View Full Version : how many cups do you feed your 50ish pounders?
MoEttaWinnyMOM
04-08-2007, 06:16 PM
i am trying to get my 50 lb winston down a few pounds. he is looking good at one and a half but could stand to loose his baby belly. i feed 1 and 3/4 cups of california natural herring and sweet potato but feel like that may be too much.
i also do a lot of training with him so that really ups his food intake too. usually for training i use the dick van patten natural balance rolls. anything you all use that is lighter? and how many cups do you feed and what type of food.
winston:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c364/semantyks/wincollarmania2.jpg
BoogiemanBlood
04-08-2007, 06:49 PM
i feed nick natures variety. the venison or salmon and he gets 2 cups. he is 52 lbs, and pretty lean there. he pretty much stays that shape. i would keep the feed the same and up his exercise routine more. underfeeding a dog is no way to get one in shape IMO. not implying that you were trying to do that but 1 3/4 cup is pretty much the cutoff for a 50 lb dog i would think. what does the chart say on the back? not that it means much but can be a guide to start with.
p.s. i highly reccomend the natures variety food. some people knock it cuz they say it don't have enough protien sources, but it has about 4 different eggs in it also, which i consider protien sources myself.
here is nick just a couple days ago.
http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/5/9/6/2/DSC02134.JPG
MoEttaWinnyMOM
04-08-2007, 06:56 PM
i feed nick natures variety. the venison or salmon and he gets 2 cups. he is 52 lbs, and pretty lean there. he pretty much stays that shape. i would keep the feed the same and up his exercise routine more. underfeeding a dog is no way to get one in shape IMO. not implying that you were trying to do that but 1 3/4 cup is pretty much the cutoff for a 50 lb dog i would think. what does the chart say on the back? not that it means much but can be a guide to start with.
well i know that charts can be overdone. i really need to get his training food in control sometimes that doubles his food intake but i feel bad not feeding him later with my other dogs. i am always surprised though when others show what they feed. i do need to get him doing more cardio exercise though. he gets long walks and obedience but nothing very high impact except playing with my other dogs
MoEttaWinnyMOM
04-08-2007, 06:57 PM
i feed nick natures variety. the venison or salmon and he gets 2 cups. he is 52 lbs, and pretty lean there. he pretty much stays that shape. i would keep the feed the same and up his exercise routine more. underfeeding a dog is no way to get one in shape IMO. not implying that you were trying to do that but 1 3/4 cup is pretty much the cutoff for a 50 lb dog i would think. what does the chart say on the back? not that it means much but can be a guide to start with.
p.s. i highly reccomend the natures variety food. some people knock it cuz they say it don't have enough protien sources, but it has about 4 different eggs in it also, which i consider protien sources myself.
here is nick just a couple days ago.
http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/5/9/6/2/DSC02134.JPG
oh BTW he looks great!
LegendsMami
04-08-2007, 07:24 PM
i am trying to get my 50 lb winston down a few pounds. he is looking good at one and a half but could stand to loose his baby belly. i feed 1 and 3/4 cups of california natural herring and sweet potato but feel like that may be too much.
i also do a lot of training with him so that really ups his food intake too. usually for training i use the dick van patten natural balance rolls. anything you all use that is lighter? and how many cups do you feed and what type of food.
winston:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c364/semantyks/wincollarmania2.jpg
Oh I LOVE Winston!!!!:D
MoEttaWinnyMOM
04-08-2007, 07:29 PM
Oh I LOVE Winston!!!!:Dthanks! i take it as a real compliment since you are so unbiased about the red dogs. hehe. he loves you too.http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c364/semantyks/winstpats2.jpg
NcPrisonGuard
04-08-2007, 08:08 PM
I feed 3 cups a day.. according to the feed chart on the back of the food bag. They (especially Folsom) act like they are starvin when I come out there but you can look at them and tell they are far from missing a meal.
MoEttaWinnyMOM
04-08-2007, 08:46 PM
I feed 3 cups a day.. according to the feed chart on the back of the food bag. They (especially Folsom) act like they are starvin when I come out there but you can look at them and tell they are far from missing a meal.i know. we are trying to get our girl down in weight. she cant do much exercise until the pool comes that i ordered for her since she has bad arthiritis in one leg from an old fracture that was never detected. so we have cut her food back and you would think she was dying of starvation. of course we could feed her 2 cups or ten cups and she would act this way.
NcPrisonGuard
04-08-2007, 08:55 PM
i know. we are trying to get our girl down in weight. she cant do much exercise until the pool comes that i ordered for her since she has bad arthiritis in one leg from an old fracture that was never detected. so we have cut her food back and you would think she was dying of starvation. of course we could feed her 2 cups or ten cups and she would act this way.
Folsom is the same way.. he literally will work himself up to the point of foaming at the mouth when I come out with the food. I've never seen anything like it.
CynthiaATL
04-08-2007, 09:06 PM
The Vet I work for now tells people if they have an overweight dog feed what they should weigh not what they currently weigh. So if your dog should weigh 45pds and weighs 60 and you are feeding her at 60pd then you are giving her to many calories.
I also worked for another vet she recommended that if you should feed your dog 2 cups twice a day mix in green beans. Feed 1 cup kibble and 1 cup green beans. I know it worked on a few dogs. The thing is when losing weight you want it to be a gradual process.
IMO I tend to lean towards what they Vet I work for now says.
jaystreetsA4
04-08-2007, 11:32 PM
thanks! i take it as a real compliment since you are so unbiased about the red dogs. hehe. he loves you too.http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c364/semantyks/winstpats2.jpgI love this pic winston is a good looking one:D
Attila
04-09-2007, 12:37 AM
depends on the brand
bahamutt99
04-09-2007, 01:12 AM
I use the DVP stuff for training treats as well. I haven't met a dog that doesn't go apesh*t for them. I feel like during training you're burning calories as you go, unless your training is a lot different than mine. Oh yeah, and I feed my 45-er 2 cups per day, or less depending on her level of activity.
Patch O' Pits
04-09-2007, 06:01 AM
Mine eat 2 cups a day depending on how hard they are playing or training they may have a bit more or less
it also depends on the type of food you feed . Some are more nutrient dense than others
Dogs are RAW tend to cut weight faster IMO also than dogs on kibble.
mikelia
04-09-2007, 12:54 PM
My dog weighs between 47 and 51lbs depending on her conditioning level and I never feed her more than 1.5 cups a day. She eats 1 cup I'd say 80% of the time but if I work her really hard one day, I will give her an extra half a cup. This is of Innova Evo. She also gets raw a lot too. She doesn't gain weight if I feed her more, she's too much of a crazy dog to let calories sit, but I don't feel that she needs more than 1.5 cups a day. Heres a pic of her last summer, she is not underweight. http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/4/2/9/6/Poct20066.JPG
Lethalpits
04-09-2007, 01:03 PM
My dog's down to 52 lbs. at the moment. He gets 2 cups a day, mostly because I exercise him alot, not to mention he is only 9 months and still needs nutrients to grow. I'm trying to keep him in the low 50s, but I'm sure by the time he fully matures he will be right around 60 lbs. chain weight, but there's no doubt I can keep him conditioned around low 50's. BTW he's eating Diamond Lamb and Rice Natural.
http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/6/9/4/2/Maxoffthetree2.jpg
blackbeard
04-09-2007, 01:33 PM
First off how old is he? you're talking about a baby belly. If he is under 1 year my suggestion is to let him be. 1 3/4 cups for a 50 lb dog who is under 1 is not enough, especially on a young dog. may i ask the reason why you are lowering his weight. the only response i can think of is that you might be into conformation shows. If not you're just wasting your time unless you wanna experiment with different foods and seeing how your dog assimilates them. I did this too and I found out the simpler the better. Many of these knew foods that are coming out are really designed to catch the owners attention not necessarily what's in the dogs best interest. i've found that NO dog food is complete on it's own. i've always found the need to supplement unless their on a maintenance diet only. now after reading this I know that many here will state otherwise, but after 17 years of fucking around with these dogs I have a pretty good idea of what i;m telling you. Feed the maximum amount of food at which he retains his best weight. And like you said yourself if you are REALLY working you know their nutritional demands will increase. For those out there who still abide by the feeding charts you are in the stone age. Avoid starches. That's all for now. Good luck and use your common sense.i am trying to get my 50 lb winston down a few pounds. he is looking good at one and a half but could stand to loose his baby belly. i feed 1 and 3/4 cups of california natural herring and sweet potato but feel like that may be too much.
i also do a lot of training with him so that really ups his food intake too. usually for training i use the dick van patten natural balance rolls. anything you all use that is lighter? and how many cups do you feed and what type of food.
winston:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c364/semantyks/wincollarmania2.jpg
MoEttaWinnyMOM
04-09-2007, 02:27 PM
First off how old is he? you're talking about a baby belly. If he is under 1 year my suggestion is to let him be. 1 3/4 cups for a 50 lb dog who is under 1 is not enough, especially on a young dog. may i ask the reason why you are lowering his weight. the only response i can think of is that you might be into conformation shows. If not you're just wasting your time unless you wanna experiment with different foods and seeing how your dog assimilates them. I did this too and I found out the simpler the better. Many of these knew foods that are coming out are really designed to catch the owners attention not necessarily what's in the dogs best interest. i've found that NO dog food is complete on it's own. i've always found the need to supplement unless their on a maintenance diet only. now after reading this I know that many here will state otherwise, but after 17 years of fucking around with these dogs I have a pretty good idea of what i;m telling you. Feed the maximum amount of food at which he retains his best weight. And like you said yourself if you are REALLY working you know their nutritional demands will increase. For those out there who still abide by the feeding charts you are in the stone age. Avoid starches. That's all for now. Good luck and use your common sense.thanks he will be going on two in august.
MoEttaWinnyMOM
04-09-2007, 02:30 PM
thanks he will be going on two in august.OH and like i said he gets a lot of other stuff in his f=diet--peanut butter, banana stuffed kongs, DVP treats, etc.
Danno
04-09-2007, 02:37 PM
I feed 2 cups of Nature's Variety, 1 in the morning and another in the evening.
Kadin stays between 48-52lbs.
http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/6/8/7/4/12---18--2006-026.jpg
Rockstar
04-09-2007, 02:41 PM
At first glance, I thought the title of this topic read, "how many CURS do you feed your 50ish pounders?" Lol
Verderben
04-09-2007, 03:45 PM
i feed nick natures variety. the venison or salmon and he gets 2 cups. he is 52 lbs, and pretty lean there. he pretty much stays that shape. i would keep the feed the same and up his exercise routine more. underfeeding a dog is no way to get one in shape IMO. not implying that you were trying to do that but 1 3/4 cup is pretty much the cutoff for a 50 lb dog i would think. what does the chart say on the back? not that it means much but can be a guide to start with.
p.s. i highly reccomend the natures variety food. some people knock it cuz they say it don't have enough protien sources, but it has about 4 different eggs in it also, which i consider protien sources myself.
here is nick just a couple days ago.
http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/5/9/6/2/DSC02134.JPGWe just started on Natures Variety a week ago, so far the dogs love it. I have been told good things about the food from people who use it.
luvnstuff
04-13-2007, 04:46 PM
Wow.. I am over feeding.. L O L .
But all depends on the dog and the activity I think.
A young dog is still growing bone mass. so I would be very (!) leary of cutting a dog who is under two ? Escpecially if working out hard???
Muscles need FOOD .
Scotoer is a 70 pound pitty who is hard to put weight ON her, in her conditioned think state we feed her about 4-6 cups a day , depending on activity.. for a while it was 6 cups, (two 3 x daily) and she was VERY lean and active. This winter we switched over to Science Diet (donated food to the dogs) and she has PUT ON WEIGHT (This food looking at the ingredients is CRAP) .. so she is down to 4 cups a day (2C-2 X a day)
We are soon to start weight pulling and I again will be adjusting her foods as I want her lean but want the muscle mass.
Maybe I am way to old school or new school. I want to see at LEAST 2- 3 ribs and muscles. No chub.
Acutally just took her out for a walk and one of my neighbors didnt even recongnize her, they asked what happened to that anorexic dog from Stockholm.. *sigh* here she is.. chubba bubba..we have our work cut out for us both.. winter sucks.
Of course she is about 3 years old now too.
Wow.. I am over feeding.. L O L .
But all depends on the dog and the activity I think.
A young dog is still growing bone mass. so I would be very (!) leary of cutting a dog who is under two ? Escpecially if working out hard???
Muscles need FOOD .
Scotoer is a 70 pound pitty who is hard to put weight ON her, in her conditioned think state we feed her about 4-6 cups a day , depending on activity.. for a while it was 6 cups, (two 3 x daily) and she was VERY lean and active. This winter we switched over to Science Diet (donated food to the dogs) and she has PUT ON WEIGHT (This food looking at the ingredients is CRAP) .. so she is down to 4 cups a day (2C-2 X a day)
We are soon to start weight pulling and I again will be adjusting her foods as I want her lean but want the muscle mass.
Maybe I am way to old school or new school. I want to see at LEAST 2- 3 ribs and muscles. No chub.
Acutally just took her out for a walk and one of my neighbors didnt even recongnize her, they asked what happened to that anorexic dog from Stockholm.. *sigh* here she is.. chubba bubba..we have our work cut out for us both.. winter sucks.
Of course she is about 3 years old now too.
My boy is 62 lbs. and is 8 1/2 months old. We feed him 2 cups mixed with half a can of wet in the day and the same amount in the night. But yeah your right about the muscle mass growth when they are still a pup. He is pretty lean since he was younger. That's his picture on my signature. The last time I brought him to the vet, the vet was saying that he's overweight but I like him looking like that rather than his ribs showing.
BoogiemanBlood
04-14-2007, 08:42 PM
Wow.. I am over feeding.. L O L .
But all depends on the dog and the activity I think.
A young dog is still growing bone mass. so I would be very (!) leary of cutting a dog who is under two ? Escpecially if working out hard???
Muscles need FOOD .
Scotoer is a 70 pound pitty who is hard to put weight ON her, in her conditioned think state we feed her about 4-6 cups a day , depending on activity.. for a while it was 6 cups, (two 3 x daily) and she was VERY lean and active. This winter we switched over to Science Diet (donated food to the dogs) and she has PUT ON WEIGHT (This food looking at the ingredients is CRAP) .. so she is down to 4 cups a day (2C-2 X a day)
We are soon to start weight pulling and I again will be adjusting her foods as I want her lean but want the muscle mass.
Maybe I am way to old school or new school. I want to see at LEAST 2- 3 ribs and muscles. No chub.
Acutally just took her out for a walk and one of my neighbors didnt even recongnize her, they asked what happened to that anorexic dog from Stockholm.. *sigh* here she is.. chubba bubba..we have our work cut out for us both.. winter sucks.
Of course she is about 3 years old now too.out of that 4 cups of science diet you're feeding 3 cups of it is pooped out in your yard. that stuff is garbage.
luvnstuff
04-15-2007, 01:19 PM
omg boogie man you are 100 % right.
Actually I switched foods on Scooter. Since she is still sponsored as all the dogs here are under a rescue group and Science Diet funds our food.....I dont have much a choice on the others as I cannot afford to feed all these guys out of my pocket. But Scoot is switching.
I can actually say, Science Diet is ABSOLUTE CRAP.. ever look at the ingredients..egads.. talk about sucking.
She did put on weight, probably all the filler, but I am not feeding her that crap anymore, as spring has sprung and its time to work more. I think her stamina is in jepordy on that crappy food.
I cant believe they sell that CRAP as a top name food,its really sad and a rape on the consumers who think because of "brand name" they are buying something GOOD.
puke.. awful food. I feel SORRY feeding it to my fosters..and would never recommend this food to a freakin poodle owner.
Meatball is one big dandruff dog, Diesel is doing ok on it. Scooter actually put on weight...but not good weight.
crap crap crap and yup it all outside in HUGE piles in the yard..
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