What's your opinion about nuttering ?

[koening]

i just whant to know how you feel about nuttering your dog. does it affect his character in a major way ? i know that they stop beeing so protective and territorial . so i hope you can give me more info . would you nutter your dogs ?

[lipshipsattitude]

Nueter? I think that if the dog dosnt have a exceptional pedigree then its best for he breed as a whole to get him neutered. There are just too amny watered down pit bull as it is and it really stinks when people breed for selfish reasons like "I love my dog and wanna see her babies", ha ha. Here is soem great info on the pros and cons......

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/breeding.htm


http://www.hsus.org/pets/pet_care/why_you_should_spay_or_neuter_your_pet.html

[Suki]

Definitly, if you are not going to breed your dog, then imo, neutering is a VERY wise decision. An unaltered dog will have a greater tendency to fight, roam, and act aggressively, due to its desire to want to mate. Neutering a dog will help to free him of these natural tendencies, resulting, imo, in a dog that's calmer, and is easier and better apt to get along with other anaimals as well.

and no, neutering a dog will not make them lazy, fat, or even more apt to gain weight. keep up with a good exercise regiment and decent kibble, and you're good to go! :)

not to mention, it will help, in the long run, by not adding any more unnecessary puppies into the world, and has health benefits.

[LegendsMami]

Would I neuter my dog?

No Legend is not nuetered. And I will not neuter him. No I don't plan to breed him and there will not be any "accidental" breedings. I take the necessary precautions to make sure he does not get out of the yard. Growing up my dad had up to 5 APBTs housed inside w/ no "accidental" breedings. All but 2 were bred(together, planned) one time and it was a private breeding.
I think not neutering is a personal choice...BUT only if your up for the added precautions! Neutering does reduce the chances of aggression some and marking and humping...But there's some nuetered dogs that do those things much more then a non-neutered dog.
When I had Gemyni I absolutely made her appointment to be spayed. But since I rehomed her(for a home better suited for her) all her new owners have to do is take her to the appt. Everything's already paid for. They also have a non-neutered male and were happy Gem already has an appointment to be spayed!

[Wayne]

I do not like the idea of nuttering.I believe people need to be more responsible for there pets.Nuttering is a form of tourcher to me because some people do not know how cut there dogs food so the dog ends up looking like a coffee table.

[bahamutt99]

Neutering shouldn't affect a dog's temperament if he is already mature. It may not even affect his sex drive; I've seen neutered males in mating ties with females. I think if somebody isn't going to breed their dog, the easiest course might be to neuter. That said, I lived with an adult male that never got neutered. If you are good at keeping your dog contained and under control, there's no reason he can't keep his equipment. They can be a total pain in the rear when there are sexy girls nearby, but if you want to live with that, its your prerogative. LOL.

[CrazyK9]

With male dogs it isn't as much of an issue IMO, but if you have a female that you don't plan to breed, I would suggest getting her spayed. If the average person asked about neutering/spaying their dog, I would say, without a doubt, do it! Most people are too irresponsible to prevent any accidental breedings.

Bottom line is if you can't be 100% responsible for your dogs, then get them altered. If you can handle keeping your dogs from reproducing, then go ahead and leave them intact if you want.

[miakoda]

I've seen neutered males in mating ties with females Too bad you weren't here when my husband & I saw Wrigley going to town on Miakoda. Thank God he's neutered as I wouldn't have known what to do with the ugly mutts that would've been produced from that (Shar Pei/Cane Corso/APBT..........UGH!).

However, we laughed at the whole thing until we were blue in the face. :D

Also, having to have had the pleasure of removing a uterus at least 10 times the normal size, cutting it open, & seeing the green pus go everywhere & watch the bitch die anyway, I will always spay a female that is not breedworthy or breedable. As for the males, my neighbor's 4 year Beagle has testicular cancer & it has spread into his colon. Kinda sucks as a $50 neuter would've prevented it. Testicluar cancer exists & prostate problems have become very common.

I have absolutely NO problem about spaying & neutering dogs that a) are mutts & b) are not breedworthy. To me, it's not about responsibility, it's about their health.

[bahamutt99]

Too bad you weren't here when my husband & I saw Wrigley going to town on Miakoda. Thank God he's neutered as I wouldn't have known what to do with the ugly mutts that would've been produced from that (Shar Pei/Cane Corso/APBT..........UGH!).

However, we laughed at the whole thing until we were blue in the face. :D
LOL! I've heard other people say that their neutered males have a hell of a good time when there are girls in heat around. I remember the first time I saw that crap, I didn't think it was funny. It was with my neighbors' toy poodles that were always getting out and were generally nasty little dogs. I was thinking at the time how lovely it was going to be living next door to them with yet more poodles on the way. Thankfully they got Dink (or whatever his name was) neutered.

[chloesredboy]

joe is neutered and he is not fat or lazy,and he still acts like a boy dog ,lifts his leg to pee,and still loves the ladies!for every reason not to neuter there are ten better reasons you should do it.Dont let anyone tell you the B.S that its torture or that it will mess up your dog,the fact is if you dont plan to breed there is really no reason you shouldnt do it.I also think its an even better idea with pit-bulls as altered males are much less likley to get stolen!

[Texasbulldogs]

http://www.acc-d.org/2006%20Symposium%20Docs/Session%20I.pdf (http://www.acc-d.org/2006%20Symposium%20Docs/Session%20I.pdf)

[CynthiaATL]

Scrappy is Nuetered. He is not fat or lazy by any means. Yes I agree with Mia that there are medical issues that can be avoided if you spay/nueter a animal. Such as pyrometra, and cancer. Also some males are cryptorchid (when 1 or both testicles have not descended) which can result in cancer later on..

Alot of breeders neuter and spay there animals after they get done showing/breeding their animals.

I see it at work when you talk to a man about neutering they act like THEY are the ones getting neutered. Also another excuse I hear is I want him to get some before I nueter. I tell them that they are personalizing this too much!

I think that if they are not shown or bred then there is no reason for them to be left intact. It is much healthier in the long run.

[Verderben]

With a male I think it is pointless. If you are responsible enough to contain your dog properly and not have any accidental breedings then no don't neuter him. IMO there isnt any benefits except your dog can't have pups. It will not lower his aggression levels, It wont make him not roam if he wants to roam. It might prevent testicular cancer but has been found to highten the risk of other cancers. Personally I wouldnt cut my dogs legs or tail off just because later in life it MIGHT develop cancer there. ::: putting flame suit on now :::

[Attila]

I think any man that makes a kid that it and the mother has to live off of welfare because that man is a lump of shit should be denuttered.


But I don't alter dogs. At least not pure breed ones. Mutts and currs you should cut. As well as dogs that don't get worked or shown.

[laurajean]

I too have noticed that young males(human) seem to take neutering (of male dogs) a little too personally. Just neuter the dogs, don't take it personally. If the dog is not a top notch show dog, just your pet, get it neutered.
Owners of intact male dogs need to take some responsibility for all the unwanted puppies produced in the world. Pit bulls are already escape artists. Why not neuter the males and then they won't be out roaming and breeding every mutt female in heat. It will be much easier to contain your male if he is neutered.
Of course , if one is like Atilla and able to contain one's dogs then leave them intact, but remember that it is a big responsibility of YOURS to keep your dogs from reproducing. And there are health benefits to spay/neuter and financial benefits...(lower vet bills and lower license costs).

[Michele]

IMO, if you are not going to breed, then do it. As much as owners say that they are careful and it could never happen to me, sometimes accidents happen.

[Michele]

I wouldnt cut my dogs legs or tail off just because later in life it MIGHT develop cancer there. ::
IMO, I dont think this is a good comparison at all. Neutering will prevent more pups from coming into this world, only to possibly be PTS because of overcrowding in shelters, among other things.

I just feel that no matter how much someone says that it could never happen, shit does happen. Better to be safe than sorry.

[jiu-pitsu]

I admit I was pretty naive about all that is pitbulls when I got my male of course I'd read about dog agression and all that and when I started taking him to his obedience classes at about 8 wks it was always "when are you going to neuter, do you have an appointment yet." very pushy. But being I was'nt going to breed and the positive things I had heard about fixing him I went ahead and did it at about 5mo. old. Its hard to say w/o having raised an intact male to compare but he has been extreemly stable w/ other dogs and hasn't hindered his drive at all. Overall I dont see any good traits that are missing from doing this. One happy pitbull. Also I think if the're not papered don't breed and you should neuter/spay them because as we know these dogs are already overpopulated and that just leads to more problems for us.

[Zane-insane]

Personally i refuse to get my male clipped.Its been a fight with me and my girlfreind ever since weve had him.About a year and a couple months.EVERY other male dog ive had before my pit that got clipped.....just wasnt the same.Say what you want, but i seen it, ive lived it.They change....atleast as far as labs and shepards go.They dont want to play as much, and they do get fat.Besides....i have a purebred papered dog with a ped.Im not going to get him cut, that would have defeated the whole purpose of spending the extra 300 dollars to get him papered.

[ABK]

I had two of my male pit bulls neutered at the age of 3 years old & it didn't affect either one of them one bit. They did not get fat, nor did it affect their dog drive. The only thing it affected was their sex drive.

I look at it like this: if you aren't going to show/pull have him fixed. A lot of ppl say "Oh, I'll just keep a handle on him" but consider this:

- Your intact male pit bull smells a female in heat, gets loose (& we all know no one is excempt from accidents) & he gets hit by a car on his way down there.

- Your intact male pit bull smells a female in heat & goes to woo this lady. He meets another male in the yard & gets into a fight.

- Your intact male pit bull smells a female in heat & goes to woo this lady. The female's owner finds him in the yard & shoots him.

- Your intact male pit bull smells a female in heat, gets loose & gets picked up by AC only to be PTS.

All these are very real scenarios that could be prevented if the dog was simply neutered.

Or let's say you DO contain your male & he doesn't get loose. But a male dog can smell a female in heat up to 3 miles away. Since he cannot get to them, he cannot relieve his urges & ends up feeling like he's in a state of perpetual blue balls. Yeah, that's what I want for my dog! :rolleyes:

No disrespect to any of the men here, but I think men personalize this too much. Neutering is one of best thing you can do for your dog & if you are that insecure in your manhood that your dog has to have his balls to make you feel more like a man, you need to go find a therapist.

lmao ...

[Zane-insane]

Im not any less of a man, weather my dog has ballz or not.Its my personal preferance....to each their own.

[pennsooner]

I intend to show my next dog so he'll be intact till I'm done with that and then............snip snip. Once they've matured I prefer less hassle. I'm not too fond of pediatric spay/neuter however so I'll wait till after sexual maturity. My current dog is neutered.

[bahamutt99]

All these are very real scenarios that could be prevented if the dog was simply neutered.
I thought of something else that is also a possibility. (Not even touching on the numerous other things that can happen to a wandering dog.) Say the male ties up with the female and she's carrying something. It could be something as serious as brucellosis or as mild-but-irritating as fleas, Either way, its not something you want your dog to get. Not to mention that if he goes onto another person's property and breeds their female, you can be held legally liable for the costs of whelping and raising the litter, or paying for a spay/abort or whatnot.

[ABK]

zane: That's what they all say! lamo ... But seriously, if you're not going to show/pull, why have him intact? Don't you care about the safety & health of your dog? Or is there some other underlying reason he has to have his "ballz....?"

Baha: I had not thought of that. What if the male brings home brucellosis? Humans can catch that, esp. kids! And isn't there a strain of babasia that is sexually transmitted as well? I know some forms of babasia are able to be transmitted to humans too!

(*shudders*)

[miakoda]

Personally i refuse to get my male clipped.Its been a fight with me and my girlfreind ever since weve had him.About a year and a couple months.EVERY other male dog ive had before my pit that got clipped.....just wasnt the same.Say what you want, but i seen it, ive lived it.They change....atleast as far as labs and shepards go.They dont want to play as much, and they do get fat.Besides....i have a purebred papered dog with a ped.Im not going to get him cut, that would have defeated the whole purpose of spending the extra 300 dollars to get him papered.
You've had 1 dog that got neutered & now you're an expert in behavioral & physical changes in neutered dogs?

Dogs get fat because their owners over feed them. Period. If you don't give the food to the dog, then he can't eat it, thus he can't get fat. It's as simple as that. In some dogs, there has been shown a very very very slight metabolic change (but metabolism changes constantly throughout life so IMO that's not a good arguement), but if you notice your dog is starting to gain weight, cut back on the food. It's not hard.

As for getting him "papered", I'm guessing you have big plans to breed him & sell some pups. Because papers don't mean shit otherwise & even then they are only as good as that individual dog. I've neutered dogs that have probably had a prettier pedigree than yours. Hell, I've got a spayed bitch from Mr. B. And the point is?

[miakoda]

I intend to show my next dog so he'll be intact till I'm done with that and then............snip snip. Once they've matured I prefer less hassle. I'm not too fond of pediatric spay/neuter however so I'll wait till after sexual maturity. My current dog is neutered.
A new tech at the clinic has an absolutely dropdead gorgeous English Pointer that is not only an AKC Ch. but is also an accomplished bird dog (I'm unsure as to how their point system goes). And guess what? She just neutered him. Many couldn't believe she did it, but like she said, "There are no quality Pointers anywhere close in this region & she's not going to breed her dog to some subpar or byb bitch all so that owner can make a profit off of her dog."

To some people, status isn't everything (wow....what a concept)

[chloesredboy]

some one said that neutering has actually caused heath problems?Ive only been a tech for year so i really am not 100% sure but other than maybe a minor infection from incisions i cant think of a single health problem that is caused from a dog being neutered,as with any medical procedure there is always a chance something bad could happen,evev simple vaccines can cuase reactions in some animals,but to say that a problem is caused directly by a dog being neutered?I dont think so Mia,maybe you could help me out on this one!

[ABK]

I wouldn't say neutering itself causes any health problems. There may be complications in procedure or the aftercare, but the chances of that are so slight they are not even a real consideration.

[chloesredboy]

I wouldn't say neutering itself causes any health problems. There may be complications in procedure or the aftercare, but the chances of that are so slight they are not even a real consideration.someone said in another post that it is known to heighten the risk of other types of cancer,Ive NEVER heard that.

[ABK]

Me either. :confused:

[chloesredboy]

Me either. :confused:Yeah its load but im going to say this to whoever wrote it-If you dont believe in altering that is fine as it is your decision and no one elses.However i would like to ask that you not make up crazy lies to prove your point it ,if you have valid reasons that you believe dogs shouldnt be neutered please put them up so people can see both sides of the argument ,but dont strart pulling B.S out your ass to scare people.

[bahamutt99]

Early neutering has its drawbacks, but waiting until a dog is physically mature shouldn't negatively impact them.

[ABK]

OK this is just me but ... I think s/n is great. All my male cats (3) are neutered & every dog we aren't showing or pulling with is s/n.

It is better for them physically by cutting down on things like cancer & it better for them mentally by eliminating sexual frustration. Overall IMO it improves their quality of life & may even improve their length of life.

If you knew of a procedure that could lengthen your pet's life & make what life they do have better, why not do it?

For those of you who don't want to do it, that is your perogative. But I care too much for my animals NOT to.

[simms]

IMO ya'll should spay and nueter esp if the dog is not to standard or kept as a pet. Most ya'll dont know what a highly intense drivin dog is anywho.....let alone know how to deal with one.

curs breeding curs!

[simms]

OK this is just me but ... I think s/n is great. All my male cats (3) are neutered & every dog we aren't showing or pulling with is s/n.

It is better for them physically by cutting down on things like cancer & it better for them mentally by eliminating sexual frustration. Overall IMO it improves their quality of life & may even improve their length of life.

If you knew of a procedure that could lengthen your pet's life & make what life they do have better, why not do it?

For those of you who don't want to do it, that is your perogative. But I care too much for my animals NOT to.
good for you!

[simms]

I suppose this is why I dont deal with the public and the APBT. If
I happen to have a cat or dog that is availible for a pet home....it is spayed or nueterd.

In my oppinion if your not part of the solution on this issue you are part of the problem.

I say we ship these unwanted cats and dogs to other countrys so we can atleast feed those that cant feed them selves. Ya think that would get folks attention?

[chloesredboy]

I suppose this is why I dont deal with the public and the APBT. If
I happen to have a cat or dog that is availible for a pet home....it is spayed or nueterd.

In my oppinion if your not part of the solution on this issue you are part of the problem.

I say we ship these unwanted cats and dogs to other countrys so we can atleast feed those that cant feed them selves. Ya think that would get folks attention?are you talking about people eating cats and dogs?eewww!

[simms]

are you talking about people eating cats and dogs?eewww!
Yes I am.

These animals are dieing in the shelter anyway. Peapole want to maintain the right to spay or nueter. Might be a solution.... this is a glunteness country. To someone that is litterly starving, they would be thankfull to eat tom and fluffy...

[chloesredboy]

Yes I am.

These animals are dieing in the shelter anyway. Peapole want to maintain the right to spay or nueter. Might be a solution.... this is a glunteness country. To someone that is litterly starving, they would be thankfull to eat tom and fluffy...oh that is so gross,but i guess if you can kill two birds with one stone.....lol!

[CynthiaATL]

Personally i refuse to get my male clipped.Its been a fight with me and my girlfreind ever since weve had him.About a year and a couple months.EVERY other male dog ive had before my pit that got clipped.....just wasnt the same.Say what you want, but i seen it, ive lived it.They change....atleast as far as labs and shepards go.They dont want to play as much, and they do get fat.Besides....i have a purebred papered dog with a ped.Im not going to get him cut, that would have defeated the whole purpose of spending the extra 300 dollars to get him papered.
Shoot I was hoping it would slow Scrappy down! LOL But it did not. I waited till he was 1 to do it. And as you can see in my signature he is not fat by anymeans.


So I do not believe that all Spay/nuetered animals get fat and lazy. At work I see numerous dogs on a daily basis and I would say about 90% do not gain weight JUST because they were fixed. There are other factors such as treats, and over feeding that contributes to gaining weight. Also I think that the owner should take some responsibilty as to an animal being over weight. Take you dogs on a walk. Exercise your animals. Also measure the food. I hear it at work I ask how much are you feeding. The client says oh a cup a day. Then I find out by a cup they mean a McDonalds 32oz cup not a measuring cup.

As far as causing cancer BECAUSE your animal was neutering I do not believe that. And preventative care is the best way to go. Thats why we vaccinate our animals. Give them heartworm preventative. And complications can occur during surgery. Thats why it is best to get an IV cath (to have access to a vein) and to give fluids during surgery. And also get a pre-anesthetic profile done to see if thier body can metabolize the anesthesia.

But still if accidental breeding do not occur then how do we have this overpopulation of animals. And we all know that APBT are exscape artists.

[simms]

Shoot I was hoping it would slow Scrappy down! LOL But it did not. I waited till he was 1 to do it. And as you can see in my signature he is not fat by anymeans.


So I do not believe that all Spay/nuetered animals get fat and lazy. At work I see numerous dogs on a daily basis and I would say about 90% do not gain weight JUST because they were fixed. There are other factors such as treats, and over feeding that contributes to gaining weight. Also I think that the owner should take some responsibilty as to an animal being over weight. Take you dogs on a walk. Exercise your animals. Also measure the food. I hear it at work I ask how much are you feeding. The client says oh a cup a day. Then I find out by a cup they mean a McDonalds 32oz cup not a measuring cup.

As far as causing cancer BECAUSE your animal was neutering I do not believe that. And preventative care is the best way to go. Thats why we vaccinate our animals. Give them heartworm preventative. And complications can occur during surgery. Thats why it is best to get an IV cath (to have access to a vein) and to give fluids during surgery. And also get a pre-anesthetic profile done to see if thier body can metabolize the anesthesia.

But still if accidental breeding do not occur then how do we have this overpopulation of animals. And we all know that APBT are exscape artists.
Spaying or nuetering has little to do with an animal becoming obeese or lazy....chances are they were on thier way to that physical state to begin with. It's All owner neglagence....killing them with kindness, not enough tough love.

[CynthiaATL]

Spaying or nuetering has little to do with an animal becoming obeese or lazy....chances are they were on thier way to that physical state to begin with. It's All owner neglagence....killing them with kindness, not enough tough love.
I completely agree. And 9 times out of 10 it is the owners fault that thier animal is over weight. And ther are a few cases that it is not and that is due to medical conditions ie.... thyroid

[chloesredboy]

I completely agree. And 9 times out of 10 it is the owners fault that thier animal is over weight. And ther are a few cases that it is not and that is due to medical conditions ie.... thyroidthat dog is gorgeous,i love the contrast between his/her colors.

[ABK]

I think so too!

[CrazyK9]

Um, did anyone read what Texas posted?! That's your proof right there about the procedure's effect on a pet's health. I'm sure there are factors unaccounted for that affect the results but overall the outcome is pretty clear.

I had never really thought about it until now, but my dog was spayed before she was 1 year. She has a chronic vaginal infection that just won't clear up, despite having her on anti-biotics and applying external ointments. This has caused her to have a fever very often so now she isn't UTD on shots.

My thoughts are we need to find a safer/healthier way of controling the over-population problem.
For now, I am in no way saying that people shouldn't spay and neuter! Like I said before, most people can't handle the responsibility of keeping their pets from reproducing.

[Verderben]

Yeah its load but im going to say this to whoever wrote it-If you dont believe in altering that is fine as it is your decision and no one elses.However i would like to ask that you not make up crazy lies to prove your point it ,if you have valid reasons that you believe dogs shouldnt be neutered please put them up so people can see both sides of the argument ,but dont strart pulling B.S out your ass to scare people.Maybe you should do some research other than the AR bullshit before you call someone a liar:

http://www.littleriverlabs.com/neuter.htm

http://www.caninesports.com/SpayNeuter.html

[chloesredboy]

Um, did anyone read what Texas posted?! That's your proof right there about the procedure's effect on a pet's health. I'm sure there are factors unaccounted for that affect the results but overall the outcome is pretty clear.

I had never really thought about it until now, but my dog was spayed before she was 1 year. She has a chronic vaginal infection that just won't clear up, despite having her on anti-biotics and applying external ointments. This has caused her to have a fever very often so now she isn't UTD on shots.

My thoughts are we need to find a safer/healthier way of controling the over-population problem.
For now, I am in no way saying that people shouldn't spay and neuter! Like I said before, most people can't handle the responsibility of keeping their pets from reproducing.most of those kind of problems develop from doing it too early and until they make it a law that you have to pass inteligence tests and get a license to own a pet spay/neuter is the saffest most effective way to control the problem.

[CrazyK9]

Simms, its funny you should mention feeding poor countries our euthanized pets. That was also a topic debated at another board I post at...
http://dogoforum.com/tempforum/YaBB.pl?num=1156429407 (http://dogoforum.com/tempforum/YaBB.pl?num=1156429407)

[chloesredboy]

Maybe you should do some research other than the AR bullshit before you call someone a liar:

http://www.littleriverlabs.com/neuter.htm

http://www.caninesports.com/SpayNeuter.htmlok liar is wrong but maybe you should do some reasearch before yous tart putting theories up as facts,all those studies are just that, studies!they dont prove shit.and unless you are a licensed proffessional you shouldnt really be advising people on healthcare.

[Verderben]

My thoughts are we need to find a safer/healthier way of controling the over-population problem.
For now, I am in no way saying that people shouldn't spay and neuter! Like I said before, most people can't handle the responsibility of keeping their pets from reproducing. I agree with ya on that

[Verderben]

ok liar is wrong but maybe you should do some reasearch before yous tart putting theories up as facts,all those studies are just that, studies!they dont prove shit.and unless you are a licensed proffessional you shouldnt really be advising people on healthcare.How do you get info without doing studies? The studies do prove ALOT. And I never gave anyone healthcare advise I stated my opinion and what I have read on numerous other sites besides those two. Maybe you should take your OWN advice about not giving healthcare advice.

[chloesredboy]

ok liar is wrong but maybe you should do some reasearch before yous tart putting theories up as facts,all those studies are just that, studies!they dont prove shit.and unless you are a licensed proffessional you shouldnt really be advising people on healthcare.Aso ANY medical procedure can have drawbacks/side effects.Dogs migh be allergic to something in a vaccine ,should we suggest everyone stop vaccinating their pets?

[Verderben]

Aso ANY medical procedure can have drawbacks/side effects.Dogs migh be allergic to something in a vaccine ,should we suggest everyone stop vaccinating their pets?That is a whole other topic but It has been found vaccines are more harmful than helpfull. I have to run somewhere but will be back in about an hour

[chloesredboy]

actually ,i went to school for three years and earned a license so that i can give medical advice about animals.And im not looking down on anyone for not neutering thats your decision,I just for the life of me cant understand why you would try to discourage someone else from doing it.

[chloesredboy]

That is a whole other topic but It has been found vaccines are more harmful than helpfull. I have to run somewhere but will be back in about an hourwhatever, youre completly right.

[simms]

Um, did anyone read what Texas posted?! That's your proof right there about the procedure's effect on a pet's health. I'm sure there are factors unaccounted for that affect the results but overall the outcome is pretty clear.

I had never really thought about it until now, but my dog was spayed before she was 1 year. She has a chronic vaginal infection that just won't clear up, despite having her on anti-biotics and applying external ointments. This has caused her to have a fever very often so now she isn't UTD on shots.

My thoughts are we need to find a safer/healthier way of controling the over-population problem.
For now, I am in no way saying that people shouldn't spay and neuter! Like I said before, most people can't handle the responsibility of keeping their pets from reproducing.
I read it....Spaying and nuetering is the most effective way to help control the pet population outside of culling.

[CynthiaATL]

that dog is gorgeous,i love the contrast between his/her colors.Thank you. He is my heart. I love Mike but Scrappy is my baby! And I did neuter him at 1 yr old. I wanted to wait till he matured a little. But it in no way slowed him down. He is not overweight or lazy. Shoot I would have loved for it to have calmed him down a little.

Yes I do believe there can be complications during surgery. Last week at work a 12wk old APBT Puppy died on the table waking up from anesthesia. She died! But we were able to revive her Epi to the heart and all. It was So scary! But that was after an elective surgery. Ear Cropping. And her labwork was normal. We did an ultrasound of her heart and it was normal. So complications can occcur in a healthy pet during and waking up from anesthesia.

But I still do believe in spay/neutering animals and pets that you are either not breeding or showing. But hey that is JMO. But when you have worked at the Human Society and see perfectly healthy animals being PTS. Or you have worked in a Animal Hospital and see Mammory cancer, pyrometra, testicular cancer and so forth. And alot of people do not treat cancer. And with pyrometra it can cost into the thousands to spay and treat it. When it would have only cost around $150 if done under normal cirumstances.

Also spaying a dog before her first heat is the best way to significantly reduce the chance your dog will develop breast cancer. The risk of malignant mammary tumors in dogs spayed prior to their first heat is 0.05%. It is 8% for dog spayed after one heat, and 26% in dogs spayed after their second heat.

No Testicular Tumors. There are several different tumor types, both benign and malignant, that grow within the testicles. As with most cancers, these usually are not noted until the animal reaches 5 or more years of age. Therefore, these would not be a problem in those individuals neutered at the recommended age.

Fewer Perianal Tumors. There are tumors whose growth is stimulated by testosterone. These occur near the anus and are called perianal adenomas (benign) or perianal adenocarcinomas (malignant). These usually do not occur until the dog is at least 7 years old. They have to be surgicaly removed and need to be caught early to prevent it comming back. It is very rare in those animals neutered at 7 to 8 months old.
Fewer Prostate Problems. The most common medical problems eliminated in dogs neutered at an early age are those involving the prostate. Over 80% of all unneutered male dogs develop prostate disease. Prostate conditions such as benign enlargement, cysts, and infection are all related to the presence of testosterone.

So I do believe that the benefits out weigh the risks. But again thats JMO.


That is a whole other topic but It has been found vaccines are more harmful than helpfull. I have to run somewhere but will be back in about an hourI agree that over vaccinating animals can cause problems. That is why most Veterinarians and Veterinary Colleges are going to the 3 yr DA2PPV. But again IMO after seing numerous cases of Parvo and a outbreak of distemper at the humane society I worked at. Vaccines do also have thier advantages as well.

[Zane-insane]

Personal preferance Miakoda...and ive had 6 dogs that got clipped.So id say i know a little more than the average joe on the subject.If you would have read my post and seen that i stated GSD's as well as labs that would have been 2 different breeds.So either you cant count or you just dont read entire posts.

As far as your dogs having a "prettier ped" than mine, and still had them clipped good job man, hope it was worth it, and once again ill say it...... TO EACH THEIR OWN!

[Attila]

I too have noticed that young males(human) seem to take neutering (of male dogs) a little too personally. Just neuter the dogs, don't take it personally. If the dog is not a top notch show dog, just your pet, get it neutered.
Owners of intact male dogs need to take some responsibility for all the unwanted puppies produced in the world. Pit bulls are already escape artists. Why not neuter the males and then they won't be out roaming and breeding every mutt female in heat. It will be much easier to contain your male if he is neutered.
Of course , if one is like Atilla and able to contain one's dogs then leave them intact, but remember that it is a big responsibility of YOURS to keep your dogs from reproducing. And there are health benefits to spay/neuter and financial benefits...(lower vet bills and lower license costs).
As easy as it is to keep my bitches in heat up, Lower vet bills isn't worth the hassle. A service call cost me the same here. I can't obviously hall all my animals into a vet so the vet comes here. There isn't a license for dogs where I live. in the city yes out here no. But even that wouldn't be of enough money saved for me to care. A vet once told me that spay/neuter reduces the chance of reproductive organ cancer.
No shit. If you don't have them you can't have cancer in them. But it wasn't eleminates the chance of cancer in those area's it was significantly reduces. Therefore there is a chance that they may get cancer in those regions. Only thing I ever seen out of it was another fat dog. That was still as aggressive as it once was, still will roam, still will hump, bark all day and so on as it was before. If you do it young enough you can have a squatting male. Oh Joy! In all my years I have never had a unplanned litter. No accedental breedings. It isn't hard to prevent. Watch your dogs, put the bitch up when she is in heat. It isn't that dang hard. If a person is too stupid or lazy to do this then they don't need pets but for sure don't need unfixed pets.

[koening]

thanks for all the asnwers. :) i love this forum :) . i have not yet nutered my dog, because i konw i can handle him, and i can make sure he will not mate with any female. although, i wanted to know the posititv and negative things that happen after a procedure like that. i was thinking of nutering him because of the laws in my country, but i'm glad i don't have to do this now because i keep him as a guard dog on a private property. althougt, i'm really glad i know now that nuttering at the right age doesn't cause any mental or physical problems, and will not change his behavior. thanks again !

[Sid Finster]

Zane: care to answer Mia's question about a future breeding program?