Dog Cruelty

[jdbpitbull]

today while i was at work we had the worst case of neglect i have ever seen come in a full blooded poodle was covered in its own feces over an 1" thick and it was matted up so baddly it could barely move it had feces in its face,mouth (every where). and we called AC and the police and they would do nothing the cops said it was not neglect and that as long as they were feeding and watering the dog it was fine. HOW MUCH BULLSHIT IS THAT! what else can be done we even tried buying the dog from the lady it was so disgusting you have not a clue!and then the lady admitted to the police she had 5 dogs and he said well there is a law u can only have 3 but we never push the issue unless there is a complaint and me and my boss were like well here is a complaint! i have taken pics of the dog and will try to get them up ASAP but i have to admit the are really bad! it makes me sick to my stomache! BUT who can we contact to have this law checked out (about neglect) and about the more than 5 dogs and also about getting that poor dog placed in another home is there somewhere else that will step in? because the dog was in very bad shape!PLEASE HELP

[chloesredboy]

today while i was at work we had the worst case of neglect i have ever seen come in a full blooded poodle was covered in its own feces over an 1" thick and it was matted up so baddly it could barely move it had feces in its face,mouth (every where). and we called AC and the police and they would do nothing the cops said it was not neglect and that as long as they were feeding and watering the dog it was fine. HOW MUCH BULLSHIT IS THAT! what else can be done we even tried buying the dog from the lady it was so disgusting you have not a clue!and then the lady admitted to the police she had 5 dogs and he said well there is a law u can only have 3 but we never push the issue unless there is a complaint and me and my boss were like well here is a complaint! i have taken pics of the dog and will try to get them up ASAP but i have to admit the are really bad! it makes me sick to my stomache! BUT who can we contact to have this law checked out (about neglect) and about the more than 5 dogs and also about getting that poor dog placed in another home is there somewhere else that will step in? because the dog was in very bad shape!PLEASE HELPpoor thing ,where do you work?

[jaystreetsA4]

damn poor dog. i aint a fan of the poodle but thats harsh for any dog.:(

[jdbpitbull]

poor thing ,where do you work?

i was at my job at the dog groomer but i work several places.

[jdbpitbull]

damn poor dog. i aint a fan of the poodle but thats harsh for any dog.:(

Iam not a poodle fan either but i would have taken the poor thing if we could have gotten it away with out having charges pulled on us for taking it it smelled and looked like death made over we had to wear rubber gloves just to pick it up and put it on the bathtub and bathe it it was so nasty we offered the lady 200.00 and she still wouldnt give it up and the idiots we have for police officers and AC said it wasnt cruelty! WTF!!!!

[Suki]

try here:

http://www.animallaw.info/articles/ovustxcruelty.htm

and check this out:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/260153688?ltl=1175058235

[chloesredboy]

i was at my job at the dog groomer but i work several places.i was just curious because i thought you had said you worked as a groomer before and i cant believe she would bring her dog in in that shape,i wouldve been ashamed and just shaved the dog myself.

[catcher T]

just so you know,,you can file a complaint against that officer for not doing something about a crime,,,,check the cruelty laws in your state,,,they are not just about food and water anymore,,,they are about seeing a vet,,having vaccinations,,etc.,,,you would actually be charging the officer with a misdemeanor,,,not a good punishment but its something,,,ask for a formal complaint form at the station,,,if they do not give you one internal investigations will really come down on them,,,its like calling God on the cops.

[simms]

today while i was at work we had the worst case of neglect i have ever seen come in a full blooded poodle was covered in its own feces over an 1" thick and it was matted up so baddly it could barely move it had feces in its face,mouth (every where). and we called AC and the police and they would do nothing the cops said it was not neglect and that as long as they were feeding and watering the dog it was fine. HOW MUCH BULLSHIT IS THAT! what else can be done we even tried buying the dog from the lady it was so disgusting you have not a clue!and then the lady admitted to the police she had 5 dogs and he said well there is a law u can only have 3 but we never push the issue unless there is a complaint and me and my boss were like well here is a complaint! i have taken pics of the dog and will try to get them up ASAP but i have to admit the are really bad! it makes me sick to my stomache! BUT who can we contact to have this law checked out (about neglect) and about the more than 5 dogs and also about getting that poor dog placed in another home is there somewhere else that will step in? because the dog was in very bad shape!PLEASE HELP
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING!

This women sought a service with the grooming shop you work for. Who the FUCK do you think you are to turn this lady in.....You see there is a fine line, of what consitutes cruelty and what doesnt. This woman sought "treatment" and a service. You had NO right to try and strong arm that lady.

Your Boss is a piece of shit. If your Boss gave a fuck, she would have set up a grooming schedual for this woman and made all attemps to adhere to it.

You dont know all the circumstances behind this woman.

Be glad you work where you do, cause if you had been working in any of the places I have and do. You would be out of a job!


Edit: Doesnt your boss have a vet they reffer to and why didnt she reffer that woman?

[ABK]

Treatment? Yeah, right.

I once knew a fellow who had a Chow he used for breeding. Never brushed the dog, just got him shaved once a year when the dog got too matted. Well, he ended up getting a divorce & couldn't keep his dogs. He came to me & asked me if I wanted the dog. I didn't even look at the dog. I just told him NO (5 y/o unsocliaized intact male Chow? Yeah, right!) & he said to me "Why don't you just take a look at him ... "

Well, he got the dog out of the car. He has a chain tied around his neck & had a mat the size of a dinner plate under his chin. It was so badly matted the dog couldn't fully turn his head. He was so badly matted underneath you couldn't even see his private parts & when he urinated he was urinating into his own fur.

I felt so sorry for the dog I just told the guy to tie him out back. I tried grooming him, but his fur was so matted combs & brushes couldn't even get through it & I even tried clipping him, but I didn't have the know-how to do it.

So I took him to the groomer. It took them EIGHT HOURS to clip all that matted fur off of him. He had to be clipped down almost to the bare skin. The groomer showed me his fur, which b/c it was so tangled, it looked like a bear rug. There were no "clippings" of hair. It was just one big mat in the shape of a dog. Horrible.

And this guy wasn't deficient of funds to have the dog groomed on a regular basis. He was just too lazy to brush him & too cheap to have him groomed regularly. And while I do not work at a groomer's I know folks who are groomers & have been there when unkept dogs like this come in. In most cases the circumstances are the same - the owner is too lazy to brush the dog or too cheap to have it groomed regularly. So I support jdb & if I were in her shoes I would have done the same thing!!!

(P.S. jdb I would consider calling AC & perhaps even calling in a complaint on that officer too!! :mad: )

[simms]

Treatment? Yeah, right.

I once knew a fellow who had a Chow he used for breeding. Never brushed the dog, just got him shaved once a year. Well, he ended up getting a divorce & couldn't keep his dogs. he came to me & asked me if I wanted the dog. I said NO (5 y/o intact male Chow - yeah, right!) & he said to me just take a look at him ...

Well, he got the dog out of the car & the dog had a mat the size of a dinner plate under his chin. It was so badly matted the dog couldn't fully turn his head. He was so badly matted underneath you couldn't even see his private parts & when he urinated he was urinating into his own fur.

I felt so sorry for the dog I just told the guy to tie him out back. I tried grooming him, but his fur was so matted combs & brushes couldn't even get through it & I even tried clipping him, but I didn't have the know-how to do it.

So I took him to the groomer. It took them EIGHT HOURS to clip all that matted fur off of him. He had to be clipped down almost to the bare skin. The groomer showed me his fur, which b/c it was so tangled, looked like a bear rug. There were no "clippings" of hair. It was just one big mat in the shape of a dog. Horrible.

And this guy wasn't deficient of funds to have the dog groomed on a regular basis. He was just too lazy to brush him & too cheap to have him properly groomed regularly. And while I do not work at a groomer's I know folks who are groomers & have been there when dogs like this come in. In most cases the circumstances are the same - the owner is too lazy to brush the dog or too cheap to have it groomed right. So I support jdb & if I were in her shoes I would have done the same thing!!!

(P.S. jdb I would consider calling AC & perhaps even calling in a complaint on that officer too!! :mad: )

See that's Bullshit! This woman made an attempt to fix the issue with this animal. had there been No attempt on her part then yes she would be considered neglegent!

[ABK]

See that's Bullshit! This woman made an attempt to fix the issue with this animal. had there been No attempt on her part then yes she would be considered neglegent!lmao ... yeah, our dog's former owner made an "attempt" to fix the issue too - but only after the dog was so matted that he was pissing in his own fur!

That would be like if someone came into a groomer's w/ a pit bull puppy covered in feces. We'd all be hollering to high heaven about how she shouldn't have a dog, how cruel it was for it to be kept crated in it's own sh.t, etc. But since this woman has a poodle & not a pit bull, it's OK? No, it's not OK.

I still agree w/ jdb. That owner shouldn't have ANY dogs at all. Period. I don't care what breed it is. If you can't care for them right, you don't need to have them at all. IMO what she did to that dog was gross abuse & neglegence & the dog should have been seized & put in the care of a vet on the spot.

[simms]

lmao ... yeah, our dog's former owner made an "attempt" to fix the issue too - but only after the dog was so matted that he was pissing in his own fur!

That would be like if someone came into a groomer's w/ a pit bull puppy covered in feces. We'd all be hollering to high heaven about how she shouldn't have a dog, how cruel it was for it to be kept crated in it's own sh.t, etc. But since this woman has a poodle & not a pit bull, it's OK? No, it's not OK.

I still agree w/ jdb. That owner shouldn't have ANY dogs at all. Period. I don't care what breed it is. If you can't care for them right, you don't need to have them at all & what she did to that dog was gross neglegence & abuse.

What are you talking about...there are alot of animals that piss on them selves for lack of better grooming. The only reason why this is being made a issue about is the DRAMATICS behind it..

No I wouldnt be screaming about an APBT puppy covered in its own shit...I could give to shits about that, ive seen worse...ide be glad that they brought them in for treatment!

It's a simple enough fix...

[jdbpitbull]

i was just curious because i thought you had said you worked as a groomer before and i cant believe she would bring her dog in in that shape,i wouldve been ashamed and just shaved the dog myself.

we asked her why she hadnt been cutting its hair her self atleast to keep the feces out and she said i tried but it tried to bite me! and i told her bull shit that he isnt trying to bite now with the condition he is in. and not to mention she said he got like that in 2 days when he ran away and i asked her how many more lies she could say!

[jdbpitbull]

just so you know,,you can file a complaint against that officer for not doing something about a crime,,,,check the cruelty laws in your state,,,they are not just about food and water anymore,,,they are about seeing a vet,,having vaccinations,,etc.,,,you would actually be charging the officer with a misdemeanor,,,not a good punishment but its something,,,ask for a formal complaint form at the station,,,if they do not give you one internal investigations will really come down on them,,,its like calling God on the cops.

we are having to wait for chief of police to get back in town to file any further complaints and hopefully he gets here soon before something happens to that poor dog and ecords indicate she hadnt had that dog groomed since july2006

[simms]

we are having to wait for chief of police to get back in town to file any further complaints and hopefully he gets here soon before something happens to that poor dog and ecords indicate she hadnt had that dog groomed since july2006
That is 9 months, thats not Ideal but not unheard of. what you need to ask your self is this owner a repeat offender? The dog tried to bite her so she didnt trim the hair.


YOU STRONG ARMED THIS WOMAN!!!!

[ABK]

What are you talking about...there are alot of animals that piss on them selves for lack of better grooming.

Yeah, but that dioesn't mean it's right! Just b/c other sorry pieces of crap don't care for their dogs & force them to piss on themselves, I should too? Sorry don't buy it.

The only reason why this is being made a issue about is the DRAMATICS behind it..

Yeah ... to see a dog like that calls for a little drama. Or do you think a dog covered in feces is normal & acceptable?

No I wouldnt be screaming about an APBT puppy covered in its own shit...I could give to shits about that

How nice. And we wonder why we see what we see in this breed. There you go folks, it's thought trains like that that do it. :rolleyes:


ive seen worse...ide be glad that they brought them in for treatment!

Why? So they can just go back to the same thing like my Chow did?

It's a simple enough fix...

Yeah it is - take the dog & place it in a home where it will be cared for like it should be!

Sheesh ... :rolleyes:

[jdbpitbull]

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING!

This women sought a service with the grooming shop you work for. Who the FUCK do you think you are to turn this lady in.....You see there is a fine line, of what consitutes cruelty and what doesnt. This woman sought "treatment" and a service. You had NO right to try and strong arm that lady.

Your Boss is a piece of shit. If your Boss gave a fuck, she would have set up a grooming schedual for this woman and made all attemps to adhere to it.

You dont know all the circumstances behind this woman.

Be glad you work where you do, cause if you had been working in any of the places I have and do. You would be out of a job!


Edit: Doesnt your boss have a vet they reffer to and why didnt she reffer that woman?

why you are sitting there bumping your gums my boss has been doing this ladies dog for free for years all she had to do was call her and we would pick the dog up or come by and drop it off no appt. needed so buddy there was no reason for this lady not to bring the damn dog in this long not to mention the dog fucking was sick! and to top everything else three of these dogs stay in the house that she owns and the guy that fixes the water said he has to walk over 6 inches of shit just to get to the hot water heater in the laundry room so why you are sitting there trying to judge someone for trying to help an animal that seriously needs help back the f*&^() off buddy it was in the best interest of the dog. we tried everything else first trying to buy it etc. but then she wouldnt give it up so we called animal control etc on her we did refer her to a vet and not to mention offered to take it for her. believe me i know you dont like me but when i am in the f^%*&n right on this back the F&^ off cause she dont need any dog! Not to mention she has already had a beagle taken from her.(for the same situation) There is not a reason in hell anyone should let an animal go around caked in 1" thick shit all in its eyes mouth and also where he couldnt use the rest room correctly thats just bull shit!

[jdbpitbull]

Treatment? Yeah, right.

I once knew a fellow who had a Chow he used for breeding. Never brushed the dog, just got him shaved once a year when the dog got too matted. Well, he ended up getting a divorce & couldn't keep his dogs. He came to me & asked me if I wanted the dog. I didn't even look at the dog. I just told him NO (5 y/o unsocliaized intact male Chow? Yeah, right!) & he said to me "Why don't you just take a look at him ... "

Well, he got the dog out of the car. He has a chain tied around his neck & had a mat the size of a dinner plate under his chin. It was so badly matted the dog couldn't fully turn his head. He was so badly matted underneath you couldn't even see his private parts & when he urinated he was urinating into his own fur.

I felt so sorry for the dog I just told the guy to tie him out back. I tried grooming him, but his fur was so matted combs & brushes couldn't even get through it & I even tried clipping him, but I didn't have the know-how to do it.

So I took him to the groomer. It took them EIGHT HOURS to clip all that matted fur off of him. He had to be clipped down almost to the bare skin. The groomer showed me his fur, which b/c it was so tangled, it looked like a bear rug. There were no "clippings" of hair. It was just one big mat in the shape of a dog. Horrible.

And this guy wasn't deficient of funds to have the dog groomed on a regular basis. He was just too lazy to brush him & too cheap to have him groomed regularly. And while I do not work at a groomer's I know folks who are groomers & have been there when unkept dogs like this come in. In most cases the circumstances are the same - the owner is too lazy to brush the dog or too cheap to have it groomed regularly. So I support jdb & if I were in her shoes I would have done the same thing!!!

(P.S. jdb I would consider calling AC & perhaps even calling in a complaint on that officer too!! :mad: )

we are calling in again because it was horrible it took us 4 1/2 hours just to groom a 9lb poodle it was really bad

[ABK]

"There is not a reason in hell anyone should let an animal go around caked in 1" thick shit all in its eyes mouth and also where he couldnt use the rest room correctly thats just bull shit!"

I agree!!!

And I'm glad you called in. Did you take any pics of it before grooming so AC will know what the dog looked like??

Boy, you are a better person than I am, b/c I probably would have called AC right after she left!!!

[jdbpitbull]

See that's Bullshit! This woman made an attempt to fix the issue with this animal. had there been No attempt on her part then yes she would be considered neglegent!

8 mths living in your own feces all the way to your eyeballs maybe you would feel differently

[simms]

we asked her why she hadnt been cutting its hair her self atleast to keep the feces out and she said i tried but it tried to bite me! and i told her bull shit that he isnt trying to bite now with the condition he is in. and not to mention she said he got like that in 2 days when he ran away and i asked her how many more lies she could say!

ABK. take note. this is a common factor to the lack of pet care that could be done at home. if i had the attitude that your coming with .....aint many of you that would have pets.

Jdb. Your an Idiot! i work on alot of animals that would normaly try and eat thier owners ass....but they dont even offer to bite me. I groom other ppls animals and most that would bite thier owner dont offer to bite me.

you called this woman a liar and that she was bullshiting you.....well you got alot to learn.

[simms]

8 mths living in your own feces all the way to your eyeballs maybe you would feel differently speculation ....unless you have witnessed the living conditions. some dogs are just nasty...

[ABK]

Probably.

How anyone can be so blase about something like this amazes me.

[simms]

why you are sitting there bumping your gums my boss has been doing this ladies dog for free for years all she had to do was call her and we would pick the dog up or come by and drop it off no appt. needed so buddy there was no reason for this lady not to bring the damn dog in this long not to mention the dog fucking was sick! and to top everything else three of these dogs stay in the house that she owns and the guy that fixes the water said he has to walk over 6 inches of shit just to get to the hot water heater in the laundry room so why you are sitting there trying to judge someone for trying to help an animal that seriously needs help back the f*&^() off buddy it was in the best interest of the dog. we tried everything else first trying to buy it etc. but then she wouldnt give it up so we called animal control etc on her we did refer her to a vet and not to mention offered to take it for her. believe me i know you dont like me but when i am in the f^%*&n right on this back the F&^ off cause she dont need any dog! Not to mention she has already had a beagle taken from her.(for the same situation) There is not a reason in hell anyone should let an animal go around caked in 1" thick shit all in its eyes mouth and also where he couldnt use the rest room correctly thats just bull shit! Information is everything ....you gave only part of the story.

[jdbpitbull]

8 mths living in your own feces all the way to your eyeballs maybe you would feel differently

this isnt her first offence she had a beagle that was covered in shit also a couple years ago that did eventually get replaced because of how bad it was it was kept apparently in a crate and it legs where piss and shit stained. and her dogs get done for free so its not like she wasnt getting help or tried to give her help because if someone did my dog for free and i didnt have to make an appt just call and we would go down and pick the dog up just so it could be healthy then mine would be in here on a weekly or monthly bases because no animal i dont care what breed or species should have to live in that kind of enviroment cause there is no way you could possibly pet it without catch ing something yourself my nose is stopped completely up and i could smell this dog it was horrible not to mention she was also breaking the law about having more than 3 dogs and the law still did nothing

[jdbpitbull]

Information is everything ....you gave only part of the story.

i gave enough of the story a dog covered in shit up to its eyeballs 1" thick all over its body shit not mud is very much neglegent

[ABK]

simms: I do not give one flip about negligence being a "common fact." Just b/c it is a common fact does not mean it is right!

And maybe if more ppl "came at them" w/ the attitude I have yes, fewer ppl would own pets. But did it ever occur to you that that could be a GOOD thing? Some ppl just don't need pets.

jdb: I have to side w/ simms about the biting thing. It is a fact that dogs will often try to bite their owners but not bite their groomers b/c the dogs have dominance over the owners, so they are likely to bite, whereas dominance has not been established by the dog over the groomer, so they often will not try to bite a groomer (although some will).

[simms]

this isnt her first offence she had a beagle that was covered in shit also a couple years ago that did eventually get replaced because of how bad it was it was kept apparently in a crate and it legs where piss and shit stained. and her dogs get done for free so its not like she wasnt getting help or tried to give her help because if someone did my dog for free and i didnt have to make an appt just call and we would go down and pick the dog up just so it could be healthy then mine would be in here on a weekly or monthly bases because no animal i dont care what breed or species should have to live in that kind of enviroment cause there is no way you could possibly pet it without catch ing something yourself my nose is stopped completely up and i could smell this dog it was horrible not to mention she was also breaking the law about having more than 3 dogs and the law still did nothing
This woman is a repeat offender. There are many large orgs that you can contact that will come out and handle the situation.

[jdbpitbull]

ABK. take note. this is a common factor to the lack of pet care that could be done at home. if i had the attitude that your coming with .....aint many of you that would have pets.

Jdb. Your an Idiot! i work on alot of animals that would normaly try and eat thier owners ass....but they dont even offer to bite me. I groom other ppls animals and most that would bite thier owner dont offer to bite me.

you called this woman a liar and that she was bullshiting you.....well you got alot to learn.

guess what i maybe an idiot but when i see an animal in a very bad situation at least i aint to stupid to open my mouth about it and not just let an animal stay in a situation like this but after all if it was anyone else that would have posted this you would have been right along with them! but after all its me so your gonna bash all you can! yes i did call her a liar for several reasons yesterday not all have i mentioned because it is not about that it is about this poor dog!

[simms]

simms: I do not give one flip about negligence being a "common fact." Just b/c it is a common fact does not mean it is right!

jdb: I have to side w/ simms about the biting thing. It is a fact that dogs will often try to bite their owners but not bite their groomers b/c the dogs have dominance over the owners, so they are likely to bite, whereas dominance has not been established by the dog over the groomer, so they often will not try to bite a groomer (although some will).

you consider why it is .....lack of knowledge and fear

[ABK]

What I don't understand is this - if she is a repeat offender who has already had a dog seized once before for this, why has the AC & PD done nothing? They should be right on it, esp. AC.

[simms]

i gave enough of the story a dog covered in shit up to its eyeballs 1" thick all over its body shit not mud is very much neglegent
No you didnt....

and i consider you a dramma queen.

[Michele]

No you didnt....

and i consider you a dramma queen.I'm with JDB. It's animal abuse, it's negligent and it's disgusting. AND she was already in trouble once before. She should not have any animals. Call AC, call the SPCA. Keep calling until someone listens to you.

Simms: I can't figure out how you can possibly condone a dog that is so badly neglected.

[jdbpitbull]

simms: I do not give one flip about negligence being a "common fact." Just b/c it is a common fact does not mean it is right!

And maybe if more ppl "came at them" w/ the attitude I have yes, fewer ppl would own pets. But did it ever occur to you that that could be a GOOD thing? Some ppl just don't need pets.

jdb: I have to side w/ simms about the biting thing. It is a fact that dogs will often try to bite their owners but not bite their groomers b/c the dogs have dominance over the owners, so they are likely to bite, whereas dominance has not been established by the dog over the groomer, so they often will not try to bite a groomer (although some will).

even at that my boss has offered to go pick the dog up and do it for free so that isnt even the issue

[simms]

What I don't understand is this - if she is a repeat offender who has already had a dog seized once before for this, why has the AC & PD done nothing? They should be right on it, esp. AC.
if it is documented. If they want the right results they need to contact human health services.
That's if the living conditions are that of described.

[ABK]

simms: Surely you are not purporting that negligence is due to a lack of knowledge & fear. Or did I misunderstand your post...?

And I don't think jdb is being a drama queen at all. I think she has a very real concern for the health & welfare of the animal. I think you are either ...

a: trying to stir the pot by playing the bad guy.

or

b: are just heartless.

But I have to say this - you are wise. Contacting health services would probably get results.

[Michele]

Contacting health services would probably get results.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
I agree with this.

SIMMS: i dont mean to come off as being a bitch..but shit like this gets me very upset.....sorry

[jdbpitbull]

What I don't understand is this - if she is a repeat offender who has already had a dog seized once before for this, why has the AC & PD done nothing? They should be right on it, esp. AC.

your guess is as good as mine because 2 police and ac came in there and the police said that to him neglegents is if they are not fed or watered he said it looks like he is getting fed and watered so it isnt really a concern to him so we are waiting to complain about that when the chief of police gets back in town and our ac is just a city maintance guy and he says he dont care either way! now we have also contacted a lady who is involved with the poodle rescue of houston to see if they cant do something

[simms]

I'm with JDB. It's animal abuse, it's negligent and it's disgusting. AND she was already in trouble once before. She should not have any animals. Call AC, call the SPCA. Keep calling until someone listens to you.

Simms: I can't figure out how you can possibly condone a dog that is so badly neglected.
My backrouand experience is much different than the average person. i didnt say that i condone this either.

that's fine that you agree with the OP. In light of the information I agree that something should be done....however with only part of the information originaly provided....No I wouldnt agree.

[ChiaPit]

jdbpitbull - I hope someone took pictures of the dog before it was groomed.

I fostered an old 9 year old poodle in her last days and I would allow her hair to grow long and fluffy during the cold months so sometimes it was five months or so between haircuts and she NEVER had so much as a dingleball of crap on her, nor did she have matts ....thats disgusting and the lazy ass owner doesn't need ANY pets. All you have to do is bathe and brush your dog and if someone isn't willing to provide those BASIC care needs, what else are they not providing?

[ABK]

lol, reminds me of my town jdb.

Years ago out neighbor had a Chow mix puppy. His only shelter was a wooden table. Well one hot summer day his cable got tangled around one of the table's legs. He couldn't reach his water & I knew by the way he was looking heat stroke would kill this pup. I went over to untangle him & the little ingrate bit me! So I called AC to untangle the dog (that's what they get paid for right? I don't get paid to take dog bites! lol). All they did was put a notice on the guy's door & didn't even untangle the pup. I asked them about them only giving the pup a wooden table for shelter & he told me so long as it has shelter & water, that's all they cared about. I ended up going over there after AC left & just pushing the pup's water bowl (which was a used plastic oil pan. Nice.) closer to him where he could get it so the poor little pup wouldn't die. :(

[jdbpitbull]

if it is documented. If they want the right results they need to contact human health services.
That's if the living conditions are that of described.

call me drama queen or whatever you wish i m not gonna keep my mouth shut to a dog in those kind of circum stances! and i have never been in her house but that dog is kept inside and looks like that and thats what the guy that worked on her house said so i am believing her house really looks like that and we never thought about human services ill have to check in to that one cause something does need to be done

[simms]

simms: Surely you are not purporting that negligence is due to a lack of knowledge & fear. Or did I misunderstand your post...?

And I don't think jdb is being a drama queen at all. I think she has a very real concern for the health & welfare of the animal. I think you are either ...

a: trying to stir the pot by playing the bad guy.

or

b: are just heartless.

But I have to say this - you are wise. Contacting health services would probably get results.

Yeah i'm the devils advocate.... i look at facts and all the information. i take accusations seriously.

Most accusations are made from speculating.

Not to mention ive been in this buisness for a long time.

i never said that neglegence was ok an i never said that animal abuse is ok.

[jdbpitbull]

jdbpitbull - I hope someone took pictures of the dog before it was groomed.

I fostered an old 9 year old poodle in her last days and I would allow her hair to grow long and fluffy during the cold months so sometimes it was five months or so between haircuts and she NEVER had so much as a dingleball of crap on her, nor did she have matts ....thats disgusting and the lazy ass owner doesn't need ANY pets. All you have to do is bathe and brush your dog and if someone isn't willing to provide those BASIC care needs, what else are they not providing?

ihave pics i am fixing tto send them to michele because i cant get them to post so everyone can see them it is really gross and the dog was also running a high fever

[ABK]

simms: Goodness gracious, what kind of facts would have to be presented to make excuses for such care of an animal? The fact of the matter is that animal was nasty & the nastiness came from one thing - neglect.

And while I agree some accusations are based on pure speculation, this accusation seems to be pretty well founded.

jdb: Poor baby. I hope she can get inot the hands of a loving home.

And I'm glad you're calling health services. That canine sewer she lives in can't be good for the neighborhood & this woman might have (probably has!) a mental illness that needs to be dealt w/ as well.

[jdbpitbull]

lol, reminds me of my town jdb.

Years ago out neighbor had a Chow mix puppy. His only shelter was a wooden table. Well one hot summer day his cable got tangled around one of the table's legs. He couldn't reach his water & I knew by the way he was looking heat stroke would kill this pup. I went over to untangle him & the little ingrate bit me! So I called AC to untangle the dog (that's what they get paid for right? I don't get paid to take dog bites! lol). All they did was put a notice on the guy's door & didn't even untangle the pup. I asked them about them only giving the pup a wooden table for shelter & he told me so long as it has shelter & water, that's all they cared about. I ended up going over there after AC left & just pushing the pup's water bowl (which was a used plastic oil pan. Nice.) closer to him where he could get it so the poor little pup wouldn't die. :(

see that is sad! AC just doesnt give a damn

[Michele]

JDB: let me know when you send the pictures....:)

[ABK]

see that is sad! AC just doesnt give a damn
Not unless you have pit bulls it doesn't.

But that is a whole 'nother subject ...

[simms]

simms: Goodness gracious, what kind of facts would have to be presented to make excuses for such care of an animal? The fact of the matter is that animal was nasty & the nastiness came from one thing - neglect.

And while I agree some accusations are based on pure speculation, this accusation seems to be pretty well founded.

jdb: Poor baby. I hope she can get inot the hands of a loving home.

And I'm glad you're calling health services. That canine sewer she lives in can't be good for the neighborhood & this woman might have (probably has!) a mental illness that needs to be dealt w/ as well.

taking care of pets requires sometimes you take care of the ppl. The pet population has this revolving door mentality.

[Verderben]

i was just curious because i thought you had said you worked as a groomer before and i cant believe she would bring her dog in in that shape,i wouldve been ashamed and just shaved the dog myself.You would be surprised what people bring in, here is a dog I did that was REALLY matted:
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e266/CutePups/work8-17-05012.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e266/CutePups/work8-17-05013.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e266/CutePups/work8-17-05014.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e266/CutePups/work8-17-05025.jpg

[ABK]

The last pic is what my Chow's hair looked like. A perfect little outline of matted fur. :(

[jdbpitbull]

You would be surprised what people bring in, here is a dog I did that was REALLY matted:
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e266/CutePups/work8-17-05012.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e266/CutePups/work8-17-05013.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e266/CutePups/work8-17-05014.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e266/CutePups/work8-17-05025.jpg

and see that dog looks good compared to the one i am talking about

[MAXIM]

Granted she brought the dog in to get groomed, AMEN, but still the dog should be groomed regularly....That is neglect! What if she doesnt feed this dog for a long time lets say, and one day she decides to feed her, SURE SHE NOW IS MAKING AN ATTEMPT TO DO SO, but what about all those weeks or months of the suffering that the dog experienced? Not fair! Pple like that, if not have their pets taken away, then at least should be FINED for such wrong doing!

[ABK]

What I don't understand is why do ppl even GET these dogs? You know a poodle will need groomed. You know a Chow will need groomed, etc. Why not get a short haired dog for pete's sake if you're not going to groom a long-haired one??

[Michele]

What I don't understand is why do ppl even GET these dogs? You know a poodle will need groomed. You know a Chow will need groomed, etc. Why not get a short haired dog for pete's sake if you're not going to groom a long-haired one??
exactly. get a low mainentance dog.....

[jdbpitbull]

What I don't understand is why do ppl even GET these dogs? You know a poodle will need groomed. You know a Chow will need groomed, etc. Why not get a short haired dog for pete's sake if you're not going to groom a long-haired one??

see i had gotten an aussie here a while back and figured out i couldnt deal withthe long hair so placed him in another forever home with a guy who owned and worked aussies

[MAXIM]

exactly. get a low mainentance dog.....Or dont get a dog @ all, how about that? Cause if they cant groom a dog that has long hair, then i wonder what the short haired dog will have that they will neglect as well? If you neglect one type of dog, i wouldnt put it past them to neglect another type! Pple like that prolly dont even groom themselves, let along an animal...They should just be banned from having pets period!

[coolhandjean]

maybe the police felt since the lady had brought her dog to the groomer, she was trying to correct her wrong doing....
but yeah, that is pretty horrible.

[Michele]

Or dont get a dog @ all, how about that? Cause if they cant groom a dog that has long hair, then i wonder what the short haired dog will have that they will neglect as well? If you neglect one type of dog, i wouldnt put it past them to neglect another type! Pple like that prolly dont even groom themselves, let along an animal...They should just be banned from having pets period!
good point and good post.....

[Michele]

Here are the pictures of the dog and if this is not neglect, I dont know what is:

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/dogcruelty3.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/dogcruelty2.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/dogcruelty.jpg

[ChiaPit]

Oh, that poor dog. I bet she was confined in a cage or kennel with no choice but to lay in her poop. I sure hope someone helps that dog.

[Pitbull219]

can't see the pics.....


http://www.pitbulltalk.com/images/smiles/redx.gif

[ChiaPit]

Here are the pictures of the dog and if this is not neglect, I dont know what is:

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/dogcruelty3.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/dogcruelty2.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/dogcruelty.jpg
The more I think about this, the angrier I get.

[SAM_I_AM]

can't see the pics.....


http://www.pitbulltalk.com/images/smiles/redx.gifme neither... smiley is bad a$$!!!!

[chinasmom]

None here either. IMO, it is neglect because the dog was allowed to get in this condition. If she had not fed him in 2 months he would be considered neglected because he was starving, but not if he is not groomed?

[SMOKIN HEMI]

Down here there waas a dog that had not been groomed and was tied to a fence. People got all up in arms about the dog the lady was feeding it and all but never got the dog groomed. So took it upon themselves to dognap the pooch and get it groomed. Needless to say the lady who took the dog got locked up. IMO I think people should mind there own business to a point. Now if the lady brought the dog in I wouldn't say it was neglect. I don't like to get AC invovled in anything. Though I know people that work at AC. All I know is is that they put Pitbulls down (QUICKILY)!!! I don't like that. http://www.game-dog.com/forums/images/icons/icon8.gif
If the dog was sick most groomers won't let the dog past the door. I think if the lady had problems maybe someone should have given the woman advice. This might have happend I did not read all of ther post. Get the Sheriff, AC and other goverment officals is overkill to me......IMO

[jdbpitbull]

Down here there waas a dog that had not been groomed and was tied to a fence. People got all up in arms about the dog the lady was feeding it and all but never got the dog groomed. So took it upon themselves to dognap the pooch and get it groomed. Needless to say the lady who took the dog got locked up. IMO I think people should mind there own business to a point. Now if the lady brought the dog in I wouldn't say it was neglect. I don't like to get AC invovled in anything. Though I know people that work at AC. All I know is is that they put Pitbulls down (QUICKILY)!!! I don't like that. http://www.game-dog.com/forums/images/icons/icon8.gif
If the dog was sick most groomers won't let the dog past the door. I think if the lady had problems maybe someone should have given the woman advice. This might have happend I did not read all of ther post. Get the Sheriff, AC and other goverment officals is overkill to me......IMO

you would be sick to if you were covered in shit for eight months we couldnt let the dog stay like that that was sickening poor thing couldnt even crap right from sitting in pooh and being matted up so bad the dog was pretty after the matts and pooh was gone and what s bad is that since she herself isnt physically abusing or starving or dehydrating the poodle she really cant be charged for anything so we are writing to everyone we can think of to see exactly what condition these dogs have to be in to be considered neglected cause to me that one was very neglected there is no reason that dog should be put through that and not to mention those who said to call human services we did today so well see how things turn out i just hope it isnt to late

[Turner]

Cant see the pics either... Lol love the smiley pitbull219!!!

Sounds pretty bad though... 'round here AC/Police dont react 'till the animal is dead... unless its a "pit bull" type dog. Then they go put it to sleep themselves... But, as said, that is a whole nother topic

[ABK]

Down here there waas a dog that had not been groomed and was tied to a fence. People got all up in arms about the dog the lady was feeding it and all but never got the dog groomed. So took it upon themselves to dognap the pooch and get it groomed. Needless to say the lady who took the dog got locked up. IMO I think people should mind there own business to a point. Now if the lady brought the dog in I wouldn't say it was neglect. I don't like to get AC invovled in anything. Though I know people that work at AC. All I know is is that they put Pitbulls down (QUICKILY)!!! I don't like that. http://www.game-dog.com/forums/images/icons/icon8.gif
If the dog was sick most groomers won't let the dog past the door. I think if the lady had problems maybe someone should have given the woman advice. This might have happend I did not read all of ther post. Get the Sheriff, AC and other goverment officals is overkill to me......IMO
Sometimes the sheriff or AC HAS to get involved. Yeah, we might not like their views about pit bulls, but if an animal is being neglected or abused, that doesn't give you an excuse to turn your head to it. Oh well, AC puts pit bulls down, so I'm going to let this poodle (or whatever animal) suffer. What kind of whacked out thinking is that??

[jdbpitbull]

you no there is a couple people on here that would apparently turn their backs to someone killing an animal for no reason and just wouldnt even care regardless of the breed that lady was basically killing her dog because the poor dog couldnt eat right it couldnt see its ears where matted where they couldnt move and not to mention it couldnt use the bathroom right its butt was matted together so if that not abuse in its own little manner tell me what is not to mention there is no way it could be healthy for the people that were living in the house considering the dog stays in the house and is covered in shit so maybe the ones that think i did wrong for getting AC police etc. envolved need to rethink their views and if yall think that is ok i really would hate to see what you let your own dogs wallow in!

[chinasmom]

Down here there waas a dog that had not been groomed and was tied to a fence. People got all up in arms about the dog the lady was feeding it and all but never got the dog groomed. So took it upon themselves to dognap the pooch and get it groomed. Needless to say the lady who took the dog got locked up. IMO I think people should mind there own business to a point. Now if the lady brought the dog in I wouldn't say it was neglect. I don't like to get AC invovled in anything. Though I know people that work at AC. All I know is is that they put Pitbulls down (QUICKILY)!!! I don't like that. http://www.game-dog.com/forums/images/icons/icon8.gif
If the dog was sick most groomers won't let the dog past the door. I think if the lady had problems maybe someone should have given the woman advice. This might have happend I did not read all of ther post. Get the Sheriff, AC and other goverment officals is overkill to me......IMO
Don't know which one would be the best to contact, but they should be contacted, difinetly. If some one you know is not bathing their kids, are the authorities going to say, "Well you're feeding them and providing a roof over their heads, so there's nothing we can do." Doubt it!!!

[jdbpitbull]

Don't know which one would be the best to contact, but they should be contacted, difinetly. If some one you know is not bathing their kids, are the authorities going to say, "Well you're feeding them and providing a roof over their heads, so there's nothing we can do." Doubt it!!!

we are by passing all of the AC and police department and gonna try to bring the poodle rescue from houston and the aspca from houston

[ChiaPit]

jdbpitbull...I think people REALLY need to see the pics to grasp what is happening to this dog...see if one of the mods can help get them up in this post

[SMOKIN HEMI]

Sometimes the sheriff or AC HAS to get involved. Yeah, we might not like their views about pit bulls, but if an animal is being neglected or abused, that doesn't give you an excuse to turn your head to it. Oh well, AC puts pit bulls down, so I'm going to let this poodle (or whatever animal) suffer. What kind of whacked out thinking is that??

Maybe you are right I just don't care for AC all that much. They are dog killers you ask me. I do know that there are peoplein this world that do not need to own dogs!!!!


Chinasmom:
Don't know which one would be the best to contact, but they should be contacted, difinetly. If some one you know is not bathing their kids, are the authorities going to say, "Well you're feeding them and providing a roof over their heads, so there's nothing we can do." Doubt it!!!<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
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Point well taken!

[simms]

you no there is a couple people on here that would apparently turn their backs to someone killing an animal for no reason and just wouldnt even care regardless of the breed that lady was basically killing her dog because the poor dog couldnt eat right it couldnt see its ears where matted where they couldnt move and not to mention it couldnt use the bathroom right its butt was matted together so if that not abuse in its own little manner tell me what is not to mention there is no way it could be healthy for the people that were living in the house considering the dog stays in the house and is covered in shit so maybe the ones that think i did wrong for getting AC police etc. envolved need to rethink their views and if yall think that is ok i really would hate to see what you let your own dogs wallow in!
Is this post directed towards me? I'm not going to appologise to you..... You were busy with your emotions and drammatics to state all the facts in the first post. yet at the end of this thread thus far your still giving information that could have been provided in the first post.

if your offended that's your problem

[ABK]

Maybe you are right I just don't care for AC all that much. They are dog killers you ask me. I do know that there are peoplein this world that do not need to own dogs!!!!
I don't care for AC either & I think they are dog killers too. And I also agree that some ppl do not need to own dogs. But as you yourself pointed out, we cannot take the law in our own hands. When we see a dog being neglected it is our duty (IMO anyway) to call AC.

[CynthiaATL]

At my job we have a groomer and we have dogs come in like that. At least 1 a week sometimes more. And yes I feel it is cruel. If the matt gets to tight it can cause a skin infection. Among other things. But unfortunately in some cities as long as you are feeding and watering your dog. You are not breaking the law. It is the laws that need to be changed.

And we also have a few clients that only get their dog shaved once a yr at the beginning of summer.

But you also have to realize that it is hard sometimes to prove cruelty. Even though it is blatant to some of us. That is why you have to have proof. And she did bring it in. So to some it may look like she is trying to get help.

The Vet I work for has reported people. Like this one time when an owner had a collar growing into an APBT neck. The Dr said if he did not treat or get the antibiotics he was going to report. And he did. The dog was taken and PTS at AC. He was PTS because he was an APBT. But that is another subject.

[chloesredboy]

why you are sitting there bumping your gums my boss has been doing this ladies dog for free for years all she had to do was call her and we would pick the dog up or come by and drop it off no appt. needed so buddy there was no reason for this lady not to bring the damn dog in this long not to mention the dog fucking was sick! and to top everything else three of these dogs stay in the house that she owns and the guy that fixes the water said he has to walk over 6 inches of shit just to get to the hot water heater in the laundry room so why you are sitting there trying to judge someone for trying to help an animal that seriously needs help back the f*&^() off buddy it was in the best interest of the dog. we tried everything else first trying to buy it etc. but then she wouldnt give it up so we called animal control etc on her we did refer her to a vet and not to mention offered to take it for her. believe me i know you dont like me but when i am in the f^%*&n right on this back the F&^ off cause she dont need any dog! Not to mention she has already had a beagle taken from her.(for the same situation) There is not a reason in hell anyone should let an animal go around caked in 1" thick shit all in its eyes mouth and also where he couldnt use the rest room correctly thats just bull shit!Is this woman elderly?alot of people,particularly the elderly are "animal Collectors"from what you describe about her living situation this may be the case.Im sure many people will disagree with me but people who have this disorder do care about there animals!In there minds providing an animal with a home and food is better than them being euthed even if they cant properly care for their animals.They do care and do think they are helping the animal.Maybe instead of calling the police you could try calling social services to see if this woman might be able to get some help."Animal Collectors" are mentally ill.Maybe you and your boss could offer to come by and help her ,then after she trusts you ,you can help educate her about the proper care of animals and hopefully improve the situation for the animals and the woman.From all your posts im really starting to think this might be the case.And calling ac or cops will only make it worse.This women will become very distustfull of you and all animal care providers and that will just result in her being more reluctant to seek help when she needs it.The fact that shes allready had dogs taken from her and she just gets more,and that she has more than a couple animals in these conditions really points to animal hoarding.Sounds like she needs some help,and while you may not be able to provide her with the mental help she needs ,you can help her with the animal problem.

[jdbpitbull]

Is this woman elderly?alot of people,particularly the elderly are "animal Collectors"from what you describe about her living situation this may be the case.Im sure many people will disagree with me but people who have this disorder do care about there animals!In there minds providing an animal with a home and food is better than them being euthed even if they cant properly care for their animals.They do care and do think they are helping the animal.Maybe instead of calling the police you could try calling social services to see if this woman might be able to get some help."Animal Collectors" are mentally ill.Maybe you and your boss could offer to come by and help her ,then after she trusts you ,you can help educate her about the proper care of animals and hopefully improve the situation for the animals and the woman.From all your posts im really starting to think this might be the case.And calling ac or cops will only make it worse.This women will become very distustfull of you and all animal care providers and that will just result in her being more reluctant to seek help when she needs it.The fact that shes allready had dogs taken from her and she just gets more,and that she has more than a couple animals in these conditions really points to animal hoarding.Sounds like she needs some help,and while you may not be able to provide her with the mental help she needs ,you can help her with the animal problem.

see my boss has been doing this ladies dogs for free for years even going to pick them up reminding her of appointments and not to mention bought dog food and other supplies needed for them and then she all of a sudden was out of contact and no one seen her so we thought she had moved in with family but she is an older woman but even if she has the mental illness animal cruelty is cruelty it isnt just matted it is covered in crap!

[jdbpitbull]

jdbpitbull...I think people REALLY need to see the pics to grasp what is happening to this dog...see if one of the mods can help get them up in this post iwill try it again

[kanediggity]

i know we cant talk about certain types of dogs here so why are we allowed to talk about poodles or whatever type of dog . just a thought. sometimes it is alright and others it is not. ok let the bashing begin lol.

[kanediggity]

i know we cant talk about certain types of dogs here so why are we allowed to talk about poodles or whatever type of dog . just a thought. sometimes it is alright and others it is not. ok let the bashing begin lol.im just sorry my breed or type of dog is being discrimnated against so maybe its just not pitbulls that get the bad rap.

[jdbpitbull]

im just sorry my breed or type of dog is being discrimnated against so maybe its just not pitbulls that get the bad rap.

what are you talking about?

[kanediggity]

nevermind sorry lol. i didnt think before i posted it, so please excuse my post.

[kanediggity]

nevermind sorry lol. i didnt think before i posted it, so please excuse my post.or maybe it is i have alot of pull dogs, and they are not allowed here. thats fine with me this is not the pull dog board,. but maybe just because someone has the ped on there dog they are game dogs even though they have one lonely dog in an apartment somewhere that has never seen antoher dog now does this constitute a game dog to me the ped doesnt mean a thing, its only a tool to learn more about possibilities. but i figure if we can talk about poodles why not every dog. makes since to me. the poodle or whatever mutt is gettign abused gets all the glory why not the mutts that are being considered the same breed that are doing good for the breed dont get anything . but bashed.... what you say here is not going to change anything so do you thin if everyone worked together we might get farther, who is out in the public eye wouldnt you want to help educate the ones that have no idea instead of bash them they are the ones in the public eye. im not saying the conformation people here are not at all. they are some great people but so many of the critics here do nothing, what im tryin to say is as bad as you hate it there is a lot of dogs being considered apbt's and the more you turn people away with your bashing the more people you lose in your fight against bsl. im not at all saying accept anything as i know as much as anyone what the apbt is but i also know what is being considered the apbt and to me there is strength in numbers and if we can beat it everywhere then we have accomplished something but if we try to do it alone and lose we have accomplished nothing. this si just my thoughts on things so please dont bash me.

[short1]

nevermind sorry lol. i didnt think before i posted it, so please excuse my post.you have to remember that the elderly dont see hear or smell that well. I once had a poodle come in covered in matts I mean bad and it had maggots was it abuse? after talking to the older women no she didnt even realize what was going on with her dog she thought it was just smelling a little funny and the dog would sleep with her can u imagine how gross . I see this alot!seen maggets twice both belonging to elderly women who didnt have a clue but they did try and do something about it and the crap stuck to the dog I get those every late summer people only groom there dogs once a year and guess what they come in in very matted conditon urine soked do I call on them hell NOI dont want them to fear that the groomers gonna call the cops or ac on them cuz then the dog may never get taken care at least I can help them once a year and have gotten them to bring the dog in 2times a year so its not so hard on the dog and in this stat its not abuse if they have taken the dog to the groomer it shows there doing something

[jdbpitbull]

or maybe it is i have alot of pull dogs, and they are not allowed here. thats fine with me this is not the pull dog board,. but maybe just because someone has the ped on there dog they are game dogs even though they have one lonely dog in an apartment somewhere that has never seen antoher dog now does this constitute a game dog to me the ped doesnt mean a thing, its only a tool to learn more about possibilities. but i figure if we can talk about poodles why not every dog. makes since to me. the poodle or whatever mutt is gettign abused gets all the glory why not the mutts that are being considered the same breed that are doing good for the breed dont get anything .

this thread isnt about getting anything glory its about finding this dog some help and getting some info on what the law in texas believe me there aint nothing glorified about this dog it is in a very sickening and disgusting situation and there a lot of damn good people that no there shit that can get info quick that are members of this forum and maybe a freakin life can be saved and this woman can get some help! and i havent bad mouthed nothing of yours could careless about any of that i have to full blood dogs with no papers but i dont sweat over someone callin them a mutt i know where they come from so go make your own thread with your complaint if you want too cuz like i said i dont even like poodles but it is still a living creature and should be treated with some respect!

[jdbpitbull]

you have to remember that the elderly dont see hear or smell that well. I once had a poodle come in covered in matts I mean bad and it had maggots was it abuse? after talking to the older women no she didnt even realize what was going on with her dog she thought it was just smelling a little funny and the dog would sleep with her can u imagine how gross . I see this alot!seen maggets twice both belonging to elderly women who didnt have a clue but they did try and do something about it and the crap stuck to the dog I get those every late summer people only groom there dogs once a year and guess what they come in in very matted conditon urine soked do I call on them hell NOI dont want them to fear that the groomers gonna call the cops or ac on them cuz then the dog may never get taken care at least I can help them once a year and have gotten them to bring the dog in 2times a year so its not so hard on the dog and in this stat its not abuse if they have taken the dog to the groomer it shows there doing something

this dog was getting done for FREE in the past getting picked up etc. we tried buying it from her it had 1" thick shit all the way up to its eyes! and matted to the bone well if you can turn your head you got strong nerve but see this lady has been helped a hundred times and not to mention for free but i cant just turn my head the other way and see this go on there are a few people on here that seen the pics of the dog i just cant get them posted up trying to get somebody to help a couple hav tried but they couldnt get them to either but point is turn your back if you want too i cant

[chloesredboy]

see my boss has been doing this ladies dogs for free for years even going to pick them up reminding her of appointments and not to mention bought dog food and other supplies needed for them and then she all of a sudden was out of contact and no one seen her so we thought she had moved in with family but she is an older woman but even if she has the mental illness animal cruelty is cruelty it isnt just matted it is covered in crap!I understand your anger but you have to realize calling the police or A.C. on this woman will not solve anything.She doesnt see what she's doing as being cruel.She thinks she is helping the animals.Even if the police decide that it is a case of cruelty and take her animals she will simply go find more.I love animals as much as anyone on here,but,i have to saythis poor woman needs help more than the dog does.I am not trying to tell you you have to fix this womans problem,but maybe you could give her just a little of that sympathy and compassion that you have for the poor animals.Like i said in my last post,educating and helping her would be a wonderfull way to help her and the animals.I worked with the elderly for years,it sounds cliche,but most of them really are just lonley.If you can find time and are willing,just spend some time with her,maybe offer to come to her home to groom her animals.Soon enough she will trust you enough to let you help her with the animal situation.Please though,whatever you do dont pursue the thing with the police.Most elderly people have allready lost so much.

[kanediggity]

this thread isnt about getting anything glory its about finding this dog some help and getting some info on what the law in texas believe me there aint nothing glorified about this dog it is in a very sickening and disgusting situation and there a lot of damn good people that no there shit that can get info quick that are members of this forum and maybe a freakin life can be saved and this woman can get some help! and i havent bad mouthed nothing of yours could careless about any of that i have to full blood dogs with no papers but i dont sweat over someone callin them a mutt i know where they come from so go make your own thread with your complaint if you want too cuz like i said i dont even like poodles but it is still a living creature and should be treated with some respect!
i should clarify i love all dog breeds be it a mutt or what not and nothing i said i swear was pointed at one person so i apologize for that i hope the best for you.

[jdbpitbull]

I understand your anger but you have to realize calling the police or A.C. on this woman will not solve anything.She doesnt see what she's doing as being cruel.She thinks she is helping the animals.Even if the police decide that it is a case of cruelty and take her animals she will simply go find more.I love animals as much as anyone on here,but,i have to saythis poor woman needs help more than the dog does.I am not trying to tell you you have to fix this womans problem,but maybe you could give her just a little of that sympathy and compassion that you have for the poor animals.Like i said in my last post,educating and helping her would be a wonderfull way to help her and the animals.I worked with the elderly for years,it sounds cliche,but most of them really are just lonley.If you can find time and are willing,just spend some time with her,maybe offer to come to her home to groom her animals.Soon enough she will trust you enough to let you help her with the animal situation.Please though,whatever you do dont pursue the thing with the police.Most elderly people have allready lost so much.

she has a boy friend that also lives with her and he wants the dogs gone he cant stand he even says it is gross and i understand that the elderly do think they are helping but when she has had help with dog in the past and it is all done for free to begin with and even going to pick the dog up and she is the one that stopped answering her phones and returning phone calls and she isnt but 50 something thats not to old and i agree she definately has a mental issue anyone that had that dog living in the house covered in shit yeah that would make it bad! but point i am making is still i cant just turn my back on a dog in that condition and not try to place it somewhere else

[kanediggity]

she has a boy friend that also lives with her and he wants the dogs gone he cant stand he even says it is gross and i understand that the elderly do think they are helping but when she has had help with dog in the past and it is all done for free to begin with and even going to pick the dog up and she is the one that stopped answering her phones and returning phone calls and she isnt but 50 something thats not to old and i agree she definately has a mental issue anyone that had that dog living in the house covered in shit yeah that would make it bad! but point i am making is still i cant just turn my back on a dog in that condition and not try to place it somewhere else
i understand what you are saying about trying to helop that dog out it really sucks sometimes. i just try to help the ones i can and pray that the others get help. its about all you can do . but honestly at this time if there is anything i can do to help i am able, i am located in oklahoma.

[SAM_I_AM]

OK I will be the first to call BS on the whole thread. you said you had pics and that its so bad. you sent the pics to one person. and you tell me that neither of you know how to put a pic on the thread. Am I the only one who sees this? I think you are here to stir the pot and make trouble, and you arent the only one.

The dog was matted, the lady brought the dog to the groomers to get groomed. that is your job. the job should be done and that should be the end of the story. you so far have gone on for 10 pages and still cant upload pics, come on, it aint that hard to figure out.


So I am ofically calling BS on the story until we see pics of the horribly matted mutt!

thank you.

[ChiaPit]

OK I will be the first to call BS on the whole thread. you said you had pics and that its so bad. you sent the pics to one person. and you tell me that neither of you know how to put a pic on the thread. Am I the only one who sees this? I think you are here to stir the pot and make trouble, and you arent the only one.

The dog was matted, the lady brought the dog to the groomers to get groomed. that is your job. the job should be done and that should be the end of the story. you so far have gone on for 10 pages and still cant upload pics, come on, it aint that hard to figure out.


So I am ofically calling BS on the story until we see pics of the horribly matted mutt!

thank you.
Actually, I can see the pics from my work computer but not my home computer, and it is very disgusting and disturbing, that I can promise you.

[ABK]

Sam - If I read right, she has posted pics on this thread of the dog for everyone to see. Also, not only was it matted, it was covered in feces!

I dunno. I guess there are some folks on this MB that would overlooks such neglect, but I think is disgusting & cruel.

[Michele]

OK I will be the first to call BS on the whole thread. you said you had pics and that its so bad. you sent the pics to one person. and you tell me that neither of you know how to put a pic on the thread. Am I the only one who sees this? I think you are here to stir the pot and make trouble, and you arent the only one.

The dog was matted, the lady brought the dog to the groomers to get groomed. that is your job. the job should be done and that should be the end of the story. you so far have gone on for 10 pages and still cant upload pics, come on, it aint that hard to figure out.


So I am ofically calling BS on the story until we see pics of the horribly matted mutt!

thank you.I posted the pictures. Some of you cant see them. I'm going to request that JDB please send them to me again. Once you see them, you will agree that this dog is abused. And the dog was much more than matted....

[Michele]

Here are the pictures of the dog and if this is not neglect, I dont know what is:

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/dogcruelty3.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/dogcruelty2.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/dogcruelty.jpg
can anyone see these pictures???????????

[ChiaPit]

I can...but I'm at work. When I got home yesterday I couldn't see them. Try loading them to the Gallery and see if that works.



can anyone see these pictures???????????

[chinasmom]

I can...but I'm at work. When I got home yesterday I couldn't see them. Try loading them to the Gallery and see if that works.

That's what I was thinking.
all we can see are X's.

[jdbpitbull]

OK I will be the first to call BS on the whole thread. you said you had pics and that its so bad. you sent the pics to one person. and you tell me that neither of you know how to put a pic on the thread. Am I the only one who sees this? I think you are here to stir the pot and make trouble, and you arent the only one.

The dog was matted, the lady brought the dog to the groomers to get groomed. that is your job. the job should be done and that should be the end of the story. you so far have gone on for 10 pages and still cant upload pics, come on, it aint that hard to figure out.


So I am ofically calling BS on the story until we see pics of the horribly matted mutt!

thank you.

not everyone is computer smart and am one that isnt i can do the basics and that is it but who cares i know and the 3 that got to see the pics know this isnt a BS story so as soon as we can figure this pic out you will get to see them

[Michele]

ok, let me know if you can see these:

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/cruelty5.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/cruelty4.jpg


http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/cruelty3.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/cruelty2.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/cruelty1.jpg

[MAXIM]

you no there is a couple people on here that would apparently turn their backs to someone killing an animal for no reason and just wouldnt even care regardless of the breed that lady was basically killing her dog because the poor dog couldnt eat right it couldnt see its ears where matted where they couldnt move and not to mention it couldnt use the bathroom right its butt was matted together so if that not abuse in its own little manner tell me what is not to mention there is no way it could be healthy for the people that were living in the house considering the dog stays in the house and is covered in shit so maybe the ones that think i did wrong for getting AC police etc. envolved need to rethink their views and if yall think that is ok i really would hate to see what you let your own dogs wallow in!Very good point! Pple on here can argue and say its not neglect, but in all reality, IT IS, and im sorry to say! Pple who do this to their animals, should just get dealt w/ the way they do it back home, in good ol Moscow(Russia), A STRAIGHT UP ASS WHOOPING! And no one would say a damn thing about it!

[MAXIM]

ok, let me know if you can see these:

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/cruelty5.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/cruelty4.jpg


http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/cruelty3.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/cruelty2.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/cruelty1.jpgOMG! Thats just terrible!

[Pitbull219]

those I can see.....pretty nasty. How anyone could let their dog go like that I can't even begin to fathom.

[chinasmom]

Yup! Not a groomed dog at all!!! I have had poodles and you can't just wash them, they have to be clipped. Their hair is so fine it just mats overnight. I thought the 2nd pic was a terrier....

[Verderben]

can anyone see these pictures???????????I STILL cant see them. Send them to me in email I want to see it. PM for my email addy

EDIT NM I see them now

[Verderben]

ok, let me know if you can see these:

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/cruelty5.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/cruelty4.jpg


http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/cruelty3.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/cruelty2.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/cruelty1.jpgOMG that is just SAD ! Those people don't deserve a dog!

[ChiaPit]

The one that absolutely broke my heart is the one with her head down...

I can't believe the owner had the balls to walk in there with that abused animal and make excuses for it.

[Michele]

The one that absolutely broke my heart is the one with her head down...

I can't believe the owner had the balls to walk in there with that abused animal and make excuses for it.
i threw my lunch out when i saw those pictures, yesterday and today.....

[jdbpitbull]

Yup! Not a groomed dog at all!!! I have had poodles and you can't just wash them, they have to be clipped. Their hair is so fine it just mats overnight. I thought the 2nd pic was a terrier....

and it isnt just matts it is crap covered

[ChiaPit]

Any news on this dog? I mean I know she was cleaned and groomed, but did anyone call the health officials?

[Michele]

Any news on this dog? I mean I know she was cleaned and groomed, but did anyone call the health officials?
you read my mind girly. I was just going to post the same thing. And what about the woman's other dogs?

[jdbpitbull]

Any news on this dog? I mean I know she was cleaned and groomed, but did anyone call the health officials?

we have called human services ,houston ASPCA texas ASPCA and the houston poodle rescue and waiting to hear back from them and the other dogs she never brought them in but she said she had bathed those and also as soon as the chief of police gets back in town we will be making another complaint about nothing being done! and not to mention but she has brought these other dogs in before and they are short haired and they were urine stained were they are aparently being forced to sit in keenels or cages in there own sewage

[Michele]

we have called human services ,houston ASPCA texas ASPCA and the houston poodle rescue and waiting to hear back from them and the other dogs she never brought them in but she said she had bathed those and also as soon as the chief of police gets back in town we will be making another complaint about nothing being done! and not to mention but she has brought these other dogs in before and they are short haired and they were urine stained were they are aparently being forced to sit in keenels or cages in there own sewagei responded to your emails...:)...I forgot to mention something.....if the police don't do anything about this, you tell them that you will be calling the newspapers. Maybe they will get off their asses then. I don't usually like the media because they lie, but in this case, something really needs to be done.

[jdbpitbull]

i responded to your emails...:)...I forgot to mention something.....if the police don't do anything about this, you tell them that you will be calling the newspapers. Maybe they will get off their asses then. I don't usually like the media because they lie, but in this case, something really needs to be done.

i agree 100% and that is a good idea because our booster will love a story like this one!

[jdbpitbull]

i agree 100% and that is a good idea because our booster will love a story like this one!

for those of you who cannot see the pics PM me with your email address and i will mail them to you so that you can see the harsh condition this dog is in!