Conditioned shelter dogs putting my soft dogs

[MoEttaWinnyMOM]

(former shelter dogs themselves) to shame! These guys come our ripped from the shelter. If only their skin and coat weren't in horrible shape. Check out some of our fosters bods:

BORIS
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c364/semantyks/prettybob.jpg

ROCK
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MACK DOG
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c364/semantyks/prettymackie.jpg

BUSTER
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c364/semantyks/DSCF4949.jpg

WINSTON @ 9 months(my dog now, here he is when we first got him)
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[simms]

Good for you an they look nice.....but that last pic makes my head twitch.

[JAGER]

Im Not Trying To Talk Smack But Winston Looks Tiny Or Is It The Way The Pic Was Taken ? The Dogs Look Very Nice .

[MoEttaWinnyMOM]

why does he make your head twitch? (if you are talking about the last/last pics they are playing in that one.)

winston isn't really small by standard. he is 50 lbs. he was terrified and scrawny there just out of the shelter at 9ish months. he is 1yr & nine months now and looking great but could use some more conditioning. he starts rally-o and agility in a month--i am very excited! he does have one of those eternal pup faces though so he always looks younger.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c364/semantyks/winstandfinal.jpg
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[chinasmom]

Whats wrong with their skin and coat. It looks good on the pics, all shiny and slick.

[MoEttaWinnyMOM]

Whats wrong with their skin and coat. It looks good on the pics, all shiny and slick.
i know it looks good in pics but in person when they first get out of the shelter their coats are very dull and their skin is terrible. although it is hard to tell form the pics! a few weeks of good food and destressing fixes that though.

[pennsooner]

why does he make your head twitch? (if you are talking about the last/last pics they are playing in that one.)

winston isn't really small by standard. he is 50 lbs. he was terrified and scrawny there just out of the shelter at 9ish months. he is 1yr & nine months now and looking great but could use some more conditioning. he starts rally-o and agility in a month--i am very excited! he does have one of those eternal pup faces though so he always looks younger.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c364/semantyks/winstandfinal.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c364/semantyks/sidestandblocky.jpg



http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c364/semantyks/frontblocky.jpg

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Pitbulls have hundreds of years of bred fighting dogs behind them. Its considered basic Pitbull managment to keep these sorts of dogs out of situations where they can get in trouble. Keep this in mind. To a real deal Pitdog, fighting IS playing. And the same attitude is lurking in the genes of all the breed. Letting a group of Pitbulls engage in play sessions is a good way to end up with a awful, bloody mess. These dogs "disagreements" over toys and the like tend to turn much more serious, much more quickly than with other dogs. And nearly all dogs allowed to interact freely will get in scraps. With Pitbulls those "scraps" can turn very nasty in the bat of an eye. Thats the reason for the head shaking.

[LegendsMami]

They are so cute! I really like Boris and Winston!!!

[MoEttaWinnyMOM]

Pitbulls have hundreds of years of bred fighting dogs behind them. Its considered basic Pitbull managment to keep these sorts of dogs out of situations where they can get in trouble. Keep this in mind. To a real deal Pitdog, fighting IS playing. And the same attitude is lurking in the genes of all the breed. Letting a group of Pitbulls engage in play sessions is a good way to end up with a awful, bloody mess. These dogs "disagreements" over toys and the like tend to turn much more serious, much more quickly than with other dogs. And nearly all dogs allowed to interact freely will get in scraps. With Pitbulls those "scraps" can turn very nasty in the bat of an eye. Thats the reason for the head shaking.
Umm. thanks for the info but I dont just willly nilly throw random pit bulls together to play. our female is aggressive to other females so she doesnt play or get exposed to them. Our males were pre-selected because of their tolerance and submissive tendencies with other dogs. Our foster dogs are carefully pre-screened for male and submissive dogs. they are often juveniles to which helps to minimize risk.

I have had this breed for years and have had numerous fosters come and go and have never had so much as a minor spat happen. The dogs are ALWAYS supervised when playing and they are trained to go "easy" which means lower your arousal level, and "break" which means stop now.

When they play I constantly insert controls and ask them to break if they get too crazy or for no good reason. They are also obedience trained.

There is always the risk of fights happening but with inteligent management you can greatly reduce those risks.

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[MoEttaWinnyMOM]

They are so cute! I really like Boris and Winston!!!you wouldn't be biased towards the red dogs would you?
hahahaha.

[simms]

why does he make your head twitch? (if you are talking about the last/last pics they are playing in that one.)

winston isn't really small by standard. he is 50 lbs. he was terrified and scrawny there just out of the shelter at 9ish months. he is 1yr & nine months now and looking great but could use some more conditioning. he starts rally-o and agility in a month--i am very excited! he does have one of those eternal pup faces though so he always looks younger.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c364/semantyks/winstandfinal.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c364/semantyks/sidestandblocky.jpg



http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c364/semantyks/frontblocky.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c364/semantyks/winnysidestandCOMP.jpg

I dont create situations like that past a certain age. I know that they are playing ....however I am invisioning that adult dog throtling one of the others at any moment...LOL.

but hey whatever works for you!

[MoEttaWinnyMOM]

I dont create situations like that past a certain age. I know that they are playing ....however I am invisioning that adult dog throtling one of the others at any moment...LOL.

but hey whatever works for you!
this one?
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c364/semantyks/ShowLetter.jpg
or this one?
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c364/semantyks/molovepups-1.jpg
lol. dont worry- i micro manage the crap out of them. and morris the black dog is about as submissive as they come. my trainers use him to help rehab aggressive dogs and to be the adult dog in their puppy classes to be the "cop" dog.

[ChiaPit]

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LOVE THIS ONE!!!!!!!! They all look great to me, and I know many good dogs end up in shelters.

[LegendsMami]

you wouldn't be biased towards the red dogs would you?
hahahaha.
LOL!:p Something about those red & chocolates that makes my brain go crazy!

[pennsooner]

Glad your on top of it! They are a cute bunch for sure. By the way, I have a fondness for pugs. My favorite "toy" dog.

[badboy_caesar]

Beautiful dogs, Sam!

I loved getting to meet Morris and Etta, along with your then foster dog Piper. Winston is my new favorite. He is a cutie.

[MoEttaWinnyMOM]

thank you! winston is so dag gone cute. hope all is well with you! dont you have a new one?

[badboy_caesar]

My newest one is Ollie, a year and a half old Boxer/Pit bull mix. I got her at the tail end of December 2006. So it's been almost four months. Rachel just got a little Chihuahua puppy too, in January.

[MIKA]

Keep up the GREAT work. Your dogs are BEAUTIFUL.

[JAGER]

i love your dogs thier beautiful. im hopeing to add to my family another pit bull this month. the funny thing is im might be getting a red one so we'll have the same color pits. here is CHLOE (my brindle ) http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o24/southside_local/CLOIE.jpg and here is JAGER (my solid black ) http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o24/southside_local/PICT0147-1.jpg

[MoEttaWinnyMOM]

i love your dogs thier beautiful. im hopeing to add to my family another pit bull this month. the funny thing is im might be getting a red one so we'll have the same color pits. here is CHLOE (my brindle ) http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o24/southside_local/CLOIE.jpg and here is JAGER (my solid black ) http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o24/southside_local/PICT0147-1.jpg
haha, well the brindle was a foster that got a great home. but he gave me the brindle itch! we have a red, seal and black w/ brown higlights pittie that are ours. your dogs are gorgeous. good luck with the new addition.

these three are mine and any others in pics are our beloved fosters
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[Phebes]

My newest one is Ollie, a year and a half old Boxer/Pit bull mix. I got her at the tail end of December 2006. So it's been almost four months. Rachel just got a little Chihuahua puppy too, in January.
My foster pup Joey is a boxer/pit bull mix. She is about 12 weeks old. She was found starving on a backroad in a ditch. Joey is a really intelligent pup and is learning very fast.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i56/phebes_2006/Joey1.jpg

[dog-man]

Damm, your right, those dogs are in good shape for comming from a shelter, i would evern go as far to say, that from the pics , most of them could pass off as game bred , hope they go to good homes.

[NcPrisonGuard]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c364/semantyks/threeay.jpg
Now I' m not one to dig on the way anyone keeps their dogs or the way they let their dogs play in a supervised fashion. But I've seen pics posted on here that were way less "aggressive looking" than this one and the people all got dragged over the coals about their pictures. I had one of Boomer and Cheyenne playing in the house and I got a boat load of PMs saying its time to seperate, don't let your dogs play like that.. etc etc.... But after being here a while I can see why they said that now. You know how easy it would be for some animal rights nut job to get ahold of the pics of your dogs playing and post it up elsewhere showing these "aggressive man eating horrible dogs?" I just wouldn't do it anymore but thats just my experience and .2 cents..

[JAGER]

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You know how easy it would be for some animal rights nut job to get ahold of the pics of your dogs playing and post it up elsewhere showing these "aggressive man eating horrible dogs?" I just wouldn't do it anymore but thats just my experience and .2 cents.. WOW I DIDNT THINK OF IT THAT WAY. GOOD LOOKING OUT . I WILL REMEMBER THAT . AND THOSE .2 CENTS WERE VALUABLE TO ME THANKS

[MoEttaWinnyMOM]

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Now I' m not one to dig on the way anyone keeps their dogs or the way they let their dogs play in a supervised fashion. But I've seen pics posted on here that were way less "aggressive looking" than this one and the people all got dragged over the coals about their pictures. I had one of Boomer and Cheyenne playing in the house and I got a boat load of PMs saying its time to seperate, don't let your dogs play like that.. etc etc.... But after being here a while I can see why they said that now. You know how easy it would be for some animal rights nut job to get ahold of the pics of your dogs playing and post it up elsewhere showing these "aggressive man eating horrible dogs?" I just wouldn't do it anymore but thats just my experience and .2 cents..well everything with dogs is in context with pictures so it is silly to say whether a dog is aggressive or not from pics. play mimics real posturing. also supervised play is a great way to relieve tension between the dogs. i can see what you mean about people using it against them though. i guess on the other forums i post on everyone knows my dogs and my background so i dont worry about people getting worried about it. but then again, the only pics i have ever seen someone use against my dogs was the one below which is totally innocuous. they put by etta's photo, "you can dress them up but they still look dangerous" or something to that effect.

plus those same people would use a dog on a springpole saying it was vicious, or a conditioned dog and say it was starving and abused so to a certain point you cant please everyone.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c364/semantyks/ettatiara1.jpg

[MoEttaWinnyMOM]

Damm, your right, those dogs are in good shape for comming from a shelter, i would evern go as far to say, that from the pics , most of them could pass off as game bred , hope they go to good homes.
they all went to exceptional homes! i have been blessed with finding wonderful adopters. rock just got placed today and i am fosterless again.