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[chloesredboy]

some one want to tell me what the terms hard and soft mouth mean?

[lipshipsattitude]

Well a lot of Labs are considered soft mouthed because of their bite. In the field they are required to retrieve the ducks but cant mangle them in their mouths because they'd be useless so you hear that term reffering to a lot of Labs.

In addition my dog would be considered a "hard mouth" when she plays and gets mouthy she isnt that gentle by nature, I've had to teach her gentle and dont condone rough housing when visitors come over. But you gotta see she isnt biting, she'd never actualyl bite, ya know the difference I'm talking about? The dog I babysat yesterday had the softest mouth I'd felt in a long while

[BoiBoi]

hard mouth describes a dog that has a devistating mouth that can cause severe damage to another animal in short order, while soft mouth describes a dog that can suck on another animals ear for a long period of time and cause hardly any damage. It has been said that some bloodlines throw hard mouthed dogs, while others throw soft mouth dogs, but it all depends on the dog. A good quote i heard was a dog bites hard if he wants to, i don't believe for one minute that a so called soft mouth dog doesn't have the ability to bite hard and destroy

[14rock]

Some dogs are not genetically able to bite hard. Some are, and aren't willing. Some are just freaks.

[ABK]

OK, please forgive me of my ignorance here, but how can a dog be genetically unable to bite hard? Don't all dogs have the same jaw structure?

[The Watcher]

14 means they have the abilty to bite hard but dont want too. In other words, some dogs just bite hard cuz they want to.

[ABK]

So in short, all have the same ability & mechanism, but not all of them have the same gumption?

[chinasmom]

Interesting... I have dogs that fit in both catagories.

[The Watcher]

all are not genitically able to bite harder, some are. all do not have the same mechanism but all have the same function.
no dogs lock their jaws.
some dogs just have the drive to bite real freakin hard, while their siblings might not.

[lipshipsattitude]

It can be bred into a dog either way.....or come naturally. Duck hunting Labs are bred to have soft mouths, most game pit bulls are bred to be hard mouthed, ot just depends on what your breeding for. Just like how some humans are naturally easier to build muscle, sure we can all get buff but some bodies build up easier

[Old Timer]

some one want to tell me what the terms hard and soft mouth mean?well a hard mouth means just that,the dog has a mouth that can bite down hard.i have had dogs over the years that broke legs like tooth picks thats a hard mouthed dog and a rareity.then when it comes to soft mouthed that meant the dog didn't bite hard.this is yet another reason why you would test your stock before putting in all the time to condtion the animal.a soft mouth dog would fight and even be game but he might not ever break the skin on his opponet and he mght not be able to get a hold or he might get a hold and the other dog would be able to shake out pretty easy,i have had my share of these as well over the years.like 14 rock said it is all in the genes the dog gets technially all dogs have the same jaw make up but some get the gene that makes them bite hard some have it some don't and some are lazy.myself if a dog had a soft mouth it was culled to me it was a waste of time and it was using up space and my time and energy that i could focous on another dog that might be more promising.as a rule most dogs are middle of the road they ain't hard but they ain't soft either,they get good firm holds and have enough bite to be pretty fair in the pit and hold there own but it is always better to try and strive for that hard mouth.

[Stillwater]

OK, please forgive me of my ignorance here, but how can a dog be genetically unable to bite hard? Don't all dogs have the same jaw structure?
The same way a man is genetically unable to run the 40yd dash in 4 secs and others can.
They have the same skeletal structure, but due to genetics, one is capable of things others aren't.

[bakerbt]

OK, please forgive me of my ignorance here, but how can a dog be genetically unable to bite hard? Don't all dogs have the same jaw structure?Compare it to boxers or mma fighters. Some have the natural ability to knock people out. Some have more skills and would love to knock their opponent out but cannot because of genetics. Some people will have the will and train just as hard as their opponent, but their matches always go to decisions because they just cannot hit that hard.

[Pipbull]

Compare it to boxers or mma fighters. Some have the natural ability to knock people out. Some have more skills and would love to knock their opponent out but cannot because of genetics. Some people will have the will and train just as hard as their opponent, but their matches always go to decisions because they just cannot hit that hard.
I don't get that, it seems like something training and conditioning would be in charge of, if all dogs are built the same.

[ghost 1]

well a hard mouth means just that,the dog has a mouth that can bite down hard.i have had dogs over the years that broke legs like tooth picks thats a hard mouthed dog and a rareity.then when it comes to soft mouthed that meant the dog didn't bite hard.this is yet another reason why you would test your stock before putting in all the time to condtion the animal.a soft mouth dog would fight and even be game but he might not ever break the skin on his opponet and he mght not be able to get a hold or he might get a hold and the other dog would be able to shake out pretty easy,i have had my share of these as well over the years.like 14 rock said it is all in the genes the dog gets technially all dogs have the same jaw make up but some get the gene that makes them bite hard some have it some don't and some are lazy.myself if a dog had a soft mouth it was culled to me it was a waste of time and it was using up space and my time and energy that i could focous on another dog that might be more promising.as a rule most dogs are middle of the road they ain't hard but they ain't soft either,they get good firm holds and have enough bite to be pretty fair in the pit and hold there own but it is always better to try and strive for that hard mouth.
if they ever saw a hard mouth break a leg or shoulder they would know what a hard mouth was,,,,,

is a true rarity((( ol timer knows his stuff))));)

[ghost 1]

I don't get that, it seems like something training and conditioning would be in charge of, if all dogs are built the same.

not hardly,,, some are just blessed with talent and some are not

[The Watcher]

examples;
hardmouth: CH. "Bad Rosemary."
softmouth: CH. "Redboy."

[Scratch & Sniff]

I know this is bringing up an old thread lol...
but rather than start a new one I will ask in here:

I see people saying the jaw structure is the same, it's a matter of if the dog WANTS to bite hard or not... which I do agree with- however some dogs have stronger/bigger jaws, yes? Like the more square jaws/head compared to the more narrow jaws/head. Shouldn't that play a role in it?

[yellaman420]

Nope, the hard biters bite hard because they wanted to. Same with the soft biters. Look at pics of both types. Youll see head shapes all over the place. The muscle attachments of the zygomatic arch and tempora fossa provide the necessary leverage and you can measure to see if your dog should (conformationally) bite hard, But its all up to the dog. Check out historical pics of hard biters and youll see what I mean. Zebo (IMO) had one of the best lookin head pieces on him and bit that way, as I hear it told.

[Scratch & Sniff]

Nope, the hard biters bite hard because they wanted to. Same with the soft biters. Look at pics of both types. Youll see head shapes all over the place. The muscle attachments of the zygomatic arch and tempora fossa provide the necessary leverage and you can measure to see if your dog should (conformationally) bite hard, But its all up to the dog. Check out historical pics of hard biters and youll see what I mean. Zebo (IMO) had one of the best lookin head pieces on him and bit that way, as I hear it told.^I seeeeeeee, good post thank you!

[misterdogman]

Some dogs are not genetically able to bite hard. Some are, and aren't willing. Some are just freaks.LOL you make me laugh now that you have seen a true freak. Yes your right though some can and dont wanna, some cant because they aint got it, and some just cant be explained and are freaks of nature chomping thru whatever.

[Pipbull]

The muscle attachments of the zygomatic arch and tempora fossa provide the necessary leverage and you can measure to see if your dog should (conformationally) bite hard, But its all up to the dog.
Good info.

[texas_dogger]

are you serious?