests about this breed that often requires more than just a simple answer by phone, or by e-mail. Therefore, in a "most frequently asked questions" format, I will do my best to answer many of your questions.



1. How did the "Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog" name originate?

The answer to this question was provided to the Animal Research Foundation by Mrs. Vivian Lane, Lana Lou Lane’s mother, in a notarized letter. She states,

"Lana Lou Lane was the originator of the "Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldogs". In about 1982, after she had accumulated quite a few of these bulldogs, she decided she needed to give them a name.
"One afternoon, she and I were sitting in my den discussing the bulldogs when she came up with, ‘Let’s name my dogs "Alapahas" since they came from the Alapaha region, and the Alapaha River runs behind our property.’ I said, ‘I like that name a lot.’ Then she said, ‘How about "Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldogs?"’ I replied that I thought the name was great. So, that is how Lana named her bulldogs. S/ Vivian Lane"



2. When and where was the first "Alapaha" registered?

Mr. Tom D. Stodghill, 1903-1989, Founder of the Animal Research Foundation [ARF], registered the first "Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog" for Ms. Lane, in November 1986.



3. Where can I find information on the "Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog"?

For published books, video and web site, the following can be found in book stores, and from the ARF.



"The Story of the Real Bulldog", by Robert Jenkins & Ken Mollett, TFH publication, Pages 156 & 157. [Available from ARF]

"The Mini-Atlas of Dog Breeds", by Andrew De Prisco & James B. Johnson, Page 112. [Available from ARF]

Web site information:

www.arfusa.com (http://www.arfusa.com/) , see Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog

Video: "Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog", Produced by Ms. Lana Lou Lane [Available from ARF]

4. How can I obtain the "Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog’s" breed standard, as it was written by Ms. Lana Lou Lane?



To obtain the "Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog" breed standard from the ARF, you can send an e-mail to the ARF, at stodghills.arf@juno.com (stodghills.arf@juno.com), and ask that the "Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog" breed standard be attached and returned to you. We will be more than pleased to do this for you. However, if you do not have access to a computer, we can mail or fax you the information.



5. Is it possible to speak to Ms. Lana Lou Lane, the Alapaha originator?

No. Ms. Lane passed away, July 2001.



6. What happened to her dogs?

Ms. Lane’s mother, Mrs. Vivian T. Lane , took over her dogs; however, being in ill health, and, due to her age, her doctor counseled her to quit the dog business. Therefore, her late daughter’s dogs were sold; but, at a very low price, as the dogs were old and in very poor condition.



7. What should I do if I see an "Alapaha" advertised in a dog magazine?

Contact the ARF; not all "Alapahas" that are being advertised are "Alapahas". Therefore, our advice to you is very simple – BUYER BEWARE!!!



8. Are there any "Registries" that I should be wary of?

Yes!!!



9. Where are these "Registries" located?

In California, and in Florida.



10. What is the difference between the "Registries" in California, Florida, and the ARF, in Texas?

The "Registries" in California and Florida are privately owned. The owners breed their own dogs, they sell their own dogs, and they register their own dogs. The ARF does not own, breed, or sell Alapahas! We have registered Alapahas for more than 20 years, and for many different breeders, including the late Ms. Lana Lou Lane. The other registries cannot produce even one document that has an original signature of Ms. Lane, giving them authorization to register anything. Further, the individuals who own these California and Florida "Registries", operate under various names, so that they can hide their true identities from you. Therefore, again, our advice to you is very simple - BEWARE OF MEN who wear "sheep skins", but are "wolves".

Attila
04-18-2007, 09:32 AM
And you insulted me by saying I didn't know what I was saying. They are a mutt pure and simple like I said to you at first. Not till you got the million mile trip to what was speculated to make them did you believe it. Dag gum kids.

Attila
04-19-2007, 05:52 AM
Any people out there who actually know what they are talking about? Like with resources....ya know facts
I've googled, looked at breeders (not that I want one, just intersted) and there is hardly any info out thereScrew you. It is a damn mutt and your a ungratefull little brat. Go get your mutt. it will be just like you, worthless. I know more about dogs than you know about a damn thing. you can go strait to hell.
In the hardware section you can get you some rope. Do so.

PitBull_30
04-19-2007, 06:26 AM
Screw you. It is a damn mutt and your a ungratefull little brat. Go get your mutt. it will be just like you, worthless. I know more about dogs than you know about a damn thing. you can go strait to hell.
In the hardware section you can get you some rope. Do so.
Bahahaha!!! Ok, I know you're not joking but that shit is still funny. Tell us how you feel, Wilhiem. :D

PitBull_30
04-19-2007, 06:28 AM
vBulletin MessageYou must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Attila Magyar again.

XxKonnectionsxX
04-19-2007, 07:01 AM
Screw you. It is a damn mutt and your a ungratefull little brat. Go get your mutt. it will be just like you, worthless. I know more about dogs than you know about a damn thing. you can go strait to hell.
In the hardware section you can get you some rope. Do so.

damn you sure are a feisty one... Hmm... And you're the hunter in the woods. You seem barbaric..where are you from?

Chef-Kergin
04-19-2007, 07:32 AM
Screw you. It is a damn mutt and your a ungratefull little brat. Go get your mutt. it will be just like you, worthless. I know more about dogs than you know about a damn thing. you can go strait to hell.
In the hardware section you can get you some rope. Do so.
"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Attila Magyar again."

Attila
04-19-2007, 07:55 AM
damn you sure are a feisty one... Hmm... And you're the hunter in the woods. You seem barbaric..where are you from?
well I was born in Eger Hungary, raised here in the USA, Michigan in the upper woods till I was 17 then joined the Army I retired march of 2005 after 21 years. I hunted as a kid, and in the Army however the game of my hunt was a little different in the Army. While in the rear I did hunt animals but while doing my job I hunted something normally that didn't have fur. People used to tell me and bitch some that I was barbaric in that too. I suppose it is in my blood. My grandpa retired from the army, was in Hungarian army then came here and joined and spent 35 years in. his dad was, his grandpa, great grandpa and so on back to who knows when. Now I am in the civilian world. And I hunt again on animals to saticfy a strong hunger for the hunt. Now I reside about dead center of the USA. In a nice compound backed up to a snake infested creek on a dead end road. the other place is in a boxed canyon down 27 miles of pig trails.

Michele
04-19-2007, 08:23 AM
damn you sure are a feisty one... Hmm... And you're the hunter in the woods. You seem barbaric..where are you from?\

Attila is not barbaric....he just speaks his mind and that's a wonderful thing.....:)

Attila
04-19-2007, 08:25 AM
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Attila is not barbaric....he just speaks his mind and that's a wonderful thing.....:)
Thanks, you are a wonderful person.

XxKonnectionsxX
04-19-2007, 08:30 AM
well I was born in Eger Hungary, raised here in the USA, Michigan in the upper woods till I was 17 then joined the Army I retired march of 2005 after 21 years. I hunted as a kid, and in the Army however the game of my hunt was a little different in the Army. While in the rear I did hunt animals but while doing my job I hunted something normally that didn't have fur. People used to tell me and bitch some that I was barbaric in that too. I suppose it is in my blood. My grandpa retired from the army, was in Hungarian army then came here and joined and spent 35 years in. his dad was, his grandpa, great grandpa and so on back to who knows when. Now I am in the civilian world. And I hunt again on animals to saticfy a strong hunger for the hunt. Now I reside about dead center of the USA. In a nice compound backed up to a snake infested creek on a dead end road. the other place is in a boxed canyon down 27 miles of pig trails.Cool. Yeah I thought you were. I could tell by your name and the picture you chose for your avatar. I like your personality. Kinda reminds me of mine in a way.

I did not grow up a hunter, but I like to hunt. I guess its in my blood. I like to hunt all types of things.. Not just fur either.. I come from a family of warriors,hunters, and royalty. My dad's father was African and he was an African King there who moved here with his family help keep the blood going. So that makes my dad a prince. My dad's mother, was half asian and half indian as well. She was highly spiritual and good with medicines. Most of her ancestors were either from Asia or from Alaska.

So I'm into swords, knives, or any hand weapon for that matter. I can learn to use just about anything as a weapon in a matter of minutes...haha Bar stool, tooth pick, tree stump, etc.... Even though I grew up an artist, I still have these warrior instincts. I have heightened eyesight (when I want to), hearing, physical awareness, and other things that normal people do not get to experience or are not aware of. And as I'm getting older, my desire for physical combat and warfare,hunting,and gamedogs are getting greater.. lol

Thats just a part of me...

Thanks for the reply and nice to meet you..

Attila
04-19-2007, 08:51 AM
Cool. Yeah I thought you were. I could tell by your name and the picture you chose for your avatar. I like your personality. Kinda reminds me of mine in a way.

I did not grow up a hunter, but I like to hunt. I guess its in my blood. I like to hunt all types of things.. Not just fur either.. I come from a family of warriors,hunters, and royalty. My dad's father was African and he was an African King there who moved here with his family help keep the blood going. So that makes my dad a prince. My dad's mother, was half asian and half indian as well. She was highly spiritual and good with medicines. Most of her ancestors were either from Asia or from Alaska.

So I'm into swords, knives, or any hand weapon for that matter. I can learn to use just about anything as a weapon in a matter of minutes...haha Bar stool, tooth pick, tree stump, etc.... Even though I grew up an artist, I still have these warrior instincts. I have heightened eyesight (when I want to), hearing, physical awareness, and other things that normal people do not get to experience or are not aware of. And as I'm getting older, my desire for physical combat and warfare,hunting,and gamedogs are getting greater.. lol

Thats just a part of me...

Thanks for the reply and nice to meet you..
Cool me too. Magyar kings though. We do have a Magyar tribe in Northeast Africa. You can find them on the net. Interesting how they do the same things even though they had been separated from the rest of us for a 400 years. And also the Szeckly and other tribes traped to the east in parts of Russia. We will have to meet up some time. Come on up we can go out into,, well my yard lol and wander acres of land hunting.

Attila
04-19-2007, 08:58 AM
Cool. Yeah I thought you were. I could tell by your name and the picture you chose for your avatar. I like your personality. Kinda reminds me of mine in a way.

I did not grow up a hunter, but I like to hunt. I guess its in my blood. I like to hunt all types of things.. Not just fur either.. I come from a family of warriors,hunters, and royalty. My dad's father was African and he was an African King there who moved here with his family help keep the blood going. So that makes my dad a prince. My dad's mother, was half asian and half indian as well. She was highly spiritual and good with medicines. Most of her ancestors were either from Asia or from Alaska.

So I'm into swords, knives, or any hand weapon for that matter. I can learn to use just about anything as a weapon in a matter of minutes...haha Bar stool, tooth pick, tree stump, etc.... Even though I grew up an artist, I still have these warrior instincts. I have heightened eyesight (when I want to), hearing, physical awareness, and other things that normal people do not get to experience or are not aware of. And as I'm getting older, my desire for physical combat and warfare,hunting,and gamedogs are getting greater.. lol

Thats just a part of me...

Thanks for the reply and nice to meet you..
oh and being your mothers kin are from Asia too if you go back far enough we are probably kin any way. They classify us as Eurasian even though we started out just north of Mongolia. What do the brittish and romans know anyway. They wore skirts back then lol.

XxKonnectionsxX
04-19-2007, 12:06 PM
oh and being your mothers kin are from Asia too if you go back far enough we are probably kin any way. They classify us as Eurasian even though we started out just north of Mongolia. What do the brittish and romans know anyway. They wore skirts back then lol.lol..you're right. haha thats funny. Yeah I would love to come visit sometime. Its better than hear in the city. Ifeel out of place here and this is where I grew up.

realonebulldog
04-19-2007, 02:22 PM
I have been intested in the Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog for some time....not to own just in general. I've never seen one in real life but whats the deal with these guys? They really resemble the Olde English Bulldog. Are they a true breed from back in the day or are they a product of modern manipulation for bigger badder bulldogs?
I tried to find some history on these guys so thats why I ask here! I think the AB is A true Bullmastiff. The mix between real old American Mastiffs( importet from UK) and ouer choice of dogs (true Bulldogs). This dogs are not that bad because the origin includes two working-breeds and they are most times selectet for real jobs (hog-catching big game hunting cougar ,bear etc) . The working lines are good the show lines are bad.