Bordeaux blood line??

[maryellen1]

do any of these dogs come red nose?? i am having an arguement on another board a member states that their new 4 month old red nose is a bordreaux pup, and i was wondering if that is part of the line?

also, is the Bordreaux line more DA then others and more hyper?

the other member is only 21, and i think she is in over her head with some of the stuff she is saying, so i want to try to educate her as best as possible

[Envy's Mom]

Yes a boudreaux dog can have a red nose. The color has nothing to do with bloodlines.

Yes these dog can be high strung.

[ABK]

Yes, they come in red nose. They are not as common as the blacks, but Boudreaux dogs come in many different colors.

And yes, they are often very DA as well as very hyper.

[maryellen1]

thank you. do they make good house dogs? cause the girl who has him has him as a house dog. she is young, 21, and i dont know how much experience she has with pitbulls in general to be able to handle a high strung dog. is there any site i can direct her to for the history and makeup of the line?

[ABK]

I cannot speak for anyone else, but all the ones I had were good house dogs. Now outside was another matter. Outside they were barky & destructive, always on the move, digging up the yard, running in circles at the end of their chains or trying to escape from their kennels. But inside the house they were for the most part quiet & relaxed. At least mine were anyway.

As for history, try this:

http://www.game-dog.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17959&highlight=boudreaux+dogs

This is a history of the line allegedly written by one of Mr. B's yard hands. It starts w/ the beginning of the line (the Blind Billy era) & ends w/ Bullyson & his offspring.

[maryellen1]

thanks, but i was looking more for something like:

traits, characteristics, energy, etc... more in laymans terms for a 21 year old regarding temperment, energy, DA , stuff like that.

[Renegade]

I thought any bloodline could throw out a Red nose? am I wrong?

[ABK]

I thought I covered general characteristics of these dogs in my second post. I guess not well enough. Maybe Old Timer of Attila can help you. From what I understand they've had Boudreaux dogs from way back.

[Envy's Mom]

Here is a thread I started about Boudreaux dogs. I got some really good replies. Check this out. http://www.game-dog.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20491&page=2&pp=10

Also if you go to search and search for Boudreaux everything will be there in front of you. Just have the girl do her research and let us know if she figures out she cant handle the dog.

Thanks for trying to help the girl. Tell her to come be part of our community so she can learn even more.

[440rider]

do any of these dogs come red nose?? i am having an arguement on another board a member states that their new 4 month old red nose is a bordreaux pup, and i was wondering if that is part of the line?

also, is the Bordreaux line more DA then others and more hyper?

......depends on what the dog is outcrossed with and what you and others consider a boudreaux dog being there are different strains and crosses of dogs mr B bred. Look at boudreaux scooter..boze dog outted to a creed dog. This dog has a better shot at throwing a red nose dog than say a boudreaux bred dog without that shot of creed through ross red devil...It all depends on the dogs you are referring too...how's the boudreaux dog in ? bred? is it off of a dog from Fb's yard?

[Attila]

They make wonderful House dogs, pets, hunters, buddies, what ever one wants to call it. Notcho is perfect, Gretchen is, all of them. Night shade isn't. She is a horrible house dog. But that happens with all lines, all dog breeds. She just never house trained. Every other dog I have ever had was great, both in and out side.

Temperments. Well what is expected from a game dog. But perfect with people, especially children. Smart, very smart. huggable and all that happy stuff. I love them. What exactly is it you want to know?

[ABK]

You know, I have found some of my Boudreaux dogs were hard to house break.

My Eli females Smokey (age 7) & Tobi (age 3) have just now got to where they won't soil their crate! And we can't leave either one alone loose in the house or it will be mean death to the carpet (& I don't mean by chewing!).

My Eli dogs Panther & Boze on the other hand were great & house broke themselves as puppies.

Go figure. :rolleyes:

[maryellen1]

thanks Attilla, that is more what i wanted to know. how is their DA? does it vary like most apbts? i want to be able to explain to the girl in laymans terms so she understands. she has NO pit experience.

[ABK]

Oh, poor child.

Yes, like anything it varies. If I had to rate it, I would say as a general rule their DA is moderate to high. Of course there are exceptions to the rule but this is a generality of my personal experince.

I have owned around 10 Boudreaux or Boudreaux crosses & I only had 2 that I could trust around other dogs.

[jaystreetsA4]

great info. i love threads like this.

[maryellen1]

the girl got him from a breeder in MA.. i am trying to find out the breeders kennel name so i can let you all know, so this way maybe you can help me help her.

[ABK]

Please get a ped if you can. That would probably be more helpful than anything.

[Attila]

thanks Attilla, that is more what i wanted to know. how is their DA? does it vary like most apbts? i want to be able to explain to the girl in laymans terms so she understands. she has NO pit experience.
well I don't know how tight her dog is. But as for mine, the DA level is quite elevated. She shouldn't be expecting a cucumber. Be more like a habinero.

[MinorThreat]

I had a direct son off Skull and this sucker very high strung, made tons of noise and spent his day hitting his chain like a mad man. Half my friends said he'd be a world beater, the other half said he'd be a dirt nap, the other half were right. First and last time I'll ever spent high dollar on any puppy

My buddy runs Boudreaux dogs pretty much exclusive and for the most part they are high strung

[ABK]

well I don't know how tight her dog is. But as for mine, the DA level is quite elevated. She shouldn't be expecting a cucumber. Be more like a habinero.
Right on Attila. if she wanted a cute little pittie she could take to the dog park, she got the wrong bloodline.

[maryellen1]

i asked her for the pedigree, and am waiting to see if she sends it to me. she posted on another forum that at 4 months old he growled at her while she was picking him up to put him on the couch, and thats where it all started...

[440rider]

They make wonderful House dogs, pets, hunters, buddies, what ever one wants to call it. Notcho is perfect, Gretchen is, all of them. Night shade isn't.

how are your dogs notcho, gretchen and night shade bred up? someone stated you had boudreaux dogs from way back I used to have a tight billy boy/boze dog back some yrs always interested in seeing peds on those dogs.

[maryellen1]

well, after trying to help this 21 year old, here is what she sent to me.... i am done helping her now..

Well seeming how I was there when I picked up my pup and his father dog was out roaming around the hosue and I brought in my 2 year old. and the dog couldn't have cared less. I know who the breeder is. I know your trying to help me but I am well aware of DA and the danger it can develop. Socializing a dog from the begginning can DEFINETELY help with furthur dog aggression issues. Bloodline or not. No dog is born mean, its how you raise them. Not every pit bull has DA. Apparently you aren't socializing them properly. My female who has been socialized since birth has never ONCE shown any sort of DA what so ever. She plays with pommeranians, beagles, malteses, wheaten terriers, dobermans, labs, mutts, and other pit bulls...and what do you know..never ONCE had DA..I am fully aware of the bloodline thank you. For saying the guy was lying to me about no signs of dog aggression. Maybe you should re-evaluate your opinions on Pit bulls cause they are very misconstruded.

[ABK]

Sounds like she is an accident waiting to happen ... did you recommend this site to her?

[Attila]

well, after trying to help this 21 year old, here is what she sent to me.... i am done helping her now..
Another one of them damn idiots that think training and socialization removes nature and genetics. That girl needs to get off her PETA post and pull it out of her ass because that is the biggest self lie there is in any breed, and animal. That really pisses me off. Here you are trying to help her and she insults you. She needs to attend Attila's school of wake the hell up. Class starts on monday. I wonder if we can talk a poll and guess how many times in one year she will be saying oh my God, crying while her dog is properly socializing with another dog.

[maryellen1]

no but i am going to now.. hopefully she will join here.

[ABK]

LMAO!!!! Good post Attila.

maryellen - Let's hope she does join. Maybe she will learn something. But from the way she sounds, she already knows it all.

[NOLEFAN]

i love em......

[pitbullcliff]

You can get just about any color from Boudreaux dogs. Look at Girly's mother, Boudreaux's Matchmaker at the ped below. She is a mostly white dog with a couple brown spots.

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=51233

Boudreaux's Matchmaker came from Floyd's yard.

[Old Timer]

sorry i got in a little late on this thread.well we will start with the first question can a boudreaux dog have a red nose.yes it sure can,they can be any color and have red or black noses they can even be blue just as with any other line.just depends on what genes go to what dog.the majority of them tend to be black or mainly black with some white markings but like i said they can pop up in any color.now onto the next question do they make good house dogs.yes they can be great house dogs but as with any gamebred dog or just any dog for that matter you have to play with it,train it,excersice it,just keep it busy so it doesn't get bored.this line of dogs tend to be very smart and can get bored very easily and thats where problems can begin.now onto the level of fight in em.well on your tightly game bred dogs it runs pretty high,this line of dogs were bred to be pitdogs and they love to scrap so you have to always have a breaking stick on hand,learn how to seperate dogs quickly if a accident should occur,and be able to control the animal because like Attilla said they are like them hot peppers.all game bred dogs have that desire to fight but these dogs really have it.their fighting abilty and gameness is what made them the second most treasured line in my opinion only next to colby.they are not for the inexperinced owners,i would say they are good for people who have owned the breed for 10+ years 5 years at the very least.i would never recomend a person get a boudreaux dog as their very first APBT because they are just to much to handle for the inexperinced.they are literaly one of the last lines of these dogs to be like they were 30 or 40 years ago.the very reasons why i chose this line to keep is the reasons why for a lot of folks they don't work out.they require extra everything on your part.now i know a lot of folks might say oh they are just like any other line in these dogs but they are not they are very diffrent wich is why i always enjoyed keeping this line.they were winners in the pit for me,they were very smart,easy to handle,easy to condition,i liked the spit fire nature but at the same time they had that easy going people loving nature that made the bulldog world famous.i could have my best pitdog sleep with my child at night and never have a worry.they are rock solid dogs but they take some getting used to because they are very diffrent from other lines of dogs.well hope this helped you out some even though you are not helping her anymore,but any more questions you have i am just a click away.and if you wish to refer her to me i will be glad to help her as well.

[dogged]

I really liked this thread. Lots of good info floating about, and the links were great too :)


i liked the spit fire nature but at the same time they had that easy going people loving nature that made the bulldog world famous.i could have my best pitdog sleep with my child at night and never have a worry.
Sounds like heaven to me, Old Timer. I love a dog like that.

[Brothermarree]

While I do agree socializing can Help the Golden RULE is :
Never Trust a Pit Not to FIGHT. Maybe u can explain that to her. My dogs get along great (most of the time) till another dog outside the yard gets near then my male doesn't care He goes BUT I have been working with him lately cause I'm trying something new with his training and it seems to be working but u can tell if he was off the leash well u know

[Suki]

the girl got him from a breeder in MA.. i am trying to find out the breeders kennel name so i can let you all know, so this way maybe you can help me help her.
i'm curious about the breeder.
Oldtimer, great post as usual.

[maryellen1]

unfortunately the girl on pbf never came back to the thread she made, and has ignored my help and others help:(

[diggit]

i must say her post that you posted was very ignorant.... at first i was thinking if it was the only dog in her house she might do alright.. but then i seen she has more then one :-S

maybe to accually learn somthing, probibly an accident would HAVE to happen for her to open her eyes.

i have heard of people like this and when there dogs DO show DA they put them to sleep for doing what they were bred for!!

socalizing cant take the DA out... but you can have a little bit more control of your dog.

NOW im 21 and just because somone is YOUNG doesnt mean you should judge them...and i hope you dont because people like me who accually read and study dont like to be put it a catigory. but her post was just ignorant she needs to go read lol.

[Old Timer]

I really liked this thread. Lots of good info floating about, and the links were great too :)

Sounds like heaven to me, Old Timer. I love a dog like that.same here thats why i fell in love with the line.they were everything i was looking for in a gamedog.but like i said they are not right for everyone and should not be just jumped into you need to study the line,talk to owners and breeders,get hands on experince with the line see with your own 2 eyes how it acts and then go from there.

[jaystreetsA4]

same here thats why i fell in love with the line.they were everything i was looking for in a gamedog.but like i said they are not right for everyone and should not be just jumped into you need to study the line,talk to owners and breeders,get hands on experince with the line see with your own 2 eyes how it acts and then go from there.you're right bout tht Oldtimer. When i was researching for my next dog, i looked at this line, talked to some owners and breeders and realized it wouldn't fit in with me at this point in life. Its one of my favorite lines but i'm mature enough to admit it seems tht the chance to get a ultra high strung dog tht didn't fit me at this point in life was too high, so i passed on the line. Sucks though, since everyone told me they are one of the most friendliest lines bvut alos one of the more high strung ones. good thread. great info. great dogs.:D

[CHAMP]

Excellent thread folks!

y.i.s,
CHAMP

[Attila]

What ever happened with this, did she ever return to you?