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Suki
03-16-2007, 05:53 PM
Boy, 13, held as alleged organizer of pit-bull fight

He's the first in L.A. to face felony dog fighting charges since a task force was formed in 2005.
By Richard Winton, Times Staff Writer
March 16, 2007



When two police officers came upon an organized dogfight in a trash-ridden alley in South Los Angeles earlier this week, they found two battered and bloody pit bulls.

But the officers were surprised when they saw who allegedly was organizing the dogfight: a 13-year-old boy.

He now has become the first person in Los Angeles to face felony dog fighting charges since a special task force was formed two years ago to crack down on animal cruelty, LAPD Lt. Paul Vernon said.

If convicted, the boy faces up to three years in the California Youth Authority, a term that is considered a relatively tough punishment for a juvenile.

Police are looking for several other young teens who fled when officers arrived.

"This was a serious example of animal cruelty," said LAPD Det. Susan Brumagin, who is part of the Los Angeles Animal Cruelty Task Force, which includes the LAPD, animal control officers and city prosecutors. "What makes it more tragic was that children were the organizers and spectators at this dogfight. The scariest part is that animal cruelty by children often morphs into human cruelty as adults."

No statistics are available about incidents of children involved in animal cruelty. But experts say that it has long been a problem and that they have seen links in the past between gang activity and dog fighting.

Probes of animal cruelty nationwide are finding more children involved in the blood sport as owners and spectators, particularly in areas with gang activity, investigators said.

"We are certainly seeing younger and younger people involved in animal cruelty," said Randall Lockwood, senior vice president of the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals' Anti-Cruelty Initiatives.

He said dog fighting involves three types: the professional dog fighting breeders, the good-old-boy amateurs, and street fighting, which tends to be the one that involves youngsters.

"Street fighting often involves the cruelest acts because the owners don't see the animal as an investment," Lockwood said. "Gangs have been associated with young people in dog fighting in Chicago and elsewhere."

LAPD officers arrested the teenager March 12 as he tried to flee with an injured pit bull on a chain near 113th and Grape streets. Investigators said a second youngster was trying to lift another injured pit bull over a wall. Animal Control officers rescued both animals.

The pit bulls, which had severe bites on their heads, necks and legs, were expected to recover after extensive medical treatment.

The 13-year-old — who was not identified because of his age — is being detained at Los Padrinos Juvenile Hall in Downey. The boy will be tried in Juvenile Court.

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richard.winton@latimes.com




sedaliapitbulls
03-16-2007, 05:56 PM
man lots of 13 year olds on here lately

Michele
03-16-2007, 05:58 PM
wow...just wow...where is this boy's mom and dad?...what are they teaching this child?

laurajean
03-16-2007, 06:38 PM
Obviously this child's Mom and Dad aren't "on the scene" so to speak. Gang activity is a big problem in cities, some large and some not so large, not only in California but elsewhere in our country.
It's a complex issue which I think requires some sort of concerted action by...who? Obviously the government is not capable of dealing with this problem, if they were the problem would have been ameliorated long ago. They certainly throw enough money at it now..or at least say they are using money to help get "kids off the streets." Whatever they are doing doesn't seem to be working since the problem is not going away.

chloesredboy
03-16-2007, 06:44 PM
Forget juvie,they should sentence the little bastard to community service/voulenteer work at an animal shelter and vet clinic so maybe he would learn something about animals and the effects of animal abuse.

miakoda
03-16-2007, 06:54 PM
This kid AND his parents should be held accountable.

Obviously this child's Mom and Dad aren't "on the scene" so to speak. Gang activity is a big problem in cities, some large and some not so large, not only in California but elsewhere in our country.
It's a complex issue which I think requires some sort of concerted action by...who? Obviously the government is not capable of dealing with this problem, if they were the problem would have been ameliorated long ago. They certainly throw enough money at it now..or at least say they are using money to help get "kids off the streets." Whatever they are doing doesn't seem to be working since the problem is not going away.
The parents. Parents need to step up to the plate & show some responsibility when it comes to their children. And if you don't want children, get fixed....pronto.

I don't think it's the government's place or fault to have to discipline people's kids. However, if they should have to, then the parents should be disciplined as well. (however, I do think that there is a cut-off for which parent's are totally responsible. for example, there is a huge difference b/n a 13 year old & a 16-17 yr old)

ABK
03-16-2007, 06:56 PM
Forget juvie,they should sentence the little bastard to community service/voulenteer work at an animal shelter and vet clinic so maybe he would learn something about animals and the effects of animal abuse.
Forget community service. I say get out the razor strap & beat his little ass raw.

Then fine his parents for all costs incurred.

lipshipsattitude
03-16-2007, 06:57 PM
It all goes back to irresponsible owners....in this case its the owner of that child, lol! Sorry, that was rude of me but really LA is the worst for stuff like this, kids really think its super cool and badass! Hopefully his will show all those lil smart asses that its not ok, it dosnt make you a bigger person. I say let em set a example, let one suffer....our dogs sure have

chloesredboy
03-16-2007, 07:08 PM
Forget community service. I say get out the razor strap & beat his little ass raw.

Then fine his parents for all costs incurred.LOL! that would also be acceptable!

pennsooner
03-16-2007, 07:41 PM
This is what happens when you get a number of multi-generational dysfunctional families living in close proximity. The pathologys are acted on much more easily because everyone reinforces the others pathology. Its not unlikely that "mom" was/is a drug addict and dad is long gone.



I thought the part about "street fighting" being the cruelest form of dogfighting was interesting and a bit unusual, in that the press got something right for once.

Phebes
03-16-2007, 08:20 PM
This is what happens when you get a number of multi-generational dysfunctional families living in close proximity. The pathologys are acted on much more easily because everyone reinforces the others pathology. Its not unlikely that "mom" was/is a drug addict and dad is long gone.

I thought the part about "street fighting" being the cruelest form of dogfighting was interesting and a bit unusual, in that the press got something right for once.
Not to mention that mom is probably no more than 26 or 28 years old.
Parenting is difficult when you are an adult but impossible when you are still a child. We have children having children without any knowlege because they were also raised by a child. Three and four generations of teenagers giving birth.
If they don't know how to treat each other how can they know how to treat a dog.

Michele
03-16-2007, 08:29 PM
I think this child should be made to work for a shelter as punishment. Let him see exactly what goes on and just how many of these animals get brought in that were abused. And I say let him experience the feeling of when a dog has to be PTS because of owner ingorance. It might be quite a humbling experience for this child.

Attila
03-17-2007, 01:18 AM
This kid AND his parents should be held accountable.


The parents. Parents need to step up to the plate & show some responsibility when it comes to their children. And if you don't want children, get fixed....pronto.

I don't think it's the government's place or fault to have to discipline people's kids. However, if they should have to, then the parents should be disciplined as well. (however, I do think that there is a cut-off for which parent's are totally responsible. for example, there is a huge difference b/n a 13 year old & a 16-17 yr old)
I totally agree.

Fruit doesn't fall far fromt he tree.