what bloodline would be right for me?

[Sacredangel]

I plan on getting another pit bull in the future, probably a few years from now. I am looking for one that has a good working drive. I plan on starting in weight pull and possibly a little conformation. I have an Australian Shepherd right now that I will be getting into agility. I am looking for a dog with a crazy amount of energy that can work for hours. This will be my first game bred pit bull so I am not too familiar with the bloodlines but I am learning as much as possible. I will settle for a more laid back bulldog if needed seeing as this will be my first experience with a game bred. My previous pit bulls were lazy petbulls who would fall out after an hour or so playing in the yard.

any ideas on what bloodline would be better for me and where I should start looking?

[ABK]

... I am looking for a dog with a crazy amount of energy that can work for hours ... If you are looking for a "crazy" dog, try a Boudreaux dog. They are off the hook & can be very energetic & crazy. BUT ... the "crazy" ones are almost always highly dog aggressive, so be forwarned.

[Lethalpits]

I would recommend finding a good breeder in your area, not just a good bloodline. Find a good person to help you personally pick out a certain dog or prospect that suits you best.

[blackbeard]

from what you are describing a game bred dog is not for you and deep inside you kind of know it.I plan on getting another pit bull in the future, probably a few years from now. I am looking for one that has a good working drive. I plan on starting in weight pull and possibly a little conformation. I have an Australian Shepherd right now that I will be getting into agility. I am looking for a dog with a crazy amount of energy that can work for hours. This will be my first game bred pit bull so I am not too familiar with the bloodlines but I am learning as much as possible. I will settle for a more laid back bulldog if needed seeing as this will be my first experience with a game bred. My previous pit bulls were lazy petbulls who would fall out after an hour or so playing in the yard.

any ideas on what bloodline would be better for me and where I should start looking?

[bahamutt99]

Nobody can tell you what bloodline is best for you. That's something you'll need to work out through association and experience. I'm assuming by your post that you ended up getting rid of your last two dogs. What has changed in the last 3-4 months that you are now ready for a gamebred dog?

[lipshipsattitude]

I agree that a game-bred wouldnt suit your needs at all. I think your best bet would be to look into breeders who currently have weight pull champs and I'm sure if you find some weight pull forums they'll have tons of suggestions. Game bred dogs are best for hunting, bite work and things of that nature.....not for agility and weight pull. Good luck and keep us posted!

[ABK]

Actually, game bred dogs do very well in weight pull. I dunno about agility though! IMO a game bred dog in agility would be an accident waiting to happen!

Maybe I was wrong in my first assessment - perhaps a Lar-San dog would suit you better. They're not truly "game bred" any more, but they're wonderful at show, pulling & agility.

[jaystreetsA4]

Actually, game bred dogs do very well in weight pull. I dunno about agility though! IMO a game bred dog in agility would be an accident waiting to happen!

Maybe I was wrong in my first assessment - perhaps a Lar-San dog would suit you better. They're not truly "game bred" any more, but they're wonderful at show, pulling & agility.i was gonna suggest the same thing. great minds thing alike:D

[Sacredangel]

yes sadly i was forced to give up my two beautiful girls. i have always admired the gamebred pit bulls for their intensity and their looks. if you think a gamebred one wouldnt be right for me then i respect your opinion. i am still going to keep an open mind though and search around different breeders.

Does anyone know of anyone in alabama that could help me out? I know of TONS of BYBs and Puppy millers(I work with a few....ick) but they of course make me bring out my soap box. lol (one actually said Jeep and Redboy lines were crap, Gotti lines are real pit bulls...their recent litter was 80% gotti and the puppies were huge...gross)

I really want a small athletic pit bull. I most likely will not to agility with it. I like it for my aussie but not for a pit bull. I havent been too impressed with the pure weight pull dogs that I have seen. Anyone know of any breeders in specific?

oh also I do not want any AKC UKC dogs! I cant stand those! lol My aussie isnt even a registered one but she does come from mostly working lines(she is insane and has incredible engery!) and I would never own a show aussie! Show dogs are just to made-up for me. I always go with working bred

[lipshipsattitude]

oh also I do not want any AKC UKC dogs! I cant stand those! lol My aussie isnt even a registered one but she does come from mostly working lines(she is insane and has incredible engery!) and I would never own a show aussie!

Well the AKC dosnt have pit bulls and the UKC is the one that has game pit bulls so I'm not sure where your coming from there, wish I could help.
So basically you are looking for a small bred game pit to do weight pull?
That dosnt really make sense when he'll be going up against monster bullies that dominate that sport.......I'd love to help but I guess I dont know what you mean =(

[Lethalpits]

Well the AKC dosnt have pit bulls and the UKC is the one that has game pit bulls so I'm not sure where your coming from there, wish I could help.
So basically you are looking for a small bred game pit to do weight pull?
That dosnt really make sense when he'll be going up against monster bullies that dominate that sport.......I'd love to help but I guess I dont know what you mean =(
UKC doesn't neccessarily have game APBTs. More PR show lines from what I've seen.

[Sacredangel]

Well the AKC dosnt have pit bulls and the UKC is the one that has game pit bulls so I'm not sure where your coming from there, wish I could help.
So basically you are looking for a small bred game pit to do weight pull?
That dosnt really make sense when he'll be going up against monster bullies that dominate that sport.......I'd love to help but I guess I dont know what you mean =(
Sorry I know I am being very confusing here.

I am wanting one just because I love them. I will do whatever I see fit with the dog's personality and work drive. I dont care if he did weight pull or not that is just something I MIGHT try just for the heck of it. I wouldnt care if I ended up never going to a competion with the dog.

[lipshipsattitude]

UKC doesn't neccessarily have game APBTs. More PR show lines from what I've seen.Well yea in this day thats who brings in the money......but the UKC's original intent was to register the game dogs specifically because the AKC wouldnt

[lipshipsattitude]

Sorry I know I am being very confusing here.

I am wanting one just because I love them. I will do whatever I see fit with the dog's personality and work drive. I dont care if he did weight pull or not that is just something I MIGHT try just for the heck of it. I wouldnt care if I ended up never going to a competion with the dog.Oh I see! Ha ha, you just want one because of their drive and your pride for the breed! Alabama huh? I'll see what I can come up with! Good that you want to keep them busy, they really need stimulation or thats when they get into trouble.....I wish more people knew a tired dog is a good dog!

[JoeFeezy]

I can vouch for that one. When i spend all me free time in the yard, I have alot fewer incidents. It doesn't hurt that i give my dogs plenty of running room. They love the creek out back. That thing alone will wear them out. Rory is gonna be good for awhile then, that fatty.

[LegendsMami]

So basically you are looking for a small bred game pit to do weight pull?
That dosnt really make sense when he'll be going up against monster bullies that dominate that sport
In WP they compete against other dogs in their weight class not 100lb'ers.

[Sacredangel]

I wish more people knew a tired dog is a good dog!
me too. Everyone I work with at the vet complain about their dogs pulling and acting up, well maybe if you actually exercised their mind and bodies once in a while they wouldnt!

[lipshipsattitude]

I can vouch for that one. When i spend all me free time in the yard, I have alot fewer incidents. It doesn't hurt that i give my dogs plenty of running room. They love the creek out back. That thing alone will wear them out. Rory is gonna be good for awhile then, that fatty.
Haha, I didnt bring that topic in here because of shame (hangs head) give me two weeks and I'll undo all the threats my evil mother gave her, haha!

[bahamutt99]

But you still haven't answered how your situation has improved that now you're ready for a new dog. Can you understand why people would be concerned? It was in December that you were on here discussing how you thought you were going to be able to keep one of your dogs, and now you have neither. Those are red flags to any breeder who cares.

[sedaliapitbulls]

I just wanted to put a little input on the agility. Russ our secretary of our club Does agaility well his dogs are gamebred. They just need to be trained right. He said alot of obedience training is a must in them first and then you can try agility. just thougt I would give a little insite right from the source of someone that does it. He also said that the calmer the dog the better. He told me that magyar would be a perfect prospect for agility.

[shadyridgekennel]

But you still haven't answered how your situation has improved that now you're ready for a new dog. Can you understand why people would be concerned? It was in December that you were on here discussing how you thought you were going to be able to keep one of your dogs, and now you have neither. Those are red flags to any breeder who cares.

thats what my thoughts are to!!!:rolleyes:

[bahamutt99]

He also said that the calmer the dog the better. He told me that magyar would be a perfect prospect for agility.
Hey. I don't know if you saw in the other thread (with the agility pics) where I mentioned this, but there's going to be a UKC agility trial in your neck of the woods in July, if you wanted to watch or whatever. I'm going to bring Loki out on Sunday (at least, that's the plan) and show those Springfielders what they're missing. (Since its legal to bring a dog in for competition.)

MISSOURI
COMPETITION DOGS OF THE OZARKS
SPRINGFIELD (I) AGIL

PRE-ENTRY ONLY
AGILITY LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF 200 ENTRIES PER DAY
Jul 14; T1 Pat Guticz AGIL Trial 8 am
Jul 14; T2 Pat Guticz AGIL Trial to follow T1
Jul 15; T1 Pat Guticz AGIL Trial 8 am
Jul 15; T2 Pat Guticz AGIL Trial to follow T1
PE ONLY$15, $12 2nd class/same dog received by July 20, 2007 5 pm
Boys & Girls Club of Springfield, 1410 N Fremont Ave (417) 865-6082; From I-44, take the Highway 65 bypass From Highway 65, take the Division Street exit From Division Street, take a left on Fremont The Boys and Girls Club is on Fremont. The trial is in the Boys and Girls Club, Stalnaker Unit. www.smdtc.org (http://www.smdtc.org/)
Chairperson: Pam Tynes (417) 831-3385 gardenar@ix.netcom.com (gardenar@ix.netcom.com)
Event Secretary: Becky Swearinger, 2953 W Cherokee, Springfield MO 65807 (417) 881-2527 thrpk9@mchsi.com (thrpk9@mchsi.com)

[lonesharkpits]

I agree that a game-bred wouldnt suit your needs at all. I think your best bet would be to look into breeders who currently have weight pull champs and I'm sure if you find some weight pull forums they'll have tons of suggestions. Game bred dogs are best for hunting, bite work and things of that nature.....not for agility and weight pull. Good luck and keep us posted!I'll have to disagree on this. My little game dogs seem to be holding ther own on the track......you forget game dogs have the most heart and their not hard to direct where to put that heart, they will do anything you want them to do if you understand them and know how to train them.

[sedaliapitbulls]

well that is the weekend we are hosting the pit bull community picnic that weekend but I would love to go.

Hey. I don't know if you saw in the other thread (with the agility pics) where I mentioned this, but there's going to be a UKC agility trial in your neck of the woods in July, if you wanted to watch or whatever. I'm going to bring Loki out on Sunday (at least, that's the plan) and show those Springfielders what they're missing. (Since its legal to bring a dog in for competition.)

MISSOURI
COMPETITION DOGS OF THE OZARKS
SPRINGFIELD (I) AGIL

PRE-ENTRY ONLY
AGILITY LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF 200 ENTRIES PER DAY
Jul 14; T1 Pat Guticz AGIL Trial 8 am
Jul 14; T2 Pat Guticz AGIL Trial to follow T1
Jul 15; T1 Pat Guticz AGIL Trial 8 am
Jul 15; T2 Pat Guticz AGIL Trial to follow T1
PE ONLY$15, $12 2nd class/same dog received by July 20, 2007 5 pm
Boys & Girls Club of Springfield, 1410 N Fremont Ave (417) 865-6082; From I-44, take the Highway 65 bypass From Highway 65, take the Division Street exit From Division Street, take a left on Fremont The Boys and Girls Club is on Fremont. The trial is in the Boys and Girls Club, Stalnaker Unit. www.smdtc.org (http://www.smdtc.org/)
Chairperson: Pam Tynes (417) 831-3385 gardenar@ix.netcom.com (gardenar@ix.netcom.com)
Event Secretary: Becky Swearinger, 2953 W Cherokee, Springfield MO 65807 (417) 881-2527 thrpk9@mchsi.com (thrpk9@mchsi.com)

[lonesharkpits]

lipshipsattitude][/b]
So basically you are looking for a small bred game pit to do weight pull?
That dosnt really make sense when he'll be going up against monster bullies that dominate that sport.......I don't know when the last time was that you attended a weight pull or if you ever have, but game-dogs are where its at. I'll pull my 40# ers against any big bullies. And don't think i'm hating on bigger dogs, I have a 72 pounder thats as gamey as they come. Anything a bully can do, a game dog can do it better!!!

[bahamutt99]

well that is the weekend we are hosting the pit bull community picnic that weekend but I would love to go.
Okay, duh. I forgot about that. :o

[Sacredangel]

Its confusing as to why I couldnt keep them and just know one thing, it wasnt my choice. My mother forced me to rehome them. I had no say in it. If I could I would go and snatch them back from the people my mother gave them to.

I dont know when I will get another dog. I do know that it will be after we move most likely unless I find a dog that I really like but it would still be close to when we move(hopefully we are moving out into the country in a year or so) the next dog that I get will be completely mine so my mother will not have say over what happens with him. That is the only reason I was able to keep my aussie, she has always been mine and I have payed for all of her things so my mom didnt have say over her.

I really do miss my girls, horribly. I want them back like crazy and I would do or give anything to have them back but it isnt happening so I am planning for the future and this time I am going to do it right.

hope that helps yall understand

[Chef-Kergin]

Its confusing as to why I couldnt keep them and just know one thing, it wasnt my choice. My mother forced me to rehome them. I had no say in it. If I could I would go and snatch them back from the people my mother gave them to.

I dont know when I will get another dog. I do know that it will be after we move most likely unless I find a dog that I really like but it would still be close to when we move(hopefully we are moving out into the country in a year or so) the next dog that I get will be completely mine so my mother will not have say over what happens with him. That is the only reason I was able to keep my aussie, she has always been mine and I have payed for all of her things so my mom didnt have say over her.

I really do miss my girls, horribly. I want them back like crazy and I would do or give anything to have them back but it isnt happening so I am planning for the future and this time I am going to do it right.

hope that helps yall understand
look at it from your mother's pespective. usually they tend have good judgement.

why did she force you to rehome the dogs? do you agree with her, and if not, why?

what will have changed from now until the time you plan on getting another dog that enables you to be a batter ad more responsible owner?

[Pitbull219]

The only thing I can say is learn, learn, learn, and learn some more. Then when you think you have enough knowledge to own a game-bred APBT, wait a while and learn some more. Find a good mentor if possible. And please, for the love of God, don't get another dog until your situation improves and there is absolutely zero chance of you having to get rid of another dog. Best of luck to you.....

[BoiBoi]

wtf...dude how old are u, maybe u should think about getting ur own dog when u have ur own house and don't have momma around making decisions for u. First off this question should never have even been asked, there is so much information about every bloodline out there just look for it, don't take the easy way out and try to let someone else tell u what blood is good for u. Do ur research and think long and hard if u can really handle a dog that has the potential to attack every living animal it see's at any given time. U say all u've had was lazy pet bulls, well maybe u should consider a different breed cause i don't think u have a clue what kind of drastic change it will be when u get a gamebred apbt, sorry to be blunt about it but it has been said many times and ill say it again, a true apbt is not for everyone, hell its not for anyone except those with proper experience handling a dog of that caliber. Good luck with whatever u choose to do, but choose wisely

[Sacredangel]

I dont know why she rehomed them. No I didnt aggree with her because you should NEVER rehome a dog that you chose to adopt. It is a lifetime commitment.

Things have not changed so far but like I said it could be years before I actually get one. I am starting now so that I can learn enough by the time I am ready. I might wait until I am older and have more experience to get one and in between now and then get a more active pit bull to do Shutzhund with. As I said I am keeping an open mind at this point and exploring all options. I refuse to get into something that I cannot handle. I do have alot of dog training experience and have done well with training all my dogs and taking control over all their dog aggression(including my previous pit bulls) I know all the risks of owning a pit bull and having other animals around. I have done alot of previous research about the breed but now I am ready to learn about the bloodlines. I only asked so I could learn more. There is no way I am going to go jump the gun and get a dog from the bloodline that someone suggests.