Pup Seems to Be not growing so much

[c10d]

My pup Mia now is 10mos and it seems (though she definitly has grown since we've had her) has not really grown much. I've had her since she was about 3 months.

From her pedigree, I posted it up and it was something I didn't really know much about (yeah I know, I didn't do my homework on bloodlines before getting her, but did read a ton about the breed as a whole), members said they saw watchdog, Raging Bull, (uh ohh here's the big disappointment...) Gotty, and someone said rowdytown.

Anyways, no shes not blue first off, shes solid chocolate. And she's not fat, but she just seems short to me for her age, her head seems small, and she just looks like a little puppy lol.

I'll post some pics of her and post pics of her pedigree. I saw the mother and father of her, which were nice athletic-looking dogs actually. And I also found one of the brothers of my pups mom, which looks like a pit on the larger side.

It just seems weird how small Mia is.

Here is the link with my pups mom's brother lol so her Uncle(?) http://topqualitypa.tripod.com/id1.html


Here is her pedigree... C:\Documents and Settings\Daniel\My Documents\Aquilino_s_Camia_.htm

And some pics... BTW she is about 42lbs
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/1213/img0402vc8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/255/img0393yz6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2212/img0396tg8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And this is her the night I got her at 3mos...
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1539/20070905image0001se8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) lol I havnt seen that pic in a while, shes a cutie


She definitly has grown, it just seems she's growing very slowly or something I dno if that's normal

[c10d]

Let me see if this will let me post the ped...

<!-- This document was automatically generated at www.sitstay.com/pedi/ --><!-- Created with Pedigree Generator 2.2 -->Pedigree for Aquilino's "Camia"
American Pit Bull Terrier/Chocolate/Red Nose




<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 border=1><TBODY><TR><TD width="25%" rowSpan=8>Sire
OXFORD'S "RAGING CHANCE"</TD><TD width="25%" rowSpan=4>Sire
SUGIURA'S "PEPE LEPEW"</TD><TD width="25%" rowSpan=2>Sire
HUGHZEE'S "PRETTY BOY BLUE"</TD><TD width="25%">Sire
WATCHDOG'S "BEELZEBUB</TD></TR><TR><TD width="25%">Dam
HUGHZEE'S "BOSSY BOO"</TD></TR><TR><TD width="25%" rowSpan=2>Dam
JOE'S "RAGING BLUE SABLE"</TD><TD width="25%">Sire
MARRALES' "RAGING RED BULL"</TD></TR><TR><TD width="25%">Dam
BOBBIE'S "RAGING LADY MIAH"</TD></TR><TR><TD width="25%" rowSpan=4>Dam
SUGIURA'S "SPY LADY"</TD><TD width="25%" rowSpan=2>Sire
SUGIURA'S "MEAN SPIDER"</TD><TD width="25%">Sire
BARAJAS' "NOTORIOUS JUAN GOTTY"</TD></TR><TR><TD width="25%">Dam
"WHITE DIAMONDS DUSTY ROSE"</TD></TR><TR><TD width="25%" rowSpan=2>Dam
JOE'S "RAGING BLUE SABLE"</TD><TD width="25%">Sire
MARRALES' "RAGING RED BULL"</TD></TR><TR><TD width="25%">Dam
BOBBIE'S "RAGING LADY MIAH"</TD></TR><TR><TD width="25%" rowSpan=8>Dam
MARCOCCI'S "CAMI"</TD><TD width="25%" rowSpan=4>Sire
OXFORD'S "RAGING CHANCE"</TD><TD width="25%" rowSpan=2>Sire
SUGIURA'S "PEPE LEPEW"</TD><TD width="25%">Sire
HUGHZEE'S "PRETTY BOY BLUE"</TD></TR><TR><TD width="25%">Dam
JOE'S "RAGING BLUE SABLE"</TD></TR><TR><TD width="25%" rowSpan=2>Dam
SUGIURA'S "SPY LADY"</TD><TD width="25%">Sire
SUGIURA'S "MEAN SPIDER"</TD></TR><TR><TD width="25%">Dam
JOE'S "RAGING BLUE SABLE"</TD></TR><TR><TD width="25%" rowSpan=4>Dam
HEATHER'S "ELLEY"</TD><TD width="25%" rowSpan=2>Sire
DE GOLIER'S "BULLDOZER"</TD><TD width="25%">Sire
VALLONE'S "MACHO PIT"</TD></TR><TR><TD width="25%">Dam
VALLONE'S "SASHA"</TD></TR><TR><TD width="25%" rowSpan=2>Dam
HEATHER'S "RAGING ABBY LANE"</TD><TD width="25%">Sire
MARRALES' "RAGING RED BULL"</TD></TR><TR><TD width="25%">Dam
SHEBA'S "BLACK SPITFIRE BULL"</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- Please leave this reference line here so others can benefit -->This pedigree page was built for free at SitStay.com (http://www.sitstay.com/pedi/)

[Patch O' Pits]

42 lbs is normal size

[lipshipsattitude]

Oh she's a beauty. A general rule is that they get taller in the first year and thicken out in the 2nd BUT why do you want her big? Just asking cause small pitties are a wonderful rarity these days and are heavily envied by people who know pit bulls. Plus I noticed my girl went through spurts. She's a beauty anyways

[lipshipsattitude]

Oh I just saw her pics....AAHH she's perfect. Why would you want her any bigger? The bigger they get the less agile they get, maybe focus on muscle and strengthening because thats how her structure looks already. A nice lean muscly bitch instead a fat house dog hippo, ha ha!

I wanan kiss her face. I love the pic with her ears back...I know that face all too well "get that camera outta ma face"!!!

[JAGER]

she looks good to me . jager isnt that much bigger hes 9 1/2 months 48 pounds.
mia still has alot more growing to do. maybe not in hieght but she will fill out alot more.

[c10d]

42 lbs is normal size
Yeah she just seems like, so small though lol, height-wise and just her structure. She's like a little puppy still. I mean I know 10mos is still a puppy, but she just seems extra small. From those pics she probably looks bigger than she really is too


Oh she's a beauty. A general rule is that they get taller in the first year and thicken out in the 2nd BUT why do you want her big? Just asking cause small pitties are a wonderful rarity these days and are heavily envied by people who know pit bulls. Plus I noticed my girl went through spurts. She's a beauty anyways
Thanks, and Mia says thanks, she knows she's pretty haha.

Yeah that's what I've noticed with my rottweiler and doberman also, that they were taller and "lanky" the first year or so then bulked up. I dont necessarily want her "big" but just rather muscular and sturdy. Whens she's playing with other dogs she just looks like a little worried puppy lol

[c10d]

Oh I just saw her pics....AAHH she's perfect. Why would you want her any bigger? The bigger they get the less agile they get, maybe focus on muscle and strengthening because thats how her structure looks already. A nice lean muscly bitch instead a fat house dog hippo, ha ha!

I wanan kiss her face. I love the pic with her ears back...I know that face all too well "get that camera outta ma face"!!!
LoL yeah she's always holdin her ears back for the most part unless she gets really alert thats when they go up and forward.

And I definitly agree on the lean muscley bitch rather than the hippo looking dogs I see a lot of people with.


she looks good to me . jager isnt that much bigger hes 9 1/2 months 48 pounds.
mia still has alot more growing to do. maybe not in hieght but she will fill out alot more.
Thanks Jager. Yeah I'm sure she's going to grow more, but its not only just the height, shes short length-wise also.

I mean I'm not as familiar with apbts as many of the members on here so I'm sure there are smaller apbts out there...maybe I'm used to how many of them are bred today are just a lot bigger. Im constantly getting friends and what not saying things like "why's she so small?" and I say "Real american pit bull terriers are not usually bred to be large dogs" and they insist theyre supposed to be comparable to a rottweiler on the smaller end. lol but what ya gonna do

[Patch O' Pits]

Post a stacked pict of her so we can see her structure better. How tall is she???

She may be short backed and have shorter legs due to the dogs behind her but really all you can tell from the picts is that she is a cutie and her weight looks perfectly normal

her being chocolate as opposed to blue has nothing to do with what her structure will be the way she was bred will determine that

[JAGER]

I dont necessarily want her "big" but just rather muscular and sturdy. Whens she's playing with other dogs she just looks like a little worried puppy lol lol i know what you mean . but dont worry she'll get there naturally, but you'll see results even faster if you work her, exercise her hard ,they love it . and in to time she'll be able to hang with the other dogs trust me im going through the same thing

[FearlessKnight]

I dont know anything about that pedigree, but I do about a couple of those lines, and I would have to say, you are very lucky she only the size she is.
I think she is beautiful! I would not worry, but keep taking care of the little thing, we have one that almost 2 yrs and she only weighs 32 pounds!

[JAGER]

read RED COCAINE'S threat I WANT TO SHOW YOU SOMETHING maybe it will teach you something

[c10d]

Ok so I JUST took some pics of her, but I couldn't get her stacked, she kept running from me since I had the digi camera. Shes afraid of weird objects like that, the clothes baskets, the vacuum, etc lol shes a goofball.

Dno if you can get anything from these pics...

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3926/img0467uo6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5372/img0472na2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3977/img0469lp7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Also, I dno how to correctly measure height so I just did it from the floor to the top of the center of her back. That was about 15 1/2 - 16 inches from floor to her back.

[Verderben]

I think she is pretty and looks to be a normal size but I do have one question. Who is she registered with? I ask because she has an awful lot of blue dogs and blue bred dogs in her ped and I find it odd she is red.

[JAGER]

Also, I dno how to correctly measure height so I just did it from the floor to the top of the center of her back. That was about 15 1/2 - 16 inches from floor to her back. dont stress over it cause she isnt . and by the way she looks great those pics. if you want i would gladly take your from you so you can get a hippo. you just pay the shipping a handling to sandiego california.lol .jager would love a good looking female around :)

[c10d]

I think she is pretty and looks to be a normal size but I do have one question. Who is she registered with? I ask because she has an awful lot of blue dogs and blue bred dogs in her ped and I find it odd she is red.
Yeah shes actually a light chocolate, but in the pics looks red. She is a rednose though.

I actually got asked this question before in a thread a made months ago due to the "blue dog" lineage.

She's reg'd with the ADBA. The link I posted in my first post on this thread where I said something like "this is my pups mother's brother" which is also a red dog. I mean it could it be possible that her papers were pulled at some point but who knows.

Her mother was multicolored, white/black markings/brindle markings/brown markings.

[c10d]

dont stress over it cause she isnt . and by the way she looks great those pics. if you want i would gladly take your from you so you can get a hippo. you just pay the shipping a handling to sandiego california.lol .jager would love a good looking female around :)
LoL she says thanks for the compliment. and no i'd not rather have a hippo, jw why she seems like shes such a lil puppy even at 10mos

[c10d]

I think she is pretty and looks to be a normal size but I do have one question. Who is she registered with? I ask because she has an awful lot of blue dogs and blue bred dogs in her ped and I find it odd she is red.
I also just googled some of the dogs from her mother's mother's side and they seem to be red dogs.

Here is a kennel with some of the dogs sharing some of the other dogs in her lineage. These dogs/pups actually resemble Mia also...

http://www.crimsonkennels.org/pastdogs.htm

[Verderben]

I also just googled some of the dogs from her mother's mother's side and they seem to be red dogs.

Here is a kennel with some of the dogs sharing some of the other dogs in her lineage. These dogs/pups actually resemble Mia also...

http://www.crimsonkennels.org/pastdogs.htmahhhh ok that kinda makes more sense now.

[MIKA]

I think she is Beautiful!! I would work her and spend as much time with her as I could and ENJOY every aspect of her growing up. Don't listen to your friends opinions.

[D'dizzle]

Good looking dog, and growing just fine. Good luck with her. BTW don't work her HARD yet IMO she is still too young, light work is fine though.

[Attila]

The dog is heavy and big enough. Right at the perfect weight. Hight looks right, size looks right and the head is the correct size for her body. Any thing else would be wrong. with that pedigree you should be very happy she is in such conformaty of how she should look.

[Phebes]

My girl Sil (pic in my signature) is 1 year next week and weighs 44lbs. I thought she was puppy looking and tiny until the foster came to live with us and now she looks like a tank. Guess Sil was just my puppy until we got a younger girl.

[Patch O' Pits]

Ok the standing pict shows that her height is fine with her weight like I figured. There is nothing wrong with her size at all . You are lucky she isn't HUGE and out of proportion like some in her pedigree

She is a cutie, good luck and enjoy her

[Lethalpits]

I think she looks good, especially for a female. I really don't like my females to be in the 50+ category. As most have said it's good that your dog is still in proportion with a + size pedigree. I would try working her and exercise to see what a good muscle definition will do for you.

[c10d]

Thanks everyone. I guess I'm comparing her size to most of the "pit bulls" around here, which usually are on avg about 60-80lbs.

And to the poster that said the smaller ones are usually more agile, I agree, well at least w/ my pup and my friends' dogs.

We go to this creek and big open field and she runs circles around their dogs. They run out of breath, lay panting, and shes running around them and jumping on them like a crackhead lol.

[BoiBoi]

She looks good to me, i think the only reason she's not as big as her lineage indicates she should be is because of her being properly fed. I've been doing some research on the whole razors edge/gotty line of dogs and i've come to the conclusion that most of those dogs can actually look good if they aren't over fed and are actually worked a little. PurplePig would be the man to talk to, he's got himself a razor's edge bitch that is turning out nice because he treats it just like his other bulldogs. Be glad she's that small and pray that she stays that small, trust me u don't want a 70-80 lb dog going crazy at the end of the leash trying to chase something that just ran infront of u, i know first hand what thats about, my boy is around 70 lbs lean and because of his strength my right arm now looks like popeye, so yea my next dog is definately gonna have to be below 50lbs, below 40 would be better easier to handle and eats and shits less

[Pitbull219]

She looks good to me, i think the only reason she's not as big as her lineage indicates she should be is because of her being properly fed. I've been doing some research on the whole razors edge/gotty line of dogs and i've come to the conclusion that most of those dogs can actually look good if they aren't over fed and are actually worked a little. PurplePig would be the man to talk to, he's got himself a razor's edge bitch that is turning out nice because he treats it just like his other bulldogs. Be glad she's that small and pray that she stays that small, trust me u don't want a 70-80 lb dog going crazy at the end of the leash trying to chase something that just ran infront of u, i know first hand what thats about, my boy is around 70 lbs lean and because of his strength my right arm now looks like popeye, so yea my next dog is definately gonna have to be below 50lbs, below 40 would be better easier to handle and eats and shits lessthat's exctly it. Yeah, some have bred their biggest male to the biggest bitch they could find in hopes of producing large off spring, but I have seen with my own eyes the difference food and excercize can truly make in these dogs. Purplepig's bitch shares some common ancestry (back in the 5th-6th gens) with my girls and mine look as good as his. I have see pics of my girls' littermates......they are huge compared to my girls. It's not genetic in their case, their owners just overfeed and the dogs hold down couch cushions all day. I asked some people about it on a couple "bully" boards, and the concensus seemed to be split. Half of them felt it was the way they were bred, while the other half admitted they fed their dogs garbage feed and didn't have the time to work them (which is funny cuz they sure have the time to breed them)